InfiniteBento
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If I saw that shit, I wouldve knocked it down.
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
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Home Depot builds wall at Latin music festival, it goes badly
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Scofield94941
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You all can have outrage over this, but most latinos voted for Trump. Most of them like Trump, dunno why people forgot
FinalStageBoss
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Fuck home Depot
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Fixed that right up.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/
What are you talking about?
Admiral Woofington
Member
Latinos are largely conservative in values, I guess if plenty voted for him it was because they put their religious conservative values over their self respect.
If you think that this was on purpose you are stupid
Ways I can see this being deliberate:
1. A racist, malicious third party was used with one company representative signing off on it.
2. It was a small project managed by a miniscule team of 1-3 people with zero oversight.
3. Home Depot secretly hates latinos and wants to tank their appeal utilizing their anti-marketing team. For reasons.
Captin Quacker
Member
Really? Over a year of Mexicans are rapist and we gotta build a wall to keep them out sentiment?
Insults cause you can't backup your point? That is how you get 8 years of trump
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Like the Pepsi commercial debacle, it's not that it was intentionally inflammatory, but it's more that had there been a single person of the offended party in the room at the time, it never would have been green-lit. It's myopic, and a reflection of poor intellectual diversity in both the parent company and whomever they hired to run the campaign.
InfiniteBento
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Regardless of that nonsense, that doesn't make doing this type of shit acceptable. I don't understand why you would think dumb people making dumb decisions means this kinda shit is justified at all.
Agreed, and well said
Napoleonthechimp
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Why has "optics" become so prevalent lately?
Why do you guys think that Home Depot would just go ahead and try to piss off a sizeable demographic just because of the current political climate? Makes no sense to want to lose money just like that.
Heads are gonna roll internally. Stop trying to assume everyone is a bad person when it always takes just a few of them to make everyone look bad.
Heads are gonna roll internally. Stop trying to assume everyone is a bad person when it always takes just a few of them to make everyone look bad.
The Albatross
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I think it's really stupid, but usually, when deciding between malice and incompetence, I lean towards incompetence first.
I think what's most likely is they wanted to show off whatever their new tile system is, and they wanted a big display to try to catch people's eyes... That they use the same display whether they're at the International Home Improvement Tradeshow or a Latin Music Festival, and they're too incompetant for someone to throw on the brakes and be like "y'know.... come to think of it... this might be taken the wrong way..."
Retail stores might do all sorts of things that alienate potential customers, but it's really rare that a retail store tries to intentionally alienate customers for seemingly no gain. As far as I know Latino Americans shop at home depot just about as much as any other ethnicity so it just seems unlikely that the corporate event planners at Home Depot would try to make a pro-wall political protest at a Latin music festival.
That said, I don't shop at home depot now, and still won't be.
I think what's most likely is they wanted to show off whatever their new tile system is, and they wanted a big display to try to catch people's eyes... That they use the same display whether they're at the International Home Improvement Tradeshow or a Latin Music Festival, and they're too incompetant for someone to throw on the brakes and be like "y'know.... come to think of it... this might be taken the wrong way..."
Retail stores might do all sorts of things that alienate potential customers, but it's really rare that a retail store tries to intentionally alienate customers for seemingly no gain. As far as I know Latino Americans shop at home depot just about as much as any other ethnicity so it just seems unlikely that the corporate event planners at Home Depot would try to make a pro-wall political protest at a Latin music festival.
That said, I don't shop at home depot now, and still won't be.
One of my friends in Atlanta tells me that he's seen displays like this one at other concerts and music festivals, and not just at ones sponsored by Home Depot.
So at least it's not like Home Depot invented a wall exhibit specifically for Latinos.
(They still should've rethought the idea for this festival, obviously)
So at least it's not like Home Depot invented a wall exhibit specifically for Latinos.
(They still should've rethought the idea for this festival, obviously)
Do you mean the term "optics" or the concept of how things will be perceived by various groups? If you mean the latter, that's been a part of marketing/PR for who knows how long, so it doesn't feel like a recent thing to me. If you mean people are using the word "optics" more recently, I'd guess it's because there's an increased focus on discussing identity politics, and optics are a big part of that.
How dumb do you have to be to do this. The idea that multiple people involved in this thought this was okay.
Not agreeing with the poster, but I can't trust any polls that involve Trump.
Fixed that right up.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tan...s-victory-divisions-by-race-gender-education/
What are you talking about?
Not agreeing with the poster, but I can't trust any polls that involve Trump.
It's not just Bernard Marcus, it's other hugely influential owners like Ken Langone too. Corporations want to be treated as a an extension of the people behind them when they need the legal rights afforded to those people so they should take the heat when those people are shitty too
TheHolyTurnip
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That's not a wall, that's a display for tile. Really people, this is being taken WAY out of context.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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This is the kind of thing those people are paid to think about
lightskintwin
Banned
And they get things wrong all the time. Look what happened a couple months ago with the Shea Moisture Ad.
oneils
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Fucking lmao. So true, a real failure. The work culture at Home Depot must be terrible for this to happen.
The Faceless Master
Member
i can just imagine who was [and wasn't] in the room when this decision was made
You acted like one needs to be psychic to see that a big wall display at a Latino festival from Home Depot of all places is a bad idea. It's not like it was a cornerstone of a presidential campaign and supported by the company's co-founder. You have no room to call anyone stupid.
People are always willing to give the benefit of the doubt. For reasons.
But seriously a wall? No one down the line said this might be a bad idea? I find that very hard to believe.
IsntChrisL
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It's tone-deaf, sure, but it's very unlikely that they did it as a "Fuck you" to Mexicans. I used to work at Home Depot. It was a shitty job and I don't miss it. But about half of the customers I helped were Mexican. You don't purposefully take a big shit on your bread and butter. Think harder.
I don't think everyone signed off on this. Someone did "think harder" but corporate wanted to go this direction.
So I'm not saying everyone at Home Depot are racist idiots. But obviously someone is. If this wasn't done with malice than it would have been pulled when someone pointed out the obvious.
hydragonwarrior
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Same for ppl who voted for Trump to begin with. I know a lot of ppl instantly jump to saying anyone who voted for Trump is racist or sexist or <insert something no one wants to be called here> but you can't expect everyone to be as knowledgeable about Trump's wrongdoings as we are on GAF which is still a very liberal bubble.
You'd be surprised how many people even shunned or ignored a lot of the bad shit Trump had done as typical smear campaign stuff (a lot of the stuff coming across as fake or exaggerated news) and focused just on the factoids like "he's a businessman" or the fact that he's not another career politician.
Hell, I've got a co-worker who just recently became an official citizen (of Canada, immigrated from Nigeria) who said he would've voted Trump because he was a business man and he couldn't be that crazy, and completely decided Hillary was bad due to the optics of her e-mails and her being a politician.
Massive Duck. C.M.
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Trump's wrongdoings have been national news since before Gaf existed
7DollarHagane
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This does seem like a real miss/mistake. Unless the thing was made and built specifically for this festival and wasnt meant to appear anywhere else this seems like a dumb oversight in trying to promote a profit that's meant to decorate interior walls. I've been seeing a lot of commercials for that product from home Depot on TV as well.
IsntChrisL
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I really doubt anyone thought it would stir up so much shit, even if someone did point it out. Corporations live in their own bubbles too. You know where else you might find a wall like this? Home Depot. This isn't some radical new way to market for them. It was just the wrong event in the wrong political climate.
crisdecuba
Member
Exactly this.
Right, so the argument is that they aren't racist or sexist but just bafflingly fucking stupid. Sounds good
TheCochese
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Again, if you look at my post earlier I have my doubts corporate was even involved.
old manatee
Banned
I've never seen a Home Depot rep stick his neck out like that.
crisdecuba
Member
Nah man. All it takes is seeing it as a "tile display" and not making the connection. The argument is that they were incompetent / stupid from a marketing / optics perspective (as opposed to "bafflingly fucking stupid").
You know I'm kind of starting to enjoy this Trump era! It's like posting in a legendary thread, or maybe being an extra i a crazy scene from arrested development, but real life.
I think someone knew what they were doing and it's possible it went down the chain of command unnoticed.
I think someone knew what they were doing and it's possible it went down the chain of command unnoticed.
TheHolyTurnip
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I see, great talk. I assume now Home Depot should take these kinds of displays out of their stores as well? How about the "walls" of Mountain Dew and Coke in grocery stores since now solid displays are walls to be torn down? Or maybe this wall should have been torn down at any of the other outdoor venues it was featured at?
It's tall because the name is at the top and it's an outdoor festival, they want you to see the Home Depot name over people's heads and from across the other side of the festival. It's wide because there's tons of tiles on the thing, it's made to be colorful and eye catching. Their former CEO had nothing to do with this display, and I would be beyond shocked if the current one even knows these displays are going around. It's an over reaction to something meaningless because of a situation that is very meaningful to the people at that festival and across the country, but it's energy devoted for the right cause at the wrong thing.
One Eyed Willy
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Seems like the intention was to allow people to decorate tiles and put them up there or something.
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