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House GOP Floats $1B Reduction In Disaster Relief To Put Down-payment On Trump's Wall

I'll never wrap my head around why anyone thinks the wall is a worthwhile investment. Like, I don't understand how to debate it because the premise is so fundamentally stupid.

Trump wants this as a vanity monument, and stupid ass voters and Republican elected officials are going along with it, mostly because they hate brown people.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Sounds like a plot to get trump some brownie points from moderates. The GOP makes this stupid legislation and he will step in and say no. Everyone will cheer for trump, and the GOP lawmakers probably will
not lose any support from their voters. Win win.


This has so many meanings in this thread.
 

bman94

Member
Fucking hell, only half of the DOWN PAYMENT? The fuck is this stupid ass wall supposed to be mafe of, GOLD???
 

Kenstar

Member
"You guys trumps gonna build the wall vote for him'
'the wall was just a metaphor Fake News is taking it out of context Pres. Trump's still gonna #maga tho'
'the metaphor is now real again stay winning trump'
 

lord pie

Member
The optics are politically bad and there’s only $2.3 billion remaining in disaster coffers.

This seems disturbingly low for a country the size of the US?

For comparison, New Zealand (4m people) had a $6B USD disaster fund, which was mostly wiped out by the 2012 earthquake.
 

YourMaster

Member
Fucking hell, only half of the DOWN PAYMENT? The fuck is this stupid ass wall supposed to be mafe of, GOLD???

The us is quite a big country, a wall from coast to coast is massive just in materials alone. What would probably be cheaper is to conquer Mexico until you get a bit east of Houston and build the wall there. Or while you're at it, continue south a bit more and name what you find there the 'Trump moat'.

What would you expect a 3,000,000 yard/meter wall to cost? In land, labor, materials and legal costs?
 

Madness

Member
Why wouldn't they instead take from the hilariously bloated and overpriced US defense spending. They increased it by billions. Can even promote the building of the wall as a matter of national defense. But no, instead they'll cuts arts and humanities programs, environmental and climate funding, disaster relief, even social programs to fund this wall than touch the $650 billion+ useless militsey budget funding decade long quagmires and cost overruns and delays
 

Complex Shadow

Cudi Lame™
lib tears

I know your joking buuuut
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cameron

Member
Bit more, AP: House GOP eyeing $1B disaster funds cut to finance wall
WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is promising billions to help Texas rebuild from Harvey-caused epic flooding, but his Republican allies in the House are looking at cutting almost $1 billion from disaster accounts to help finance the president’s border wall.

The pending reduction to the Federal Emergency Management Agency’s disaster relief account is part of a massive spending bill that the House is scheduled to consider next week when lawmakers return from their August recess. The $876 million cut, which is included in the 1,305-page measure’s homeland security section, pays for roughly half the cost of Trump’s down payment on the U.S.-Mexico border wall that the president repeatedly promised Mexico would finance.

It seems sure that GOP leaders will move to reverse it next week as floodwaters cover Houston, the nation’s fourth-largest city, and tens of thousands of Texans have sought refuge in shelters. There’s only $2.3 billion remaining in federal disaster coffers.

The disaster relief cut was proposed well before Harvey and the politically bad optics are sure to lead lawmakers to do an about face, though that would create a money crunch in homeland security accounts.
The FEMA cut is the handiwork of House Appropriations Committee Chairman Rodney Frelinghuysen, R-N.J. — the major force behind a $50 billion-plus 2013 Superstorm Sandy recovery package — and Rep. John Carter, whose home state of Texas is suffering badly from Harvey.

“Circumstances have changed significantly since the bill was drafted earlier this summer,” Appropriations Committee spokeswoman Jennifer Hing said Wednesday. “Given the current situation, the committee is reassessing the issue.”
The fact that this was even a proposal should anger voters. But it probably won't.
 
Fucking hell, only half of the DOWN PAYMENT? The fuck is this stupid ass wall supposed to be mafe of, GOLD???
It's probably a $100B project (that would take a decade) after all costs are considered, with corners cut everywhere and done with the cheapest everything. $1B isn't even enough money to create the infrastructure and services necessary the hundreds of miles from larger cities they'll be working from in order to house workers and supplies.
 
It's probably a $100B project (that would take a decade) after all costs are considered, with corners cut everywhere and done with the cheapest everything. $1B isn't even enough money to create the infrastructure and services necessary the hundreds of miles from larger cities they'll be working from in order to house workers and supplies.

Shit, the first billion is already earmarked for lawyers. The Eminent Domain cases alone would slow down the process and cost millions from day 1.

I despise Trump voters for forcing us to even discuss this fucking boondoggle.
 
Serious question, what do they gain from this? What is it? Republicans will do shit the entire country hates but no one votes them out. Why?
 

whytemyke

Honorary Canadian.
Remember folks: until the Dems can retake one (or both) chambers of Congress, we'll be at the mercy of cretins in the GOP.



But not to fear, GOP "Leadership" is ready to put the kibosh on this stupidity. Not because it's bad policy, but because its untenable from an optics standpoint.


APNews

[Bleed the coffers dry, if old]
If anything it almost seems like taking a shot at Trump to back off. Put him on a side of the issue where if he wants to piss and moan on Twitter every time a Republican doesn't kiss the ring, he has to say he's taking money from needy families.

I'm just not at all convinced the GOP is sharp enough to concoct that plan.
 
Serious question, what do they gain from this? What is it? Republicans will do shit the entire country hates but no one votes them out. Why?
If they're never held accountable for the craziest shit they try to do why would they stop trying it? This concept always existed but it's been on afterburner since 2010. The Senate is a far more civilized body than the House and you'd never see something this ridiculous being passed there. The GOP House is essentially the JV team of legislative bodies in terms of mentality, but unfortunately they have half the total power and 100% of the money.
 
Serious question, what do they gain from this? What is it? Republicans will do shit the entire country hates but no one votes them out. Why?

Because the House is both polarized and highly gerrymandered. You've got guys who were rural livestock vets and backwoods lawyers, being told by their heavily curated voter base "starve the beast", dismantle public investment and safety nets. Let the "Free Market" dictate where resources are used.

At least until their voters' houses float away and they need Federal assistance.

GOP voters are also in a cult built around trying to exact vengeance on anyone not in the cult, to deflect from their own failures. Assholes, basically.
 

Strike

Member
Shit, for a second I thought this was an old thread being bumped. They actually have the gall to try and do that shit now? You got to give it to them. They do not give a fuck about optics.
 

DR2K

Banned
Amazing, I just want to see the looks on their ugly mother fucking inbred faces if they actually try that. The 4th largest city in the United States in a red state essentially gets destroyed while the same hurricane is ravishing other cities at present moment and they want to cut the budget? That's more important than almost anything on their budget.
 
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