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How are you dealing with people who voted for Trump?
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If you want to see the real "regressive left", look at the election results for marijuana legalization.
We elected a buffoon who supports institutional racism, police militarization, tax breaks for the rich, privatized health care, gutting environmental regulations, mass deporting immigrants, destroying our international relations, and committing war crimes... But we got weed!
I live in the UK so don't have that problem. But I am also black,bi and a guy that suffers from mental health issues. All things that Trump and the GOP had no problem with hating. I could not talk to a person that has at the least enabled the disgusting views that have spewed out of Trumps mouth. Even worse if they actually agree with all those views.
Honestly, answers here really saddens me, is one thing to not agree with people with oposing views, is normal.
Another thing is to just completely ignore them and get an attitude of "life sucks, I will just ignore everything" that's why democracy fails, people don't discuse and include politics on real life. When they can't discuse with something that they don't like to the point of going full social media and just ignore them in real life like if eveybody has a block button on it.
I feel that people who don't discuss politics on their normal life are way worse than those who decide to not vote one day, but lots of guys here just think that posting attacks and sharing articles on internet is doing a wonderful job on building something. In this election, some hillary supporters were so naive and inside their bubble that somehow missed completely the point of convincing people in the fence about voting for their candidate and not the bigoted mysoginist, racist, rich and idiot guy.
Grew up and change things, don't be so fucking millenial on everything
Another thing is to just completely ignore them and get an attitude of "life sucks, I will just ignore everything" that's why democracy fails, people don't discuse and include politics on real life. When they can't discuse with something that they don't like to the point of going full social media and just ignore them in real life like if eveybody has a block button on it.
I feel that people who don't discuss politics on their normal life are way worse than those who decide to not vote one day, but lots of guys here just think that posting attacks and sharing articles on internet is doing a wonderful job on building something. In this election, some hillary supporters were so naive and inside their bubble that somehow missed completely the point of convincing people in the fence about voting for their candidate and not the bigoted mysoginist, racist, rich and idiot guy.
Grew up and change things, don't be so fucking millenial on everything
Glass Shark
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We spent the last YEAR "discussing politics" only to find that most people aren't actually interested in doing that and will just vote for whatever turd their party puts forward.
Irobot82
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Legalizing weed is a great step towards reducing racism in our country.
No, you are just clueless.
What we have in this thread are people of color and gay people and Muslims and trans people and people with disabilities and women who have been disenfranchised and marginalized their entire lives, who have been reminded constantly that they are "The Other," that they don't belong, that they are, at best, less than and, at worst, worthless.
And Donald Trump comes along and runs a campaign specifically pointing at these "Others" and saying they are what's wrong with this country, saying these "Others" need to be controlled, locked up, locked out, deported, even killed.
And his constituents ate it up.
That is what has happened. And this thread is the result of that. And the marginalized people in this thread are tired of white men's always telling them what's best for them while also not actually giving a shit about them.
Ding ding.
Our new President campaigned on stop-and-frisk and voter ID laws.
Frozenprince
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I mean I believe sixty million people are racist.
Sixty million isn't that much.
I believe like over one hundred million Americans are racist, tbh. If not more.
Sixty million isn't that much.
I believe like over one hundred million Americans are racist, tbh. If not more.
Let me stop you right there.
A white guy a page ago told me there is no way there are that many racist people in this country because he has never seen it and has not been a victim himself.
Clearly he knows what's up.
Irobot82
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Screw the president. Don't need him to help
EmpressInYellow
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I'd like to amend my earlier reply, upon further thought.
I will not lift a finger to help them, but I will enjoy seeing the communities that voted for Trump get screwed over by his policies and false promises. I will feel sorrow for the people who tried to stop it, but for the ones that voted for all of this? Reap what you sow. Lost your health care because you voted for Trump? My heart bleeds. Maybe you should've thought of that before. Community driven even further into poverty by government neglect? So sad. Reap what you sow.
I will not lift a finger to help them, but I will enjoy seeing the communities that voted for Trump get screwed over by his policies and false promises. I will feel sorrow for the people who tried to stop it, but for the ones that voted for all of this? Reap what you sow. Lost your health care because you voted for Trump? My heart bleeds. Maybe you should've thought of that before. Community driven even further into poverty by government neglect? So sad. Reap what you sow.
Frozenprince
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You kinda do since it's still federally illegal.
Look at how medical is handled and cracked down on.
Irobot82
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I was talking about racism.
But for weed one would hope with his "business experience" he could see the benefit of reduced tax spending on prisons along with job growth and tax revenues. Maybe.
Haloid1177
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It's edgy to fault the party who bastardized a primary, did not listen to what people wanted, continued the same campaign into the general, and polled worse in every possible way than Obama did while Trump overperformed in his demos? You take the 7% difference in voter turnout from Clinton to Obama and put it back in and she'd win. But they didn't for whatever reason. So call it edgy or whatever but I'm not gonna blame a strong Republican base when the weak Democratic base, establishment, and hell even candidate came crashing down.
Yes I greatly dislike the fact that many of Trump's voters are likely racist, xenophobic, and bigoted, but they came out to vote at least.
Glass Shark
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Hillary Clinton won the popular vote in America, but please go on, tell me how the people didn't want her to be President.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
Honestly, as minorities we should just tolerate the intolerance and protest a bit more quietly, we wouldn't wanna get in the way of their vidya games. /s
Everyone at work I've talked to who admitted voting for him can't explain any of his policies and just tell me they want change. That's it, change. No idea, how he's gonna get them there, or what that exactly entails concerning certain policies. Change. They just think he'll get them to this heavenly Eden of change somehow. No worry or reason for if or how it affects them personally.
I just say in my nicest voice possible (now. Earlier I was on fire) literally "That's fucking insane. And stupid." And I smile.
They shut down. 5 people so far, have done or said exactly this.
I just say in my nicest voice possible (now. Earlier I was on fire) literally "That's fucking insane. And stupid." And I smile.
They shut down. 5 people so far, have done or said exactly this.
pretty done
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Probably over 300 million Americans are racist, let's be real.
Lys Skygge
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My mom is trying to argue with me because of a Facebook post.
protomouse
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According to figures from the other thread:
46.9% didn't vote
25.6% voted for Clinton
25.5% voted for Trump
That 0.1% is about 230k people.
If these numbers are to be believed, over 100 million eligible voters didn't vote. Almost the majority. That's really the only take-away from these numbers.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Let's get this straight. They're all racists. They're all misogynists. They're all homophobes. They're all Islamophobes. Every single one of them.
How can I say that? Because they voted for Trump.
Sure, not every one of them might think of themselves that way. They might not go around using the n word. I'm sure some of them have "black friends". Maybe they really think that they respect women.
But they were all willing to vote for Trump. They voted for a man who launched his campaign by saying that all Mexicans were rapists and drug dealers. A man who has been recorded bragging about grabbing women by the pussy. Who has demeaned women repeatedly throughout his public life. Who called for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Who wants to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.
If you vote for him, you're a bigot. You believe all of those things. Or worse, you're willing to accept them just on the fear that Hillary would have taken your guns or whatever.
I don't want to hear about how we should be more accepting of Trump supporters. Or how calling them out just makes them double down. We've tried for 50 fucking years to coddle racists; to avoid calling them racists or bigots because we can't hurt their precious feelings. Guess what? It hasn't fucking worked. It's just lead to those racists views becoming more and more entrenched. We need to take a strong hand to all bigoted views. We need to call shit out.
When people say that everyone should be more open to Trump supporters, that sets off red flags with me. I mean hell, I'm a straight white man, and I'm terrified. I can only imagine how much worse everyone who is black, or hispanic, or gay, or Muslim, or a woman of color, or multiple of the above is feeling right now. And if you can't feel compassion for what all of those people are going through as they've seen nearly half their country willing to throw them to the wind, then maybe you're part of the problem.
How can I say that? Because they voted for Trump.
Sure, not every one of them might think of themselves that way. They might not go around using the n word. I'm sure some of them have "black friends". Maybe they really think that they respect women.
But they were all willing to vote for Trump. They voted for a man who launched his campaign by saying that all Mexicans were rapists and drug dealers. A man who has been recorded bragging about grabbing women by the pussy. Who has demeaned women repeatedly throughout his public life. Who called for the execution of five innocent black teenagers. Who wants to ban all Muslim people from entering the country.
If you vote for him, you're a bigot. You believe all of those things. Or worse, you're willing to accept them just on the fear that Hillary would have taken your guns or whatever.
I don't want to hear about how we should be more accepting of Trump supporters. Or how calling them out just makes them double down. We've tried for 50 fucking years to coddle racists; to avoid calling them racists or bigots because we can't hurt their precious feelings. Guess what? It hasn't fucking worked. It's just lead to those racists views becoming more and more entrenched. We need to take a strong hand to all bigoted views. We need to call shit out.
When people say that everyone should be more open to Trump supporters, that sets off red flags with me. I mean hell, I'm a straight white man, and I'm terrified. I can only imagine how much worse everyone who is black, or hispanic, or gay, or Muslim, or a woman of color, or multiple of the above is feeling right now. And if you can't feel compassion for what all of those people are going through as they've seen nearly half their country willing to throw them to the wind, then maybe you're part of the problem.
Glass Shark
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🙌🏼
MidgarBlowedUp
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NC here, the shitty part, I'm thinking about how I can capitalize on their stupidity just like the Republicans do. Thought about making some religious or Republican themed apps and stuff to sell. I was even thinking about making a 3d printed cross with a trump being crucified on it or some other dumb ignorant shit I know these people will buy. Set up a stand at the local flea market and just say things like God bless or make Jesus great again to draw attention.
Zeus Molecules
illegal immigrants are stealing our air
I need some time. I should congratulate them, but I am too angry to say that right now.
MidgarBlowedUp
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Truth.
WoolyNinja
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This is the only answer
Fox Mulder
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Im not even religious and want to pray that someday they feel the anxiety and hopelessness my brother does right now being a gay man that relies on Obamacare due to his health issues.
EmpressInYellow
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Unless you're one of those minorities imperiled by a Trump presidency. But hey, what do they matter, right? What's important is that we're CIVIL about the whole thing.
I see your elephant icon is also a representation of your political leaning.
Well said.
I finally was able to get my family to start to cut ties with some of the racist in laws that haven't voted in decades but were part of that silent majority that turned out for Trump.
Done with them. They supported us through tough times and helped us pay the rent when things looked grim.
Doesn't matter. They had a car accident recently and we won't be returning that support one bit. Had the gall to call us this morning like, "Everything will be ok, he won't really do that much!"
Die. Off.
Done with them. They supported us through tough times and helped us pay the rent when things looked grim.
Doesn't matter. They had a car accident recently and we won't be returning that support one bit. Had the gall to call us this morning like, "Everything will be ok, he won't really do that much!"
Die. Off.
All of this. Tolerating these people is why liberals lose and have everything taken from them. It's time to wake the fuck up.
I've never been one for politics, but I must admit it's very difficult for me to come to the terms with that fact that there are those close to me that cast their vote for Trump. Tough to process. There are many reasons for this, but as a minority and the son of immigrants it's tough for me to not feel like a vote cast for Trump isn't in a way a personal attack, if that makes sense. Maybe not super logical, but running on emotions at the moment. I only hope the damage done isn't too severe, but I feel like we're going to be moving back in time. We can at least do our best on a personal level to be open-minded and positive individuals, and maybe enact some change on a smaller scale, within those we interact with at least.
CharminUltra
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I don't have a FB, and most people at work are pretty liberal. So it's not been too bad.
l2ounD
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wtf... come on guy. That sounds so bad.
SolarMystic
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Honestly don't know what to do Gaf.
My immediate family all voted for Trump. Heated exchanges were made and words were said. Long story short, I broke off ties to my family.
Idk what to do...
My immediate family all voted for Trump. Heated exchanges were made and words were said. Long story short, I broke off ties to my family.
Idk what to do...
djplaeskool
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Basically this.
Today was really just another day at the office. Barely any talk about it.
One discussion about CA getting recreational weed though.
How About No
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Besides my family I don't want to talk to ANYONE from my hometown ever again
I would never lose family to politics. Ever. That's just me though.
No, you shouldn't congratulate them on supporting a platform with so many backwards values.
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