How Do You Feel About Fat People?

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I'm pretty sympathetic, having been fat when I was young.

I sometimes judge when they are those incredibly slow-moving, ridiculously over-eating types... but that's not for how they look, but for how they act. For a lot of metabolisms its extremely hard to be fit... but those types aren't even trying.

(still... I understand how it can be a downward spiral and when you give up... you learn to indulge)
 
It's not my place to judge since I'm underweight. And really, even if that wasn't the case, judging people based on looks is a jerk thing to do, screw that.

You know what's a bit sucky? I have a friend who is clearly not okay with his weight. He tried dieting and working out and he was getting results! But then suddenly his sister (who pretty much motivated him to go working out) got injured and couldn't be his exercising partner anymore... suddenly he went back to his old habits and gained the weight back. I really wish I could do something about it, his father had emergency surgery because of heart failure a couple of years back and I hope that never happens to him. Bleh.
 
I REALLY hate it when fat people ride scooters in stores, but that's because my wife is actually physically disabled.

Notice I said I hate it when, not that I hate fat people.
 
It's whatever if they don't eat shit food. If you get fat off good food it's cool. Otherwise you're wasting your health on garbage. Yeah, opinions and all, but come on Burger King is not the right way to get fat.

And honestly I find many obese girls repulsive. Men, no problems. But obese women just make me very grossed out. They don't carry the weight as well IMO.

None of this would ever determine how I like someone past initial thoughts.
 
JDSN said:
How does a fat person acts "fat" exactly?
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I just said it. Thinking everyone hates them and becoming cranky/defensive/sad because of it. Everyone should act as if they don't give a fuck what people think of them, fat or not.
 
Their impact of the obese on overall health and medical resources are bad.

Otherwise, I know fat folk of many stripes. Some are that way due to genetics, some to upbringing, and some to just bad habits that they can't shake. Some have gone on to become thin, some used to be thin.

So, you know, being fat really doesn't much of anything to me.

Writer of article though, dude's sour. I don't doubt that his points are at least somewhat legit, but it's a bit lost in between the emotions. Can't blame him too much though, hard to know what it's like to walk in another's shoes.
 
indifferent is a strong word, but it doesn't affect me so....

I very very very much would not like to be one.
 
I think hatred of anyone is wrong, as is discrimination. However, I feel the conversation in America has taken a turn in the wrong direction. There is too much concern given to the feelings of obese individuals, as opposed to remedial action and plans to shrink the size of our ever expanding population. I understand that some people got dealt a shit hand with genetics, and will always struggle with weight. Nonetheless, more and more people are becoming obese each year, and the preponderance of fast food, as well as poor education are leading culprits. Efforts like those by Mayor Bloomberg, to at least make some kind of dent in the shitty products being fed to consumers (and children!) are a step in the right direction. A nationwide sugar tax would likely do wonders as well. I'm not a fatty hater, just pissed at the system that got them there.
 
Fat people are fat people. There are caring, cool and smart fat people and there are dumb asshole ones. Still though, just the same as i (and id say many people) look at a person in good shape and think "that person takes good care of himself/herself", i look at an overweight person and think, "this person should be more concerned about his/her health." And if they are young and overweight i think about what kind of awful dietary discipline their parents are teaching them. The body is a temple, in my opinion, regardless of weather beauty is on the inside or not. You really are what you eat.
 
Nekofrog said:
I REALLY hate it when fat people ride scooters in stores, but that's because my wife is actually physically disabled.

Notice I said I hate it when, not that I hate fat people.
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True story, this really obese woman and her husband started yelling and berating my sister in law for using a scooter. I guess the lady really wanted to sit down. They were cursing her and call her lazy. Lady said you look perfectly young and healthy, called her a bitch, etc.

My sister has MS and can't even walk a little bit anymore.....
 
Generally speaking, it's not healthy to be overweight. That said, my attitude is nothing but sympathy. Most people who are overweight know that it's bad for you and would love nothing more than to get in better shape, but for whatever reason they aren't able to. The proper response is to offer reasonable, small-steps advice in contexts where it's appropriate.

The way some people get vitriolic, combative, and self-righteous about body weight sounds to me like telling a depressed person that they're pathetic, mopey, and bringing everyone else down and should just decide to be happy. The message of "You're bad and I hate you, be different. Just do it." is just terrible. You're not using "tough love" or being "brutally honest," you're just making the situation worse by stomping on peoples' already low self esteem.
 
According to a recent NPR broadcast about 20% of fat people can't control it, genes/whatever. The other 80% are lazy and eat like shit.

Personally, I don't care that much, but I've never dated a fat girl. It's not a good look.
 
I was overweight once, but even still, I don't really care. I only care when they ask me for nutrition and gym tips, then don't follow them and comeback to ask me the same questions again. Some people have conditions so it's not really their fault(whatever those condition are). I didn't have a condition, I just got lazy and ate like shit. I didn't have pity on myself and I have none for those who are overweight due to those reasons.

Most people can do something about it and just don't it seems. Yeah, that's general, but I haven't ran across too many people that fit into the "I have a condition" category.

*shrugs*

Artemisia said:
this thread will be excellent
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Not with posts like this lol
 
FlyFaster said:
According to a recent NPR broadcast about 20% of fat people can't control it, genes/whatever. The other 80% are lazy and eat like shit.

Personally, I don't care that much, but I've never dated a fat girl. It's not a good look.
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Something tells me there is a massive grey area there................
 
I straight up don't believe 20% cant help it, but it's a tough issue, when you see a ridiculously fat kid with a FATASS mum, i just feel sad.

Child services should be involved in that shit if the kid has a clean bill of health.
 
I feel sorry for the morbidly obese. Mostly because of the wide array of health problems that they suffer and will suffer in the future.
 
Devil Theory said:
Spitefully fat?
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Well, not even spiteful, because some people are gonna be fat and some are gonna be thin and neither is a crime. More like "I'm gonna be the person who has a great time rather than the one mewling and hissing in the corner." Let it all hang out and have a good time, don't worry about what people might think of you.
 
I feel pity. I feel like I am worse at EVERYTHING even when I am slightly out of shape. I am a better student, person, and employee when I am in great shape. I recently had an injury And had to have surgery to reattach a tendon in my foot and havent been able to excersize besides pushups for 2 months now. I have gained around 10 lbs and can't wait to start running and working out again, I can only imagine the depression and insecurity one goes through being overweight. It's a positive feedback loop into depression and inactivity.
 
Aside from those with genuine health problems leading to uncontrollable weight issues, they're no different than anybody else who obsess over something unhealthy, or takes otherwise benign activities to excess, be it gaming, smoking, gambling, booze, drugs, sex or even TV. The biggest difference is how the signs/side effects/ symptoms of their bad habits manifest themselves -- ie, it makes them fat for the world to see and gawk at. When it comes to alcoholics, drug users, gamblers etc: symptoms & side effects of their problems all manifest themselves differently, and not all of these side effects are quite so obvious to so many.

It's more difficult to hide mild to moderate eating disorders than pretty much any other unhealthy endeavor. Who's to say that 9 out of 10 people judging fat people aren't doing something unhealthy to equal or greater excess (whether physically, mentally or emotionally)? Even if they were, it's possible they just don't catch shit for their problems because they're easier to hide.
 
An obese woman once sat beside me on a crowded bus. I could feel the heat radiating from her fat body onto me.

I don't really have an opinion on fat people. Just plenty of anecdotes.
 
FlyFaster said:
According to a recent NPR broadcast about 20% of fat people can't control it, genes/whatever.
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There's no way it's close to that high. Real-world obesity numbers have been WAY below that, even in Murica. Fat people practically didn't exist during the rationing of WWII.
 
Does anyone actually want to be fat? The life of a fat person is being ugly to 99% of the world and your mobility is stunted.

That said, I don't criticize every fat person I meet. But I do feel slightly disgusted by it.
 
I only think of people who weigh more than me as a collective group when I'm shopping for clothes and I see something I like and think to myself: "I hope everyone who saw this was heavier than me so there will be still my size in stock!" Same goes for people who weigh less. Otherwise, I don't care.
 
Speaking candidly, I don't have a any sympathy for most of them. Short of a disability or a medical condition, you can do something about it. It's just a matter of wanting to.

Ex: A buddy of mine is pursuing a career in entertainment. We're all behind him because he's really talented, but the elephant in the room is his weight because that's really the only thing holding him back. This semester I gave him a standing offer, anytime he wanted to go to the gym, I'd go workout with him. Even if I already did that day. You like basketball? Lets go run full court pickup. Shit, if nothing else, lets go run at the gym (and I hate running) and watch the girls. I figured that would motivate him more than anything. Never hit me up. Some people just don't want it that bad. Dude just sits on his ass all day.
 
GusBus said:
I think hatred of anyone is wrong, as is discrimination. However, I feel the conversation in America has taken a turn in the wrong direction. There is too much concern given to the feelings of obese individuals, as opposed to remedial action and plans to shrink the size of our ever expanding population. I understand that some people got dealt a shit hand with genetics, and will always struggle with weight. Nonetheless, more and more people are becoming obese each year, and the preponderance of fast food, as well as poor education are leading culprits. Efforts like those by Mayor Bloomberg, to at least make some kind of dent in the shitty products being fed to consumers (and children!) are a step in the right direction. A nationwide sugar tax would likely do wonders as well. I'm not a fatty hater, just pissed at the system that got them there.
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Yeah I think you make a good point.

Being a big guy? Being chubby? It's a normal part of the range of humanity. Not everyone can be perfectly fit (not easily, anyway).

But the fact that when I, as a Canadian, go down to America and am utterly shocked by the rate and scale (literally) of obesity, that says something. Canada isn't exactly a particularly fit nation, and we're on the same corporate twinkie and hamburger teat as anyone... but yet America is above and beyond: and that means there's is something different about cultural attitudes that is permitting, enabling, and promoting some new heights of obesity. It's a cultural thing, beyond metabolism, beyond even capitalist food production gone awry. (and I should note that the "cure" to this social epidemic would be beneficial in other nations too.)
 
FlyFaster said:
According to a recent NPR broadcast about 20% of fat people can't control it, genes/whatever. The other 80% are lazy and eat like shit.
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I can believe that 20% might have a bit of a gut without a hardcore fitness regimen.... but not obesity.

The fact that this level of obesity basically didn't exist 50+ years ago should indicate that.
 
I can sympathize as someone who was once close to 300 lbs. and is fighting the struggle to get the last bit of belly fat off.
 
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