To use with MAME. I know there's the X-Arcade, but I don't want to break the bank. =)
I heard SEGA made really good sticks for Saturn.
Sega Arcade Stick
I heard SEGA made really good sticks for Saturn.
Sega Arcade Stick
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How is this for an arcade stick?
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Here's a good thread to ask my question? What's a good arcade stick just right out the gates, no mods needed for the Xbox? I returned my SF Anniversary Collection stick cause I just didn't like the feeling to it. I can play fine with the pad but I'm having a hard as hell time getting EX moves out on 3rd Strike (and some characters like Yang, without EX moves, are useless).
And a question for ASM when he gets here (cause ya know he will), what's up with that stick you were working on I remember being mentioned a few months ago?
And a question for ASM when he gets here (cause ya know he will), what's up with that stick you were working on I remember being mentioned a few months ago?
There really aren't any good sticks for the Xbox, if the SFAC stick isn't cutting it. Your best bet is probably a Real Arcade Pro with a GameElements convertor because they don't cause lag, IIRC. But, I think the RAP always causes lag on Live, or no convertors work with SFAC without lag. I don't really recall all the specifics.
MomoPufflet
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Just wondering-- what makes X-arcade so bad?
The buttons are of awful quality, they move around within their casing and don't register 100% of the time. The stick is a really low-quality 8 way that moves around too much, offers no resistance, and can't find paths well. The Xbox convertor has too much input lag to be used on live, and the PS2 convertor is actually a PS1 convertor, so it doesn't work with all games (may have changed this since I bought mine). The PC support is done through keyboard and is terribly spotty. Basically, everything about the stick. Exchanging buttons or the stick is incredibly difficult, as the buttons are sealed instead of screwed in, so to exchange any parts, they must be phsyically destroyed. Unless you are a light user and only want to play 80's arcade games, the stick's worthless. Then again, I don't see why a light user would drop $100+ on a controller. For fighting games, it's absolutely useless.
ArcadeStickMonk
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Vieo, that Sega thing is garbage as a fighting stick. Buy it as a collectable only.
I got sidetracked for a week just by photographing Genesis pads alone.
Hori has been throwing some curveballs at this theory lately, but you have to import them.
I was definitely dissapointed with the X's console performance, but it's PC performance has been superb for me, not at all "spotty." I have two units, and the only reason that my single has Happ parts in it was because I was bored and had parts and a minute-fiddy to spare. It didn't need the Happ for what I was using it for (perfecting Metal Slug 3). Though the convex buttons were a good uprade.
Wrong. Its primary purpose is a PC device. Keep it on the PC and it does it's job very well.amodf said:
Refresh me; I've left a sea of half-completed projects strewn in my wake.LakeEarth said:
I got sidetracked for a week just by photographing Genesis pads alone.
Strictly speaking of off-the-shelf units, this is true... about every goddamn platform.amodf said:
Hori has been throwing some curveballs at this theory lately, but you have to import them.
Don't curse. Jesus would only use 1st party PCBs and so should you.
It's like you invited me in and then farted in my face.LakeEarth said:
Whoa! X-Gaming must have changed their manufacture if even half of this is true. You obviously have one around; take some pics and show me these sealed buttons.amodf said:
I was definitely dissapointed with the X's console performance, but it's PC performance has been superb for me, not at all "spotty." I have two units, and the only reason that my single has Happ parts in it was because I was bored and had parts and a minute-fiddy to spare. It didn't need the Happ for what I was using it for (perfecting Metal Slug 3). Though the convex buttons were a good uprade.
Oh, in some thread people mentioned something about "why don't you sell your modded SF:AC stick to us lazy fuckers" and you said something along the lines of "those sticks are hard to come by, plus my current project is way better", or something similar.
And sorry about the pad comment, I know sticks are better (hell I'm getting so pissed at losing matches in 3rd strike with Makoto because the normal hayate came out instead of the EX one), I'm just fed up and don't want to bother with the hassle.
And sorry about the pad comment, I know sticks are better (hell I'm getting so pissed at losing matches in 3rd strike with Makoto because the normal hayate came out instead of the EX one), I'm just fed up and don't want to bother with the hassle.
Teknopathetic
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Well, LakeEarth, you could always get someone to make you a custom stick for your xbox, those are like ~100+ bucks, though.
But that would involve not being lazy, which I am just not ready to do.
You know what, after this thread I'm gonna shut up about arcade sticks. Seems like I've done a half dozen of these threads when I come in, say something about wanting an arcade stick, and then I do nothing about it. I'm just wasting time.
You know what, after this thread I'm gonna shut up about arcade sticks. Seems like I've done a half dozen of these threads when I come in, say something about wanting an arcade stick, and then I do nothing about it. I'm just wasting time.
ArcadeStickMonk
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I never said SF:AC's are rare, because I see them all over.LakeEarth said:
I was probably refering to this old news, which is just about the best stick I've ever used.
What I am (s l o w l y) working on is a Tekken PSX unit and then we'll move on to the six-button "ASM Stick" that I want to wear on my back at PAX.
Geez, I should be out there right now...
amodf said:
issat so
In mine all the everything is a) screwed in using standard (happ clone) parts, and b) connected via quick-disconnects. I didn't have any problems removing them and replacing with some Competition parts; no soldering, no 'destroying' anything. The keyboard support is fantastic, since it outputs as real keystrokes and not joystick buttons some of the more obscure emulators and games don't require me to hunt down joystick plugins or patches. As an aside, I haven't yet encountered a PS2 game I couldn't play with the stick, but I'm not about to prove a negative.
I found two Arcade Sticks at www.play-asia.com. They are made for PC/MAC and use USB. Not to mention they seem to be priced reasonably. I wonder how good they are though.
Sega Saturn Virtua Stick
Saulabi SCS-2000 USB Arcade Joystick
And look at this thing. It's also made for PC and connects through USB.
Sexiest PC gamepad EVAR! It's even sold out. =P
Sega Saturn Virtua Stick
Saulabi SCS-2000 USB Arcade Joystick
And look at this thing. It's also made for PC and connects through USB.
Sexiest PC gamepad EVAR! It's even sold out. =P
ArcadeStickMonk
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Both of those are going to use arcade styled parts, which is to say they will use microswitches and momentary contact buttons rather than the gamepad type stuff found in really cheap crap.
Both should fair better than that old Saturn unit, and I'd go with the Virtua stick if I had to pick between the two. You can mod that one with Sanwa or Seimetsu parts later if you desire.
That second is a design that I keep seeing recently, like they are trying to shoehorn it into every possible application. A wireless PS2\Xbox version can likely be found at a nearby Gamestop, put out by Naki. I'd skip it.
Both should fair better than that old Saturn unit, and I'd go with the Virtua stick if I had to pick between the two. You can mod that one with Sanwa or Seimetsu parts later if you desire.
That second is a design that I keep seeing recently, like they are trying to shoehorn it into every possible application. A wireless PS2\Xbox version can likely be found at a nearby Gamestop, put out by Naki. I'd skip it.
If that's the case, then they must have changed what parts they were using. Whatever buttons were in there previously were certainly not Happ buttons.
And if I had pics, I would share! But I think I threw all the destroyed casings in the garbage.
After modifying it, I'm perfectly happy with it. But for the money I could have built my own.
And if I had pics, I would share! But I think I threw all the destroyed casings in the garbage.
After modifying it, I'm perfectly happy with it. But for the money I could have built my own.
ArcadeStickMonk
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'Course not. They were Bao Lian, same brand as in the SF:AC stick. The X uses the same joystick but different buttons as the SF:ACamodf said:
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