How long will it take Namco to put Tekken on the PSP?
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krypt0nian
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E3 announcement "Tekken Generations" for the PSP
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Blackace
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xabre said:
The PS2 version already took that slight hit when they brought it from the Arcade. The PSP looks great, but it is not a PS2. (I can't believe I am hyping the power of the PS2) could they bring a T5 like game to the PSP yeah they could, would it play like T5 from the arcade... most likely not
Blackace said:
I know that, but it isn't that far off a PS2 and I don't see how a slight degredation of character and stage models, textures and effects will have a detrimental effect on the core gameplay. You could have Tekken 5 on a PS1 with the same basic gameplay, it'd look like shit but again that has nothing to do with it.
Gaia Theory
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We'll be seeing Tekken on the DS before it arrives on PSP, if the PSP even sees it.
Shogmaster
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Seeing as how the Tekken 5 gameplay can all likelyhood be replicated perfectly on PSOne with enough reduction in graphics (imagine simpler than VF1 graphics), I don't see why a PSP port is so hard for some of you to imagine.
Gaia Theory
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ManaByte said:
:lol Sound logic. Just because something has been historically exclusive in the past, that doesn't mean that it will serve as any indication for the future.
Xenosaga was historically exclusive to the Sony and the PS2, but was announced for the DS. Why?
Namco and Nintendo are cozy. Very cozy. Mario Kart GP, Mario Baseball, Donkey Konga 1-3, Starfox Assault, Baten Kaitos, Tales of Symphonia, Soul Calibur DS, Xenosaga DS, Baten Kaitos DS.
That's, uh, why I believe we'll see it on the DS.
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ManaByte said:
Travesty? I recall the game being highly recieved and shattering many people's expectations.
Gaia Theory said:
Now that Sony has a handheld system, you will not see a Tekken game on a non-Sony system again. The Tekken Adavance thing (that some people call a "game" for some reason) was a horrible fluke that people want to forget faster than Death by Degrees.
There are two Namco franchises that will always be exclusive to Sony hardware: Ridge Racer (as a traditional launch title) and Tekken (as the flagship fighter on the hardware). And yes, you'll bring up RR64/DS but those were bastard children of the franchise developed by NST with a license by Namco. They are considered inpure.
RE4 vs. SH4 said:
Ugh. The only thing worse than Tekken Advance was Mortal Kombat Advance. At least you could sort of play Tekken Advance.
Gaia Theory
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Your humor is appreciated and isn't lost on me, but I have to disagree with your use of certain terminology.
Such as 'always be exclusive to Sony hardware.' That comment makes no sense. Sony doesn't own these franchises. Namco is free to put them on any hardware they choose. I wouldn't be so sure about the exclusivity of these titles if I were you.
Such as 'always be exclusive to Sony hardware.' That comment makes no sense. Sony doesn't own these franchises. Namco is free to put them on any hardware they choose. I wouldn't be so sure about the exclusivity of these titles if I were you.
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ManaByte said:
Tekken Advance
Gamespot: 80%
IGN: 85%
Gamespy: 88%
Game Zone: 95%
Not that I've ever played the game, but this shows that it wasn't a horrible fluke that people want to forget. I trust Gamespot scores, anyway.
Shogmaster
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Blackace said:
I can go along with that line of thinking, but I'm just pointing out to those that thinks T5 port to PSP is akin to impossible that such thinking is illogical.
Gaia Theory said:
Tekken 5 was on System 256, which is (basically) PS2 arcade hardware.
Ever since Tekken 1 (and Ridge Racer, and Ace Combat, etc.), Namco's arcade hardware and Sony's home hardware has been extremely similar. That's why you always will see home versions of Tekken on Sony hardware.
Blackace
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Shogmaster said:
That is all I have been trying to say in here, I don't see Namco doing it unless they can make it look like the PS2 version, which it can't. But I would like to see them make an offshoot perhaps with a crapload of characters that are related to the main characters... if they can gain a following a few of them can show up in T6
Blackace said:
Yes, but SC was never exclusive to Sony thanks to the Dreamcast. Soul Blade was (because it ran on the same hardware as Tekken, etc.). SC ran on the slightly more powerful hardware than T3 ran on. Since the PS2 wasn't going to be out, Namco needed some cash and ported the game to the DC and killed any chance of the franchise being exclusive to Sony.
If they wanted to do the same thing with Tekken, Tekken 4 and 5 would've been multiplatform. They weren't.
Hell, Sony used Tekken tech demos to show off the PS2 and I wouldn't be surprised if Namco did another for the PS3. Tekken is generally seen as the PlayStation's fighting series.
Blackace
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ManaByte said:
if you look at it from the business side, putting SC on the dreamcast and Tekken on the PS was the best thing they could have done, because no matter who won the console battle they were in the corner of the winner
Actually, it's System 258. 
Tekken, Tekken 2, and Soul Edge/Blade were System 11
Tekken 3, Tekken Tag, and Soul Calibur were System 12
System 11 was basically a PSOne on an arcade board with a little more RAM.
System 12 was about 15mhz faster and featured a different sound chip.
Tekken 4 and Soul Calibur II were system 246.
System 246 is, again, basically a PS2 complete with the Emotion Engine and everything.
Tekken 5 and the upcoming Soul Calibur III are system 258, which is an upgraded version of the 246.
Tekken, Tekken 2, and Soul Edge/Blade were System 11
Tekken 3, Tekken Tag, and Soul Calibur were System 12
System 11 was basically a PSOne on an arcade board with a little more RAM.
System 12 was about 15mhz faster and featured a different sound chip.
Tekken 4 and Soul Calibur II were system 246.
System 246 is, again, basically a PS2 complete with the Emotion Engine and everything.
Tekken 5 and the upcoming Soul Calibur III are system 258, which is an upgraded version of the 246.
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ManaByte said:
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=e...:en-GB:official&q=tekken+5+system+256&spell=1
Tekken 5 is System 256 no?
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Except everywhere on Google?ManaByte said:
;-)
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Not that I don't believe you DC. It's just that I have official literature from Namco (Europe and US though! :-S) that states System 256. WTF is going on?DCharlie said:
Edit Wow another new tag! I am starting to feel sorry for certain moderators on GAF. So much time. So little to do
I hope you boys, MikeWorks/Blackace are at E3 this year. Itd be just super to hook up.
Gaia Theory said:
Okay I'll bite, Tekken 1 for DS and Tekken Tag Tournament for PSP ;-)
Gaia Theory said:
Namco and Sony are are cozy as well. This Gen: Tekken Tag Tournament, Tekken 4, Tekken 5, Tekken 5 Limited Edition, Ace Combat 4, Ace Combat 5, Ace Combat 5 Limited Edition, Time Crisis II, Time Crisis 3, Crisis Zone, Ninja Assault, Vampire Night, Ridge Racer V, Xenosaga, Xenosaga II, Klonoa 2, Katamari Damacy, Moto GP, Moto GP 2, Moto GP 3, Smash Court Tennis Pro Tournament, Smash Court Tennis Pro Tournament 2, Taiko Drum Master...
That's, uh, why I believe and others in this thread we'll see it on PSP.
Blackace said:
I don't see why the game couldn't play exactly like the arcade version since the only thing that would need to be downgraded for the PSP is the visuals. Toning down the backgrounds a bit and making the character models slightly less detailed shouldn't have any effect on how the game plays.
But I'd prefer to see a "Tekkens" game like others have brought up. Use game play features from Tekken 5, but feature characters and stages/BGMs from past games while also including some of the newer characters. (Although Tekken 5 has just about everyone anyway, and those characters not included, like Jun, are represented by newer characters like Asuka)
Gaia Theory
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People said the same thing about Soul Calibur, and so far, it's only coming to the DS.kpop100 said:
defensor said:
I don't know if you can tell the difference between the list I brought up with Namco/Nintendo, and the one you brought up with Namco/Sony. There are 2 big differences.
1) Historically, Namco has given very little support to Nintendo and much to Sony. That has changed dramatically in the last 2 years.
2) Namco is actually collaborating on development with Nintendo as well as releasing exclusive and multiplatform support to Nintendo. With Sony, there is no co-development, only exclusives and multiplatform stuff. That's a big difference, as a collaboration, especially as many as Namco and Nintendo have undertaken, inherently causes a closer relationship to develop.
krypt0nian
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Gaia Theory said:
How else would they get 3rd parties to make Gamecube titles? Seriously?
Who said the same thing about Soul Calibur? Soul Calibur was released on Dreamcast as an exclusive with Soul Edge being on PSone. Soul Calibur was far from being exclusive to Sony once Sega snatched it up and not being on PS1/PS2. As manabyte already said, Namco wanted to port the game but with PS2 not being released yet, Dreamcast was the only system in the cards. As for Soul Calibur DS, is there *actual* confirmation of this coming to DS, or is this just speculation?Gaia Theory said:
1) True, but Sony still has ties with Namco for certain titles. Don't think Namco will alienate Playstation like Capcom did.Gaia Theory said:
2) How is Baten Kaitos and Tales of Symphonia different from what I listed? Nintendo didn't develop those titles but those two were exclusive to Gamecube. Well, not Tales of Symphonia since that got a PS2 release in Japan. I'll give you the rest of those Nintendo developed titles by Namco teams.
Sure Tekken and other games can be brought to DS before PSP. Could you tell me what the touch screen would be used in a Tekken title? Do you even play Tekken games?
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ManaByte said:
oh, really?
OWNED! You have been shamed, manabyte. You should just leave these boards now and never come back.
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Gaia Theory said:
Gaia, you really need to stop mixing your predictions with what you hope so badly in your loins occurs.
At the end of the day, if Tekken is announced at all, it will be for PSP. There's a simple reason for this. NAMCO would do well in assuming that a lot of the PSP userbase will be people loyal to the PLAYSTATION brand. It's that simple. PSP is in the PlayStation brand line. People associate Tekken with PlayStation. You don't have to be a marketing genius to realize that you do not leave the place you know you're most likely to create sales with. Namco is cozy with Nintendo these last years, that's why they released Tekken 5 for Gamecu--.... oh wait. The point is, Namco is a business. There will likely be more PlayStation users on PSP than there will be on DS at the end of the day. And that translates into easy money for Namco with Tekken.
And as proven by the "great" Ridge Racers PSP and the atrocious Ridge Racer DS, it doesn't look like Namco is changing strategies any time soon. PlayStation will get the premiere Ridge Racer and Tekken games, DS will get some others.
P.S. You can't use Xenosaga as an example because it's not really a franchise in the same way Tekken is. Xenosaga did not come out on PSX, it came out on PS2. Xenogears came out on PSX... by a different developer.