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How the bloody hell can I get Windows Messenger to stop starting?

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Ecrofirt

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Bah, I hate this fucking thing. Windows Messenger keeps showing up in my system tray, and I have repeatedly turned it off in msconfig. I've tried finding it in the registry, but I can't find it there, either.

I want this fucking thing to go away.
 

warhead

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Google it up man, there are like 100 fucking websites with the solution...

How do I disable Windows Messenger?

In Windows XP:

(1) Select "Start"
(2) Choose "Control Panel"
(3) Choose "Administrative Tools"
** note in Windows XP Home edition, Admistrative Tools is in Performance and Maintence
(4) Choose "Services"
(5) Right-click on "Messenger"
(6) Select "Stop"
To permanently disable Messenger:
(7) Right click "Messenger"
(8) Select "Properties"
(9) Change "Startup Type" to "Disabled" and click "OK"

In Windows 2000:

(1) Select "Start"
(2) Choose "Settings"
(3) Choose "Control Panel"
(4) Choose "Administrative Tools"
(5) Choose "Services"
(6) Right-click "Messenger"
(7) Select "Properties"
(8) Click "Stop" To permanently disable Messenger:
(9) Change "Startup Type" to "Disabled" and click "OK"

In Windows NT:

(1) Select "Start"
(2) Choose "Control Panel"
(3) Choose "Services"
(4) Right-click "Messenger"
(5) Select "Properties"
(6) Click "Stop" To permanently disable Messenger:
(7) Click "Startup"
(8) Change "Startup Type" to "Disabled" and click "OK"
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Warhead, I've done that. I've got it disabled in Services, and turned off in msconfig, and the bastard keeps starting.
 

warhead

Member
Have you tried to simply remove it? It's in C:\Program Files\Messenger, just remove the executable and you're fine.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
and if I right-click it in the system tray, it tells me it can't turn off because there's something using it. The funny thing is, I don't have any of the programs it mentions running.

Outlook
Outlook Express
MSN Explorer
Internet Explorer
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Fresh Prince said:
Start->Run: msconfig, Startup Tab, uncheck Windows Messenger if Raxel's solution may not work.

If you read my posts, you'd see that I said I turned it off in msconfig twice.

Raxel, I tried your solution. Gave me an error unregistering the OCX file, but upon reboot it hasn't seemed to have started yet.
 
Actually, have you tried disabling it the correct and easiesy way? Right click on the taskbar icon, select Open, and from the window that opens up go to Tools>Options, and click the Preferences tab. Uncheck "Run this program when Windows starts" and "Allow this program to run in the background", hit OK, and close Messenger.
 
Raxel said:
Start->Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%INFmsmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove


THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO. PERMANENT FIX

I remember asking this question on the old forums and this is the best way to get rid of Messeneger.
 

NetMapel

Guilty White Male Mods Gave Me This Tag
Speaking of which, Windows Messenger installed NetMeeting on my computer that automatically shows up in my systray at Windows startup. Also, the frigging Windows Security Centre systray always pop up because I disabled AutoUpdate. Screw SP2 ! I must remove those annoying systrays !!! GAF help me !
 

xsarien

daedsiluap
Gen.Wedge said:
Actually, have you tried disabling it the correct and easiesy way? Right click on the taskbar icon, select Open, and from the window that opens up go to Tools>Options, and click the Preferences tab. Uncheck "Run this program when Windows starts" and "Allow this program to run in the background", hit OK, and close Messenger.

Yeah, worked for me. You don't need to hack the registry or go into the service manager to get rid of this thing anymore, it's pretty straightforward now.
 

teiresias

Member
If your running Windows XP and have at least SP1 installed I believe you can unintsall it in the "windows components" part of add/remove programs just as if it were dial-up networking or something else. You just uncheck it, hit apply, and it uninstalls it and restarts your PC.
 

Lord Error

Insane For Sony
Tools>Options, and click the Preferences tab. Uncheck "Run this program when Windows starts" and "Allow this program to run in the background", hit OK, and close Messenger.
Does that stop it from launching whenever you run Outlook Express, though? I'm a fan of the before mentioned method:

Start->Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%INFmsmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

You can do the same thing if you open certain (forgot which) file, and remove the word "hide" sitting in the front of the msmsgs.inf line, then just go to the add/remove programs panel and de-install messenger. I always used to do that every time I had to reinstall XP.
 

SKluck

Banned
Marconelly said:
Does that stop it from launching whenever you run Outlook Express, though? I'm a fan of the before mentioned method:

Start->Run: RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%INFmsmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

You can do the same thing if you open certain (forgot which) file, and remove the word "hide" sitting in the front of the msmsgs.inf line, then just go to the add/remove programs panel and de-install messenger. I always used to do that every time I had to reinstall XP.

Yes it does. I did that when I first reinstalled win xp and haven't seen messenger since. It's not rocket science, people.
 
The easiest way to do this is to rename the windows messenger folder to something else. Then, when the computer looks for the msmgs.exe file in the windows messenger folder, the folder won't be there. I have my folder named windows messenger.OLD, and it never starts.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
http://tweakxp.com/search.asp?s=messenger&btnFind=Search

Look around the different articles there for a fix.

I've gotten it totally off, and I've got Outlook Express running faster again. Here's what I did:

1. Add/Remove Programs -> Add/Remove Windows Components -> deselect anything you don't want...Messenger should be an option.

2. Reboot if you want, then go to c:\program files and delete the Messenger folder.

Now that you've done this, whenever you load Outlook Express (OE) it will take about a minute or more to load up as it searches for an annoying IM program to start up. To speed this up, you have to go here. *NOTE* It's a registry hack and you have to use "regedit.exe". Don't do it if you aren't comfortable with that. It's relatively easy if you have some knowledge of computers, but if you screw something up, it is PERMANENT. You can really jack up Windows with poor registry changes. ALWAYS back up first.

That said, the registry hack works, OE no longer looks for an IM program at startup, and so it loads up quickly again...no problems. Good luck. PEACE.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Is he talking about that shitty Windows Messenger service, which starts up with XP and is responsible for the stupid pop-up messages, OR does he mean the shitty MSN Messenger program that often starts up with XP *in the system tray* and is a bit of a nuisance to remove?

For Net Messenger, you just go to services.msc and disable the service. Much safer than using msconfig, since you won't affect the Admin account settings this way.

For MSN Messenger, use the link I provided. Use add/remove programs first, then the registry hack if you like to be able to still use OE reliably. Works like a charm.

Those cmd line prompts never worked completely for me. Windows has a lot of those programs as protected files that will be reinstalled on bootup. The netmeeting, xerox, microsoft frontpage and messenger folders sometimes will reappear until you delete the backups from the protected folder (hidden in one of the system folders) then run the command prompt and reboot...and cross your fingers. You'll need to do it from Safe Mode too, b/c some of the files are active and protected until you enter in safe mode or strip out all the services (easier to do the former). Just in my opinion. You could PM Doug. I think he works for MS. PEACE.
 

tedtropy

$50/hour, but no kissing on the lips and colors must be pre-separated
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bune duggy said:
The easiest way to do this is to rename the windows messenger folder to something else. Then, when the computer looks for the msmgs.exe file in the windows messenger folder, the folder won't be there. I have my folder named windows messenger.OLD, and it never starts.

I did that, only I named mine, "FUmessenger." :D
 

rc213

Member
NetMapel said:
Speaking of which, Windows Messenger installed NetMeeting on my computer that automatically shows up in my systray at Windows startup. Also, the frigging Windows Security Centre systray always pop up because I disabled AutoUpdate. Screw SP2 ! I must remove those annoying systrays !!! GAF help me !

Start > Run > Services.msc > Security Center : Disabled
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Might as well throw my question in here:

On my laptop and now my desktop, I almost always get this when I boot up...

WTF5.jpg


Anyone know why? This happens after a perfectly normal shutdown

The last time this was an issue, I think Direct X was the culprit.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
Pimpwerx said:
http://tweakxp.com/search.asp?s=messenger&btnFind=Search

Look around the different articles there for a fix.

I've gotten it totally off, and I've got Outlook Express running faster again. Here's what I did:

1. Add/Remove Programs -> Add/Remove Windows Components -> deselect anything you don't want...Messenger should be an option.

2. Reboot if you want, then go to c:\program files and delete the Messenger folder.

Now that you've done this, whenever you load Outlook Express (OE) it will take about a minute or more to load up as it searches for an annoying IM program to start up. To speed this up, you have to go here. *NOTE* It's a registry hack and you have to use "regedit.exe". Don't do it if you aren't comfortable with that. It's relatively easy if you have some knowledge of computers, but if you screw something up, it is PERMANENT. You can really jack up Windows with poor registry changes. ALWAYS back up first.

That said, the registry hack works, OE no longer looks for an IM program at startup, and so it loads up quickly again...no problems. Good luck. PEACE.

link is broken
 

rc213

Member
DaCocoBrova said:
Might as well throw my question in here:

On my laptop and now my desktop, I almost always get this when I boot up...

WTF5.jpg


Anyone know why? This happens after a perfectly normal shutdown

The last time this was an issue, I think Direct X was the culprit.

Check your event viewer for any entries made just after u get the error.
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
I did, and it's error #1002

Did a search on it, and didn't really come away w/ the answer.
 

rc213

Member
Double click it and it should offer a description and event id & source. Did u check under both Application & System?
 

rc213

Member
Is there an error code?

Example: (Error code: 1000008e, parameter1 c0000005, parameter2 80538105, parameter3 b20feb00, parameter4 00000000.)
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
Code:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 00000000, parameter2 000000ff, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 80529b62.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
Ecrofirt said:
link is broken
Sorry, go to tweakxp.com and run a search for "messenger". A bunch of fixes will come up, and you should read through a few of them before proceeding. There are various "fixes" suggested, but as I said, using add/remove from the control panel and then the registry hack worked best for me. I've done it on three different computers and never had a problem. IMO, try this link for the "MSN Messenger Removal":

http://www.tweakxp.com/display.aspx?id=487

Hope it works. If not, this is the fix:

If you do not use Windows Messenger then why not uninstall it. Every time you start up your computer, Messenger also starts up which can slow everything down and use up more system resources. To uninstall it:

1. Click on the Start button and select Run.
2. Type:

RunDll32 advpack.dll,LaunchINFSection %windir%\INF\msmsgs.inf,BLC.Remove

in the text box and click OK. You will see a progress bar appear shortly as it deletes its files and it will then ask you to reboot. After the reboot the program will be gone.

Uninstalling Messenger on computers that have Service Pack 1 installed

1. Open Control Panel from the Start menu.
2. Choose Add or Remove Programs.
3. Select Add/Remove Windows Components.
4. Click to remove the checkmark next to "Windows Messenger".
5. Click the Next button.
6. Click the Finish button.
7. Reboot

Note - sometimes you have have to perform BOTH operations (both the Add/Remove AND the command line removal)

Then, if you use Outlook Express, it will be crippled at this point since OE will hunt around for an IM program (AIM or MSN). For that fix, you can try this link:

http://www.tweakxp.com/display.aspx?id=108

Which contains:

For some users when they remove windows messenger or just disable it from starting up automatically they experience a great slow down when launching Outlook express. Users who experience such a slow down will find a error in the system error log saying The server {FB7199AB-79BF-11D2-8D94-0000F875C541} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout. The solution this problem is quite simple. Just Open up regedit and search for the string {FB7199AB-79BF-11D2-8D94-0000F875C541} and modify the keys InProcServer32 and LocalServer32 default key to a empty string. After a reboot, Outlook will start up as fast as possible.

Of course, to be on the safe side you should first export the keys to a safe location so you can reimport them if there are adverse results (not that there should be, but it can happen).

Like I said, if you've used regedit before, go ahead and do this. Backup first. If you've never used regedit...well, there's a first time for everything. :D Any change to make to the registry is effective immediately and could have catastrophic effects. But if you're not a total jobber, you shouldn't have any problems. Besides, salvation is just a reformat away...but you're probably trying to avoid that. Anyway, good luck. I'm no Window expert, but this is a change I make everytime I have had to reinstall Windows. PEACE.
 

Pimpwerx

Member
DaCocoBrova said:
Here's what it says:
Source: System Error
Category: (102)
Event ID: 1003
Links me to this from the MS site:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;325947

ASP.NET? Meh, could be erroneous. Look for a program called "uphclean". Well, better yet, try this link here.

UPHClean stands for User Profile Hive Cleanup Service. It doesn't actually clean anything. What it does is it will monitor programs during shutdown and if there's a program that's hanging and causing errors, it will release them, eliminating the error. It also logs the file name so you can try and track down a proper fix. I don't know if the ASP.NET service is your problem, based on the event ID number. UPHClean will tell you for sure, sometimes ASP.NET shows up as an error when it's other programs fucking up. Install UPHClean and reboot. Check the event log on restart and see what gives. You shouldn't be getting that bootup error anymore, as UPHClean will make sure the system shutsdown properly. But it doesn't exactly fix the problem, unless you don't mind having that program permanently installed. I only installed it long enough to track down the problem and make a permanent fix. I was having a problem with the BITS service and eventually had to set it to "Manual" to get the problem fixed. I then uninstalled it b/c I'm anal and don't like any programs running that I don't want. You could always leave UPHClean installed and running. It's small and unintrusive. But I prefer to fix problems properly rather than rely on 3rd party patch jobs like this. Good luck. PEACE.
 

Ecrofirt

Member
For some users when they remove windows messenger or just disable it from starting up automatically they experience a great slow down when launching Outlook express. Users who experience such a slow down will find a error in the system error log saying The server {FB7199AB-79BF-11D2-8D94-0000F875C541} did not register with DCOM within the required timeout. The solution this problem is quite simple. Just Open up regedit and search for the string {FB7199AB-79BF-11D2-8D94-0000F875C541} and modify the keys InProcServer32 and LocalServer32 default key to a empty string. After a reboot, Outlook will start up as fast as possible.

Of course, to be on the safe side you should first export the keys to a safe location so you can reimport them if there are adverse results (not that there should be, but it can happen).

I searched the registry, and in the places that string came up, I couldn't find a LocalServer32 value.

Odd.
 

rc213

Member
DaCocoBrova said:
Code:
Error code 0000000a, parameter1 00000000, parameter2 000000ff, parameter3 00000000, parameter4 80529b62.


Are u using a USB Modem? Updated Network Driver? Does it blue screen on u?
 

DaCocoBrova

Finally bought a new PSP, but then pushed the demon onto someone else. Jesus.
YES! About the bluescreens anyway. I get them fairly often, and that never happens to me.

My EHCD drivers are MIA, so my USB is 1.1 and it reminds me of this everytime I plug something in that's USB 2.0. I made a post about it here... But the problem remains.

Please save me if you can.

Blue screens are embarassing.

I'm not using a USB modem, and I believe my network controller needs drivers, but wireless works fine.
 

rc213

Member
To get a better idea of the Blue Screen u might want to disable the automatic reboot a bsod brings so u can write down the information given. Right Click - My Computer> Advanced> Start Up And Recovery> Settings> Uncheck Automatically Restart. That shoul allow u to write down the information during the bsod. As for the USB 2.0 & NIC drivers, i would need more info on hardware to figure out where to find the drivers.
 
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