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[Ace Harding]

My first time was at a Tom Petty concert. It was amazing. I felt like I finally discovered music, that I had never truly experienced music until that point. I understood the real meaning of TP's lyrics, and understood that they were incomplete without the music to accompany them.

 

[Alligatorjandro]

One time my cousin did shrooms and got lost in San Francisco for a few days

 

[pigeon interrupted]

Worst experience of my life and I will never do them again. Though, it's kind of interesting to see what your mind is capable of.

I'd contemplate doing acid since I hear it's a lot harder to have a terrible 'trip' but too scared of turning permanently schizophrenic or something.

Dude, never take advice from this friend EVER AGAIN

Sage advice

Should be Seanshroom.

IMHO, People fuck up in three very obvious areas:

1) What the fuck are you taking! You can never be 100% with something you did not cultivate or synthesise but test kits are available.

EXAMPLE:
The British Isles have these mushrooms in abundance.

Psilocybe semilanceata is psilocybin mushroom--the good guys, imo. Psilocybin is ingested, it is broken down to produce psilocin, which is responsible for the psychedelic effects and partly ripping off this paragraph from wikipedia.

Psilocin (also known as 4-OH-DMT)a substituted tryptamine (dat indole ring) alkaloid and a serotonergic psychedelic substance. Good vibes, man/woman.

The typical image of mushrooms for the uninitiated:

This potential monster is Amanita muscaria/Fly agaric of the genus Amanita, and is not to be taken lightly. Wait, yes it is: extremely lightly--if taken at all. Newbies steer well clear, imo.

Fly agarics and family are quite different from the psychedelic psilocybin mushrooms: Fly agarics contain ibotenic acid and muscimol. Muscimol acts as a potent, selective agonist for the GABAA receptors and displays sedative-hypnotic and dissociative psychoactivity.


What the risks of taking fly agaric mushrooms?

• Are you sure that mushroom you're about to eat is a fly agaric? Are you willing to bet your life on it? The Amanita mushroom family contains some of the deadliest mushrooms out there, so if you pick and scoff the wrong variety, quite simply, you could die.
  
• It's very common to experience intense nausea and stomach cramps in the hours following ingestion.
  
• There is no way of predicting what your trip will be like, and whether you will find it enjoyable or extremely upsetting.
  
• Body perception and motor skills are changed, making you clumsy, dizzy, and more likely to injure yourself.

2) Environment: internal and external. Clear head, eliminate neuroses, relax. Safe, private and familiar surroundings with outdoors area and observation provided by somebody you trust, ie who isn't going to surprise you with his Wolfman mask or end up saucer-eyed and emitting a garbled stream of noise in effort to communicate.

3) Do you want to take this drug, or is it peer pressure and what is the potential for abuse/addiction, employment drug testing? Any hesitation considering these should indicate something not right.

HALLUCINOGEN CRITICAL:
The experienced friend who insists a first time user should match their (typically) large dose to feel the true effects of whatever hallucinogenic while in a mosh pit at a Black Metal festival is not your friend, buddy.

That's the heavy drinker encouraging the teetotaller to down a bottle of Bourbon, the backseat driver(located in different vehicle) telling the new driver that his/her car is wasted on them unless they experience hitting top speed on a public highway.

They help to fill A&E departments every day and are a very common occurrence. Thankfully, soon to be less common in the UK, since the Tories awarded the Rascal Re-education Program contract to Findus.

Future dickheads will be caring for elderly horses and other unwanted pets at the Meat Island Ranch where MMMBop by Hanson is played on loop and Findus' R&D team teach them ways to enrich and nourish society. Maybe I hallucinated that.

If you feel you have to do a drug: research, research, research and more research. Reputable sources and agencies.

You may then have parallax inkling of what to expect. Low dose: build up from there should you wish to continue.

KNOWLEDGE CRITICAL:
Ideally, since you are intent on playing games with perception and chemistry that regulates just about every function of your body, it may be of benefit to learn basic brain and drug chemistry--just a thought ;p

Also, less unknowns = gud

Categories, compounds, active alkaloids, prodrugs/precursors, half-life,

Spoiler

Dammit Gabe
:'(

applicable transmitter receptor affinities and functions, agonist or antagonist, synergistic effects/dangers, toxicity and LD50, MAOI or SSRI, short term & long term side effects and useful recovery methods and nutrients.

REMEMBER:

 

[Mango Positive]

I've done acid and shrooms hundreds of times over the last 20 years. Having a positive mind set and a comfortable, safe environment as well as a chaperone who will keep you in the real world are extremely important. The first couple of times can be intense, so you want to get used to it before you start doing it at Phish concerts (and you should totally do it at a Phish concert at some point). The reason I prefer shrooms to acid is duration. Acid is a commitment. If you do it at 8 at night, you won't be sleeping that night. You can sleep around 5 hours after doing shrooms. You mustn't be paranoid or have anything that gives you anxiety on your mind.

 

[Futureman]

I've never really enjoyed shrooms. Usually fall into "weird, disturbing thought" trap.

the best time though was my first time. I've never laughed so hard in my life.

 

[Doctoglethorpe]

Sounds like a pretty good trip. And by that I mean a memorable one. Mix of positive stuff and negative stuff (but mostly just really weird stuff) is exactly right. IMO the darker parts of trips are just as important as the positive parts, both can teach you things about yourself you may not have known or were repression almost subconsciously, the darker parts can open your eyes to parts of your personality you weren't aware of before but realize you should change. People who think you should try to only have super happy sunshine rainbow trips are foolish I think. Not that those parts aren't very lovely and all, but everyone has their dark side and hallucinogens can bring those out for some excellent reflection.


And yeah, hallucinogen trips are intense, your not supposed to want to do it again so soon. But you'll probably think on it for a while and the idea of doing it again will grow on you until you're ready and willing to jump back in. Or maybe not, but that's been my experience and my friends.

Congrats, you just opened the doors my friend.

 

[jufonuk]

I've done acid and shrooms hundreds of times over the last 20 years. Having a positive mind set and a comfortable, safe environment as well as a chaperone who will keep you in the real world are extremely important. The first couple of times can be intense, so you want to get used to it before you start doing it at Phish concerts (and you should totally do it at a Phish concert at some point). The reason I prefer shrooms to acid is duration. Acid is a commitment. If you do it at 8 at night, you won't be sleeping that night. You can sleep around 5 hours after doing shrooms. You mustn't be paranoid or have anything that gives you anxiety on your mind.

I once had a seven hour panic attack on skunk once, never again, that is why I would never do shrooms or acid, i know me for 75% of the trip I would have the best time ever, but the 25% would feel like a never ending paranoid night mater I couldn't escape from.

 

[MormaPope]

Don't understand the OP at all. Fighting while on Shrooms? What?

I've tripped three times on shrooms. I don't get outfight hallucinations, rather, I see objects either become something else like a face or some sort of biological pool that has waves. Patterns in the environment can be seen, good stuff. What changes the most for me while tripping is my perspective, I approach different ideas with completely angles I didn't consider before.

While tripping a roast was being cooked at my friend's house and we went up to eat it. I realized while tripping that the roast ahead of us was a beautiful smelling corpse. That if another biological being did that humans we'd be super pissed. I can link different people and ideas to things I wouldn't link to before.

The best thing about tripping is everything is hilarious and distorted. A friend of mine was getting into a argument on the phone, my other friend was also tripping. We both thought that shit was hilarious but we couldn't laugh or say anything. When we were coming back into the city we started a Bob Dole song with all three of us singing the words "Bob Dole" in harmony with excellent pacing.

Basically, tripping is fucking rad, and mushrooms are easy to trip on. Taste doesn't bother me, usually get very light nausea. Now if you want a shotgun blast to your brain tripping wise, DMT is the shit. DMT is pure magic.

Sounds like a pretty good trip. And by that I mean a memorable one. Mix of positive stuff and negative stuff (but mostly just really weird stuff) is exactly right. IMO the darker parts of trips are just as important as the positive parts, both can teach you things about yourself you may not have known or were repression almost subconsciously, the darker parts can open your eyes to parts of your personality you weren't aware of before but realize you should change. People who think you should try to only have super happy sunshine rainbow trips are foolish I think. Not that those parts aren't very lovely and all, but everyone has their dark side and hallucinogens can bring those out for some excellent reflection.


And yeah, hallucinogen trips are intense, your not supposed to want to do it again so soon. But you'll probably think on it for a while and the idea of doing it again will grow on you until you're ready and willing to jump back in. Or maybe not, but that's been my experience and my friends.

Congrats, you just opened the doors my friend.

I've never seen the dark side while tripping. I know the shitty things I do and think about bad actions in the past constantly. I'm very open to my own mistakes in general. When tripping I'm always positive and accept life for what it is.

 

[Arc]

It has its ups and downs. More then anything, a positive environment will help you have fun and avoid a bad trip. Basically just avoid things that will typically bother you, because they will be amplified 100 times when tripping.

You also learn quite a bit about yourself in my opinion.

 

[MacAttack]

Shrooms really do give you a unique perspective on things when you are alone with your thoughts. I prefer to do them in a group setting because having friends around helps keep you 'anchored'.

When something in your environment changes while on them (ie rain, location), and all bets are off and things can go one way or another.

I haven't done any in years but would recommend the experience to most people.

 

[butzopower]

I've tripped twice and both have been very great experiences.

I definitely become more connected with the environment I'm in. I was walking through a small but pretty densely forested area, and had this weird honest feeling that I could be eaten by something huge in a split second. Almost like I was feeling some instinctual feeling mammals must have felt millions of years ago. Then i sat on a bench across my house and considered for what felt like days how I was going to cross the street.

The second time the shrooms were less potent, and I thought the trip ended pretty quickly. I found this large stick that I can to my girlfriend so she could be a wizard or something, which she wanted to get rid of after 5 minutes. I took the stick instead, and carried it for what felt like hours (time dialation and all). When we found our way out of the path we were on, I had a lot of trouble giving up the stick. I felt incredibly attached to it, and worried that it'd be lonely without an owner or other wooded friends. I put it between two trees and imagined the next adventurer would find it as future loot.

Oh ya, and then shit became surreal as we're walked out we we're near the Legion of Honor in San Fancisco, and there's what sounds like a opera going on with people clapping, but neither of us have been here, so it just seems like this weird Greek building in the middle of the forest. Then we walk past and are in the city again. As we walk down the street, these people drive up in a pickup truck wearing Chinese dragon costumes, and large drums, and start going into restaurants and blowing up firecrackers. Me and my girlfriend had started listening to the same song at the same starting time on our phones, so we had music synced up and the whole experience just felt like I was stuck in some indie film. I could almost feel the camera pan out as the first song finished and the rest of our lives began.

 

[lethial]

Loved shrooms. I grew them too. Fun little hobby.

 

[block tower]

shrooms are sketchy, do acid instead.

 

[The Hermit]

I was just very sleepy and 3 hours passes like 3 minutes. My friends told me I was acting zombielike but I was actually really pissed because they were having an amazing time and I barelly felt anything.

 

[GreatestHits]

You just stumbled upon the holy grail. Considering you have no idea what to do with it and it just rocked your world, I would just keep on truckin' my friend

 

[Foffy]

Shrooms can also be one of the most benign experiences of all time. I've done them, had a spiritually fulfilling time, and the next day been fine to do school, work, whatever.

I'd say bad trips often have to do with the amount of "control" you are seeking over any given situation. If you clench and try to be in control of the trip, you will paradoxically have a bad time (like a chinese finger trap). If you let go and accept all experiences (like a practiced mediator instinctively would), then you will have a good time.

But I'm sure there are reasons outside of that where it can go south....

You make me more interested in trying this jazz. It really seems key in shrooms, meditation, and even life to accept all experiences. Trying to guide or control it will only dilute the experience, whatever it is.

 

[RiccochetJ]

Shrooms are probably my favorite. Unlike you OP, nothing happened my first time trying it. The almost depression you talk about, I get that with pot.

 

[Cheshire_Buddha]

Never tried them. Something about tripping balls doesn't appeal to me as it did when I was younger.

I'd contemplate doing acid since I hear it's a lot harder to have a terrible 'trip' but too scared of turning permanently schizophrenic or something.

A few years ago, my friend invited a mutual buddy of ours to trip on acid. I decided to decline, and went upstairs to smoke a few bowls with my roommate while occasionally going to check on them. Eventually, I tried to get some sleep. Not even a hour later, my friend knocks on my door. In a haze, I get up and immediately notice something is wrong. Our buddy is pacing back and forth downstairs, constantly repeating my friend's name over and over again.

I ask my friend how long he's been doing this, and he tells me for at least the past 30 minutes. I'm honestly surprised that I slept through it; he's downstairs being loud as hell. I follow my friend and I find the guy pacing back in forth, hands flailing around in the air. As soon as he sees my friend, he immediately dashes towards him and grabs onto his shirt.

My friend is obviously disturbed at this entire situation. They've done acid before, but nothing like this has happened. He asks me if he should just knock him out (he's a big dude), and I kind of just shrug. I don't know what to do. I suggest calling up his roommate and ex-girlfriend to see if they can maybe calm him down since at this point it was 4 AM. We get a hold of them, they say they can keep an eye out for him, and he take him to his apartment for them to babysit.

Keep in mind, this was about 45 minutes after I came downstairs. He was still on repeat.

We get to his apartment and hand him over. My friend tells them he's tripping on acid and the two of them say he'll be fine. In good hands, the two of us breathe a sigh of relief and head back to my place. My friend is shook up about the entire incident, as he's the one who bought the acid. I assure him that it'll be fine, that his friends have it under control. I offer to smoke him up to, at the very least, calm his nerves.

An hour later we get a phone call from his ex. Apparently, they didn't keep a close enough eye on the guy. Somehow, he got a hold of a kitchen knife and had began to stab holes in the walls of his bedroom. They call the cops, who call some paramedics, who eventually drag him to the nearby hospital. At this point, my friend began to freak out. He says he's going to the hospital to check on him and try to talk him out of it, but eventually he won out. I head out the door with him and he drives to the hospital (at this point, his trip is over). All I can think is, "This is a bad idea."

When we get there, we head to where they were keeping him. After going through long stretches of hallways, we eventually reach where they are holding him....

....and he's still on repeat. He's literally screaming my friend's name out. It's the only thing he's said for the past two hours.

At this point, a cop walks up to my friend and begins to ask him questions. I kind of just stare into the room. I can see him strapped down, thrashing about and screaming out for my friend. I immediately jump to the conclusion that my friend is getting arrested right here, right now. Thankfully, it didn't come to that. We headed back home and got some rest.

Our friend turned out fine. He woke up in the hospital bed with no recollection of what happened. In fact, he makes jokes about it to this day. I don't find any of it funny.

tl; dr: A buddy of mine went ape-shit on acid and it was one of the most stressful nights of my life.

 

[dekline]

I love booms. I haven't tripped in about two years now and I kind of miss it.

 

[Jzero]

I'm going to try some next week.
I'm going to do them alone and listen to music for the whole trip.

 

[Tesseract]

I'm going to try some next week.
I'm going to do them alone and listen to music for the whole trip.

heh, heh, heh

 

[Baldwin_the_First]

First time I did it years ago, I almost didn't feel anything and I broke my mom's kitchen water tap valve by simply opening it.. I think the realization of it made me drop from the small high I was on, that and also my brother being on my ass about it.

The 2nd time was pretty much the same except I didn't break anything, but it could have been just a bad batch of shrooms too. I'd still love to try it once more, but it'd have to either be a bigger portion, or just some better shit.

 

[EmeraldSwords]

Just weed for me, did shrooms once and thought I was talking to the great deku tree.

 

[RiccochetJ]

I'm going to try some next week.
I'm going to do them alone and listen to music for the whole trip.

You should watch the Fifth Element or the Blair Witch Project.

Both are awesome for different reasons.

 

[Jzero]

Just weed for me, did shrooms once and thought I was talking to the great deku tree.

 

[Kraftwerk]

Isis shrooms for the first time two years ago. It was fairly cold here in Toronto and I was getting ready to leave my friends house and bicycle home. His girlfriend offered me some tea before I left, and I said sure. I chugged it down and realized both of them were red-faced and holding in laughter.

The tea was infused with shrooms!

I said whatever. I left and startednpedalin home. My commute from his place is usually 40 minutes. It was close to 2 am so the streets were empty.

I remember feeling normal until the midway point of my ride. There is a hill I have to club which is fairly steep. All I remember isi got off my saddle and started pedalling hard. Suddenly everything exploded and I felt invincible. The rest I barely remember. I woke up and all I could remember was an extremely fast forwar version of my commute with my smiling like James Franco .

Good times.

 

[Dr Prob]

Everyone is wired up differently. Not wanting to repeat any shitty stories; the gist is that in my experience shrooms more often than not serve as a portal to a nightmarish hellscape, while acid induces a beautiful, albeit at times teeth clenching and metal mouthed sense of joy (unless there's a loose Monitor Lizard involved, in which case you've gone back around to the hellscape). But for many people, the reverse could be true. Not sure how it all works.

 

[yongeandcollege]

Love me some shrooms. It's been a while though.

 

[K.Jack]

Your friends failed you. Your first shroom trip should be done somewhere familiar, a place where you're completely relaxed and safe feeling. Like your best friend's apartment. Out in the wild while it's raining seems like a mistake.

Isis shrooms for the first time two years ago. It was fairly cold here in Toronto and I was getting ready to leave my friends house and bicycle home. His girlfriend offered me some tea before I left, and I said sure. I chugged it down and realized both of them were red-faced and holding in laughter.

The tea was infused with shrooms!

That is so fucked up. And they let you leave on a bike? What assholes.

 

[John Rabbit]

Later on, I did experience my first full fledged 'bad trip' and it wasn't even acid or shrooms, but salvia. Was short, but intense and very, very scary. My fault though, cuz I wasn't in a good state of mind(had a big fight with girlfriend and was staying at a friend's house for the night so we could cool off) and I really wasn't entirely prepared for the power of the stuff, thinking it would be a mild little experience, which it is anything but.

i have to prepare for weeks to do a night of salvia. worst trip of my life (but also one of the most eye-opening) occurred on my second time smoking it. really nasty stuff but the potential for amazing visions is quite high.

 

[Hunter S.]

Shrooms to me are the most beautiful and enlightening experience while also being the most scary, and overwhelming compared to other drugs. I am glad did it before, but no one should ever underestimate their power to really fuck with your thinking good and bad.

 

[Kozak]

The worst thing about Shrooms is the shadows.

I don't like psyches but I've used them to kick my own ass a few times.

Most people tend to think psyches are all about the visuals and being so high but forget they have to deal with at least 4 hours of intense introspect.

 

[zer0blivion]

Set and setting are crucial with any psychedelic. If you're not in a comfortable place both mentally and physically, you're probably gonna have a bad time.

 

[railGUN]

Best. Drug. Ever.

But I did my share many years ago and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy them now. Haven't tripped on them in almost 15 years.

We used to love doing them in the winter, at night. We'd all dress up in our snowboarding gear (full snow pants, gloves, toques, boots etc.) and then just wander the streets / fields / forests (no bears in the winter). Find a huge hill and just roll down it. It was so much fun.

 

[Banglish]

Best. Drug. Ever.

But I did my share many years ago and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't enjoy them now. Haven't tripped on them in almost 15 years.

Don't know until you try

I had fun on them.
I think the key is to get the dosage right.

 

[Mau ®]

Been wanting to try schrooms. Hopefully soon.

 

[Hale-XF11]

My first trip ever was the best and every trip since then hasn't lived up to the first one.

It feels like maybe I was only meant to ever do it just once. In my first trip, I had everything about my life figured out and who I was supposed to be and what I needed to do with my life. All the other trips were either just bad or not nearly as introspective.

For the record shrooms > acid. Sure, they'll make you puke if you eat enough, but the trip itself is sooooooo much cleaner.

 

[umop_3pisdn]

I hate it when people get aggressive in a group trip (I don't even understand how that happens unless you're having a psychotic episode or something), you probably shouldn't do psychedelics.

 

[Phreak47]

The key to doing shrooms or acid is set and setting. It's better to be at home, at a friend's, or some other comfortable setting where you know you can forget about any worries for at least 8-10 hours or preferably more. Otherwise, you're just opening yourself up to stress and things can go haywire.

Also, whenever possible don't leave potency to chance and just be guessing how much you should have. Either test small amounts or go on the advice of someone who knows already.

And above all, GLHF.

 

[Phreak47]

My first trip ever was the best and every trip since then hasn't lived up to the first one.

It feels like maybe I was only meant to ever do it just once. In my first trip, I had everything about my life figured out and who I was supposed to be and what I needed to do with my life. All the other trips were either just bad or not nearly as introspective.

For the record shrooms > acid. Sure, they'll make you puke if you eat enough, but the trip itself is sooooooo much cleaner.

Then you've never had good acid. I happen to think the opposite is true.

 

[TheSpaceBetween]

Sounds like a shroom experience alright. I had a similar experience, minus any violence or aggressive behavior. My single LSD trip was way more pleasurable. It was very visual and extremely fun and light hearted. Shrooms were usually less visual and more in my head.

 

[MidnightCowboy]

Cloudy/impending stormy weather has ruined my tripping plans

 

[Chabbles]

I Love shrooms with a passion. Such an amazing drug. Environment and mood is everything though, and can swing a trip one way or another... idk op, but i've never seen someone get aggressive on them, maybe the experience just doesn't agree with you.. or maybe you had some underlying hate for the friend you got aggressive with, and shrooms just brought it out.

I was smoking changa until 7am last night listening to music.

 

[Kozak]

Then you've never had good acid. I happen to think the opposite is true.

Yeah its quite likely most people claiming they've done acid have eaten an NBOMe.

25i gets around a lot these days as acid which is a shame as 25i can be a really unpleasant body load.

 

[Wag]

 

[zoozilla]

*lots o' info 'bout shrooms*

Nice post, though I felt like I somehow got to Shroomery or something.

I've taken shrooms twice in my life; first time was alone, I made hot chocolate with a very small dosage.

I spent most of the time lying in bed with my eyes clothes, as crazy images flew into and out of my head at an insane speed. Some of the images were disturbing, some were sexual, some were just weird, but I remember not really being freaked out by any of it. I felt sort of detached, and appreciated the weirdness of it all. The whole time a melody was playing in my head, too - it was like a melody that was comprised of small loops, which stacked on top of each other and became more and more complicated. I remember thinking that I could record this music in some way it would be so amazing.

Second time was hiking on a trail with my friends - we camped overnight. I don't remember hallucinating much, or at all, really; I just felt this euphoric feeling, and everything was good. I wasn't worried about anything, and I seem to remember smiling for the entire day.

I'd like to try some more in the future, maybe watch a movie or something. For some reason, I like the idea of tripping alone, and getting to do what I want without having to worry about anyone else.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Then you've never had good acid. I happen to think the opposite is true.

I guess that's entirely possible, but I still like shrooms more. The trip somehow feels more natural to me. It's hard to put into words.

 

[Freaky Fred]

I don't think I wanna do it again. It wasn't a particularly bad experience, but it wasn't good either. It was kinda scary too. I'm happy I can say I did it, but it was a bit too intense for me. Anyone else ever try or have considered it?

I'm with ya OP. I've done shrooms twice and acid once. I enjoyed the LSD more, as it was mostly visuals and less thought provoking, but I liked that mushrooms opened my eyes to the world a bit. I'm a different person since I did them, and I really enjoyed them, but I probably won't ever do them again. I just feel really satisfied

edit: oh and I've done yopo seeds and salvia before too, but they were horrible experiences and I wouldn't recommend those to anyone

 

[Kaako]

Amazing/profound learning experience every time if you're willing to observe the internal as well as the external with an open mind. The fear of the unknown/unfamiliar is usually what triggers a "bad" trip. There are no good or bad, just different paths you take consciously, or subconsciously. Enjoy the journey, fellow travelers.

 

[Sub_Level]

Acid is much better than shrooms, at least initially.

Shrooms demand that you have more experience and context.