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I have Series X and I don't understand the negativity around the console

Ainem Enamas

Ainem Enamas

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This generation of MS consoles is awesome to me, I like Quick Resume feature so much! The store have so many games to buy, and sales are pretty often. It has the features in software and hardware to enhance my total view of appreciation
Maybe am overdramatizing this but it feels like people are pushing negativity towards this MS's generation too much
What do you think?
 
Kenneth Haight

Kenneth Haight

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Go Ahead Yes GIF

Glad you’re enjoying it
 
rm082e

rm082e

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Ainem Enamas said:
This generation of MS consoles is awesome to me, I like Quick Resume feature so much! The store have so many games to buy, and sales are pretty often. It has the features in software and hardware to enhance my total view of appreciation
Maybe am overdramatizing this but it feels like people are pushing negativity towards this MS's generation too much
What do you think?
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It's a fine platform for playing multiplatform games. If I didn't care about exclusives and didn't want to spend the money on a nice PC, I'd buy a Series X and enjoy it. I think a lot of the frustration with Xbox is that it feels like they should be crushing it on their exclusives. They have all these resources and developers, but we keep getting these disappointing games.
 
Loomy

Loomy

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The Series X console is fine. Which is why "Next gen will fix it" or "Next Xbox will fix the problem" is dumb and alarming. Microsoft's problem is not the console. It's their inability to properly and consistently support it. Another box isn't going to change anything if everything else around it is still amateur hour.
 
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Kronark

Kronark

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It's not the hardware or box that people are upset about. It's the ecosystem and Microsoft's near 15 year streak of mismanaging both their IPs and studios to point where there is no gaming identity associated with the brand anymore. It's just a generic platform that plays multi platform releases.
 
BennyBlanco

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rm082e said:
It's a fine platform for playing multiplatform games. If I didn't care about exclusives and didn't want to spend the money on a nice PC, I'd buy a Series X and enjoy it. I think a lot of the frustration with Xbox is that it feels like they should be crushing it on their exclusives. They have all these resources and developers, but we keep getting these disappointing games.
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This. Their first party has let them down massively. All these devs and the only notable games since 2020 to me are AOE4 and FH5. Starfield is cool too but most people hated it.

Xbox hardware seems fine. I kinda wanna get one just for the BC stuff.
 
Ainem Enamas

Ainem Enamas

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Parazels said:
Even Xbox One was an underrated console, considering its backward compatibility.

I would have zero chances to play Virtua Fighter 2 and Splinter Cell Chaos Theory without Xboxes.
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Then the question is what people are expecting from a console, I just need something to play...
 
Giallo Corsa

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Brilliant console with nice features held back by MS's incompetency and lack of good exclusives games.

Game pass, while "revolutionary" in the beginning as an idea, is a cancer that spread quickly, conditioning its userbase in not spending a dime in actual games due to the "if it's not on GP I won't bother" mentality.

Again, lovely hardware (so silent/quiet), some really nice features (QR, BC) but terrible everything else.

Personally, I'm happy to have exited their terrible ecosystem, nowadays I prefer to actually buy the games I'm interested in and not getting fed the ones a sub service provides.
 
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Kacho

Kacho

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Ainem Enamas said:
Then the question is what people are expecting from a console, I just need something to play...
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It’s all about individual needs. Some people play multiplats on PC or PlayStation and have a Series X for exclusives. When their output is bad or limited then it creates negativity because the platform holder isn’t delivering.
 
lachesis

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It's not the machine - I love my XSX. The machine is fine, and think this is a very well designed piece of hardware.

But for me - it's about MS's policy of not having meaningful exclusives that devalues their games as a platform holder... that once you have a semi decent PC, you really don't need a Xbox anymore. (To some extent, PS5 feels the same too.)
Also pricing of game pass being out of my comfort zone for a subscription service is another issue for me - so I stopped supporting it. (I am keeping my XSX for my BC games, though.)

I wouldn't mind MS holding their 1st party games 6 month to 1 year with pretty strict exclusive policy, instead releasing day1 on Game Pass (with some exceptions) and other platforms like PC and PS5 - (Sorta like how they released DVD/VHS of a movie after set amount of time after release) - and bring down the subscription pricing under 10 bucks.
 
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Muffdraul

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I love my Series X, it's a kick ass console. But I hardly ever have any reason to power it on.

I got a LOT of milage out of my 360 because back then, the 360s built-in 1080 upscaler was lightyears better than my Bravia's upscaler... and as powerful as the PS3 was, it still had a ton of games that would only run as high as 720p, and they looked like dogshit on my TV. So, my PS3 was relegated to Sony exclusives, and my 360 was my workhorse for MS exclusives and virtually ALL cross platform games. But that was the only generation that happened. Thanks to Sony pulling their head out of their ass and making the PS4 and PS5 with x86 architecture, it's been the opposite. My Xbone and Series X are only useful to me for MS exclusives. Which means they are not very useful to me at all these days.
 
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rm082e

rm082e

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BennyBlanco said:
This. Their first party has let them down massively. All these devs and the only notable games since 2020 to me are AOE4 and FH5. Starfield is cool too but most people hated it.

Xbox hardware seems fine. I kinda wanna get one just for the BC stuff.
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Yeah, I built my PC in early 2012 because I couldn't stand the shit frame rates we were getting on 360 and PS3. I remember thinking at that time "I'll come back to the consoles when they have exclusives that I need to play on them." Xbox just had nothing I was interested in from then on. I was already tired of Halo, Gears, Forza, and Fable. Seeing them continue to push those franchises for all these years and just whiff hard on everything new they've tried has been really sad.

I have a glimmer of hope for Gears of War: E-Day. 4 fell flat with me when I picked it up on PC (on deep sale) so I didn't even bother with 5. Maybe they can bring some magic back to the series...maybe...
 
Chuck Berry

Chuck Berry

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Yeah super hyped for the next Gears (which I thought Id never say) and their BC is still the best out there. It's the only place I can go to still play stuff like Syndicate, Kane & Lynch 2, Enslaved, Rage, etc. Just completely annihilates Sony in that department.
 
Bojji

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From hardware perspective:

-noise
-build quality
-features (like you mentioned, quick resume)

It's great machine. One of the best consoles ever made.

But fucking MS... They completely lost any vision they had (years ago) and sent this console to die.
 
Ainem Enamas

Ainem Enamas

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rm082e said:
It's a fine platform for playing multiplatform games. If I didn't care about exclusives and didn't want to spend the money on a nice PC, I'd buy a Series X and enjoy it. I think a lot of the frustration with Xbox is that it feels like they should be crushing it on their exclusives. They have all these resources and developers, but we keep getting these disappointing games.
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Why exclusive games are so important to some? I personally just want to play something
Using the hardware to the 'max' for exclusive games - that I agree with, because it is beneficial to the game
 
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NastyPasty

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The market has spoken, and decisively. It's clear the hardware isn't the issue per se, so what is? My guess, large digital libraries on PS4, people actually liking PlayStations first party output, and gamers moving to the ecosystem their mates are in.
 
rm082e

rm082e

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Ainem Enamas said:
Why exclusive games are so important to some? I personally just want to play something
Using the hardware to the 'max' for exclusive games - that I agree with, because it is beneficial to the game
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It just depends on what you're into. I'm the kind of person who finds specific things I like, and then I'll buy whatever I need to get it. I fell completely in love with Demon's Souls on PS3, so when From Software announced they were making Bloodborne exclusively for PS4, I said "Well shit. I guess I'm buying one." I waited a while, but I eventually did buy a PS4 just to play Bloodborne, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Worth it.

But that's how my brain works. Plenty of other people just want something that can entertain and don't care as much about the details. That's fine too.

Really, any single platform these days has more good games than almost any player has time to play. Even if you only have a Switch, you could find plenty of great games to keep you entertained.
 
Iced Arcade

Iced Arcade

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great hardware, they own crazy amounts of great IP's.... floaty dense leadership that doesn't have a clue month to month who it wants to be.

they own how many 1st parties studios vs the 360 eras 5 studios owned and look at the game output in comparison lol
 
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night13x

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The system itself is quite fine. Honestly. The critism comes from the dumbfound decisions microsoft makes towards it's brand and the overall lack of quality first party games. If you look at sony in house produced games vs ms in house produced games....it's absolutely night and day overall.

Im not going to completely shit on xbox though. I like competition and when there is competition it raises all ships. My hope is that they can regroup and come out swinging next gen so that they can continue to push sony.

Nintendo is nintendo lol. They make great systems, great games, and great at spending half their day suing people.
 
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Feel Like I'm On 42

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Kronark said:
It's not the hardware or box that people are upset about. It's the ecosystem and Microsoft's near 15 year streak of mismanaging both their IPs and studios to point where there is no gaming identity associated with the brand anymore. It's just a generic platform that plays multi platform releases.
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Well said
 
Fess

Fess

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It’s a great piece of hardware. But for me it just moved into a blind spot in the hobby when everything is on Steam day 1. Before I had a PC in the living room I used the Series X as a Gamepass box but I’ve stopped using mine now, I don’t dislike it or anything it’s just that I can get everything on PC now in better versions. Kids sometimes use it for Skylanders and LEGO games but that’s it. Microsoft have the biggest mountain to climb moving into the next generation.
 
Ainem Enamas

Ainem Enamas

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rm082e said:
It just depends on what you're into. I'm the kind of person who finds specific things I like, and then I'll buy whatever I need to get it. I fell completely in love with Demon's Souls on PS3, so when From Software announced they were making Bloodborne exclusively for PS4, I said "Well shit. I guess I'm buying one." I waited a while, but I eventually did buy a PS4 just to play Bloodborne, and it's one of my favorite games of all time. Worth it.

But that's how my brain works. Plenty of other people just want something that can entertain and don't care as much about the details. That's fine too.

Really, any single platform these days has more good games than almost any player has time to play. Even if you only have a Switch, you could find plenty of great games to keep you entertained.
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Gaming is so beautiful
 
Fbh

Fbh

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I think talking about the differences between the systems and our personal preferences is a fun part of talking about games online.
But yeah people do tend to focus on the negative and don't appreciate stuff for what their are. Series X isn't my console of choice but it's still a decent platform that offers neat features, good value and tons of good games.
 
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onQ123

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The biggest problem is that it's redundant & the people running around saying " just get a PC" to troll PS5/PS5 Pro don't realize it's killing off Xbox consoles because it's not many reasons to have a Xbox Series over a PC. It's like the people sending out the troops are not really their friends.


These people hurt Xbox Series


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Rather than fill up *every* thread with gloating memes ... let’s just do it here so not every PlayStation fan has to endure the suffering of their personal embarrassment in all places at all times.
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AGRacing

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The hardware and even the functionality of the UI, etc. All top notch.

But I bought it for game pass / exclusives. I would have bought it simply for exclusives. They seem to think they should go the other way. If I’m the target consumer… they’re wrong.
 
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mdkirby

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It’s probably good in isolation, if that’s all you have. I have all the systems and barely use any aside from the ps5 (or now the ps5 pro), it’s just comparatively not as good, whether that’s the ecosystem, the ui/ux, the controller or the first party games. I even prefer ps+ to games pass, which i have but hardly ever use.

Everyone is different tho.
 
Ainem Enamas

Ainem Enamas

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Fess said:
It’s a great piece of hardware. But for me it just moved into a blind spot in the hobby when everything is on Steam day 1. Before I had a PC in the living room I used the Series X as a Gamepass box but I’ve stopped using mine now, I don’t dislike it or anything it’s just that I can get everything on PC now in better versions. Kids sometimes use it for Skylanders and LEGO games but that’s it. Microsoft have the biggest mountain to climb moving into the next generation.
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...I don't know what to even think of the next-gen because these are so called the Last Days... AI technologies... you know... Awesome that there's a backlog of games to play, I'm so happy for this thing called Gaming - Video Games... thanks to the Holy Trinity
 
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