noob smokes
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He was over ambitious with the ps3 & bit him in the ass still an amazing piece of tech that was bc with ps1/2 games & could play dvds cds blu ray linux
I miss Satoru Iwata.
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Midway-AGNC-
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It's interest to know PSX dual analog controller came first than N64's standard. Perhaps I was living into an alternative reality all this time and wasn't aware, lol.Which controller is still in the golden standard for today.
This one (PSX)
or
This one (N64)
You don't know anything about gaming.
I literally had all consoles, and a huge library of games growing up.
My experience in game is muich greater than your limited one.
Instant_Classic
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The N64 losing ground to gaming growing up, hurt Nintendo leading into the GameCube.
I will admit, making the GameCube purple was a mistake (should have been black).
But make no mistake, the N64 was the era where gaming was beginning to mature and the audience moved to Sony.
Microsoft releasing the Xbox with Halo was also grabbed a lot of N64 players looking to move on from Nintendo's, kiddy image at the time.
Instant_Classic
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lol, no worries man.
The N64 was a good console, I'm not in any way trying to say it sucked.
RetroGamingUK
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Which controller is still in the golden standard for today.
This one (PSX)
or this one (N64)
You don't know anything about gaming.
I literally had all consoles, and a huge library of games growing up.
My experience in game is muich greater than your limited one.
It's a hybrid of the two
Would Sony have developed Dual Shock if N64's controller didn't exist?
Horseganador
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Well, I didn't like Nintendo at all under Iwata's direction. He abandoned the first division and competed on equal terms with Sony and Xbox with the GameCube to go on to look for casual games with the Wii and WiiU. As a person, it's clear that he was a good guy.
Instant_Classic
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Yes, because the industry knew at the time the N64's solution was not a definitive solution but more of a "means to an end", at the time.
Analog sticks existed much longer before the N64 even existed btw.
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Midway-AGNC-
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He's the gaming god, don't try to question his knowledge because it's heresy.
Instant_Classic
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This
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Pushed gaming forward light-years ahead of anything on the N64.
People who PC gamed at the time literally laughed at people that thought, Perfect Dark or Goldenere were actually "good".
This was the first game that told the industry, FPS can be actuallly "work" on consoles.
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Pushed gaming forward light-years ahead of anything on the N64.
People who PC gamed at the time literally laughed at people that thought, Perfect Dark or Goldenere were actually "good".
This was the first game that told the industry, FPS can be actuallly "work" on consoles.
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SkylineRKR
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Sony actually had the Dual Analog controller quite a way before the Dual Shock. This controller was announced around the time the N64 was released. So it was probably in development for a while.
The Dual Analog actually had concave sticks, which Sony went back to with DS4 onwards.
awwr999999
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It plays PS2/1 games but it doesn't accept PS2/1 memory cards or DS2/1 plugs and you can't boot right into games.
PS has a Japan-only PSX (PS2) console that's more in line with what the PS3 should have been.
Unlike the PS3 it keeps everything from the PS2/1 consoles while adding the PS3's XMB and a host of other features.
noob smokes
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Yeah but u could by a memory adapter & upload the saves on to ps3
awwr999999
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It's an inconvenience and the PS3's PS2 emulator is already setup to use PC style saves via virtual memory cards.
Getting rid of the PlayStation UI/UX from PS1/2 was a massive mistake that hasn't been corrected.
Lining up the PS1/2/3/4/5 side by side it's clear that Sony's PlayStation family has two distinct eras.
PS1/2 as true "PlayStation" Game Machines and PS3/4/5 as Entertainment Computers that play games.
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SamuraiEdge
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Guy was a true legend and solely shaped Nintendo into what it is today. His legacy lives strong.
A true gentlemen.
A true gentlemen.
amigastar
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As far as i know Switch was his project while he was alive but i don't know for sure.
Dr. Wilkinson
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As flawed as any CEO, but certainly very charming and personable. And I always appreciated that he came from humble beginnings, and had that software development background at HAL and later Nintendo.
Oddly, though it wasn't thought so at the time, and he isn't credited much for it, but actually the development of the GameCube console could be his greatest contribution in the context of something that is *now fondly remembered and looked back on with high praise. Of course, at the time it struggled to compete against Xbox and PS2, despite being easier to develop for, and more powerful than PS2. The reputation took a hit early on, and it never really recovered. But from a design and engineering standpoint, GameCube was very well-designed, refined, powerful, compact machine, with some *excellent software.
Wii and DS came out of the gate strong, but I wouldn't say either have aged nearly as gracefully.
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Dr. Wilkinson
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Prior to being promoted to President and CEO, he was chief of internal corporate planning at Nintendo, and was chiefly responsible for overseeing the GameCube and GBA hardware and software planning. Which led to his promotion to President and CEO in 2002. The Wii and DS were his direct responses to GameCube's very poor performance in the market vs N64 and SNES, particularly compared to it's contemporary competitors.
So, yes, the 2003-2012 obsession with gimmicky inputs in hardware and every game for a while needing to have this gimmicky "hook" that made it "unique", in hindsight they went too far. But as we can see with Switch, they did eventually self-correct, and go back to more traditional inputs with just plainly great software.
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belteshazzar
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I agree. The Iwata/Reggie/Miyamoto era was the best leadership Nintendo has ever had. They truly cared, they understood what fun meant too. In the other hand, Furukawa and Bowser are just bland corporate suits. They only care about financials, company culture be damned. Bowser is so dull, I can't believe he hasn't done anything with his last name since he became director of NoA. Instead, we've gotten Don Matrick type quotes from him. I really hope Nintendo doesn't lose its way.
Dr. Wilkinson
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Definitely would remove the word 'soley'. But he was very important beginning 2000-present in shaping the company.
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Dr. Wilkinson
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He passed away july 2015, and it launched march 2017. So as it was starting to take shape, he was certainly involved in those decisions from the highest level.
E-Cat
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One of the less-talked about accomplishments of Iwata was when he was still president of HAL Laboratory, he played a crucial role in enabling the inclusion of the Kanto region in Pokémon Gold and Silver. He developed a compression algorithm that allowed the game to fit within the Game Boy Color's memory limitations, basically doubling the traversable area of the game. Stepping onto Kanto for the first time remains one of the most "mind blown" moments of my gaming career.
NeoIkaruGAF
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Satoru Iwata's is, to this day, the only gaming-related death that ever made me cry irl.
It came so suddenly after that Muppet Show-like E3 presentation. We knew the man was not well, but the news came so sudden.
And then I was browsing GAF's thread about it, and there was all of that sweet art sincerely mourning Iwata, and at one point the tears just came and they went on for a while. That was one truly legendary thread, where for once almost all the console war shit was kept out and people just gathered to pay homage to a man that, amidst a lot of controversy and despite the dark times Nintendo was going through, really made an impression on the industry.
EDIT: and fuck, it's happening again. This thread still hits hard.
It came so suddenly after that Muppet Show-like E3 presentation. We knew the man was not well, but the news came so sudden.
And then I was browsing GAF's thread about it, and there was all of that sweet art sincerely mourning Iwata, and at one point the tears just came and they went on for a while. That was one truly legendary thread, where for once almost all the console war shit was kept out and people just gathered to pay homage to a man that, amidst a lot of controversy and despite the dark times Nintendo was going through, really made an impression on the industry.
EDIT: and fuck, it's happening again. This thread still hits hard.
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E-Cat
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Iwata was the Cool Uncle, but Yamauchi was powerful like an Emperor.
E-Cat
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Primitive lol, are you like 12? (Yes it's hyperbole, I realize there are now gamers in their 20s who did not grow up in the 2D era...)
Even forgoing the notion that the historical greatness of a game is judged against its own generation -- Is it your contention that the 2D games of that era were somehow... lacking? In sophistication? IMO Yoshi's Island is not just great for its time, it's still the greatest Nintendo 2D game -- both design-wise and aesthetically. The controls and performance are great, too, not suffering in any way from the SNES's lack of power.
Or do you think 2D as a form is just inherently "inferior" to 3D? As Gen Y, such a notion is just foreign to me.
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Dr. Wilkinson
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Personality-wise, it was great. But software-wise? Ehhh kinda feel like GameCube was great, GBA was great, software quality lagged during Wii/DS, had a major bounce back with 3DS and eventually Switch. The obsession with innovation resulted in gimmicky inputs and games being forced to have some unique gimmick that didn't always/usually make it better. There was a time they went too far to the extreme. Glad they course-corrected and we got the Switch. That was also the era that series like Paper Mario and others were no longer allowed to have story or unique characters, which quite literally ruined Paper Mario, until we finally got TTYD remake last year. That's a positive sign.
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