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[noob smokes]

You miss PS1-PS2 Kutaragi. Ken took the wrong path with PS3 which should have been an improved PS2 that extended all of the PS2's best attributes.
Instead we got a Nvidia PowerPC with the worst gamepad in PS history. Correcting that error cost Sony a fortune and stranded PS on AMD/AMD HW far away from Kutaragi's PS2 built on Sony's own Emotion Engine.
The PS2 replaced the PS1 by doing everything the PS1 does better through lossless evolution - there's no logical reason to own a PS1 if you own a PS2.
There's still plenty of logical reasons to own a PS2 because nothing has replaced it and a PS2 is still the only way to get the full PS2 experience.
Every PlayStation console is a game machine and should exist as a modern extension of the PS2 console that retains the PS2's core attributes across generations.

He was over ambitious with the ps3 & bit him in the ass still an amazing piece of tech that was bc with ps1/2 games & could play dvds cds blu ray linux

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

Which controller is still in the golden standard for today.

This one (PSX)

or

This one (N64)

You don't know anything about gaming.

I literally had all consoles, and a huge library of games growing up.

My experience in game is muich greater than your limited one.

It's interest to know PSX dual analog controller came first than N64's standard. Perhaps I was living into an alternative reality all this time and wasn't aware, lol.

 

[Instant_Classic]

It is true that a lot of third parties left Nintendo after the SNES. The N64 had a fraction of the support. The SNES was largely carried by Konami and Capcom, those were gone. They did a few things for N64, nothing on the level of MGS or the latest RE day one. Namco was also kind of gone. And Squaresoft. All these 4 became big publishers of PSX games.

But N64 still had its crowd. And was creatively in a good place. Nintendo managed to succesfully translate their IP to the 3D space.

I think the bigger fuckup is the Gamecube. They were late, and the console never had a real fighting chance. It wasn't taken seriously. It was easy to mock, IIRC Ed Fries said in EGM; in the end GC is a cute purple box with a handle. Hell, GC didn't even sell that great at 99 bucks which might be like the lowest a console ever went. I think this was like 2 years post launch? I bought one used for 50 bucks, the price of a game.

The N64 losing ground to gaming growing up, hurt Nintendo leading into the GameCube.

I will admit, making the GameCube purple was a mistake (should have been black).

But make no mistake, the N64 was the era where gaming was beginning to mature and the audience moved to Sony.

Microsoft releasing the Xbox with Halo was also grabbed a lot of N64 players looking to move on from Nintendo's, kiddy image at the time.

 

[Instant_Classic]

It's interest to know PSX dual analog controller came first than N64's standard. Perhaps I was living into an alternative reality all this time and wasn't aware, lol.

lol, no worries man.

The N64 was a good console, I'm not in any way trying to say it sucked.

 

[RetroGamingUK]

Which controller is still in the golden standard for today.

This one (PSX)

or this one (N64)

You don't know anything about gaming.

I literally had all consoles, and a huge library of games growing up.

My experience in game is muich greater than your limited one.

It's a hybrid of the two

Would Sony have developed Dual Shock if N64's controller didn't exist?

 

[Horseganador]

Well, I didn't like Nintendo at all under Iwata's direction. He abandoned the first division and competed on equal terms with Sony and Xbox with the GameCube to go on to look for casual games with the Wii and WiiU. As a person, it's clear that he was a good guy.

 

[Instant_Classic]

It's a hybrid of the two

Would Sony have developed Dual Shock if N64's controller didn't exist?

Yes, because the industry knew at the time the N64's solution was not a definitive solution but more of a "means to an end", at the time.

Analog sticks existed much longer before the N64 even existed btw.

 

[Midway-AGNC-]

It's a hybrid of the two

Would Sony have developed Dual Shock if N64's controller didn't exist?

He's the gaming god, don't try to question his knowledge because it's heresy.

 

[Instant_Classic]

This

+ This

Pushed gaming forward light-years ahead of anything on the N64.

People who PC gamed at the time literally laughed at people that thought, Perfect Dark or Goldenere were actually "good".

This was the first game that told the industry, FPS can be actuallly "work" on consoles.

 

[SkylineRKR]

It's a hybrid of the two

Would Sony have developed Dual Shock if N64's controller didn't exist?

Sony actually had the Dual Analog controller quite a way before the Dual Shock. This controller was announced around the time the N64 was released. So it was probably in development for a while.

The Dual Analog actually had concave sticks, which Sony went back to with DS4 onwards.

 

[Humdinger]

Well boo fuckin hoo.

 

[awwr999999]

He was over ambitious with the ps3 & bit him in the ass still an amazing piece of tech that was bc with ps1/2 games & could play dvds cds blu ray linux

It plays PS2/1 games but it doesn't accept PS2/1 memory cards or DS2/1 plugs and you can't boot right into games.
PS has a Japan-only PSX (PS2) console that's more in line with what the PS3 should have been.
Unlike the PS3 it keeps everything from the PS2/1 consoles while adding the PS3's XMB and a host of other features.

 

[noob smokes]

It plays PS2/1 games but it doesn't accept PS2/1 memory cards or DS2/1 plugs and you can't boot right into games.
PS has a Japan-only PSX (PS2) console that's more in line with what the PS3 should have been.
Unlike the PS3 it keeps everything from the PS2/1 consoles while adding the PS3's XMB and a host of other features.

Yeah but u could by a memory adapter & upload the saves on to ps3

 

[awwr999999]

Yeah but u could by a memory adapter & upload the saves on to ps3

It's an inconvenience and the PS3's PS2 emulator is already setup to use PC style saves via virtual memory cards.
Getting rid of the PlayStation UI/UX from PS1/2 was a massive mistake that hasn't been corrected.

Lining up the PS1/2/3/4/5 side by side it's clear that Sony's PlayStation family has two distinct eras.
PS1/2 as true "PlayStation" Game Machines and PS3/4/5 as Entertainment Computers that play games.