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[Toki767]

I'd wait for the 95W 1055T. A few sites are taking pre-orders so it should hopefully be out in 1-3 weeks.

I guess I can hold out on a new computer for a few weeks then. This is what I have so far.

http://i29.tinypic.com/34y8sh1.jpg

I haven't picked a video card yet because NCIXUS doesn't have any 1gb 460s yet. I was thinking of just getting that elsewhere though. Maybe once Amazon starts carrying them so I can get it with no tax and free shipping. Ordering from NCIX instead of Newegg because I'm in California so I'd get taxed. Also I'm thinking of just spending the extra $46 and just having them assemble it for me.

 

[Hazaro]

I guess I can hold out on a new computer for a few weeks then. This is what I have so far.

http://i29.tinypic.com/34y8sh1.jpg

I haven't picked a video card yet because NCIXUS doesn't have any 1gb 460s yet. I was thinking of just getting that elsewhere though. Maybe once Amazon starts carrying them so I can get it with no tax and free shipping. Ordering from NCIX instead of Newegg because I'm in California so I'd get taxed. Also I'm thinking of just spending the extra $46 and just having them assemble it for me.

http://www.ncixus.com/products/51007/M4A89GTD PRO/USB3/ASUS/
Toss that in instead. I only do it because it has 140W CPU support, might be needed for the future.

How much is the shipping totaling out to be from NCIXUS? Amazon carries a pretty good selection of computer parts too.

 

[Toki767]

http://www.ncixus.com/products/51007/M4A89GTD PRO/USB3/ASUS/
Toss that in instead. I only do it because it has 140W CPU support, might be needed for the future.

How much is the shipping totaling out to be from NCIXUS? Amazon carries a pretty good selection of computer parts too.

The one thing I hate a lot about NCIXUS is that they don't let you buy AMD processors separately. You have to buy them in a bundle which is why I just chose the one I did.

Shipping total is about $80 with an extra $20 for insurance and express RMA. Not sure if the extra $20 is worth it though. I'd definitely order from Amazon but at this point I don't feel like putting together a computer and running tests on it to make sure everything is fine. I'd rather just pay NCIXUS $46 for them to do it for me.

Sounds like after I get a video card I'll be up to about $1050 which I suppose isn't the worst thing since I hope this will last me at least 5 years if not more.

 

[kinggroin]

Alright, how'd I do?

My old system:

Raidmax 530w
e8400 @ 4ghz
Radeon 4870 Sapphire Toxic
4GB DDR2
Gigabyte mthrbrd no frills, no xfire

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Bought a 5970 for the above, but for whatever reason, my system wouldn't let me OC the CPU with the card in it, causing a serious bottleneck. So, I actually had performance that was sometimes equal to my 4870 based system!

I needed a better foundation and support for this beastly GPU, and had a very limited budget now.

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New System:

Corsair 750w
Phenom II x4 940 BE with Arctic Cooler 64 HSF (going to 4ghz with it)
Radeon 5970 Sapphire
4GB DDR2
MSI 790xt xfire ready

Did that for $340, only $100 came from pocket (sold the old parts).

 

[Shaka]

Could anyone recommend me a build? I want something I can use for 3DS Max, Z Brush and gaming. I've been looking but the sheer number of parts is a bit daunting :lol Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Hazaro]

Could anyone recommend me a build? I want something I can use for 3DS Max, Z Brush and gaming. I've been looking but the sheer number of parts is a bit daunting :lol Any help would be appreciated.

Tell me:
If those programs prefer Intel/AMD
If they use more than 4 cores
If they support GPU processing (nVidia/ATi)
...and if GPU support is based on CUDA cores or SPU count.

Then I can help you better.

 

[FleckSplat]

Okay, I'm up. Can anyone provide an answer about my graphics card's molex adapter?

There are six wires, but two brown wires are coming out of the bottom middle hole. The hole above that has nothing in it and you can see through to the other side.

Is this normal? The six-pin side of the adapter also sits very loosely in my gfx card's second six pin slot.

 

[Psy-Phi]

Could anyone recommend me a build? I want something I can use for 3DS Max, Z Brush and gaming. I've been looking but the sheer number of parts is a bit daunting :lol Any help would be appreciated.

I am only slightly familiar with Gaming vs Workstation cards in person, so take this advice with that in mind.

Unless there's been some crazy advances in the GeForce and ATi Series cards, any system capable of gaming should function in a fairly basic manner with 3DS Max & Z Brush; but they won't function as well as a system with a card dedicated to that kind of work (like a Quadro FX). But then the Quadro FX's aren't so great with games, better with games than the gaming cards are with rendering programs though.

You'll have to choose which is more important to you, cutting edge graphics in your games, or faster renders, with better performance of the on screen models and textures you'll be working with in your 3d modeling.

If you want the professional side, go with the something like the Quadro FX 3800.

If you want the gaming side, it looks like the GeForce 460's are doing very well, for a low price point.

The way I understand it, there's no card that excels at both. You get one or the other. Really you should have two computers for the two things you're trying to do, if you want the best possible performance in both instances anyway. It's a real toss up for someone that wants both. Maybe you can put both cards in the same system? I'm not sure how well they'd play together.

And sorry, I don't know much about ATi's workstation videocard line so I can't recommend any with personal experience (I don't render a damn thing personally, but thee's some cad designers where I work, and they could not do their work effectively with gaming videocards. Also, schools like Expression in Emeryville that work with 3D modeling and CGI do not use gaming grade cards in their computers -- I looked at them 3 years ago as a possible step on my career path after getting my A.S.).

After you make that choice, any system with a quad core processor would be a good choice. You didn't mention a budget so I'm kind of at a loss of what to suggest frankly. AMD/Intel shouldn't make a difference, though, for the modeling I'd suggest 6GB of some fast DDR3 RAM.

 

[FleckSplat]

I just tried a different, five year old video card with only one six-pin plug and the same issue came up. I'm afraid I may have messed something up.

 

[Hazaro]

Okay, I'm up. Can anyone provide an answer about my graphics card's molex adapter?

There are six wires, but two brown wires are coming out of the bottom middle hole. The hole above that has nothing in it and you can see through to the other side.

Is this normal? The six-pin side of the adapter also sits very loosely in my gfx card's second six pin slot.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=22427250&postcount=9542
See if that helps.

Also molex to 6 pin come in a ton of flavors. Ranging from all 6 to maybe 4 wires going in.
http://www.atacom.com/html3/CABC/graphics/CABC_GENE_C0_6Q_more.jpg

Loose should be ok as long as it's making contact. Does it not snap in? Try holding / the power on off like I said.

*Also I think most high end GPU's do perfectly fine for rendering stuff. I could be wrong, but it's nowhere near as slow as they used to be since many GPU's today have CUDA cores and whatnot.

 

[FleckSplat]

Right. It doesn't snap in. I'll try resetting and reseating everything

 

[shigsy]

There are six wires, but two brown wires are coming out of the bottom middle hole. The hole above that has nothing in it and you can see through to the other side.six pin slot.

This is fine. Basically the adapter acts as a Y splitter. You feed it a molex from your PSU and connect the 6 pin end to your graphics card.

 

[Hazaro]

Also try running with 1 stick of RAM, then testing the other one.
Do you have a speaker plugged in? Does your mobo beep?

If all of that doesn't work try running the system outside the case (Pain I know)

You do have the 4/8 ping power going to the motherboard right? In addition to the 20+4 pin power.

Also pictures of PC might help. Never know if you just missed something or whatever.
Lastly I added you on Steam so if you get on I might be able to help for a bit.

 

[kagete]

Also try pushing the two 6pins really firmly into the card until it clicks! Also, did you remember to use the brass motherboard standoffs before screwing in the mobo to the case?

 

[FleckSplat]

Also try pushing the two 6pins really firmly into the card until it clicks! Also, did you remember to use the brass motherboard standoffs before screwing in the mobo to the case?

Yes to the standoffs. I just pushed it till it clicked, that seemed to do something. Now the power to the PC won't turn on.

I think it has to do with the 4-pin to 8-pin thing Hazaro mentioned...I don't remember plugging something like that in.

 

[kagete]

Yes to the standoffs. I just pushed it till it clicked, that seemed to do something. Now the power to the PC won't turn on.

I think it has to do with the 4-pin to 8-pin thing Hazaro mentioned...I don't remember plugging something like that in.

Aside from the 24 pin power that you plugged in to your mobo. There's a 4-pin power connector you need to plug in that is usually nowhere near the 24 pin slot. Some power supplies dont have just a 4 pin, but 2 4 pins together. In most cases, you only need one 4 pin plugged in to the mobo.

The cord i'm talking about looks like this:

 

[kagete]

Oh is your 24 pin power loose? Did it click when you pushed it in?

 

[KingFire]

What are some of the good heatsinks for Phenom II X4 955??!?


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[kagete]

What are some of the good heatsinks for Phenom II X4 955??!?


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Coolermaster Hyper 212+
30$ at amazon, and I think someone mentioned $20 at microcenter. Don't get it from newegg as they charge $50 for it. It's what I use for the same proc, and I have a max of 50 degrees at full load with a meager overclock to 3.6Ghz

 

[KingFire]

Thank you. Sorry for the stupid question, but does it come with the fans or do I need to buy them? and if I so what is the best deal?

Sorry I'm totally new to cooling and heatsinks. Have been sticking with my stock heatsink for ages.

 

[kagete]

Comes with everything you need, even thermal paste

 

[desa]

What's a good $70 or under motherboard for a Phenom II X4 940? There's just way too many of them and a lot of them sound good but I don't know which to choose :lol

 

[Salaadin]

Is it safe to change the default installation directory to D: in the registry so that all programs default to install there?

I want to pick and choose what goes on my SSD but some installers dont let me choose and default to C:\Program Files all of the time. Any other workarounds here?

 

[Amneisac]

Is it safe to change the default installation directory to D: in the registry so that all programs default to install there?

I want to pick and choose what goes on my SSD but some installers dont let me choose and default to C:\Program Files all of the time. Any other workarounds here?

I think all programs have to install on the primary partition (same as the registry). This has always been my experience, not sure of any possible workarounds.


Question:
What speed 120mm fan should I be considering to replace the stock cooler master fan on my hyper 212 plus? I'm looking at some Scythe S-Flex fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185065&Tpk=Scythe S-FLEX SFF21G that are 1900rpm, is that okay? Too much? I'm going to ultimately buy three of them, two for the Hyper 212 plus and one for the rear exhaust, then I'm going to move the Antec Tricool that is currently my rear exhaust to the front of the case and leave it on 'low'.

Also, I'm going to keep these all on the 12v sysfan inputs on my board and not adjust the speed so they'll be going full tilt all the time, should I kick it back to the 1600rpm?

 

[Manp]

I think all programs have to install on the primary partition (same as the registry). This has always been my experience, not sure of any possible workarounds.

wrong
must resist avatar quoting

I want to pick and choose what goes on my SSD but some installers dont let me choose and default to C:\Program Files all of the time. Any other workarounds here?

custom installation? can't remember an installer that doesn't let you chose the destination folder...

 

[Amneisac]

My bad, yeah I was totally wrong about that.

Would three of these Gentle Typhoons be overkill? Two on a Hyper 212 Plus and one as rear exhaust? I just want to have great temps and still be pretty quiet if possible.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185092

 

[Hazaro]

Question:
What speed 120mm fan should I be considering to replace the stock cooler master fan on my hyper 212 plus? I'm looking at some Scythe S-Flex fans http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185065&Tpk=Scythe S-FLEX SFF21G that are 1900rpm, is that okay? Too much? I'm going to ultimately buy three of them, two for the Hyper 212 plus and one for the rear exhaust, then I'm going to move the Antec Tricool that is currently my rear exhaust to the front of the case and leave it on 'low'.

Also, I'm going to keep these all on the 12v sysfan inputs on my board and not adjust the speed so they'll be going full tilt all the time, should I kick it back to the 1600rpm?

75CFM is probably a bit louder than you'd want.

Grab some low speed yate loons from petra's tech shop.
http://www.petrastechshop.com/120x25mmfans.html
Don't spend so much on fans. You are crazy.

*2 fans on a HS won't help CPU temps that much but can help general case airflow. I have a 120mm in my drive bay to help with that.

custom installation? can't remember an installer that doesn't let you chose the destination folder...

I've run into a few that don't.

I just tried a different, five year old video card with only one six-pin plug and the same issue came up. I'm afraid I may have messed something up.

RAM in wrong slots
Mobo power not in
GPU not hooked up to dual proper 6 pins
CPU Fan


Read your manual and triple check your connections!

 

[WEGGLES]

I was just converting some videos to go on my dads iPhone and opened up Speed Fan

Is that an OK temp?

 

[SuperAwesome]

I was just converting some videos to go on my dads iPhone and opened up Speed Fan

Is that an OK temp?

90+ is kind of high.

 

[Felix Lighter]

I was just converting some videos to go on my dads iPhone and opened up Speed Fan

Is that an OK temp?

If they're accurate, they are too high. Make sure your heat sink is secure.

 

[WEGGLES]

How do you make sure it's connected properly?

I followed the instructions, it said to snap in each of the feet and turned the thing 90 degrees. Though, I screwed up when I first put it on, took it off then put it back on. But some of the thermal grease was left on the cpu. I put the fan back on in the same orientation and snapped it in. Could that have done it?

 

[Felix Lighter]

How do you make sure it's connected properly?

I followed the instructions, it said to snap in each of the feet and turned the thing 90 degrees. Though, I screwed up when I first put it on, took it off then put it back on. But some of the thermal grease was left on the cpu. I put the fan back on in the same orientation and snapped it in. Could that have done it?

I guess the first thing I would do is download RealTemp and CoreTemp and make sure the Speedfan readings are accurate.

I would think, if the thermal compound was left on the CPU it shouldn't be an issue because it should spread back out when the heatsink is pressed back on.

 

[kinggroin]

How do you make sure it's connected properly?

I followed the instructions, it said to snap in each of the feet and turned the thing 90 degrees. Though, I screwed up when I first put it on, took it off then put it back on. But some of the thermal grease was left on the cpu. I put the fan back on in the same orientation and snapped it in. Could that have done it?

Make 100% sure that you've removed the plastic cover on the bottom of the heatsink. I know a few people (including myself) that left the plastic sheet attached and applied grease to THAT :lol

Those temps reek of poor contact. You shouldn't be higher than 70c stock everything at that load.

 

[grap3fruitman]

Public Wishlist on Newegg for my ma's WIP HTPC.

I'm a little over-budget, any suggestions?

Any suggestions for this build?

 

[Felix Lighter]

Any suggestions for this build?

I'm not all that familiar with the benefits of a SSD but would you see much improvement other than quicker OS boot time? I'm assuming you have other storage for media already.

 

[WEGGLES]

Real Temp is reporting the same temps.

Could it just be because I'm converting a whole season of a TV show to go on my dads iPhone?

I'll check what it's doin when I'm running L4D.

Make 100% sure that you've removed the plastic cover on the bottom of the heatsink. I know a few people (including myself) that left the plastic sheet attached and applied grease to THAT :lol

Those temps reek of poor contact. You shouldn't be higher than 70c stock everything at that load.

It was stock cooling that came with my i5 750, and it had pre-applied thermal paste so hopefully that isn't it 'cause that means intel goofed as much as me :lol

 

[Felix Lighter]

Real Temp is reporting the same temps.

Could it just be because I'm converting a whole season of a TV show to go on my dads iPhone?

I'll check what it's doin when I'm running L4D.

If it simply turns out that your stock cooler is inadequate for your usage, the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ that has been recommended a lot lately, is only $30 on Amazon and apparently only $20 at Micro Center. Looking at reviews, it performs as good or better than heat sinks 2-3 times the price.

 

[Shambles]

Any suggestions for this build?

The processor seems overkill for a media playing machine as well. I wouldn't spend over 100$, throw insomething like the Athlon 635 instead with an AM3 motherboard with integrated video.

This motherboard for 65$ and the Athlon give you 165$ for both the MB and CPU rather than the 285$ you have now. And yes, axe the SSD. It's not going to do anything for media playback.

 

[WEGGLES]

If it simple turns out that your stock cooler is inadequate for your usage, the Cooler Master Hyper 212+ that has been recommended a lot lately, is only $30 on Amazon and apparently on $20 at Micro Center. Looking at reviews, it performs as good or better than heat sinks 2-3 times the price.

Awesome, I was running down to the computer store right now for a firewire card. I'll see if they have it.


It's running that hot while playing l4d as well. Damn.

There's a round of L4D Survival.

 

[kagete]

Awesome, I was running down to the computer store right now for a firewire card. I'll see if they have it.


It's running that hot while playing l4d as well. Damn.

There's a round of L4D Survival.

That is HOT. It's probably just the fit of the stock cooler though

 

[Felix Lighter]

That is HOT. It's probably just the fit of the stock cooler though

Yeah, I agree. I would imagine that it just isn't making good contact but upgrading the heat sink is a good idea for $20. Also, it opens up the possibility to overclock in the future.

 

[kagete]

Any suggestions for this build?

If it's for your mom's living room playback/couch surfing on an hdtv then why not get here something like the Dell Zino or another prebuilt?

http://outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnline...x?brandId=2202&c=us&cs=22&fid=1047&l=en&s=dfh

Has bluray and Windows 7 (~$150 if you bought them yourself) for $330. I assume this will have tax.

EDIT: oops looks like that's a dynamic list for refurb Zinos. I'm sure you can score something similarly priced while checking out deals sites or other manufacturers

 

[Haint]

Core i5 760 is apparently now available. Do you guys think this is likely to run into compatibility issues with out of the box mobo bios versions? On that topic, how do you update the bios without functioning processor, do ship it in to the manufacturer?

 

[WEGGLES]

Yeah, I agree. I would imagine that it just isn't making good contact but upgrading the heat sink is a good idea for $20. Also, it opens up the possibility to overclock in the future.

I took the fan out and put it back on. Seemed to do the trick.

I'll probably get a cooler in the future. I'm also considering putting 2 more fans in my case, there's 2 spots at the top where they could go. We'll see. I'm fucking broke right now :lol


Here's after re-installing the cooler. One round of l4d survival, game maxed out.

 

[Toki767]

Does anyone know what the best fan setup for airflow is for the Antec Three Hundred? I don't mean what brand of fans to get, but rather which of the 5 fans should be intake and which should be exhaust.

 

[kagete]

Does anyone know what the best fan setup for airflow is for the Antec Three Hundred? I don't mean what brand of fans to get, but rather which of the 5 fans should be intake and which should be exhaust.

2 in Front go in, anything up top and the rear goes out. Side fans are tricky, as there are various schools of thought. Some recommend blowing something on your card while others say its best to just seal the sides completely.

 

[Fitz]

Core i5 760 is apparently now available. Do you guys think this is likely to run into compatibility issues with out of the box mobo bios versions? On that topic, how do you update the bios without functioning processor, do ship it in to the manufacturer?

It may well not be recognised by a BIOS without an update, of which I'm sure are available. You wouldn't really be able to update the BIOS without a processor, however even if your CPU isn't recognised it should still function correctly but be limited to a lower multiplier or something similar, allowing you to still boot into the OS as normal and update the BIOS, the process for which varies with manufacturers.
At least that was my experience with my PII 955, it wasn't recognised by my BIOS initially and was limited to something like 800MHz, so I just ran the ASUS BIOS update utility and it was fine after that.

 

[Toki767]

2 in Front go in, anything up top and the rear goes out. Side fans are tricky, as there are various schools of thought. Some recommend blowing something on your card while others say its best to just seal the sides completely.

That's what I was thinking. I figure since the case has a spot for a side fan, I'd use it just in case the GPU could use some extra wind.

 

[Diablohead]

I was just converting some videos to go on my dads iPhone and opened up Speed Fan

Is that an OK temp?

 

[kagete]

Everyone remember the Dell XPS 7100 brainstew recommended a while back? The one with bluray, hexacore amd and a 5870 for ~$1100? Well Dell has it for $309 off with code "?8CN$RJ?W5TQ0C" and that's a really good price. Looks like it ships quickly too