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[Hawk269]

My advice is what it always is, if you're currently happy with your performance, then don't upgrade.

Its unlikely that we'll see a reveloutionary product launched from Nvidia before March '11 but they could refresh their cards with a "full fat" GF100 taking over as their premier GPU in that sort of timeframe.

Brain_Stew...should I refund my dual 460's in favor of 1 480? I am about to pull the trigger but need advice. Fry's has a zotac 480 instock right now and one of the 460's came from frys, so I would refund/then purchase. the 2nd 460 would go to newegg.

What do you think? Going to need to decide soon, so I can make it out the door.

Thanks

 

[alanias]

I'm interested in building a PC, but I've never built one before. I want to run this by GAF to see if these are all right.


These are the part, would this make a decent gaming computer?

CASE: Cooler Master Mid Tower Case
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XIST1Y/?tag=neogaf0e-20

PROCESSOR: Intel Core i7 860 2.8 GHz
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KE8/?tag=neogaf0e-20

MOTHER BOARD: Intel Core i7/i5 LGA1156
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002XDQC4K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

VIDEO CARD: EVGA nVidia GeForce 9800GT 1 GB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001OV7MIC/?tag=neogaf0e-20

MEMORY: CORSAIR XMS3 DHX 4GB ( 2 X 2GB ) x2 (Total 8 gig)
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0014BOQ54/?tag=neogaf0e-20

HARD DRIVE: Western Digital 1 TB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002U1N95K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

POWER SUPPY: Corsair CMPSU-750TX 750-Watt:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000X2677A/?tag=neogaf0e-20

CASE FAN:Cooler Master 120mm Silent Case Fan
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000O8I474/?tag=neogaf0e-20

DISK DRIVE: LG Electronics SATA Super Multi DVD+/-RW Internal Drive
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002C9K3UO/?tag=neogaf0e-20

CPU COOLER: Corsair Cooling Hydro Series H50
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002QG2H7K/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Never spend 300 on a processor and <100 on a graphics card. Upgrade the graphics to a 1gb GTX460, drop down to the i5, and you should be set.

 

[brain_stew]

Thank you so much.

Spoiler

You too Zakari for the effort.

If you have the time, could you please tell me how much worse does it compare? Like not close to it or not even remotely in the same league?

This should give you an idea:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/23?vs=53

With modern games and applications finally making good use of quads its probably a half decent CPU these days but its single/dual threaded performance leaves a lot to be desired.

I'd say its like a 2ghz Core 2 Quad at a push, so about ~20% slower overall.

Don't pair it with anything above GTX 260/5770/4870 level hardware.

 

[Tensai]

My advice is what it always is, if you're currently happy with your performance, then don't upgrade.

Its unlikely that we'll see a reveloutionary product launched from Nvidia before March '11 but they could refresh their cards with a "full fat" GF100 taking over as their premier GPU in that sort of timeframe.

A full fat fermi has been leaked already and has been benchmarked. Average framerates were 6% better, certainly nothing to get excited about and makes you realise that nvidia were wise to cripple the original GTX480.

 

[brain_stew]

Never spend 300 on a processor and <100 on a graphics card. Upgrade the graphics to a 1gb GTX460, drop down to the i5, and you should be set.

This, your priorities are completely wrong for a gaming rig. You can actually get by with a $100 processor just fine these days but the jump from even a $230 GPU to a $280 GPU is pretty huge.

 

[brain_stew]

A full fat fermi has been leaked already and has been benchmarked. Average framerates were 6% better, certainly nothing to get excited about and makes you realise that nvidia were wise to cripple the original GTX480.

Link? I'd be interested in those benches.

Even if Nvidia don't have anything interesting on the horizon, my advice to hold off until you're unhappy with your current performance still stands. ATI should certainly have new hardware released in that timeframe and that could shake things up, better see how things settle if you're in no rush to upgrade.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

This should give you an idea:

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/23?vs=53

With modern games and applications finally making good use of quads its probably a half decent CPU these days but its single/dual threaded performance leaves a lot to be desired.

I'd say its like a 2ghz Core 2 Quad at a push, so about ~20% slower overall.

Don't pair it with anything above GTX 260/5770/4870 level hardware.

Wow thank you Brain_Stew! You really are a life saver. I guess I'll just tell my bro to sell the PC for a profit while I just save up.

I had a Q6600 before (that I unfortunately never overclocked) that wasn't fast enough for Toon Boom. Guess I should save up.

Also congratz on your tag!

 

[·feist·]

A full fat fermi has been leaked already and has been benchmarked. Average framerates were 6% better, certainly nothing to get excited about and makes you realise that nvidia were wise to cripple the original GTX480.

Link? I'd be interested in those benches.

Can't recall which site I spotted the 512 benches on, but a few different sources reported on it last week.

http://en.expreview.com/2010/08/09/world-exclusive-review-512sp-geforce-gtx-480/9070.html/1

http://en.expreview.com/2010/08/07/more-benchmarking-results-of-512sp-gtx-480-exposed/9018.html

http://en.expreview.com/2010/08/04/...-testing-of-geforce-gtx-480-preview/8878.html

 

[Tensai]

Link? I'd be interested in those benches.

Even if Nvidia don't have anything interesting on the horizon, my advice to hold off until you're unhappy with your current performance still stands. ATI should certainly have new hardware released in that timeframe and that could shake things up, better see how things settle if you're in no rush to upgrade.

I read it on OCN's hardware news so I can't really remember the site.

 

[Toki767]

My new PC just built today. Just awaiting my GTX 460. Running from onboard video at the moment. Running OCCT right now to stress test.
http://i35.tinypic.com/wjdzit.jpg

 

[SapientWolf]

Wow thank you Brain_Stew! You really are a life saver. I guess I'll just tell my bro to sell the PC for a profit while I just save up.

I had a Q6600 before (that I unfortunately never overclocked) that wasn't fast enough for Toon Boom. Guess I should save up.

Also congratz on your tag!

I would just negotiate the price down and put a 9800GT in there. You could potentially have a very capable lower mid-range gaming rig for well under $300.

 

[brain_stew]

That's one faptastic cooler.

 

[MyOtherBike]

Even if Nvidia don't have anything interesting on the horizon, my advice to hold off until you're unhappy with your current performance still stands. ATI should certainly have new hardware released in that timeframe and that could shake things up, better see how things settle if you're in no rush to upgrade.

I know this should be a fairly common-sense answer, but I got a lot of reassurance from your reply. Thanks. I have a history of pulling the trigger on a new gpu/cpu/whole-damn-thing way before (months and months) the launch of a game I'm anticipating - in this case, DA2 and The Witcher 2.

 

[Toki767]

I seriously didn't expect the Hyper 212+ to be so huge. I guess I didn't know how much 120mm really was. :lol

 

[Tensai]

ATI's new 6000 series will be out around Crysis time if not a bit later. They will be an amalgam of the 5000 and upcoming 7000 series and will be built on the current 40nm process so do not expect miracles.

 

[·feist·]

Its the best thread on neogaf. Theres a decent bunch of guys in this thread who just help people and ask for nothing in return. Youre right. It makes me like people


I got my Scythe Mugen 2 and holesaw in today. Time to cut up the Antec 900 this weekend and get those wires managed, get the new cooler and there, and OC my i5 750. This is exciting.

Certainly is. Apart from a few flashes here and there, this thread really doesn't have much in the way of blatant fanboyism, or personal attacks, either.

Any disadvantages to using on of THESE Molex to SATA power adapters?

Im doing wire management and my SATA power cables are all on a long ribbon so to hook up more than one drive, Id need to pull through a lot of ribbon. Using the adapter might be more beneficial.

They're very helpful. I have several HDDs and an optical, so things can get tricky. Unless you're going to get custom cables, molex adapters are very handy.

Another thing to consider is SATA extension cables like these:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...e=sata_power_extension-_-12-189-190-_-Product

Depending on your implementation, you may be able to have a cleaner install than a SATA/molex mix.

 

[Corky]

Coryky, did you actually play the demo though? In the benchmark, I was getting what you were getting with Vsync on, but when playing the game it was amazing and felt like it was 60fps, no tearing or anything.

I am SLI as well and I tested the Mafia 2 benchmark every way I can. With a SLI, no physics, I get around 98 fPS with Vsync off...I get around 65 or so with no vsync/no physics. I then dedicated one card to physx, had vysnc on, high physics and was getting around 38 or so in the benchmark. However, I decided to play the demo at this point and what seemed decent in the benchmark was amazing when playing the game.

I think I was at the point where I was letting benchmarks tell me how good the game would be when actually playing and yeah, the human eye at times cant tell between 60 and 50fps, to me though it played incredible and just let it be.

BTW..it stutters at the beginning for everyone..I heard if you do 2-3 back to back benchmarks it speeds up because when you do just one it is still loading stuff into memory when it starts.

Just my 2 cents man.

Thanks man, brainy helped me with the vsync problem it works great now, btw out of curiousty what kind of proccessor do you have to get a 65fps when running a single 460? Playing at 1080p?

Also with regards to the demo itself being very different benchmark, it really is ! Playing the game feels very smooth while the benchmark might be abit iffty.

 

[Toki767]

Does everything look fine to you guys? I'm not really sure what temperatures to expect.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Does everything look fine to you guys? I'm not really sure what temperatures to expect.

What are you using to cool your CPU? Under 40C at full load seems too good to be true.

 

[Toki767]

What are you using to cool your CPU? Under 40C at full load seems too good to be true.

The Hyper 212+. I'm not overclocking or anything so that might be why the temperature is low.

 

[Felix Lighter]

The Hyper 212+. I'm not overclocking or anything so that might be why the temperature is low.

Yeah, that's great. Lots of room for overclocking.

 

[Toki767]

I want to lower my fan speed because I think it's spinning a lot faster than it needs to be but I can't find the switch. :lol Anyone know where it is on the fans of the Antec 300?

 

[Felix Lighter]

Actually, I had intel on the brain. Those temps are still good but the AMD x6 processors run pretty cool in general.

 

[·feist·]

I want to lower my fan speed because I think it's spinning a lot faster than it needs to be but I can't find the switch. :lol Anyone know where it is on the fans of the Antec 300?

The 300's fan speed controllers are attached to the black wire dangling from the fan.

 

[SapientWolf]

The Hyper 212+. I'm not overclocking or anything so that might be why the temperature is low.

I have the same cooler. I overclocked my i5 750 to around 3.2GHz when the house was 90 degrees and the idle temps were still under 40C. Load temps were around 65C.

 

[Toki767]

The 300's fan speed controllers are attached to the black wire dangling from the fan.


http://www.overclock.net/gallery/data/500/IMG_04452.JPG

That picture was a big help. Thanks!

I have the same cooler. I overclocked my i5 750 to around 3.2GHz when the house was 90 degrees and the idle temps were still under 40C. Load temps were around 65C.

I'm still really cautious about overclocking. I know it's very much almost idiot-proofed now but I just have bad memories from before. :lol

 

[·feist·]

Cheapest Sandy Bridge to cost $78
Written by Fuad Abazovic

Comes in Q1 2011

http://www.fudzilla.com/processors/processors/cheapest-sandy-bridge-to-cost-78

A part of Intel's legacy market segment is comprised of the Pentium E5000 series and the slowest of them is E5500. This is a 2.8GHz socket 775 dual core CPU and this is exactly the place where Sandy Bridge cheapest iteration plans to surface.

Intel plans to launch one more Wolfdale-based Pentium, the E5700 in early Q4 2010 and after that, this market segment gets its Sandy Bridge CPU. The slowest and cheapest sandy bridge, again dual core should cost $79.99, which is the usual price for this market segment.

This new CPU should launch in Q2 2011, one quarter after the introduction of the first wave of Sandy Bridge CPUs that is scheduled for Q1 2011. The most likely brand for this Sandy Bridge dual-core is Pentium, but this is something that is still not for a public eye.

Sandy Bridge in this market segment has a lot of potential as this 32nm based CPU can offer much more than current Pentium E5500 Wolfdale 45nm based core.

That picture was a big help. Thanks!

Yeah, definitely turn them down. Anything above the 300's low speed setting drowns out the other builds I have near it.

 

[Stormtrooper30]

I'm still really cautious about overclocking. I know it's very much almost idiot-proofed now but I just have bad memories from before. :lol

I'm the same way man. I have an i5 750 and a GTX 460 in my Antec 300 with 5 fans and the Hyper 212+. I feel like cooling is ok in there. It idles at 24 C so I assume that's good.

Can anyone post a reliable guide to OCing my i5 and 460? Would be VERY appreciative as all this stuff is seriously going over my head.

 

[rexor0717]

Never spend 300 on a processor and <100 on a graphics card. Upgrade the graphics to a 1gb GTX460, drop down to the i5, and you should be set.

So, this is more reasonable?

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Processor 2.66 GHz
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KDY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Video Card : EVGA GeForce GTX460 Superclocked 1024 MB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWZEBY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The total for the PC + Monitor is around $1400, does that seem about right?

Can anyone post a reliable guide to OCing my i5 and 460? Would be VERY appreciative as all this stuff is seriously going over my head.

I would like to hear this too. I plan on OCing when I get everything together.

 

[SapientWolf]

That picture was a big help. Thanks!


I'm still really cautious about overclocking. I know it's very much almost idiot-proofed now but I just have bad memories from before. :lol

Intel's "Turbo Boost" feature is basically automatic overclocking and it's on by default. Running an i5 under 3GHz is practically underclocking it.

 

[·feist·]

Eight Core Sandy Bridge Pictures / Screenshots leaked
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=4500387#post4500387

XtremeSystems Forums member JCornell has posted several pictures of Intel's 8-core Sandy Bridge Engineering Sample, including screenshots of CPU-Z and Everest on Windows 7. Intel's mainstream Sandy Bridge CPUs - dual and quad core - will fit into LGA 1155. However, a different platform will be used for the enthusiast 6/8 core Sandy Bridge, around LGA 2011. The pictures reveal a distance between mounting holes identical to LGA 1366, hence assuring compatibility with Core i7 900 series heatsinks.

Other screenshots are based around CPU-Z, Everest and Task Manager. We can see an amazing 16 threads on the task manager, with HT enabled on 8 cores. L2 cache remains are 256 KB per core, with a total shared L3 cache of 20 MB. This is an increment from the Nehalem generation, which featured a L3/core ratio of 2MB per core. The 8 core Sandy Bridge features 2.5 MB per core. The AVX instruction set is listed in CPU-Z and Everest as well.

Unfortunately, JC has taken measures to hide the exact clock speed, though the FSB is running at 100 MHz.

We are still a long way away from release of LGA 2011 Sandy Bridge CPUs. While the LGA 1155 dual/quad core Sandy Bridge are set to release in January 2011, the enthusiast 6/8 core are scheduled for a vague timeline of H2 2011 - the same as AMD's Bulldozer.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

The 300's fan speed controllers are attached to the black wire dangling from the fan.

I love the fact that 300 takes 120mm fan and not those shit small 80mm or god forbids 60mm fans, and I love the fact that it has so many fan slots. I have 5 fans installed, all at low speed. PC is cool and quiet!

 

[-COOLIO-]

@ sandy bridge stuff.

i didnt even know that an 8 core was confirmed

 

[-COOLIO-]

So, this is more reasonable?

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Processor 2.66 GHz
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KDY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Video Card : EVGA GeForce GTX460 Superclocked 1024 MB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWZEBY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The total for the PC + Monitor is around $1400, does that seem about right?



I would like to hear this too. I plan on OCing when I get everything together.

i5 750 and gtx 460 1gb seem to be the best bang for the buck gaming cpu/gpu parts in the $1000 pc range right now.

maybe the best bang for the buck period?

 

[brain_stew]

16 threads.............Yummy!

 

[brain_stew]

i5 750 and gtx 460 1gb seem to be the best bang for the buck gaming cpu/gpu parts in the $1000 pc range right now.

maybe the best bang for the buck period?

I'm still quite partial to the 1055T. That Intel are about to dump socket 1156 within 6 months makes it hard to recommend when we know Bulldozer should work on most mainstream AM3 boards.

 

[-COOLIO-]

I'm still quite partial to the 1055T. That Intel are about to dump socket 1156 within 6 months makes it hard to recommend when we know Bulldozer should work on most mainstream AM3 boards.

hmmm quick question, due to your earlier recommendation im not going to bother with sli anymore, this means that i no longer need to go for intel, so for gaming is the 1055 good enough? i kept hearing the 750 was significantly better for a gaming pc. is that only for cpu heavy games like starcraft 2?

 

[brain_stew]

hmmm quick question, due to your earlier recommendation im not going to bother with sli anymore, this means that i no longer need to go for intel, so for gaming is the 1055 good enough? i kept hearing the 750 was significantly better for a gaming pc. is that only for cpu heavy games like starcraft 2?

You'll get better frames is Scarcraft 2, yes but most games will still be GPU bound. The 1055T is still quite a hefty CPU and those two extra cores should mean it fares well as time goes by.

Basically, you're trading off better gaming performance now, for potentially better gaming performance later as well as better upgrade options. It depends where your priorities lie. If you're a big OCer then you're probably best off going the Intel route, as nothing from AMD is going to touch core i5/i7 chip clocked @4ghz+

There are actually some games that already make use of 6 cores fwiw. The Lost Planet 2 benchmark is a perfect example:

Although the i5-760 still manages to just about beat it out even in that test so maybe it isn't such a great buy. The choice is yours.

 

[Minsc]

hmmm quick question, due to your earlier recommendation im not going to bother with sli anymore, this means that i no longer need to go for intel, so for gaming is the 1055 good enough? i kept hearing the 750 was significantly better for a gaming pc. is that only for cpu heavy games like starcraft 2?

This tool is useful for comparing CPUs, GPUs & HDDs.

Intel CPUs + a hefty overclock is a whole different ballpark than AMD's CPUs. If you're going for high end parts like a GTX 480, you probably want the i5/i7 imo. There are times when they perform ~75% faster than the X6, like in the FarCry 2 benchmark linked above (and they do a good ~30% in DA:O, DoW2, & WoW). Also I believe Mafia 2 heavily favors them brain_stew mentioned before, and Valve games prefer them also, there's very few games an i5 750 overclocked will bottleneck right now. Next year you could be wishing you bought AMD because you need a new motherboard. That's why people don't like Intel.

 

[brain_stew]

This tool is useful for comparing CPUs, GPUs & HDDs.

My only issue is that Anand's gaming benchmark suite is pretty damn outdated. It doesn't really reflect the heavily multi threaded nature of most recent releases and thus gives a poor indication of the benefits of extra cores/threads.

 

[-COOLIO-]

You'll get better frames is Scarcraft 2, yes but most games will still be GPU bound. The 1055T is still quite a hefty CPU and those two extra cores should mean it fares well as time goes by.

Basically, you're trading off better gaming performance now, for potentially better gaming performance later as well as better upgrade options. It depends where your priorities lie. If you're a big OCer then you're probably best off going the Intel route, as nothing from AMD is going to touch core i5/i7 chip clocked @4ghz+

There are actually some games that already make use of 6 cores fwiw. The Lost Planet 2 benchmark is a perfect example:

Although the i5-760 still manages to just about beat it out even in that test so maybe it isn't such a great buy. The choice is yours.

if crysis 2 can utilize 8 cores then i think im down for 6.

so ill probably get the 1055 then, or which ever has the better combos going for it come pay day.

ive also never overclocked a day in my life so i dont think i could trust myself to oc an i5 to it's highest potential.

thanks again!

 

[Minsc]

My only issue is that Anand's gaming benchmark suite is pretty damn outdated. It doesn't really reflect the heavily multi threaded nature of most recent releases and thus gives a poor indication of the benefits of extra cores/threads.

Yea, it seriously needs like 10 more modern games, let's hope they update it, they're bound to when Crysis 2 comes out... should be interesting to see beta benches from that game. Will really decide where to go w/ CPUs if i5s are still performing at or better than X6s, though I'm not expecting it.

 

[brain_stew]

if crysis 2 can utilize 8 cores then i think im down for 6.

so ill probably get the 1055 then, or which ever has the better combos going for it come pay day.

ive also never overclocked a day in my life so i dont think i could trust myself to oc an i5 to it's highest potential.

thanks again!

There's basically no right or wrong answer here really, it just depends on your priorities and what you want this rig for and how long you expect it to last. If you find upgrading the motherboard a pain in the ass then a i5-750 may not be ideal, but if you like OCing and want to get the absolute best framerate out of Scarcraft 2 and Dolphon/PCSX2 then the Intel chip is probably your best option.

 

[Minsc]

There's basically no right or wrong answer here really, it just depends on your priorities and what you want this rig for and how long you expect it to last. If you find upgrading the motherboard a pain in the ass then a i5-750 may not be ideal, but if you like OCing and want to get the absolute best framerate out of Scarcraft 2 and Dolphon/PCSX2 then the Intel chip is probably your best option.

It almost reminds of of nVidia/ATi (how games tend to just perform better on nVidia's cards even though ATI's may outclass it spec-wise). Stuff like WoW performing 50% better on the i5 750 vs the X6 or DoW performing 25% better on the i5 or DA:O performing 40% better on the i5. The difference between SC2 and those games, is they run at over 60fps even with a 50% cut on the X6, while SC2 is happy to chug along at like 30fps at times, using two cores (on the i5), so the boost actually matters. Buying a CPU for that game is :lol, but at least the CPU it favors shows tangible improvements in many other titles too.

 

[Hazaro]

Been away, glad to see thread is still kicking.

Always fun to follow the new hardware stuff as well. Hopefully we can find out how much that 100Mhz link impedes overclocking.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

I'm thinking of picking up this GPU for my Birthday build. Doing some research I came to the conclusion that the 4870 is slightly better than the 5770.

Now I'm not planning on too much high-end gaming with this, but I would like to be able to play Arkham Asylum 2 and The Witcher 2 with this (with the 1055t CPU). Now Obviously the former game can't be answered as we haven't seen any screens for it yet, but looking at The Witcher's 2 impressions will this GPU be able to run the game in a satisfactory fashion? Like high textures, 720p, at 45 frames per second?

hmmm quick question, due to your earlier recommendation im not going to bother with sli anymore, this means that i no longer need to go for intel, so for gaming is the 1055 good enough? i kept hearing the 750 was significantly better for a gaming pc. is that only for cpu heavy games like starcraft 2?

Having a six-core CPU is overkill for 99% of games out there. Hell, having a quad-core CPU is even overkill for most games if you aren't playing those of the very high end. Unless you're doing media work like intense Photoshopping, animation, or modeling, there really isn't a reason for you to get a six core CPU right now.

@ sandy bridge stuff.

i didnt even know that an 8 core was confirmed

8 core CPU's in laptops aren't all that far away believe it or not. Such is the tech world. I've also heard (so don't take my word on it) that the Ivy Bridge laptop CPU's will be so cool and power efficient that they won't need a fan.

There's basically no right or wrong answer here really, it just depends on your priorities and what you want this rig for and how long you expect it to last. If you find upgrading the motherboard a pain in the ass then a i5-750 may not be ideal, but if you like OCing and want to get the absolute best framerate out of Scarcraft 2 and Dolphon/PCSX2 then the Intel chip is probably your best option.

To be fair, if he buys the i5-750, when he upgrades he'll have to buy both a new CPU AND a new motherboard. So significantly more $$$$ as the end result.

 

[Hazaro]

I'm thinking of picking up this GPU for my Birthday build. Doing some research I came to the conclusion that the 4870 is slightly better than the 5770.

Now I'm not planning on too much high-end gaming with this, but I would like to be able to play Arkham Asylum 2 and The Witcher 2 with this (with the 1055t CPU). Now Obviously the former game can't be answered as we haven't seen any screens for it yet, but looking at The Witcher's 2 impressions will this GPU be able to run the game in a satisfactory fashion? Like high textures, 720p, at 45 frames per second?

I leave for 5 days and newegg goes to shit. Figures.

At $100 it's a good value, are the benefits of a 5770 (lower power, heat) worth $30 more to you?
720p should be no problem.

 

[Flying_Phoenix]

I leave for 5 days and newegg goes to shit. Figures.

At $100 it's a good value, are the benefits of a 5770 (lower power, heat) worth $30 more to you?

As long as this and the Hexacore AMD 1055t can work on a 550W powersupply. Which I assume they should be fine?

720p should be no problem.

Great.The GTX 460 1GB gives a hell of a boost but just isn't worth the extra $100 to me.

 

[alanias]

So, this is more reasonable?

CPU: Intel Core i5 750 Processor 2.66 GHz
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002KQ5KDY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Video Card : EVGA GeForce GTX460 Superclocked 1024 MB
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003VWZEBY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The total for the PC + Monitor is around $1400, does that seem about right?



I would like to hear this too. I plan on OCing when I get everything together.

Much better config. Try to use newegg if you can, you can save quite a bit on combos etc... Also recommend the Gigabyte brand 460 as I have heard bad things about the EVGA's noisy fan. I spent ~1200 on the same computer + monitor so there may be some more savings yet depending on your other hardware choices. Couldn't be happier.

 

[rexor0717]

Much better config. Try to use newegg if you can, you can save quite a bit on combos etc... Also recommend the Gigabyte brand 460 as I have heard bad things about the EVGA's noisy fan. I spent ~1200 on the same computer + monitor so there may be some more savings yet depending on your other hardware choices. Couldn't be happier.

Thanks for the help!

Also, Is a mid-sized case normally big enough to fit everything?