PjotrStroganov
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Omiee said:
WTF dude http://tweakers.net/reviews/1770/zes-processorkoelers-op-de-pijnbank.html
:lol
It might not be as good as the other two but but I'd buy the Scythe Mugen 2 anytime because of its price/performance.
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WTF dude http://tweakers.net/reviews/1770/zes-processorkoelers-op-de-pijnbank.html
:lol
It might not be as good as the other two but but I'd buy the Scythe Mugen 2 anytime because of its price/performance.
toastyToast
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Niblet said:
You can play the new hardware waiting game forever. I would suggest either waiting for the 6000 Radeons at the end of the year or the likely refresh of the GTX 400 series i.e 475, 485.
If you think you can wait until next year then go right on ahead. Patience is usually rewarded.
brain_stew
Member
Niblet said:
Always buy the whole system at once. Don't buy parts once at a time.
brain_stew
Member
Corky said:
I think you're fine for now. See where the market is when an upgrade is more urgent. I'm not a big fan of SLI as an upgrade path personally.
Next "upgrade" would be to get a nice HS/F and OC that CPU. Try and get 3.6-3.8ghz.
TouchMyBox
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-COOLIO- said:
that shit then wrapped in a zigzag 4 times when you turned the corner. i was in line for 5 hours.
i saved about $100 though, which comes out to $20/hr so i guess that's alright
Hey man, I waited 2 and a half hours later in the afternoon and only bought a 16GB USB stick for $20 :lol
unrenowned
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Assembled my new computer over the weekend.
It's a Core i7-930 using a Noctua NH-D14 cooler and a single GTX 460 in a Fractal Design Define R3 case. I have two front intake and one rear exhaust fans on the fan controller at lowest setting so it's not the best airflow.
Which program is the best for CPU stability tests? Been using IntelBurnTest configured for 5 runs at maximum. Overclocked to 4GHz with HT enabled and vcore of 1.23v the max core temp was 78C. Is that ok for my case airflow and the NH-D14 with adapter on the 12cm fan, or should i try reseating it?
With one case side open the temps were down to 68C.
Thinking about installing some top fans as well if it'd help, perhaps one intake fan pushing some cool air down into the NH-D14 front fan?
It's a Core i7-930 using a Noctua NH-D14 cooler and a single GTX 460 in a Fractal Design Define R3 case. I have two front intake and one rear exhaust fans on the fan controller at lowest setting so it's not the best airflow.
Which program is the best for CPU stability tests? Been using IntelBurnTest configured for 5 runs at maximum. Overclocked to 4GHz with HT enabled and vcore of 1.23v the max core temp was 78C. Is that ok for my case airflow and the NH-D14 with adapter on the 12cm fan, or should i try reseating it?
With one case side open the temps were down to 68C.
Thinking about installing some top fans as well if it'd help, perhaps one intake fan pushing some cool air down into the NH-D14 front fan?
MomoPufflet
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I have a core i5 750 I'm looking to overclock to 3.4Ghz(?ish or more) and need a new heatsink. I want something that's easy to install and preferably wont require me to remove the motherboard (unavoidable?). Anything that fits my needs? Something that isn't super gigantic would be a nice as well.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
What do you guys think of this case? : Define R3: http://www.fractal-design.com/?view=product&category=2&prod=48
It's from a young swedish company, and it's a mid tower case. I think it's beautiful, but I am worried that big graphics card won't fit! But this is the only non-Apple case I have seen that I think has a slick industrialistic design without ugly logos(silverstone, thermeltake, and so on...), LEDs everywhere, windows(whyyy???).
I'm looking for a case that will look more like a piece of sculptured art.
The Silverstone Fortress FT02 also looks like fun.. I just hate that silverstone logo so much. Who gives a fuck right? I know - But I can't help it!
It's from a young swedish company, and it's a mid tower case. I think it's beautiful, but I am worried that big graphics card won't fit! But this is the only non-Apple case I have seen that I think has a slick industrialistic design without ugly logos(silverstone, thermeltake, and so on...), LEDs everywhere, windows(whyyy???).
I'm looking for a case that will look more like a piece of sculptured art.
The Silverstone Fortress FT02 also looks like fun.. I just hate that silverstone logo so much. Who gives a fuck right? I know - But I can't help it!
Looking to build a gaming PC for around £800. Will be gaming at 1080p.
Already decided on a Gigabyte 460 1gb, Corsair 750w PSU, 500gb spinpoint F3 and the Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case.
Brain_stew do you still recommend the Phenom II 1055T? Im looking at this bundle from overclockers. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-038-OB&groupid=43&catid=339&subcat=
Its in the deal of the week until the 1st of september and quickly pricing the components separately is around the same price but the bundle comes with the 95w 1055T and is pre overclocked. I remember reading your comment on buying as many cores as you can afford so should i jump on the 1055T deal?
Already decided on a Gigabyte 460 1gb, Corsair 750w PSU, 500gb spinpoint F3 and the Coolermaster CM-690 II Advanced Dominator Case.
Brain_stew do you still recommend the Phenom II 1055T? Im looking at this bundle from overclockers. http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=BU-038-OB&groupid=43&catid=339&subcat=
Its in the deal of the week until the 1st of september and quickly pricing the components separately is around the same price but the bundle comes with the 95w 1055T and is pre overclocked. I remember reading your comment on buying as many cores as you can afford so should i jump on the 1055T deal?
With a decent motherboard, on-board audio these days generally performs well enough in movies and games that, for most people, a sound card becomes an unnecessary expense. Unless you're an audiophile or doing professional work, at which point, you'd likely want a higher end card anyway.Dosia said:
HAF XSpookie said:CM 690 I think.ElyrionX said:Which case is that? CM HAF?BigBlackGamer said:5870 back in case. everything works good. might try some overclocking later tonight.
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
MomoPufflet
Member
Weenerz said:
Thanks, just watched an installation video. It seems easy enough and I like the fact that it's not a giant piece of metal hanging off the motherboard. How high can you get a core i5 750 with one of these installed?
Alright and thanks. It sounds like my friend wont need a sound card as he will be using a pair of $80 speakers for gaming. Next question...·feist· said:With a decent motherboard, on-board audio these days generally performs well enough in movies and games that, for most people, a sound card becomes an unnecessary expense. Unless you're an audiophile or doing professional work, at which point, you'd likely want a higher end card anyway.
HAF X
http://www.coolermaster.com/product.php?product_id=6653
-ASUS P7P55D-E LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard ($149.99)
Is that considered a decent mobo? He wants me to order the hardware by the end of the day but I still dont feel 100% confident in the parts I selected. Thanks again.
unrenowned
Member
The R3 has got the slick looks going for it, but other than that not so much positive imo. It's rather small meaning less airflow and a bitch to work in. Also cable management isn't optimal since there's very little room behind the motherboard plate for cables. I've heard many comments about the sound-dampening material not sticking to the case, which also happened to me. On one of the sides it had completely loosened. I tried to stick it back but that didn't work, right now waiting for a response on how to handle that. The included fans are pretty much useless, sure they're quiet but that's just because they don't move any air.Vigilant Walrus said:
The FT02 has much more room, easier to work in and also gives better cable management possibilities as well as much better airflow. In my mind a much better case.
EDIT: Corky, the rails can fluctuate considerably under different levels of load making the system unstable. BIOS readings of PSU rails are under very low load so they don't tell the whole picture.
Corky said:Do my numbers tell you anything that might indicate that my crashes are because of potential PSU-issues? ( The picture is 1 month old, and my psu is RMA'd since, I'll hear back from the store soon )
No, but that could very well be because in the BIOS your system is almost completely idle. And your PSU could give perfect voltages idle but fluctuate a lot when it's under heavy load, which could cause problems.
And in regards to my previous post, if your PSU gives comparable voltages under load and idle it could just be a case of a badly calibrated 5v line.
dr3upmushroom
Banned
What's the new name for that cooler? I'd like to get it for the build I'm getting in a few days but everyone still recommends it as the Scythe Mugen, I think it has a totally different name now.PjotrStroganov said:
I have a question about mounting PSUs inside cases. I am building my PC right now and I have a Cooler Master storm scout as my case and a Seasonic M12D PSU. The storm requires the PSU to be mounted at the bottom of the case, with the way the Seasonics Fan is positioned (On the bottom of the PSU blowing air into the case, not the back like other PSUs which blow air out of the case directly), this means that the air will be blowing into the bottom of the case with no where to go. Am I supposed to mount the PSU upside down so it's blowing the air towards my MOBO instead? I'm so confused right now.
PSU fans are intakes not outputs, on bottom mounted cases you can mount it facing up or down depending on the clearance between the bottom of the PSU and the case, if it is large enough you can mount it fan facing down, if not mount if fan facing up so it draws air away from your GPU.bardia said:
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The Everyman
So this is my build. It's pretty much the Haz recommended build for the most part. The bolded parts are what I've already bought:
Case: Antec Sonata III with an Antec Earthwatts 500w PSU - $70
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB - $200
Hard drive: Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB - $88
CPU: Phenom II x4 955 BE - $160
RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit -$95
Now here's where I'm undecided
MOBO:
Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 Socket AM3 $156
Or
GA-870A-UD3 $110
Specwise, the motherboards seem pretty similar but the M4A is $46 more. Also, it seems that neither board supports DDR3 1600 memory which is weird since the memory that Haz recommended is 1600 mhz.
I switched to an AMD CPU for the AM3 socket so I don't mind spending a good chunk on the board if the features are worth it since I'm hoping to upgrade my processor at least once in the distant future and keep the same board for a while.
So can anyone let me know what the big feature differences are between the motherboards is and if Im getting the right RAM?
Thanks a ton
edit: oh yeah, and i was also wondering if you need a case with usb 3.0 ports to utilize usb 3.0 on the board?
Case: Antec Sonata III with an Antec Earthwatts 500w PSU - $70
GPU: Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB - $200
Hard drive: Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB - $88
CPU: Phenom II x4 955 BE - $160
RAM: G.SKILL F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL Ripjaws PC3-12800 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit -$95
Now here's where I'm undecided
MOBO:
Asus M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 Socket AM3 $156
Or
GA-870A-UD3 $110
Specwise, the motherboards seem pretty similar but the M4A is $46 more. Also, it seems that neither board supports DDR3 1600 memory which is weird since the memory that Haz recommended is 1600 mhz.
I switched to an AMD CPU for the AM3 socket so I don't mind spending a good chunk on the board if the features are worth it since I'm hoping to upgrade my processor at least once in the distant future and keep the same board for a while.
So can anyone let me know what the big feature differences are between the motherboards is and if Im getting the right RAM?
Thanks a ton
edit: oh yeah, and i was also wondering if you need a case with usb 3.0 ports to utilize usb 3.0 on the board?
Ok - I'm about to pull the plug on the £759 - http://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/pcs-gaming.asp?idcategory=94 - I'm losing the OS and getting it for £39 on a student deal, I've upgraded the PSU to the OCZ unit, my friend is paying for delivery because, apparently, I shouldn't have to wait 2 weeks for a PC and my other friend has paypal'd me £20. Should I save the 20 quid to knock off that money on the price, or get a CPU cooler for £19.99?
Also - shall I buy windows 7 off the website and have them install it for me? The MS student deal isn't particularly clear about what you're getting - though 69 quid seems a LOT
Also - shall I buy windows 7 off the website and have them install it for me? The MS student deal isn't particularly clear about what you're getting - though 69 quid seems a LOT
MisterNoisy
Member
abq said:
O wow. I'm really digging the white accessories. Nice case and cabling!
ThanksVision
Member
So, I'm not looking to build my own machine, but I want to get a laptop and this is the best place to ask. I really do not know too much about computers, never been a big PC gamer.
I was wondering what you all thought of this:
Asus UL80Vt laptop
Intel® Core i3 Processor
14" Display
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB Hard Drive
1.3 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 310M with Optimus Technology (1GB Video Memory)
~$750
I'm not looking for anything to run Crysis. I just want to play WoW and Starcraft II.
This will do the job?!
Thanks.
EDIT: If you guys know of anything better around this price, feel free to let me know
I was wondering what you all thought of this:
Asus UL80Vt laptop
Intel® Core i3 Processor
14" Display
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB Hard Drive
1.3 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 310M with Optimus Technology (1GB Video Memory)
~$750
I'm not looking for anything to run Crysis. I just want to play WoW and Starcraft II.
This will do the job?!
Thanks.
EDIT: If you guys know of anything better around this price, feel free to let me know
unrenowned
Member
Yeah it works for smaller cables but not so well for thicker PSU cables. For instance the sleeved motherboard power cables on my PSU are rather thick, and thanks to the sleeving they're not very flexible so I had a hard time routing them behind the motherboard plate and to the connectors on the motherboard.abq said:
I like how it's all the same color, even on the inside though, and that all the holes are folded so no sharp edges.
Overall I still think the FT02 is a better case though.
PjotrStroganov
Member
abq said:
Does the R2 have nexus fans?
unrenowned
Member
I think they're pretty much the same but with lower rpm.PjotrStroganov said:
BigBlackGamer
Member
ElyrionX said:
yea HAF X
bardia said:
Tensai said:
Why would you do that?bardia said:
Your case has a filtered opening at the bottom just so you have the option of mounting it with the fan facing down.
Even if the space between the bottom of the case and PSU is minuscule, you never want your PSU draw air away from the GPU. If the GPU is an EE design, you don't want to possibly deprive it of any cool air. If the GPU is an internal exhaust design, you certainly don't want your PSU to pull hot air from it either. Obviously hot air rises, so you want your PSU drawing cool air from beneath the case with it's own dedicated intake. If you're on carpet, or feel that you need more clearance beneath the PC, just use a riser of some sort or change/extend the case's feet.
This is one of the reasons that many of us won't buy a case with an exposed, top-mount PSU lay out. Since your PSU has an intake fan instead of an exhaust fan, you really should make use of one of your case's best features.
MisterNoisy
Member
unrenowned said:
One thing I'd recommend for that sort of situation are the pre-individually sleeved cable extensions that NZXT makes:
24-pin ATX
8-pin CPU power
They're cheap and give a 'custom' look, while also making the inflexibility of that 24-cable bundle much easier to deal with.
Haint
Member
Dosia said:
That's what I've been using for the past month or so. It seems to work fine so far, booted first time no issues, and was easy to OC. You can't use SATA 6 and USB 3 concurrently, one at a time only. There is a splash page option, bios setting, and physical switch on the mobo to change it. Also, using either one drops your PCIE lane down to 8x. You can turn both off to achieve 16x. The recent SLI testing a page or two backs suggests lane width doesn't matter, I'd guess that still holds true for a single card, but not sure. It also only supports 8x/8x Crossfire, not SLI AFAIK.
Introdacqua
Neo Member
AvidNobody said:So, I'm not looking to build my own machine, but I want to get a laptop and this is the best place to ask. I really do not know too much about computers, never been a big PC gamer.
I was wondering what you all thought of this:
Asus UL80Vt laptop
Intel® Core i3 Processor
14" Display
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB Hard Drive
1.3 GHz
NVIDIA GeForce 310M with Optimus Technology (1GB Video Memory)
~$750
I'm not looking for anything to run Crysis. I just want to play WoW and Starcraft II.
This will do the job?!
Thanks.
EDIT: If you guys know of anything better around this price, feel free to let me know
I bought the ASUS UL30Vt-A1, which has a slower CPU but nearly identical GPU and I've played l4d2 and SC2 on medium-low native res without any problems.