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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition
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Yeah, I think I'm going to buy two new 120mm fans and put one on each side of the heat sink for my 212 plus. That should get the air moving around in there.
Right now I just have the stock Cooler Master fan on the 212 plus and I have the stock Antec TriCool in the back of the case, I have it set to high right now but it's really loud. I'm shopping around for some quiet fans that will move enough air for me.
I figure with two fans on that CPU cooler though feeding right into that 120mm out the back I should have quite the nice airflow.
Right now I just have the stock Cooler Master fan on the 212 plus and I have the stock Antec TriCool in the back of the case, I have it set to high right now but it's really loud. I'm shopping around for some quiet fans that will move enough air for me.
I figure with two fans on that CPU cooler though feeding right into that 120mm out the back I should have quite the nice airflow.
That's looking pretty chilly there...
And I've gotten my first reminder of the part of PC gaming that sucks! Crysis at first wouldn't launch on Win 7 64 bit, so I ran it in compat. mode and it worked, but it runs in a window and if I try to make it full screen or detect optimal settings the game crashes.
And I've gotten my first reminder of the part of PC gaming that sucks! Crysis at first wouldn't launch on Win 7 64 bit, so I ran it in compat. mode and it worked, but it runs in a window and if I try to make it full screen or detect optimal settings the game crashes.
Have they announced a release date for the 1GB EVGA 460? On that note, can someone recommend a good modular psu for powering two 460s?
I had to move and ended up missing out on the previous mobo deal I posted, so it looks like I'm going to have to go with this one. Can someone help me pick out the ram once again?
Thanks guys.
So far:
MB - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | $199.99
CPU - Intel i7-930 | $199.99
CPU Cooler - ? | ?
GPU - EVGA GTX 460 1GB | ?
RAM - ? | ?
SSD - ? | ?
CD - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS | $18.99
Case - Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced | $89.99
PSU - ? | ?
Monitor - ? | ?
Total (so far) | $508.96
I had to move and ended up missing out on the previous mobo deal I posted, so it looks like I'm going to have to go with this one. Can someone help me pick out the ram once again?
Thanks guys.
So far:
MB - Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R | $199.99
CPU - Intel i7-930 | $199.99
CPU Cooler - ? | ?
GPU - EVGA GTX 460 1GB | ?
RAM - ? | ?
SSD - ? | ?
CD - ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS | $18.99
Case - Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced | $89.99
PSU - ? | ?
Monitor - ? | ?
Total (so far) | $508.96
Felix Lighter
Member
Hey guys! I got all my parts today, and I'm in the process of putting it together right now. Unfortunately, it looks like I don't have the cable to connect my hard drive to my mother board:
Hard Drive
Motherboard
Was I required to purchase an additional cable here? Or did I just somehow misplace the cable? Thanks guys for all your help.
Hard Drive
Motherboard
Was I required to purchase an additional cable here? Or did I just somehow misplace the cable? Thanks guys for all your help.
Metalic Sand
who is Emo-Beas?
Was wondering if this voltage looks right? ive always wondered if it was.
Ive had it clocked at 3.2 for probly a year 1/2.
Ive had it clocked at 3.2 for probly a year 1/2.
Felix Lighter
Member
lordy88 said:
Both
Fredescu said:
You might want to just do it yourself. Case modding is a lot of fun.
Here's a guide on painting.
http://case-mods.linear1.org/case-mod-101-how-to-paint-your-computer-case-part-1/
http://case-mods.linear1.org/case-mod-101-how-to-paint-your-computer-case-part-2/
BrassMonkey1010
Member
Question. I am in the middle of my first build.
Is it okay for my motherboard to have one extra hole in it then hole in the case? There just isn't a hole in the case where the last hole in the motherboard is. Is this this safe?
Is it okay for my motherboard to have one extra hole in it then hole in the case? There just isn't a hole in the case where the last hole in the motherboard is. Is this this safe?
My Hyper 212+ has a variable speed CPU fan on it. I'd like to replace it with a quieter fan. I recently got 2 Noctua 120mm and 1 Noctua 140mm fans, but they aren't CPU fans. So, a few questions..
1. Can I use one of those on the hyper 212+?
2. If not, does Noctua make a standalone CPU fan I can buy? (I couldn't find one).
1. Can I use one of those on the hyper 212+?
2. If not, does Noctua make a standalone CPU fan I can buy? (I couldn't find one).
Not sure why you wouldn't be able to use the Noctua fans for your cooler. How are you making the distinction between CPU and non-CPU fans? I have four Noctuas in my case, including two (soon to be three) on my heatsink.fugimax said:
I'm assuming your 120mm fans are this model and your 140mm is this model. For a Hyper 212, you should be fine with any 120mm fan.
Your Noctua fans will function identically if they're attached to the CPU fan header. You might be able to adjust the fan speed in your BIOS, as well. I know Noctua fans typically come with low-noise adapters if you're willing to sacrifice a little performance for a quieter set up.fugimax said:
You really should have 4GB of RAM. Otherwise looks good. You might want to replace the 212+ fan with a medium speed Yate Loon.OatmealMu said:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa.html
I'm very skeptical of that temp unless its 2C in your room.Gritesh said:
What are you using to load? What is your vCore? Use realtemp AND coretemp to check cpu temperature.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16836111601chixdiggit said:
You can also find them on eBay and elsewhere by searching for "Logitech USB (mic / skype) or the model: AK5370. Can find refurb on eBay for $13 or so.
Note that it is a USB mic so if you plan on streaming games with audio via Livestream or what have you, you'll need to mux streams together. Alternatively if you just want mic or game music you are fine. But not both.
Two medium fans should do the job fine. Or you can have a nice 120x38mm in front and the second fan won't help that much. I fooled around a bit with my TRUE and airflow was not that much of a big deal.Amneisac said:
http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa.html
What are you using to load? Use realtemp AND coretemp to check cpu temperature.darthbob said:
A good idle would be 22-30C, a good load for stock? As long as its under 65C don't worry about it. Programs are in the OP.
As long as the motherboard is stable you are fine. Normally there are 6 or 7 holes on an ATX mobo. Make sure you are screwing the motherboard into the brass standoffs and not the case itself.BrassMonkey1010 said:
Sweet. Just swapped out the cooler master fan for the noctua. So. Much. Quieter.Crunched said:
No joke, after replacing the two antec case fans (120mm, 140mm) and the hyper 212+ fan, this thing is almost silent. All for about $50.
(Regarding temps, they seem to be pretty much the same. 36C main core idle, 30C cores 1/2/3. Considering it's about 28C in this room right now ... not bad.)
Anyone have an opinion on whether or not I should block out this side vent on the antec three hundred? It currently isn't housing a fan.
I'm going to Microcenter with a friend to pick up some parts to build a PC this week. I'm a bit flexible with the budget so I'm open to suggestions that come out to a bit more than what's listed below.
Budget: ~$1000 (not including monitor) US
Main Use: Gaming, software development, and some video editing
Monitor Resolution: 1920 X 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: StarCraft 2, Portal 2, Diablo 3, FFXIV
The i7-930 at $200 is really tempting but I don't know if/how the differences will benefit me. What would offer me better upgrade options in the future? Is there a particular brand I should go with in regards to video cards? It looks like the GTX 460 is the card to get right now for my budget but I don't know what to look for when it comes to the different card manufacturers.
Budget: ~$1000 (not including monitor) US
Main Use: Gaming, software development, and some video editing
Monitor Resolution: 1920 X 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: StarCraft 2, Portal 2, Diablo 3, FFXIV
The i7-930 at $200 is really tempting but I don't know if/how the differences will benefit me. What would offer me better upgrade options in the future? Is there a particular brand I should go with in regards to video cards? It looks like the GTX 460 is the card to get right now for my budget but I don't know what to look for when it comes to the different card manufacturers.
Gribbix said:
I have the same interest in games. I recently built...
i7 860, XFX 5850, 4GB Crucial, Gigabyte UD4P, 1TB HD
It was under 1k, and I'm running a 30" monitor at 2560x1600 or whatever. I can seem to run SC2 at Ultra settings without issue. I imagine you'd have the same luck at that lower res. That said, with the 460 just coming out, ATI might be dropping the 5850 price.
If you do get a 460, get the 1GB version, not the 768.
http://i25.tinypic.com/33cafl2.jpgGribbix said:
Something similar to that. Alternative cooler is the Hyper 212+.
Swap the board for a discounted 1366 board at MicroCenter. (With USB3/SATA6Gbps)
Alternatively you could go with a 1055T system for future upgrade ability. However in the now and, I think, for a couple years the i7 will give the AM3 platform a run for its money in value. Right now the i7 would be faster than the 1055 in the things you want to do. Only the upgrade in a year abouts could offer something better.
If I was in your situation I'd probably stick with the i7.
Nab a GTX460 1GB while you can. I'd personally jump at the MSI version on newegg right now if I didn't have to shell out tax. (And I have a GTX260 already).
So I was reading on Overclockers.net that Bulldozer will be a nine core processor. 8 Cores at 64 bit, and the 9th will be 128 bit.
For those of you who don't know, Bulldozer is the codename for the new AMD processors that are going to be launching that WILL support AM3 socket.
More information: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/768771-bulldozer-inside-information-15.html
For those of you who don't know, Bulldozer is the codename for the new AMD processors that are going to be launching that WILL support AM3 socket.
More information: http://www.overclock.net/amd-cpus/768771-bulldozer-inside-information-15.html
A quick thanks to everyone that helped with my PC build. Here it is...
I call it the Boner Enrichment Center or BEC for short.
We are running pretty good right now, TF2 runs pretty great, Torchlight is awesome. I am only have one problem with Left4Dead (Event ID: 41, Task Category: 63 failure causing the machine to reboot during play) but that is for another thread.
Thanks again.
I call it the Boner Enrichment Center or BEC for short.
We are running pretty good right now, TF2 runs pretty great, Torchlight is awesome. I am only have one problem with Left4Dead (Event ID: 41, Task Category: 63 failure causing the machine to reboot during play) but that is for another thread.
Thanks again.
So my cheap ass PSU just died a day after installing my 5870, my own fault I know T_T
Need GAFs recommendation on a new one (I read a lot of Corsair suggestions but think at a the high wattage I need it'll be expensive?). Here's what I need running off it:
- x 2 DVD drive
- Wireless LAN card
- Floppy and card reader drives
- x 4 SATA2 HDDS
- x1 5870 GPU
- EX58-UD5 motherboard with i7 920 processor
- 6 gig DDR3
+ overclocks
Any suggestions?
edit: the psu that died on me was 600w
Need GAFs recommendation on a new one (I read a lot of Corsair suggestions but think at a the high wattage I need it'll be expensive?). Here's what I need running off it:
- x 2 DVD drive
- Wireless LAN card
- Floppy and card reader drives
- x 4 SATA2 HDDS
- x1 5870 GPU
- EX58-UD5 motherboard with i7 920 processor
- 6 gig DDR3
+ overclocks
Any suggestions?
edit: the psu that died on me was 600w
No idea if this is a good monitor or a good price but:
ASUS VW266H 25.5-Inch Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black
$304.49 & eligible for free shipping with Amazon Prime
You Save: $5.50 (2%)
Post-purchase rebate: $30.00 Get forms
Price after rebate: $274.49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001LYPNFQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
ASUS VW266H 25.5-Inch Widescreen LCD Monitor - Black
$304.49 & eligible for free shipping with Amazon Prime
You Save: $5.50 (2%)
Post-purchase rebate: $30.00 Get forms
Price after rebate: $274.49
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001LYPNFQ/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Hey guys currently contemplating on building a pc soon, still need some money but here's what I'm looking for. Don't need a monitor included with the desktop yet. I want rig that'll be able to run most of today's games at at least high settings.(Doesn't have to include Crysis)
Main Use: Gaming via Steam, I want
Budget: 700-850
Monitor Resolution: 720 to 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Half-Life 2, L4D 1 and 2, Portal 1 and 2, TF2, anything Valve, Starcraft 2, Dragon Age, maybe Crysis but doesn't have to max or high settings.
Main Use: Gaming via Steam, I want
Budget: 700-850
Monitor Resolution: 720 to 1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Half-Life 2, L4D 1 and 2, Portal 1 and 2, TF2, anything Valve, Starcraft 2, Dragon Age, maybe Crysis but doesn't have to max or high settings.
Newegg just emailed me. The Crucial RealSSD C300 64GB is in stock.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357
I can only find one review of this that seemed to praise it HERE
Would this be a good SSD for the OS + FFXIV + any FFXIV expansions?
140 bucks is a really nice price for this sort of thing. Only thing that worries me is the write speed but I really have no idea if thats good or bad tbh.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357
I can only find one review of this that seemed to praise it HERE
Would this be a good SSD for the OS + FFXIV + any FFXIV expansions?
140 bucks is a really nice price for this sort of thing. Only thing that worries me is the write speed but I really have no idea if thats good or bad tbh.
Disappointing. I was hoping it would be more focused on performance.Gritesh said:
Hopefully they include TurboBoost on the cheaper models.
It's cute. Maybe they couldn't fit a full HDMI on it. Either way its the same as HDMI.Reallink said:
Write speed is on par with the slower parts of a 640GB drive. I wouldn't worry about it all all especially when you are going to mostly be reading from it. Looks good to me.Salaadin said:
Must of been a really bad 600w. Hope it didn't take out any of your other components.Canti said:
You should just plunk down $80 or $90 on a Corsair 650 or 750w.
http://i28.tinypic.com/2nu6pgn.jpggrkazan12 said:
Swap in a 212+ from Amazon.com ($30)
Toss in a GTX 460 1GB ($230). And you are set.
Pre-Total: $730
Eh... you are asking for something not ideal at all.jkoch said:
You'll be running a slow CPU with a slow clocked low profile GPU... Not exactly the best combination.
What cards?Dizzy-4U said:
Corsair 750w is a nice place to start.
A general question about bottlenecks and overclocking:
My new computer has an i5-750 and it's getting the 1GB Palit 460 tonight. So, obviously the CPU can outperform the card, should I still overclock the CPU? I mean the bottlenecking at the GPU isn't that literal right? It isn't like I can't still gain performance from a faster CPU because the GPU is going to be the limiting reagent in my games' performance, right?
I have my i5-750 at 3.5ghz right now and load temps haven't gone past about 62, but I don't really want to push it too hard if I don't really need to.
My new computer has an i5-750 and it's getting the 1GB Palit 460 tonight. So, obviously the CPU can outperform the card, should I still overclock the CPU? I mean the bottlenecking at the GPU isn't that literal right? It isn't like I can't still gain performance from a faster CPU because the GPU is going to be the limiting reagent in my games' performance, right?
I have my i5-750 at 3.5ghz right now and load temps haven't gone past about 62, but I don't really want to push it too hard if I don't really need to.
Link me to the store you nabbed it from. I'll check if there's any decent alternatives (Probably not in that price range).Canti said:Thanks for the reply Hazaro, just purchased a 650w Corsair, trouble is in Europe they're more like $120 US >: Hope this will be the end of my problems anyway
Sucks because it's only $80 AR here.
Yes of course you should overclock.Amneisac said:
CPU bottleneck = more GPU does nothing (Most commonly seen in RTS/MMO games) TO A DEGREE. It may be that your CPU limits you to 60FPS. However if you turn on 2560x1650, 16xAA, and Ultra settings you'll hit 45 FPS. At that point you are GPU limited.
It's not a big thing to worry about in most cases if you have a recent processor running 3Ghz +
You could probably take your i5 to 3.7 or 3.8 on the same voltage so give it a shot if you want to.
Hazaro said:
Bought. Paid for the faster shipping too so Id have it before the weekend if they get it processed today. I hope
Im really hoping the 64GBs isnt going to lead to space issues later. Are SSDs the same as HDDs where the advertised space is more than what you actually get? How much usuable space will I get with 64GB SSD?
Windows 7 is what? 16 GBs? That leaves me with 48 GBs of working space. SHould be enough room for FFXIV and a few other programs.