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Stormtrooper30
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Alright guys, what do you think?
Final (maybe) build before I pull the trigger.
Most likely shipping to relatives in MS to save $80 on taxes.
After MIR, it comes to $790 plus $15 shipping.
Final (maybe) build before I pull the trigger.
Most likely shipping to relatives in MS to save $80 on taxes.
After MIR, it comes to $790 plus $15 shipping.
DrForester
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1stStrike said:
Awesome, thanks. Going to backup much as I can just to be safe but that will save a ton of hassle.
The_Inquisitor
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Stormtrooper30 said:Alright guys, what do you think?
Final (maybe) build before I pull the trigger.
Most likely shipping to relatives in MS to save $80 on taxes.
After MIR, it comes to $790 plus $15 shipping.
Looks good/very similar to my build I just did. I went w/ G.Skill RAM and the Antec Earthwatt PSU instead. I also used an A90 Armor case.
I promise to post internal shots later tonight.
brain_stew
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If that's for gaming then it'd be a terrible purchase. Your priorites are completeluy wrong.
mcdomination
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brain_stew said:
Care to explain why?
Ryoma-Echizen
Member
Chaser said:
i5/i7 are dead platforms in 2011.
Better go with Phenom II X6 1055T / 890GX mobo. Way better cpu(same price wich make it even better, i7 930 performance), easy upgrade path to a 2011 Bulldozer octocore.
BigBlackGamer
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looks like he just needs to replace the video card with a 460 and he's good to go.
brain_stew
Member
mcdomination said:
The GPU is the most critical component in a modern rig and its the one area where you cheaped out. If your budget is $800 then get a x4 955/870 CPU/Mobo combo and a 500w PSU instead so that you can afford a decent GPU.
If your buying a mechanical HDD then the Samsung F3 range is all you should be considering, dunno why so many still choose WD drives over them, if you don't trust me then trust Tech Report:
http://techreport.com/articles.x/19330
The Samsung F3 is the only 1TB HDD anyone should be considering, that's been the case for like 6 months now, feel like I'm banging my head against the wall repeating this, so many times in this thread! :lol
brain_stew
Member
Ryoma-Echizen said:
Why exactly would you recommend a 890GX board specifically when he won't be using the integrated graphics? Far better save some cash and get an 870 board and put the spare money towards a better GPU imo. There's a reason to possibly recommend the 890FX but I'm failing to see the need for a 890GX board for anyone with a dedicated GPU tbh.
The i5 750 is still great if you're going to be overclocking.
Nothing wrong with WD Blacks either. They're pretty comparable to the Samsung F3. Minor differences in performance and price.
The GPU is the main concern. Put a GTX 460 in there before you do anything else.
edit: get the 1GB GTX 460 if you can push it. Also, I think the i5 750 might have been a better deal than that AMD 955. I haven't been keeping up much with CPUs lately. Hopefully brain_stew can comment.
Nothing wrong with WD Blacks either. They're pretty comparable to the Samsung F3. Minor differences in performance and price.
The GPU is the main concern. Put a GTX 460 in there before you do anything else.
edit: get the 1GB GTX 460 if you can push it. Also, I think the i5 750 might have been a better deal than that AMD 955. I haven't been keeping up much with CPUs lately. Hopefully brain_stew can comment.
Might want to grab your videocard off NewEgg instead. NCIX has been pretty shitty for the GTX 460 supply.
This one looks really nice:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333&cm_re=gtx_460-_-14-125-333-_-Product
Much better cooler than stock as well.
This one looks really nice:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125333&cm_re=gtx_460-_-14-125-333-_-Product
Much better cooler than stock as well.
brain_stew
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Um, you've just gone and changed your budget!? If you have more money to work with then let us know. Otherwise I just end up wasting my time giving the wrong advice.
You most definitely don't want a 790x motherboard and that combo "deal" is horrendously bad value. I was suggesting changing your CPU to save you money, don't go changing it if its the same price!
1055T and i5-750 are basically the same price. Choose between better performance now and better OCing ability or better performance later and better upgrade options. Depends on your priorities, but if you've got the money for them chips and a GTX 460 then there's no need to get something weaker.
That HDD is an old model without 500GB platter tech. so ditch it. The Samsung will be faster and quieter.
You most definitely don't want a 790x motherboard and that combo "deal" is horrendously bad value. I was suggesting changing your CPU to save you money, don't go changing it if its the same price!
1055T and i5-750 are basically the same price. Choose between better performance now and better OCing ability or better performance later and better upgrade options. Depends on your priorities, but if you've got the money for them chips and a GTX 460 then there's no need to get something weaker.
That HDD is an old model without 500GB platter tech. so ditch it. The Samsung will be faster and quieter.
TouchMyBox
Member
brain_stew said:
Problem is, where I'm from, I can find WD Black drives for significantly less money more often than not.
I would prefer to not go over $800, but a few more is doable. If I can get it under without sacrificing performance that would be great, obviously.brain_stew said:
And ah, I misunderstood regarding the CPU, I'll switch it back to the i5-750.
Are there any other issues? Is a 550W power supply sufficient, for example?
And again, thanks for the help. I'm way behind on the times.
brain_stew
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TouchMyBox said:
Are they actually the newer, 500GB platter WD CAVIAR drives though? You really shouldn't even be considering the old ones imo.
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Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Forgive me if this is the wrong thread, but I can't find a non-ancient general PC hardware thread at the moment.
I'm running an EVGA nforce 730a with the usual quad core Phenom 9600 2.3ghz. I decided to upgrade it for modest gaming with a HD4850. Things are going okay, but I can't shake the feeling the 3D performance is being bogged down; it's not an issue of absolute frame rates, but rather everything is chuggy. Constant stuttering even when the FPS are high, choking and 3 - 10 frame hiccups when anything significant happens in a game, such as big group of enemies exploding in Torchlight. I've experimented with Source games including TF2, even loaded up the humble Torchlight. Same thing.
Also, I can turn absolutely everything off in a game I'm testing, and while the FPS shoots up to the sky, I can tell the stuttering hiccups are still there, just harder to spot.
I'm on a new install of Vista Business, clean. I've got the latest drivers for the 4850. I'm not a big PC hardware person. Any avenues I should investigate?
I'm running an EVGA nforce 730a with the usual quad core Phenom 9600 2.3ghz. I decided to upgrade it for modest gaming with a HD4850. Things are going okay, but I can't shake the feeling the 3D performance is being bogged down; it's not an issue of absolute frame rates, but rather everything is chuggy. Constant stuttering even when the FPS are high, choking and 3 - 10 frame hiccups when anything significant happens in a game, such as big group of enemies exploding in Torchlight. I've experimented with Source games including TF2, even loaded up the humble Torchlight. Same thing.
Also, I can turn absolutely everything off in a game I'm testing, and while the FPS shoots up to the sky, I can tell the stuttering hiccups are still there, just harder to spot.
I'm on a new install of Vista Business, clean. I've got the latest drivers for the 4850. I'm not a big PC hardware person. Any avenues I should investigate?
TouchMyBox
Member
brain_stew said:
Yeah, actually the last drive I bought from WD had 667GB platters. Of course, now that I'm not currently in the business of purchasing hard drives, it looks like i can actually find the SpinPoint F3 for cheaper for the time being. :lol
Need help, where do I go in Bios to change memory frequency?
So yeah I've run into trouble over this. Can't install windows cause I get blue screen of death due to a memory problem. Bios shows its reading my sticks at 1333 and I can't find where in Bios to change it to read 1600. One of the recent reviews on newegg had someone doing just that so I thought it should be NP.
Hazaro said:
So yeah I've run into trouble over this. Can't install windows cause I get blue screen of death due to a memory problem. Bios shows its reading my sticks at 1333 and I can't find where in Bios to change it to read 1600. One of the recent reviews on newegg had someone doing just that so I thought it should be NP.
brain_stew
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Milabrega said:
It should be fairly obvious, just have a poke around until you find it.
Hey PC-GAF, I want some advice. I'm currently getting by on a Dell desktop that was gutted and fitted with some RAM and an ATI Radeon HD 4850 video card. It's running Pentium 4 and Windows XP so it's a little outdated. 
With that said, I want to build a new machine. Specifically, I want to build an absolute bad ass gaming rig. Ideally, I want to run Crysis and just about every game in my Steam library on high/ultra/whatever. I'm willing to spend over $1000 and possibly limit myself to $1,500 at the most. Or maybe $100 less than that.
Fellow GAF'er Hostile Paradox has picked this stuff out for me. What do you guys think?
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128423
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115225
Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817182188
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136284
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820227424
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811119068
A few comments on these preliminary recommendations:
I'm not a fan of the case and I'm not entirely sure that I'll need a 1TB HDD but it would be nice to have. Also, a new video card isn't the #1 priority because I understand that the 4850 is pretty good BUT I do want to run my games on super sweet, high settings. Oh, and I want a new monitor as well. Maybe speakers too but I can get by for now.
Oh, I have a question: Are dedicated HDDs for a PC's OS a popular thing now? Could someone explain that to me?
Edit: LOL @ last post (see my links, that's why I lol'ed).
With that said, I want to build a new machine. Specifically, I want to build an absolute bad ass gaming rig. Ideally, I want to run Crysis and just about every game in my Steam library on high/ultra/whatever. I'm willing to spend over $1000 and possibly limit myself to $1,500 at the most. Or maybe $100 less than that.
Fellow GAF'er Hostile Paradox has picked this stuff out for me. What do you guys think?
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128423
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115225
Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817182188
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136284
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820227424
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811119068
A few comments on these preliminary recommendations:
I'm not a fan of the case and I'm not entirely sure that I'll need a 1TB HDD but it would be nice to have. Also, a new video card isn't the #1 priority because I understand that the 4850 is pretty good BUT I do want to run my games on super sweet, high settings. Oh, and I want a new monitor as well. Maybe speakers too but I can get by for now.
Oh, I have a question: Are dedicated HDDs for a PC's OS a popular thing now? Could someone explain that to me?
Edit: LOL @ last post (see my links, that's why I lol'ed).
DrForester
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Blueblur1 said:Hey PC-GAF, I want some advice. I'm currently getting by on a Dell desktop that was gutted and fitted with some RAM and an ATI Radeon HD 4850 video card. It's running Pentium 4 and Windows XP so it's a little outdated.
With that said, I want to build a new machine. Specifically, I want to build an absolute bad ass gaming rig. Ideally, I want to run Crysis and just about every game in my Steam library on high/ultra/whatever. I'm willing to spend over $1000 and possibly limit myself to $1,500 at the most. Or maybe $100 less than that.
Fellow GAF'er Hostile Paradox has picked this stuff out for me. What do you guys think?
Motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813128423
Processor:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16819115225
Power supply:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817182188
HDD:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16822136284
RAM:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820227424
Case:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811119068
A few comments on these preliminary recommendations:
I'm not a fan of the case and I'm not entirely sure that I'll need a 1TB HDD but it would be nice to have. Also, a new video card isn't the #1 priority because I understand that the 4850 is pretty good BUT I do want to run my games on super sweet, high settings. Oh, and I want a new monitor as well. Maybe speakers too but I can get by for now.
Oh, I have a question: Are dedicated HDDs for a PC's OS a popular thing now? Could someone explain that to me?
Edit: LOL @ last post (see my links, that's why I lol'ed).
Looks good, If you're willing to spend that much, get a good GPU. Everyone here likes the GTX 460 (Just bought one myself and will hopefully build tomorrow).
That PSU is very much overkill, even if you do SLI/Crossfire on most of the video cards in your price range, 1000w is a lot. Use neweggs PSU calculator to get an idea what you need.
http://c1.neweggimages.com/BizIntel...ons.newegg.com/productfinders/powersupply.jpg
1TB HDDs are cheap enough, go for it, you'll be happy. Can never have too much space.
As for the case, if you don't like it, get another one. Newegg has tons of them, jsut search for ATX midsized cases. Look for something that catches your eye, and then check out the reviews. Cooler Master is a good brand, another good brand is Antec. Generally, just stay away from the flashy cases that are mostly style without good construction, but cases with lots of reviews will give you a good hint (might even throw the model you like into good and add review, and read some PC sites reviews of it)
Also, if you're buying from newegg, be sure to check all your main items bundle deals, see if you can get a nice deal.
Got a great new job, and so I am in the process of spoiling myself very soon.
Intel Core i7-980XEE
ASUS Rampage III Extreme
EVGA GTX480 Two of these
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 12gb
Silverstone ST1500
Plextor 12X BR-R
OCZ Agility 2
Western Digital WD20EVDS
COOLER MASTER HAF 932
One thing that concerns me is will I need water cooling if I run two GTX480s? I plan on decking the case out with plenty of fans but will that be enough? I do not plan on overclocking the GPUs or the CPU.
Intel Core i7-980XEE
ASUS Rampage III Extreme
EVGA GTX480 Two of these
Crucial Ballistix Tracer 12gb
Silverstone ST1500
Plextor 12X BR-R
OCZ Agility 2
Western Digital WD20EVDS
COOLER MASTER HAF 932
One thing that concerns me is will I need water cooling if I run two GTX480s? I plan on decking the case out with plenty of fans but will that be enough? I do not plan on overclocking the GPUs or the CPU.
BigJonsson
Member
I bought a Lenovo Ideapad Y560 today.........so far it runs awesome but I have no current PC games to try out yet :lol
:|Weenerz said:
*On a more serious note the 980X is a huge waste of money with new sockets coming out in a few months.
If you are serious about dropping that much dough I'd wait for sure.
Also water cooling is not needed, but aftermarket heatsinks could be helpful. Doesn't matter if you run it at stock though.
It's 10x harder to assemble your own PC than it is to OC (including voltage tweaks). There are a million things that can go wrong during assembly but actually overclocking has maybe only 20 variables at most (assuming your PC runs fine in the first place).
Your time and your money of course. If you can afford to wait, you can get a prebuilt or have someone else assemble it for you. It's a fun experience and can be really stressful the first time around but I think you'll be all the better for assembling and OCing it yourself that first time. Pop that cherry dude... PC gaming feels good man
Your time and your money of course. If you can afford to wait, you can get a prebuilt or have someone else assemble it for you. It's a fun experience and can be really stressful the first time around but I think you'll be all the better for assembling and OCing it yourself that first time. Pop that cherry dude... PC gaming feels good man
Stormtrooper30
Member
Hmm, how much of a hassle would it be if I did pair the two together? I'll be $40 out if I try and use a different brand for my RAM.JSnake said:
Chaser said:I'm hoping this is my finalized build. I'm also hoping to save a little more if possible, but this isn't bad.
I still am unsure on the power supply (both the brand and the spec), so if anyone could advise me there that would be awesome. Thanks!
You can get a 5770 for $159 at Newegg.ca (ncix will price match). Get the 5770.
I have a few questions before I go with the following build:
*I picked up the i7 today at microcenter for 200, so that brings the damage down within my proposed budget; almost. (1200)
Do I need a heatsink out of the box for the i7 if I am not planning on overclocking right away?
If I moderately overclock down the line, will the 750w PSU be the way to go, or will the 650 suffice? I have never overclocked before so I am out of the loop on how they tie together, but I have read that they do.
Any other feedback would be greatly appreciated.
*I picked up the i7 today at microcenter for 200, so that brings the damage down within my proposed budget; almost. (1200)
Do I need a heatsink out of the box for the i7 if I am not planning on overclocking right away?
If I moderately overclock down the line, will the 750w PSU be the way to go, or will the 650 suffice? I have never overclocked before so I am out of the loop on how they tie together, but I have read that they do.
Any other feedback would be greatly appreciated.
Najaf said:
I just built my i7 rig last week but I took someone's settings to get a 3.6Ghz overclock and it went great--but I'm using a Hyper 212+. Great cooler, running @ 42C idle and at the highest mid-50s in games (SC2) thus far, I can deal with that at 3.6. May tinker with it in the future.
Unfortunately I don't know how well the stock cooler does with no OC, but I imagine it should be fine.
Weenerz said:Link me! I may wait!
*edit Are these AMD CPUs? I much prefer Intel tbh.
Bulldozer is the codename AMD has given to one of the next-generation CPU cores after the K10 microarchitecture for the company's M-SPACE design methodology, with the core specifically aimed at 10 watt to 100 watt TDP computing products. Bulldozer is a completely new design developed from the ground up. AMD claims dramatic performance-per-watt improvements in HPC applications with Bulldozer cores. Products implementing the Bulldozer core are planned for release in 2011.
The Bulldozer cores will support most of the instruction sets currently implemented in Intel processors (including SSE4.1, SSE4.2, AES, CLMUL), future Instruction sets announced by Intel (AVX), as well as future instruction sets proposed by AMD (XOP and FMA4).
As of November 2009, Bulldozer-based implementations built on 32 nm SOI with HKMG are scheduled to arrive in 2011 for both servers and desktops, as the 16-core Opteron processor codenamed Interlagos and as the 4- or 8-core desktop processor codenamed Zambezi.
Bulldozer is the next-generation micro-architecture and processor design developed from the ground up by AMD. Bulldozer will be the first major redesign of AMDs processor architecture since 2003, when the firm launched its Athlon 64/Opteron (K8) processors. Bulldozer will feature two 128-bit FMA-capable FPUs which can be combined into one 256-bit FPU. This design is accompanied with two integer cores each with 4 pipelines (the fetch/decode stage is shared). Bulldozer will also introduce shared L2 cache in the new architecture. AMD calls this design a "Bulldozer module". A 16-core processor design would feature eight of these modules, but the operating system will see each module as two physical cores.
Edit: Hell yes, I finally have an avatar!
I was going to go with the GIGABYTE but the ASUS P6X58D-E is only $175 with an opened box. Should I even consider an open box product to save $60 or am I only asking for trouble?
I'd stick with the GB.Najaf said:
You can also combo your PSU/RAM/HDD (I'd get an F3 1TB)
Easy.rac said:
Combo the 650w with a samsung f3 1tb.
Buy a 212+ from microcenter, or get a vendetta ii, scythe mugen ii, n520 elsewhere for cheaper.
1000W is more than enough.Weenerz said:
The CM 692, 690 II, has holes for a WC loop, that Raven looks terrible when it comes to airflow...
http://hardocp.com/article/2010/08/05/corsair_h70_cpu_cooler_first_install
The Corsair H70 being installed in the case I'm looking at, with the video cards and cpu I want :lol
They say it goes good together but we shall see.
The Corsair H70 being installed in the case I'm looking at, with the video cards and cpu I want :lol
They say it goes good together but we shall see.
Is the AMD Phenom II X6 compatible with this http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0315397 or should I stick with a x4?Hazaro said: