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[Blackface]

Hey guys, building a new PC, primarily for gaming. I'm on a bit of a budget, nearly over. I also plan on keeping this mobo for for a future processor updgrade, hence AMD AM3 over i5/1156. I don't have many parts lying around from old PC's, been using a shitty laptop for the last few years since college. I oversized the PSU on purpose for future considerations, and it's a great combo deal. Looking for advice on a few things:

- I don't plan on overclocking from the start, but I will within the next year or so; will stock cooling on this build suffice for stock speeds?
- Any suggestions on the best heatsinks/fans?
- I'm trying to decide between the monitor shown in the list (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052) and the next model up (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049). Is the lower response time (2ms vs. 5ms) worth the extra money? I plan on keeping the monitor around for a good amount of time 5+ years. Does anyone have experience with either of these specific models?
- I've heard that the next line of AMD CPU's (Bulldozer or whatever) will be backwards compatible with the AM3 socket, a la AM2+ ==> AM2. Is this true? This, along with price, is why I'm choosing AMD over Intel for this build. I've been pleased with AMD processors in the past.
- I know everyone here is crazy about the Samsung F3 tech. I selected the caviar based on price and past quality experience. Good combo with the case as well. Is there that much of a performance drop off from the F3 to this particular Caviar model?
- Any complaints on the case? It seems to be the best at such a low price.

Advice is greatly appreciated, thanks again!

1. The 5MS monitor is fine. You won't notice any major ghosting. 2MS is better, but it's up to you if you want to pay the price difference.

2. Stock cooling will be fine until you start to OC.

3. Yes Bulldozer will be backwards compatible with AM3.

4. F3 is much faster performance wise then the drive you select, yes there will be a difference. Yours is a good reliable drive, it's just not a performance first one.

5. Can't really tell what type of case you have. I assume it's a rosewill or something equally as cheap. It should be fine.

Overall just about everything you bought is high quality and it will make a solid build.

 

[rogue74]

Its complete pot luck and increasingly that 4th core is making a bigger and bigger difference. Spend the $20 and get the 635, its the best value CPU you can buy atm.

OK. I have taken all of the advice under consideration and had another go at it. I think I did pretty well. After playing around with combos I managed to go quad core and double my hard drive space for only $27 more!

What do you think now?:

 

[brain_stew]

That's looking very, very nice. Should be a fantastic rig. $27 very well spent.

 

[Hazaro]

what do you guys think of this combo

RAM: Kingston DDR3 4Gb 1600MHz 100€
MOBO: Gigabyte MA785GT-UD3H socket AM3 - Chipset AMD 785G & AMD SB710 75€
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition 3.4 GHz 125W 165€

Total: 340 € (Euros approximatively the same thing as dollar)

I'd get a x4 635, if you want a little more oomph you can get a 955. 965 is unneeded.

You could probably find a 870 motherboard for $70. Perhaps the MSI 870A.

Gentlemen, I was putting a build together for a friend. $1500 limit, but he said he wouldn't mind going over a bit more. $50ish.
Current Price tag: $1490 w/ shipping

The large power supply is for the future, in case he wants to run SLI, he won't have to upgrade it again.
The HDD is 3.0Gb/s as is my understanding that 6.0Gb/s is a waste for a HDD as it cannot fully utilize it. Had to get this one due to budget limitations.

The SSD will be for OS, but is it worth it instead to get a SATA III SSD?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148357

Any other constructive criticism would be appreciated.

I heard a rumor that OCZ RAM and this motherboard don't play well together, which is why I went wih G.Skill. Stay the course or is this hogwash?

Also, what happens if I Raid 0 a 1TB HDD and a 500GB HDD? Do I lose the 500GB on the 1TB or does it become a separate partition?

Super overkill and wrong on PSU. Get a nice Corsair 750W or other 80+ Certified PSU.
I'd also get a Samsung F3 1TB from ewiz for $65 instead.

...and I'd personally get an i5 750 + ASUS _______ Pro since it has SATA6/USB3.
SATA 6 is a must for an SSD. A good buy is a C300 drive or a WD Blue 128GB. Many other good buys too, just know those are.

Hey guys, building a new PC, primarily for gaming. I'm on a bit of a budget, nearly over. I also plan on keeping this mobo for for a future processor updgrade, hence AMD AM3 over i5/1156. I don't have many parts lying around from old PC's, been using a shitty laptop for the last few years since college. I oversized the PSU on purpose for future considerations, and it's a great combo deal. Looking for advice on a few things:

- I don't plan on overclocking from the start, but I will within the next year or so; will stock cooling on this build suffice for stock speeds?
- Any suggestions on the best heatsinks/fans?
- I'm trying to decide between the monitor shown in the list (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052) and the next model up (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236049). Is the lower response time (2ms vs. 5ms) worth the extra money? I plan on keeping the monitor around for a good amount of time 5+ years. Does anyone have experience with either of these specific models?
- I've heard that the next line of AMD CPU's (Bulldozer or whatever) will be backwards compatible with the AM3 socket, a la AM2+ ==> AM2. Is this true? This, along with price, is why I'm choosing AMD over Intel for this build. I've been pleased with AMD processors in the past.
- I know everyone here is crazy about the Samsung F3 tech. I selected the caviar based on price and past quality experience. Good combo with the case as well. Is there that much of a performance drop off from the F3 to this particular Caviar model?
- Any complaints on the case? It seems to be the best at such a low price.

Advice is greatly appreciated, thanks again!

That Green model is a tad slower. 5ms is fine. If you are more budget minded I'd get an x4 635. Overclocking is not something you should wait to do. You can get a cooler + 635 for less than a x4 955 and clock it faster.
850w waaaaaaaaay overkill. Corsair 550W is fine.

http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg

http://i34.tinypic.com/20fdsno.jpg
http://secure.newegg.com/WishList/PublicWishDetail.aspx?WishListNumber=20089348

Hi all. Wanted to get feedback on this build I am planning. Taking a dive back into PC gaming after a few years away. I don't have much money to work with at the moment. So I went AMD (of course). I tried to put together something decent at <650 and with options for CPU/GPU upgrades for the next couple of years.

One thing to keep in mind is I have an old LCD monitor still in good condition (1280 X 1024). I plan to upgrade in the not too distant future but for the next few months I would be gaming at that resolution.

Get an x4 635 instead. Otherwise looks real nice.

Just put this build together for a friend.

Been out of the loop for a long time, haven't built one since ~2005 I think. Last card I had was an Nvidia 6600GT.

Trying to keep it around that budget. There's no hard drive yet cause he hadn't decided how big he wants. Still need to add another fan or two as well.

How does it look? Any glaring oversights, mismatches, better products for the price?

You can get a 5770 after rebate for the same price. You can also get a 4850 for $85 AR and a 4870 for $105 after rebate.

I wouldn't get a 5750.

Get this mobo instead and nab DDR3. Same price after all.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130290

Also get a x4 635 for $1 more. Worth it.

PSU you can change to an earthwatts 500W (Says less amps, but can deliver more watts)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817371035
Or go for a Corsair 550W and deal with the rebate.

*Note that your parts are totally fine, just some minor stuff to improve. (Besides mobo, that should be ddr3)

 

[Hazaro]

OK. I have taken all of the advice under consideration and had another go at it. I think I did pretty well. After playing around with combos I managed to go quad core and double my hard drive space for only $27 more!

What do you think now?:

$17 more.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...-F3-HD103SJ-1TB-SATA2-7200rpm-32MB-Hard-Drive

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*Reposting*
1)Basic Desktop Questions
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Gaming, Video editing, or just general usage
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Self Explanatory

2)General Guide on what to buy (Summer)
Hazaro's buying guide (July, 2010)
De facto internet standard. Accept no substitutes
Tech Report Builders Guide!
A very good basic guide that has been updated for Summer. Has alternative options and many price points.

3) 15 minute video how-to
http://vimeo.com/5685229
40 minute how-to
http://www.tested.com/news/video-how-to-build-the-best-1500-gaming-pc-step-by-step/152/

4) Prospective laptop buyers please fill this out and ask their forum as well.
http://forum.notebookreview.com/wha...ould-i-buy-form-must-read-before-posting.html

 

[Kintaro]

So, I geeked out a little bit here. I picked up a 32" HDTV to use a monitor. Because thats how the glorious master race rolls. However, to those that do this, what kind of picture calibration did you use for your set up?

 

[Ichigo]

Ok re-worked it a bit, how does this look

 

[Prezhulio]

first, thanks to hazaro and brain_stew and really anybody who knows what they are talking about for posting a lot of useful info in here, i'm insanely excited to get back into pc gaming after a 6 year absence from it due to college expense/forced laptop use.

i'm heading down to microcenter to pick up the i7930 and cooler master 212+ for cheap, then i'll be putting in the rest through newegg and amazon later in the day. it LOOKS like i'll be able to get everything (x58 mobo, 6gb ddr3 2000, 1100w psu, cooler master cm690II case, 1TB f3, mouse+kb, windows7, dvd drive) for just under $1500, which was pretty much where i wanted my budget to be.

i think i'm going with the gtx480 for now. really torn between just going to straight into the 460 sli, but i think in a few months when i'm ready to throw another $450 down for 2nd gtx480 i'll be happy, while still loving the performance in the meantime for most stuff, from benchmarks i've been looking at. i mean i won't have a display that's above 1080 anyways. my only worry is that the new ati's will hit at $600 and i'll want to jump in with them in that time frame and take a loss on the 480, but i guess that's the nature of the pc beast.

a couple final questions if anybody cares to answer:

last i was in pc gaming scene, never really considered oc'ing but i'm definitely interested now in getting more performance. i've never put an aftermarket heatsink in, but i'm assuming if i've replaced the gamet of pc parts i'm qualified enough to follow some directions? i've seen a few tutorials out there on oc'ing, but i'd be happy to take a look at some recommended readings, especially if it's focused on some power/temp limits of i7 or the 480. speaking of which, how well does the stock fans on recent video cards work out for ocing?

1100w psu is more than enough to oc the i7 and run 480s in sli right?

i'm planning on outputting to my 40" panny 1080 plasma for now until i feel like getting a monitor, is this a terrible decision? setup in a living room won't bother me until i get an office area put together.

 

[brain_stew]

Its the 1GB GTX 460 you want (get the Gigabyte, pretty sure thats in a combo with that PSU as well) not the 768MB one. Pricing shouldn't be too dissimilar but you're asking for trouble later on by going with the smaller framebuffer.

Edit: Prez, the fuck are you buying a 1.1kw PSU for!!?? :/

You running 3 GTX 480s or something!?

Edit: 2 GTX 480s, you really sure you need all that grunt? I can't think of any that makes a GTX 480 struggle at 1080p, you're just adding a lot of unnecessary extra power consumption and headaches by going SLI. If you haven't been keeping up with PC gaming I can't see how a single GTX 480 won't suffice. If you've put up with subHD and sub 30fps framerates for 6 years then the leap is just incomprehensible. If you were going for a 3D setup or with a 2560x1600 monitor well then that's different but 1080p really isn't such a high resolution these days.

I'd get this PSU:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139009

It'll run that rig no trouble even with dual Fermis.

 

[Prezhulio]

2x480 and i7930: 630w w/o ocing

the psu i was looking at was a good deal (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190025) with rebates, but i guess this is the kinda info i need haha! so just go with a corsair 750w and be happy with the reliability?

edit: good deal, thanks for the info. i'll see how one 480 goes at first, and like you said if i feel the need i'll go for two.

 

[brain_stew]

2x480 and i7930: 630w w/o ocing

the psu i was looking at was a good deal (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817190025) with rebates, but i guess this is the kinda info i need haha! so just go with a corsair 750w and be happy with the reliability?

edit: good deal, thanks for the info. i'll see how one 480 goes at first, and like you said if i feel the need i'll go for two.

A Corsair 650W PSU almost certainly will deliver more sustained power than that POS. Stay far away. I'd go with the 850w unit probably if SLI is more likely than not, its only $20 more.

 

[Weenerz]

I just read on HardOCP that GTX460s are beating 5870s? How fast the tables have turned. ATI was top dog for what, a year?

 

[DualShadow]

Hey guys,

Looking for some opinions on these rigs I'm interested in.

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1027_1029&products_id=15003

http://www.pccasegear.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1027_1029&products_id=14983

I'm leaning more towards the Intel set-up, however the SSD in the AMD rig would be awesome for an OS.


What do you guys think? One better then the other? Both rubbish?

Thanks

Sorry for quoting myself but would like some more opinions before i pull the trigger on either.

Thanks Felix for your response, much appreciated.

 

[brain_stew]

Sorry for quoting myself but would like some more opinions before i pull the trigger on either.

Thanks Felix for your response, much appreciated.

The Intel rig is significantly better and cheaper, so yeah, no brainer really.

Edit: Didn't notice the SSD, probably not enough to swing it though.

 

[brain_stew]

I just read on HardOCP that GTX460s are beating 5870s? How fast the tables have turned. ATI was top dog for what, a year?

In cherry picked benchmarks? Sure, on the whole they're not even in the same performance category.

 

[Hazaro]

first, thanks to hazaro and brain_stew and really anybody who knows what they are talking about for posting a lot of useful info in here, i'm insanely excited to get back into pc gaming after a 6 year absence from it due to college expense/forced laptop use.

i'm heading down to microcenter to pick up the i7930 and cooler master 212+ for cheap, then i'll be putting in the rest through newegg and amazon later in the day. it LOOKS like i'll be able to get everything (x58 mobo, 6gb ddr3 2000, 1100w psu, cooler master cm690II case, 1TB f3, mouse+kb, windows7, dvd drive) for just under $1500, which was pretty much where i wanted my budget to be.

1100w psu is more than enough to oc the i7 and run 480s in sli right?

That PSU is a death sentance.
Please get a solid 750W or 850W instead. (80+ CERTIFIED, good reviews from jonnyguru, [H], hardware secrets)

4GB should be fine for you, dual channel performs the same. If you are doing heavy CS/video stuff you might want 6GB.

By the time you wnat another GTX 480 there will probably be a much better card. I'd also suggest looking at how the GTX 460 performs and if you'd be ok with that as it's a much much much much better value.

Ok re-worked it a bit, how does this look

Get a 1TB F3 here for $10 more:
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...-F3-HD103SJ-1TB-SATA2-7200rpm-32MB-Hard-Drive

Also I'd get a 1GB GTX 460. Gigabyte model is good.

 

[DualShadow]

The Intel rig is significantly better and cheaper, so yeah, no brainer really.

Edit: Didn't notice the SSD, probably not enough to swing it though.

Thanks for the fast reply mate. Yeah the SSD was the thing I was thinking about mostly.

I think I'll go with the Intel rig.

Next step: Monitors :S

 

[rogue74]

That's looking very, very nice. Should be a fantastic rig. $27 very well spent.

Thanks for your help. As well as Hazaro and others. I just pulled the trigger. Can't wait to put this together.

 

[Prezhulio]

That PSU is a death sentance.
Please get a solid 750W or 850W instead. (80+ CERTIFIED, good reviews from jonnyguru, [H], hardware secrets)

4GB should be fine for you, dual channel performs the same. If you are doing heavy CS/video stuff you might want 6GB.

By the time you wnat another GTX 480 there will probably be a much better card. I'd also suggest looking at how the GTX 460 performs and if you'd be ok with that as it's a much much much much better value.

definitely heeding the advice and getting a corsair psu.

i won't be doing any heavy lifting at first as far as cs/video goes (new job might use some modeling but i doubt i'd use my home pc, who knows), but dual channel works on a x58 triple channel board?

i guess after looking at benchmarks for the res i'll be working with for the time being, i won't need much outside a 1gb 460. i think you and brain_stew probably have the right idea and cut back costs now and then when new class of cards hit and i need it i'll be less hesitant.

i might be excited to shave off $300 if i drop the 480 and 6gb, just feel a stupid impulse to 1up everything. maybe not stupid, i want room for SOME performance in the future and upgradability. tbh, i don't even know how many years a rig like this would perform well with games coming out, 2 years?

 

[Hazaro]

definitely heeding the advice and getting a corsair psu.

i won't be doing any heavy lifting at first as far as cs/video goes (new job might use some modeling but i doubt i'd use my home pc, who knows), but dual channel works on a x58 triple channel board?

i guess after looking at benchmarks for the res i'll be working with for the time being, i won't need much outside a 1gb 460. i think you and brain_stew probably have the right idea and cut back costs now and then when new class of cards hit and i need it i'll be less hesitant.

i might be excited to shave off $300 if i drop the 480 and 6gb, just feel a stupid impulse to 1up everything. maybe not stupid, i want room for SOME performance in the future and upgradability. tbh, i don't even know how many years a rig like this would perform well with games coming out, 2 years?

Almost all x58 boards will run dual channel just fine. You can download the manual from their website and check.

I'm positive your worries will go away when you have your rig together

 

[Phloxy]

Ok gaf, I'm in need of some help over here.I have a good rig, want to make it even better.

You guys helped me build my first rig hope you guys can help improve it. So here goes.

I have this mobo,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131365
(ASUS P6T Deluxe V2 LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard )

this ram http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145250
(CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115202
(Intel Core i7-920 Bloomfield 2.66GHz 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB)

corsair 650 watt power supply
this is my 3d card
EVGA 017-P3-1175-AR GeForce GTX 275 1792MB 448-bit DDR3
My main concern is stuff fitting, I have a 300 antec mini tower.
I was thinking another set of ram to make it 12, an a decent fan to overclock my core17 to 3.4-3.5 ghz.

As for 3d card, is it better to get a 480 an use the 275 for physx? Or buy another 275 and run it in sli? I'm just not sure if my mobo and tower can fit anything, in desperate need of help. Sorry for the noob post gaf.

 

[Hawk269]

Can anyone review the build a friend put together for me...it is right around my budget, with the specs I wanted. Anything I should change? Thanks in advance!


CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply $129.99

ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard $99.99

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL $97.99

ARCTIC COOLING MX-2 Thermal Compound $9.98

Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case $69.99

FREE GIFT StarCraft2 - FREE Trial Version Game coupon $59.99

Logitech Wave Pro Desktop Black USB 2.4 GHz Wireless Keyboard & Mouse Combo $110.00

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99

EVGA 01G-P3-1373-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support ... $239.99

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor HDZ965FBGMBOX $179.99

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99

Subtotal $1,012.90

Thanks again for any feedback on this build.

 

[Hazaro]

Ok gaf, I'm in need of some help over here.I have a good rig, want to make it even better.

As for 3d card, is it better to get a 480 an use the 275 for physx? Or buy another 275 and run it in sli? I'm just not sure if my mobo and tower can fit anything, in desperate need of help. Sorry for the noob post gaf.

480 is the same length iirc so you are fine.

See this image for heatsinks: http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg
Also I'd aim for 4.2Ghz instead of something low like 3.4Ghz

Can anyone review the build a friend put together for me...it is right around my budget, with the specs I wanted. Anything I should change? Thanks in advance!


CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply $129.99

ASUS M4N75TD AM3 NVIDIA nForce 750a SLI ATX AMD Motherboard $99.99

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST31000528AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $74.99

Thanks again for any feedback on this build.

Unless you plan on SLi later get a decent 500W+ PSU, I can't find anything great atm so an Earthwatts 500W is what I would say for the price. If you do plan on SLi later I'd go for a corsair 750w or other 80+ certified psu.

Get a Samsung F3 1TB here for $65, or on newegg for $75.
http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php?name...-F3-HD103SJ-1TB-SATA2-7200rpm-32MB-Hard-Drive

Way old motherboard. See image for what to get: http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg

I'd also get a 955 BE for $30 cheaper.

 

[Phloxy]

480 is the same length iirc so you are fine.

See this image for heatsinks: http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg
Also I'd aim for 4.2Ghz instead of something low like 3.4Ghz

O.k, so do you think itd be better to get a 480 an use the 275 for phsyx, mostly for batman aa an mafia dos an whatnot.

 

[Hazaro]

Get a 480 if you think you need it, sell the GTX 275.

 

[Phloxy]

Thanks Hazaro man, big big help. LOVE GAF MAN!

 

[Corky]

hey guys, I'm about to install my new ram and change the settings in the bios. Is anyone online atm so I can show you a pic of bios with the settings so you can confirm wether or not everthing looks ok?

 

[Hazaro]

hey guys, I'm about to install my new ram and change the settings in the bios. Is anyone online atm so I can show you a pic of bios with the settings so you can confirm wether or not everthing looks ok?

Just set them to what the sticks say.

Also the Antec EarthWatts 500W is $50 at Newegg with this code: EMCYWZY24

 

[Corky]

Just set them to what the sticks say.

Also the Antec EarthWatts 500W is $50 at Newegg with this code: EMCYWZY24

Its just that theres soo many settings I dont know what to do with. Like whats DCT0 1st information, 2nd information? DCT1?DCT2? etc

 

[Hazaro]

Its just that theres soo many settings I dont know what to do with. Like whats DCT0 1st information, 2nd information? DCT1?DCT2? etc

:lol
That's a lot of info.

the letters in order just refer to the timings of each.
5
5
5
3(5)

is the same as 5-5-5-15

The other T values (the higher ones) you don't need to touch. Looks like its reading your RAM just fine.

 

[Corky]

:lol
That's a lot of info.

the letters in order just refer to the timings of each.
5
5
5
3(5)

is the same as 5-5-5-15

The other TD values you don't need to touch. Looks like its reading your RAM just fine.

oh so I dont need to have it look like this?That is, I can leave everything on auto? :

 

[Hazaro]

oh so I dont need to have it look like this?That is, I can leave everything on auto?

It's detecting the correct values so it wouldn't matter. I like mine having being manually set.

 

[Corky]

It's detecting the correct values so it wouldn't matter. I like mine having being manually set.

oki well I went with manual settings, 2.1V 1066mhz freq, unganged mode enabled. And now I wont get anything on the screen


no bios no nothing, just black. Gonna try resetting bios and take it from there

 

[Mr Nightman]

just a quick question, what are normal temps for a phenom 2 x4 945 cpu?

 

[Mr_Brit]

just a quick question, what are normal temps for a phenom 2 x4 945 cpu?

Just keep it under 60 at load.

 

[Mr Nightman]

Just keep it under 60 at load.

well typically it idles about 50 celsius, seen it go about 60 maybe a little over, under load, on hot days

 

[Corky]

well, I put everything on default and auto so now the pc bootsatleast. But now I'm all paranoid thinking that I fucked something up with my new ram. Gonna see what memtest says...

 

[Mr_Brit]

well typically it idles about 50 celsius, seen it go about 60 maybe a little over, under load, on hot days

Alright that idle is wayyyyy too high. Did you mount the heatsink correctly, take off the plastic underneath, did you use any thermal paste, what is your ambient temperature?

 

[Mr Nightman]

Alright that idle is wayyyyy too high. Did you mount the heatsink correctly, take off the plastic underneath, did you use any thermal paste, what is your ambient temperature?

Yup its mounted correctly, never had any problems though, may just be my shitty airflow in my case, may just mount a 120mm intake fan on the side panel above the cpu

 

[nilbog21]

can someone review this build before i purchase it?

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $100

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GT-UD3H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard 75$

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor 179$

i don't really know what i am doing, are these parts good? more importantly are they compatible? I'm a bit iffy on the mobo ..

ALso do you guys think this PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Could handle it?

480 is the same length iirc so you are fine.



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[Salaadin]

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Holy crap, thanks for that!
I just traded in some games to amazon and was going to use the credit on a Samsung F3. Now I guess I need something else to spend it on...

 

[brain_stew]

can someone review this build before i purchase it?

Kingston HyperX 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) $100

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GT-UD3H AM3 AMD 785G HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard 75$

AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition Deneb 3.4GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache Socket AM3 125W Quad-Core Processor 179$

i don't really know what i am doing, are these parts good? more importantly are they compatible? I'm a bit iffy on the mobo ..

ALso do you guys think this PSU: OCZ ModXStream Pro 600W Could handle it?




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Can't say I'd recommend any of those parts.

I'd get MSI's 870 board for $70 personally, newer chipset, similar featurest, cheaper price.

You can get better RAM (G. Skill) for less money

You can get basically the same processor but with 2 extra cores for an extra $20, the 1055T so do that or get a much cheaper X4 945 instead, maybe a 955 at a push but I think its overpriced, the 965 is even worse value though.


That PSU is fine. You getting it in a combo with the Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB?

 

[brain_stew]

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[nilbog21]

Can't say I'd recommend any of those parts.

I'd get MSI's 870 board for $70 personally, newer chipset, similar featurest, cheaper price.

Would it still be worth it if i can only get it for ~90$ ? (euro shopper)

You can get basically the same processor but with 2 extra cores for an extra $20, the 1055T so do that or get a much cheaper X4 945 instead, maybe a 955 at a push but I think its overpriced, the 965 is even worse value though.

ok il get the 1055T

That PSU is fine. You getting it in a combo with the Gigabyte GTX 460 1GB?

its not a combo, but yes i do have the GTX 460 768mb

 

[Corky]

guys, am I fucked?

I just got a mail from my store that told me that only one of the GPUs I sent in was broken. Now I received the new GTS 250 today, opened it up and to my surprise it looks different from the other one. I haven't gotten my old nonbroken gts 250 back but I'm afraid of this :

The cards ( Gainward GeForce GTS250 1GB PhysX CUDA ) are supposed to be technically identical it seems, that is memory, features etc BUT they look different, I'm afraid that this wont let me run them in SLI. Are my fears unfounded or am I truly fucked?

Heres a tiny pic of what they look like :

 

[Mr_Brit]

guys, am I fucked?

I just got a mail from my store that told me that only one of the GPUs I sent in was broken. Now I received the new GTS 250 today, opened it up and to my surprise it looks different from the other one. I haven't gotten my old nonbroken gts 250 back but I'm afraid of this :

The cards ( Gainward GeForce GTS250 1GB PhysX CUDA ) are supposed to be technically identical it seems, that is memory, features etc BUT they look different, I'm afraid that this wont let me run them in SLI. Are my fears unfounded or am I truly fucked?

Heres a tiny pic of what they look like :

As long as they have the same core, and all GTS250s do, they will run fine.

 

[Corky]

As long as they have the same core, and all GTS250s do, they will run fine.

*breathes a sigh of relief*

thanks man, can't wait to put my teeth into all these awesome games I've bought.

I'm looking at you stalker,dow2,crysis,warhead,world in conflict,company of heroes and so on....


edit: ops, and that little game called sc2.
<3

 

[abq]

I have a problem with my new rig and hdd. When I start the computer, the hdd spins up and then makes a noise similar to the click of death (more clonking or jamming than clicking). I thought the hdd was bad and was going to RMA it. Just to be sure, I put the hdd in another computer and to my surprise, it seems to work (no unusual sounds and I managed to install Windows 7 on it).

I then thought the problem lied with the mobo or PSU. I popped in an old SATA drive I had lying around in the new computer and it boots up Windows XP.

What could be the problem? The mobo and hdd are the ones in Hazaro's system guide.

 

[brain_stew]

Would it still be worth it if i can only get it for ~90$ ? (euro shopper)



ok il get the 1055T




its not a combo, but yes i do have the GTX 460 768mb

In future if you're based outside the US please say so in your post, it makes my life so much easier. Link to the atual retailer you're buying these things from!

Either way don't get a 785G motherboard as you may miss out on some upgrade options. Get a 870/880G/890GX whichever is cheapest. Link me to the ones you can choose from if you can.

 

[Minsc]

I have a problem with my new rig and hdd. When I start the computer, the hdd spins up and then makes a noise similar to the click of death (more clonking or jamming than clicking). I thought the hdd was bad and was going to RMA it. Just to be sure, I put the hdd in another computer and to my surprise, it seems to work (no unusual sounds and I managed to install Windows 7 on it).

I then thought the problem lied with the mobo or PSU. I popped in an old SATA drive I had lying around in the new computer and it boots up Windows XP.

What could be the problem? The mobo and hdd are the ones in Hazaro's system guide.

Have you tried running HD Tune or Crystal Disk Info on the drive to see if there's any problems with it (or any other SMART monitoring program)?

Any drive these days has a three year warranty, so worst case you just need to RMA it. The clicking could be triggered by certain sectors of the drive, and reinstalling Windows to new sectors may just temporarily mask the issue, or it may just be a loud drive. If there were problems, the SMART info would let you know.