Classic_Gs
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I have the XPS 7100, and yes the BIOS are quite limited and you cannot overclock. Processor can jump via Turbo Core but that is it.Toki767 said:
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brain_stew
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Dunno what was wrong with techpowerup's results but while its not the best at idle, its hardly poor and definitely does throttle down:
stew, I posted some noise readings last page. Basically, the Zotac card is really, really loud in idle as the fan doesn't seem to throttle. If the fan can truly not be throttled, I don't think it's really worth considering. 46dbA is extremely loud at idle.
Alright. Guess it may have been broken drivers or something.
brain_stew said:
Alright. Guess it may have been broken drivers or something.
brain_stew
Member
TheExodu5 said:
I saw them but they don't really coincide with Techreport's test, which is more recent, like a week or two old.
DrForester
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I always though that while GPU design could impact temperatures sound is mostly the concern of the company releasing the card and what cooling systems they put into it (ex. Ive read fantastic things about sapphire's Vapor-X on the 5800 series cards).
Here's the motherboard I chose:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131352
Anyone feel like another board might be a better choice?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131352
Anyone feel like another board might be a better choice?
Here is what I would get right now:
i7 980X EE
USB 3.0 compliant motherbard
24 GB DDR 2000Mhz
3xSLI 480GTX AMP, cause you need 2-3 for graphics and one for when PhysX aplies
128-256 GB SSD
2x2 TB HDD
Small nuclear powerplant
And no this is not at all a crazy build if you do more than game.
I would build this today but I will probably wait for new tech instead.
i7 980X EE
USB 3.0 compliant motherbard
24 GB DDR 2000Mhz
3xSLI 480GTX AMP, cause you need 2-3 for graphics and one for when PhysX aplies
128-256 GB SSD
2x2 TB HDD
Small nuclear powerplant
And no this is not at all a crazy build if you do more than game.
I would build this today but I will probably wait for new tech instead.
DennisK4 said:
He will only be gaming. He's not gonna be doing high-end digital effects work and stuff like that if that's what you mean. Just a dude with a hankering for a bad ass computer.
Makes my computer's penis feel small. I just dropped $400 dollars for my new system. :lol
brain_stew
Member
DennisK4 said:
I think a GTX 460 could suffice for the PhysX card! :lol
Intel Core i7-970 Gulftown 3.2GHz LGA 1366 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80613I7970
$899.99 $899.99
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
$229.99 -$10.00 Instant $439.98
Update20-233-129 Corsair Force CSSD-F160GBP2-BRKT 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$459.00 $459.00
ZOTAC AMP! ZT-40102-10P GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$519.99 $1,039.98
Western Digital Caviar Black WD10000LSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
$104.99 $104.99
ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
$359.99 $359.99
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ...
$279.99 -$50.00 Instant $229.99
Subtotal: $3,533.92
Ok, here's what I put together. No case right now because I'm going to consult him and see what he likes the look of. Same for the cooling.
Jesus fucking Christ. My sperm is coming as I come right now.
What do you guys think? Everything look good?
$899.99 $899.99
CORSAIR DOMINATOR 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMP6GX3M3A1600C8
$229.99 -$10.00 Instant $439.98
Update20-233-129 Corsair Force CSSD-F160GBP2-BRKT 2.5" 160GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
$459.00 $459.00
ZOTAC AMP! ZT-40102-10P GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
$519.99 $1,039.98
Western Digital Caviar Black WD10000LSRTL 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Hard Drive
$104.99 $104.99
ASUS Rampage II Extreme LGA 1366 Intel X58 ATX Intel Motherboard
$359.99 $359.99
CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-1000HX 1000W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active ...
$279.99 -$50.00 Instant $229.99
Subtotal: $3,533.92
Ok, here's what I put together. No case right now because I'm going to consult him and see what he likes the look of. Same for the cooling.
Jesus fucking Christ. My sperm is coming as I come right now.
What do you guys think? Everything look good?
brain_stew
Member
Eh, you might as well pay the extra $100 for the 980x to get an unlocked multi.
Might want to add a PhysX card, a 768MB GTX 460 should do the trick for under $200.
Does that SSD review well? I know the Crucial C300 drives are very highly regarded and you can get the 128GB version of that for under $300. Don't think you'd need an SSD much bigger than that, really. The 80GB INtel X25-M is worth considering as well and would probably be my first choice as its the most fool proof.
Might want to add a PhysX card, a 768MB GTX 460 should do the trick for under $200.
Does that SSD review well? I know the Crucial C300 drives are very highly regarded and you can get the 128GB version of that for under $300. Don't think you'd need an SSD much bigger than that, really. The 80GB INtel X25-M is worth considering as well and would probably be my first choice as its the most fool proof.
brain_stew
Member
DennisK4 said:
Sata6 is a must for a machine with an SSD as well.
DennisK4 said:
The RAM is 12GB. It's two of those kits. I'll take a look at the Rampage III Extreme. If you look at the pricing, anything that I selected two of will have double the price listed. The one I linked has 2x USB 3.0 ports but the faster possible HD transfer speed would probably be good.
brain_stew
Member
Aselith said:
Fixed. Don't buy a board without Sata6 if you plan to put an SSD in there.
brain_stew
Member
Aselith said:
Sata 6 is the connection you'll be using to connect your SSD to the motherboad, you want that link to support as much bandwidth as possible because SSDs are so damn quick. The question also is why the hell not? You're spending nearly $400 on a motherboard, so make damn sure you get a board that supports modern standards. You can get ~$100 boards wuth USB3 and SATA6 support so its asinine to buy a ~$400 board that doesn't.
brain_stew
Member
Aselith said:
I've not looked into high end boards enough to pickl a specific model. Stick with something from ASUS, Gigabyte or MSI and you should be fine, though. Make sure it has at least 3 full speed PCIe X16 slots.
Can i run 2 480's and a 260 for physx on this card all at the same time
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239562
not much experience with nvidia
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=239562
not much experience with nvidia
About to build a rig sometime before or shortly after the release of Portal 2 (2/9/11) and I just wanted to know if there are any expected official upgrades or updates to video cards,mobos, or cpus in the time between now and after the release of Portal 2(about March or April)?
Aselith said:
Very nice, You didn't fall into the 2000MHz RAM trap and 6GB will be fine for now. Seriously there isn't a consumer program on Earth that uses more than 6GB.
I agree, you might as well get the 980x it's WAY more overclockable.
YOU NEED A CPU COOLER! H50 man, it's great, I have one and it is a champ. Easy to set up because it's a closed sealed unit.
Also the Rampage Looks great but the Asus and the Gigabytes are better value.
hey guys, it seems everything is working now. I thought I'd run some random benchmark ( other than mafia 2 which seems to have problems with me ) to see if everything is performing as it should, just as I was going to take a screenshot the RE5 benchmark reset. So i'll just type the results instead
across all 4 scenes/stages the total avg fps was aprox 87-89
settings : 1080p, everything on high, no AA, no v-sync.
specs : x3 720 BEE, gtx 460, 4gb
Is that in the ballpark of what someone like me should be in ?
across all 4 scenes/stages the total avg fps was aprox 87-89
settings : 1080p, everything on high, no AA, no v-sync.
specs : x3 720 BEE, gtx 460, 4gb
Is that in the ballpark of what someone like me should be in ?
I just noticed that EVGA now has a non-EE 460 1GB on newegg, what does the EE designate? Is this the improved less noisy card?
Stew, you mentioned getting a Sata6 board if you are going to use an SSD, but doesn't the SSD need to be Sata6 compatible as well? I only found two SSDs on newegg that were Sata6 compatible.
Stew, you mentioned getting a Sata6 board if you are going to use an SSD, but doesn't the SSD need to be Sata6 compatible as well? I only found two SSDs on newegg that were Sata6 compatible.
Corky said:
That seems incredibly low....
My 4870 and e8400 @ 4ghz pulled off 69fps WITH 4xAA at 1200p.
Anyone else wanna chime in? I know the 5850 can get nearly 100fps with 8xAA at the same res, the 460 should be at least on par right?
edit: Only thing I can think of is that it's the CPU bottlenecking in some way? Though I doubt that at 1080p.
edit 2:
Oh snap, just remembered. The DX10 tests are for 3D vision if I recall, so performance is a lot lower than it'd usually be. Try the DX9 tests and see what you get!
TouchMyBox
Member
kinggroin said:
It's not low, it's just that RE5 is one of the few games that really prefer intel processors.
Minsc
Gold Member
Dynamic3 said:
Yea, a SATA 6gbps board will let you use 3gbps SSDs of course. There's a minor improvement doing it that way. If you get a 6gbps SSD, it will perform much better on a 6gbps SATA controller - around 0-30%+.
SATA II is 300MB/s and mechanical HDDs will basically never need SATA III because their access times are way too high (they really don't even need SATA II). SATA III is 600MB/s.
Here's a pretty good article comparing SSDs w/ one of the new 6Gbps SSD drives. The intel X-25M is outclassed now, but gets recommended so much still because of how popular it was.
toastyToast
Member
Hey PC GAF. I've been on a bit of a streak lately, I finally mustered up the courage to get into my PC and since then I've been looking for reasons to open it up.
Just today I bought an HIS HD5850 and it's working very well so far and it's shockingly quiet compared to my 8800GT. One thing that's troubling me is that it isn't performing quite as well as most reviews would indicate. I know that they aim to have the rest of the system of as high a quality as possible as not dampen the performance of the graphics card but from what I've seen my set up is still slightly off of a stock HD5850 (in a much better system of course).
This is my system. I'd take a picture but I'm ashamed of my cable
management.
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz
HIS HD5850 725/1000 (a bit more than stock I think)
4GB DDR2 800
A couple of HDDs
Is this to be expected or is there something genuinely wrong?
Just today I bought an HIS HD5850 and it's working very well so far and it's shockingly quiet compared to my 8800GT. One thing that's troubling me is that it isn't performing quite as well as most reviews would indicate. I know that they aim to have the rest of the system of as high a quality as possible as not dampen the performance of the graphics card but from what I've seen my set up is still slightly off of a stock HD5850 (in a much better system of course).
This is my system. I'd take a picture but I'm ashamed of my cable
mis
Q6600 @ 3.2GHz
HIS HD5850 725/1000 (a bit more than stock I think)
4GB DDR2 800
A couple of HDDs
Is this to be expected or is there something genuinely wrong?
Corky said:dang, I'll try the dx9 test I guess.
Reading back on the issue, it seems the DX10 problem only affected ATI hardware. It was sort of fixed with cat 9.9s.
I just ran the DX10 test on my phenom 940 3.6ghz and 5970 OC'd to 920/1125 - area 3 in DX10 has drops into the mid 40's. When I play in DX9, I'm in the high 70's, low 80's for that same scene. That's 1080p with 8xAA all settings high.
Run the benchmark with 8xAA btw. Your card should hold above 60fps no problem.
EDIT: Looking at benchmarks, your card just might be where it's supposed to be:
http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/video/display/nvidia-geforce-gtx-460_13.html#sect2
I guess the 5850's are just that much faster in this particular game
*shrug
Still, run DX9 and report back.
Got my scythe mugen 2 installed but have a question. The backplate looks like it sticks out pretty far that out might touch the case. I have everything tight and as flesh as I could get it. The insulated side of the backplate is against the mobo. Is this going to short the mobo?
kinggroin said:
cheers mate, just ran the dx9 test, got 100 fps avg no AA though , will run it again now with 8xAA and write back asap
EDIT :
Ok here's how it went
in both tests I was using the dx9 bench,1080p, no v-sync and no blur ; everything else on max.
no AA : 100fps
8xAA : 91fps.
Anybody care to interpret these numbers? Are they really extremely low?
Corky said:
Yeeeaaaah, MUCH better. And trust me, you arent missing anything visually between DX10 or 9. Just that DX10 will allow for 3D Vision to be utilised if you choose to.
Still, those DX10 numbers you originally posted looked right. Though I'd stick with DX9 and gain the overhead for some nice AA/AF on top.
EDIT: 91fps WITH 8xAA? That's GREAT! So you gained MUCH better IQ AND performance :lol
Just for fun, do the DX10 again, but with 8XAA, see what you get.
EDIT 2: Wait, no blur? Did you have blur disabled in DX10 as well? Go ahead and enable blur for both DX10 and 9. You want to stay consistent to get an honest look at your card's performance.
Felix Lighter
Member
Good to see everything seems to be working for you now Corky.
kinggroin said:
Well to recap, same old settings :
no AA : 100fps
8xAA no blur : 90 ( actually got 85 the 2nd time I ran the test, seem to get little different each time )
8xAA with blur : 75 fps
?
?:S?
Felix
Well I sure hope it works as its supposed to
, cant seem to find decent benchmark data to compare with, everybody seem to be running the benchmark differently. Sighbrain_stew
Member
Your benchmark results are fine Corky. 
Now quit running tests with tearing out the ass and re-enable triple buffering!
Think about it for a moment, at twice the resolution, with 4x the AA, 8x the texture filtering, and better quality shadows/texture/shaders compared to the 360 version, you're still getting nearly 3x the framerate. How is that not awesome!?
Edit: You might as well force SSAO through your drivers with performance that high, to make it look even better.
Now quit running tests with tearing out the ass and re-enable triple buffering!
Think about it for a moment, at twice the resolution, with 4x the AA, 8x the texture filtering, and better quality shadows/texture/shaders compared to the 360 version, you're still getting nearly 3x the framerate. How is that not awesome!?
Edit: You might as well force SSAO through your drivers with performance that high, to make it look even better.
kagete said:
I did originally. I mentioned before though the more I read up and became educated on this stuff the more I started thinking I should wait (new sockets from amd/intel etc). Also helps that Crysis 2 was pushed back until March 2011, and that is one of my most anticipated games (even though I haven't played the first
). This upcoming semester is also my last for my undergraduate degree, and what better self gift to myself than a fucking beast PC next year
It is very hard having the patience to wait though, the more I become educated in PC land the more I really don't want to play console games (besides Reach and sports titles).
:/
Only one NA distributor and they're in Canada. I've tried calling NCIX's customer service to verify if the shipping is flat rate everywhere in the US, but I'm constantly sent to voicemail (which reflects poorly on their part). One member mentioned paying $50, which, if it applies to all destinations, is hard to justify for an item that costs $100.abq said:
Newegg, Amazon, and company need to carry this case like yesterday.
Hi GAF, I'm looking for a wired keyboard. The thing is, All I see is cheap 5 keys and 60+ Isn't there any middle ground? I don't care about binding keys or small screens that I won't bother looking at. I just want a responsive and ergonomic keyboard that will allow me play my games without suffering any interference.
brain_stew said:Your benchmark results are fine Corky.
Now quit running tests with tearing out the ass and re-enable triple buffering!
Think about it for a moment, at twice the resolution, with 4x the AA, 8x the texture filtering, and better quality shadows/texture/shaders compared to the 360 version, you're still getting nearly 3x the framerate. How is that not awesome!?
Edit: You might as well force SSAO through your drivers with performance that high, to make it look even better.
hahah thanks man <3.
I agree, it's almost abit scary how amazing re5 looks and performs. I did something I haven't done in ages and that was putting my eyes within like 1 inch of my tv and then just gasping at the quality.
I knew the reward in the end would outweigh the minor, albeit for me confusing, problems that I've had.
The funny thing is that while playing the few games I've tried out now, it doesn't really feel like I've gone from one platform to another. I genuinely feel like I've gone from one generation to another in an instant.
It's bloody amazing
Get a standard Microsoft, Logitech or Cherry keyboard then. They all have basic models designed for offices and such that are very cheap, yet well built.fresquito said:
This one, for instance: http://www.microsoft.com/hardware/mouseandkeyboard/ProductDetails.aspx?pid=038
PjotrStroganov
Member
I use a Logitech UltraX black version. 15 euros over here.
toastyToast
Member
toasty_T said:
Running great now and I thought it was good before (with about 40W short) :lol
For comparisons sake with a 5850 RE5 8xAA with blur gave me an average of 97.9fps.
apocalidiot
Banned
Classic_Gs said:
Toki767 said:
Question: With these specs
PROCESSOR & GRAPHICS CARD AMD Phenom II X6 1055T + ATI Radeon HD 5870 1GB edit
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English edit
MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs edit
HARD DRIVE 1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache edit
OPTICAL DRIVE Blu-ray Disc (BD) Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD) edit
MONITOR No Monitor edit
SOUND CARD THX® TruStudio PC edit
SPEAKERS No speakers (Speakers are required to hear audio from your system) edit
KEYBOARD Dell Studio Consumer Multimedia Keyboard edit
MOUSE Dell Studio Optical Mouse edit
MODEM No Modem Option
The power supply is only 460 Watts. Would you guys recommend that I get a better PSU? If so, at least how many watts? And does any PSU work with any computer, or are there specific types?
/noob