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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

Intel shows "Sandy Bridge" CPU at 4.9GHz

Dan Warne16 September 2010, 8:49 AM (21 hours 34 minutes ago.)
Intel has demonstrated one of its new Sandy Bridge enthusiast desktop CPUs overclocked to 4.9GHz, with air-cooling only.

http://apcmag.com/Content.aspx?id=6203

During a benchmarking session for media today in San Francisco, Intel demonstrated a Sandy Bridge CPU (which will be released in about three months, officially named "Second generation Intel Core processor" but still following the current i3/i5/i7 naming scheme) running at an incredible 4.9GHz.

Even more impressively, the system was air-cooled only -- no liquid cooling in sight.

Intel requested that we not disclose the original speed of the CPU before overclocking, as it is yet to announce the speeds that Sandy Bridge CPUs will ship at.

During the demo, which you can see below, an Intel spokesman observes that the benchmark result in Cinebench is faster than a 12 core AMD Opteron


---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKsZ3wfK2M <---


Dan Warne is attending IDF San Francisco as a guest of Intel.



Intel Displays Overclocking Perormance Of K-series Sandy Bridge Processor

September 16th, 2010 by Jennifer

http://en.expreview.com/2010/09/16/...-of-k-series-sandy-bridge-processor/9757.html

Sandy_Bridge_System1.jpg


As for the limit for chipset integrated clocking,Intel Sandy Bridge processor can’t improve clocking.For the overclocking players,it is really regretful.And therefore,Intel is going to launch K-series Sandy Bridge.

Sandy_Bridge_System2.jpg


In the IDF 2010,Intel displays a set of system which adopts K-series Sandy Bridge processor.Though we are not sure the model of the processor,when we use the original cooler and increase some voltage,the Sandy Bridge can overclock to 4.9GHz.

Sandy_Bridge_System3.jpg
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In this overclocking platform,it includes original LGA1155 board,EVGA GeForce GTX 460 cards,Crucial Ballistix Tracer DDR3 memory,Anttec 1200W power supply and Cooler Master case.While the processor overclocked to 4.9GHz,in order to prove its stability,Intel ran Cinebench R11.5 for test,it is a pity that test result was not announced.

Sandy_Bridge_System5.jpg


Intel expressed that although Sandy Bridge processor can’t improve clocking greatly,it don’t stand for its low overclocking.The processor is quad-core,it is predicted that its market price won’t be over &#65505;300.
 
Corky said:
cheers buddy, will have a look at that.

Yeah, defintely check around tested.com ! It's one of Giant Bombs sister sites. They have other great articles about stuff. Even random stuff like how to make cold brew coffee. great stuff.
 
Vigilant Walrus said:
Yeah, defintely check around tested.com ! It's one of Giant Bombs sister sites. They have other great articles about stuff. Even random stuff like how to make cold brew coffee. great stuff.

I had a look at the video in question and everything seemed nice and all expect that I have one question.

When Will booted up the pc, installed windows, he didn't install the chipset drivers from a cd it seems but straight from the intel webpage. Is it possible to even connect to the internet without having installeed the chipset drivers?
 
·feist· said:
Solid parts, but the pricing is a bit off. I'm sure someone will tell you to swap the HDD for a Samsung F3, but the Caviar Blacks are great drives too. Though costlier than the F3s, they also have a longer warranty. Both are great choices. That i5 760 and XMS3 ram kit are both $20-30 overpriced. What's the story there? That dual channel kit is at triple channel prices, or about the same cost as "higher end" dual channel kits. As for the case, for just a bit more you'd be better off with something like an Antec 300 or Cooler Master Centurion 590. Your components will thank you.

While you can mix and match ram modules (when you're ready for an increase), it really is best to try and keep them all as uniform as possible. Getting the same exact ram is usually a good idea to avoid any potential headaches.

Yea, I might get a bigger case.

As per the prices, there is not much I can do. I need to get it built and NCIX has been suggested for that to me.
 
Wallach said:
That is a hardware fault. You running any OC? Could be just toeing the line of stability and it leaned a bit too far.

Generally what you'll want to look at first is temps and drivers aside from the memory test you're already planning. Make sure you're absolutely stable.

Thanks for the response. I'm not running any OC at all, and I have the system in the same configuration it has been in for quite some time. That's why it caught me by surprise and has me worried. I guess some part is deciding now is a good time to kick the bucket?

Any good ways to check drivers and overall system stability? I will run Memtest for sure, but I'm not sure of other ways to test exactly which part of the system is causing the error.
 
//B1G said:
FURMARK isn't made for a 64-bit OS, ATiTools came up with nothing, and the MSI shit just really told me about my temp.
How do I back it down?

Can I get some answers on this? It's really starting to scare me and I don't want my PC to asplode.

Story goes as follows:
After around 10 minutes of gaming, I start to get random blue, yellow, and green dots popping up around the screen like the soft round brush in Photoshop. Even in YouTube videos now I'll get really small pixels dancing around the video - but inside the video's frame only. This never used to happen, so I'm scared something's going on on me.

I've got a dual-core 2.66ghz processor OC'd to 3.2, and a 512mb 4850 overclocked to 1GB.
This is, I bought the setup like this. I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to this scene, and actually honestly don't have a clue. Can I get some help before my rig blows up and takes my left leg with it?
 
//B1G said:
Can I get some answers on this? It's really starting to scare me and I don't want my PC to asplode.
I'd start with setting the video card back to stock. If you're lucky it's been set in the Catalyst Control Center (CCC). Go into that, look for ATI Overdrive, and untick "Enable ATI Overdrive". The location of this varies with driver version, but here's some screens from what I assume is 10.8: http://www.online-tech-tips.com/computer-tips/use-ati-overdrive-to-overclock-your-radeon-video-card/
 
I thought that the 1155 socket was being abandoned or was that the 1366?

That misguided opinion might have saved me doing a full upgrade this year :lol
 
toasty_T said:
I thought that the 1155 socket was being abandoned or was that the 1366?

That misguided opinion might have saved me doing a full upgrade this year :lol

Socket 1156 and 1366 are both being abandoned. Sandy Bridge uses socket1155, which is not compatible with any older processors.
 
toasty_T said:
That misguided opinion might have saved me doing a full upgrade this year :lol
Whatever it was that lead you to that, it really seems to be the best route to have taken. Unless you were in dire need of a new PC, or just doing a relatively low-cost 1156/1366 build, waiting was/is a good idea. Of course, there is the whole issue of overclocking Intels upcoming chips, but we'll have to see how that plays out.
 
I hate upgrading just the CPU anyway. I like to buy a platform that will last me 3-4 years and upgrade the video card about halfway through. I don't think I'd ever bother hanging onto a three year old motherboard even if the socket does somehow last that long.
 
·feist· said:
Intel has demonstrated one of its new Sandy Bridge enthusiast desktop CPUs overclocked to 4.9GHz, with air-cooling only.

---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRKsZ3wfK2M <---

According to that youtube video you linked its running at 3.40GHz BEFORE overclock unless I'm blind. They talked about it being under NDA twice and to blur it out but there is a clear shot of it at the end unless I missed something... DAMN I'm glad I waited painfully with my Core2Duo setup for one of these!
 
So is 1155 going to be the consumer socket with an enthusiast equivalent to the 1366 (with SLI/Crossfire on the same board)? I don't really have any issues waiting as my current set up is still pretty decent. I spent the money I would have used on my audio set up so it still went in there in the end.

I'm think I heard some rumblings about overclocking the i5s and i7s but it worked out in the end. I really doubt Intel would place such a handicap with AMD putting out pretty good CPUs lately that provide pretty generous overclocking headroom. I'll be happy if I can something that can push past 4GHz.
 
New Build:

21b7rqf.jpg


Planning to get another set of the same 4GB RAM in the future to make it 8GB total.

I am willing to spend a few more dollars, if justified, so if someone seems something I can go for and it would be helpful, please say so.

Also, the RAM has a -25$ mail in rebate, so the actual cost is 81.xx

Thanks!!
 
Unknown Soldier said:
I wouldn't even dream of paying someone $48 to assemble a PC for me. Building the box yourself is half the fun of piecing together a new PC!

I just am really bad at these things. I have opened my laptop like 3 times and have already corked the screws and fucked it up :lol

hey atleast its not a Dell, which is what I have done till now.
 
Unknown Soldier said:
I wouldn't even dream of paying someone $48 to assemble a PC for me. Building the box yourself is half the fun of piecing together a new PC!

Something about putting it all together, hitting that power button, and having it fire up on the first try :D
 
Frostburn said:
According to that youtube video you linked its running at 3.40GHz BEFORE overclock unless I'm blind.
Yes.

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Frostburn said:
They talked about it being under NDA twice and to blur it out but there is a clear shot of it at the end unless I missed something... DAMN I'm glad I waited painfully with my Core2Duo setup for one of these!
Correct. Not the best idea when you want to be invited to future showings. I actually saved the video for reference, in case it gets taken down/edited.
 
//B1G said:
Can I get some answers on this? It's really starting to scare me and I don't want my PC to asplode.

Story goes as follows:
After around 10 minutes of gaming, I start to get random blue, yellow, and green dots popping up around the screen like the soft round brush in Photoshop. Even in YouTube videos now I'll get really small pixels dancing around the video - but inside the video's frame only. This never used to happen, so I'm scared something's going on on me.

I've got a dual-core 2.66ghz processor OC'd to 3.2, and a 512mb 4850 overclocked to 1Ghz.
This is, I bought the setup like this. I'm not too knowledgeable when it comes to this scene, and actually honestly don't have a clue. Can I get some help before my rig blows up and takes my left leg with it?
Use rivatuner or ATi's drivers to back down your core clock 50-100Mhz or so, and maybe 100-150Mhz on the memory.

No artifacts were found when you ran ATiTool?
·feist· said:
Whatever it was that lead you to that, it really seems to be the best route to have taken. Unless you were in dire need of a new PC, or just doing a relatively low-cost 1156/1366 build, waiting was/is a good idea. Of course, there is the whole issue of overclocking Intels upcoming chips, but we'll have to see how that plays out.
There's a more aggressive Turbo, but yeah...

If you want to overclock (e.g. raise the multiplier) you'll need to buy a "K" branded unlocked processor. Up to Intel to set the price gouging :/
 
rexor0717 said:
Think its worth it to wait for the new Intel CPU if my budget is only $1200? Same with the new GPUs I was hearing about in this thread?
You can always wait and get better performance. It's up to you how long that wait is. The AMD 6 series GPUs might be less than a month away, so that could be worth waiting for. The Intel CPUs on the other hand could be up to six months away (Q1 2011, so also as little as three months away). There is always new hardware coming out, and there is always a better deal a week after you bite the bullet. If you spent $1200 (assuming that's USD?) right now, you'd still get a damn nice machine.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
New Build:

http://i52.tinypic.com/21b7rqf.jpg

Planning to get another set of the same 4GB RAM in the future to make it 8GB total.

I am willing to spend a few more dollars, if justified, so if someone seems something I can go for and it would be helpful, please say so.

Also, the RAM has a -25$ mail in rebate, so the actual cost is 81.xx

Thanks!!
How did you get the correct i5 760 pricing (instead of the $30 extra that it was listed for before)? Did NCIX come to their senses and price match it for you? If so, see about getting that new case reduced as well. Amazon and Newegg both have it for $59.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119152&Tpk=Centurion 590
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A2JSA/?tag=neogaf0e-20


toasty_T said:
So is 1155 going to be the consumer socket with an enthusiast equivalent to the 1366 (with SLI/Crossfire on the same board)? I don't really have any issues waiting as my current set up is still pretty decent. I spent the money I would have used on my audio set up so it still went in there in the end.

I'm think I heard some rumblings about overclocking the i5s and i7s but it worked out in the end. I really doubt Intel would place such a handicap with AMD putting out pretty good CPUs lately that provide pretty generous overclocking headroom. I'll be happy if I can something that can push past 4GHz.
1155 is the new 1156 and socket 2011 will be replacing 1366 on the high end.
 
·feist· said:
How did you get the correct i5 760 pricing (instead of the $30 extra that it was listed for before)? Did NCIX come to their senses and price match it for you? If so, see about getting that new case reduced as well. Amazon and Newegg both have it for $59.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119152&Tpk=Centurion 590
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0015A2JSA/?tag=neogaf0e-20

No, it was just the way I added it to the cart. This time I added the processor alone and not as a combo deal because it has got a special savings on it that you don't get when you add it as a combo deal.

NCIXUS doesn't price match.

Any other suggestions on the build, or should I go ahead and bite the bullet?
 
Yes, upgrading a CPU almost always means upgrading a motherboard, which in turn could also mean upgrading your ram. So that one simple upgrade just became a 500 euro order.
 
Ok so it seems that installing motherboard drivers that you aquire online is the way to go over using the ones on the cd.

1) Stupid question : do I get my chipset drivers from gigabyte themselves or download something off support.intel.com ?

cheers.

I think I get my parts today *falls on knees* please work please work please work
 
Corky said:
Ok so it seems that installing motherboard drivers that you aquire online is the way to go over using the ones on the cd.

1) Stupid question : do I get my chipset drivers from gigabyte themselves or download something off support.intel.com ?

cheers.

I think I get my parts today *falls on knees* please work please work please work
Go directly to the source for the latest version, Gigabyte is okay but usually lags behind. Same goes for your gpu driver too, btw.
 
hey chryz

I checked the gigabyte website for the drivers for the motherboard. And they're all separe it seems, that is drivers for lan,chipset,sound etc.

Isn't there a allinclusive setup package? >_<

Gah I'm pc-handicapped
 
Grrr. My PC is dead. Trying to boot into Safe Mode doesn't even work and recovery console gives me a blue screen of death. So I think it's time to move on. This Gateway PC is almost 7-8 years old, and was my first purchase after getting a job out of college. Been giving me issues for a while now anyway.

Thing is, I don't know if I want to chance a build-it-myself adventure. I'd love to buy prebuilt, but I know I may wind up with some less than ideal components for my money. And bloatware up the waazoo.

I don't know if I have the patience to build something myself, but I may look at sites that build for you. If I can get something cheaper than a prebuilt system, awesome. But I doubt I will.

Guess it's time to start doing some research/homework. Blah.
 
Btw Chryz

Did your motherboard detect your ramsettings correctly ? Or did you have use manual timing and voltage?
 
Hi there,

I'm hoping you guys could help me decide on a new portable laptop. I plan to use the computer for:

word editing and coding
browsing
hd-movie playback
limited video and picture editing - I will use a stationary pc to do the heavy lifting
limited gaming - should be able to run stuff like counter strike (the old one)

I want the pc to:

small (14" screen is absolute max) - but not too small (10" is the lower edge ;))
have long battery life
have a good keyboard
hdmi out
e-sata out
ssd is preferred but if it doesn't come with the pc, then i'd likely just put one in later on
Fairly cheap


I've been eyeing the Dell Inspiron M101z, as it fulfills almost all my requirements (e-sata and ssd aside), but I can't figure out what kind of sound formats I can output through the HDMI port - can anyone help me figure this out? I would prefer to be able to output dolby, dts and stuff like that, and at least surround, so thats what I am hoping for :)

Are there any other options that I should check out within the price range of the m101z?

Btw, I live in Denmark so newegg and stuff like that is not an option :)
 
What do they mean by the Intel HD graphics? Are the mother boards coming with integrated graphics cards?

And I'd like to build a new PC (and get a new laptop) but AMD has processors and graphics while Intel has processors in the pipeline.
 
Corky said:
Btw Chryz

Did your motherboard detect your ramsettings correctly ? Or did you have use manual timing and voltage?
I had to do it manually, because my memory wasn't on Gigabyte's "memory support list". It wasn't really officially supported by any bios version. Gskills had the board on their compatibility list, so I wasn't too worried. Worked out fine, the manual setup took 10 seconds and the memory passed a few hours of Memtest86+ without any errors.
 
ChryZ said:
I had to do it manually, because my memory wasn't on Gigabyte's "memory support list". It wasn't really officially supported by any bios version. Gskills had the board on their compatibility list, so I wasn't too worried. Worked out fine, the manual setup took 10 seconds and the memory passed a few hours of Memtest86+ without any errors.

oh nice :)

So if I have to use manual settings, is it enough to use my 8-8-8-24 timings and 1.65 voltage? Or do I have to change some other advanced settings?

Sorry for all the questions, appreciate your help <3
 
Hey guys just wondering if anyone here knows much about UPSes (uninterrupted power supplies). Which brand is best (APC, Tripp Lite, Cyber Power) that sort of stuff.
 
Felix Lighter said:
When are the enthusiast Sandy Bridge CPUs supposed to be available? The last I heard was Q3 2011.

Correct, the second half of the year is when socket 2011 and presumably those octo-core sandy bridge cpus will be released, right about the same time as Bulldozer. Intel really hasn't said much about them.
 
Hey fellow Gaffers, I recently arrived back from my 4 year stint in the Navy, and it would seem i'm clueless about where hardware technology has progressed to, and i've noticed there are several newer unknown brands to me. I'm looking to build a gaming rig but also to use it for school, music, and various other things. I'd just like some advice or a friendly point in the direction i need to learn more or advice on parts. Thanks guys... oh and price really isn't an issue
 
Jin34 said:
Correct, the second half of the year is when socket 2011 and presumably those octo-core sandy bridge cpus will be released, right about the same time as Bulldozer. Intel really hasn't said much about them.

So are the mainstream processors' motherboards using integrated graphics or dedicated GPUs?
 
Spiderjericho said:
So are the mainstream processors' motherboards using integrated graphics or dedicated GPUs?

There are no integrated graphics on the motherboard, its on the same die as the cpu and they all have it.
 
Wow, so they are already abandoning 1366 socket? So that thing was only used for the first generation of i7s? Intel changes sockets too much.
 
Jin34 said:
There are no integrated graphics on the motherboard, its on the same die as the cpu and they all have it.

What's the benefit? And in order to send the signal and perform graphics processing, the motherboard would be communicating with the processor?
 
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