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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

evil solrac v3.0 said:
do you need the hyper threading? why not go for the i5-760 instead? save close to 90 Dollars.
Mr Nightman said:
Why not go with a gtx 460 thats priced around 165-200 dollar range, then you can get the ram.

You guys missed a significant point in my post, so here it is bolded:

grap3fruitman said:
Okay gang, I've got a budget of about $1,000 and here's what I've got picked out so far:

-i7-870 Processor $290
-GIGABYTE GA-P55A-UD3 Motherboard $140
-GIGABYTE GV-R5876P-2GD-B Radeon HD 5870 2GB Graphics Card (is this any good or should I be considering something else?) $450
-CORSAIR CMPSU-750HX 750W Modular PSU (should be fine, right?) $150
-Antec 300 Case $60

The problem is that I'm up to $1090 and still missing ram, which I can't find anything decent. I hate that the price of DDR3 ram shot up so much. Any thoughts or suggestions for this build?

I'm definitely getting the i7-870 and a better graphics card than a 5870 with 1GB of ram. I build my brother a computer last year with an i7-860 and a 1GB 5870 and I'm gonna give him a better CPU and GPU and take his current ones for my build since he does much more PC gaming than me.

Okay, ignoring price, how does this build look? Someone I know also suggested a 1536MB GTX 480 over the Radeon GB 5870. Which is better? The only benchmarks I've been able to find are the 1536GB GTX 480 versus a 1GB Radeon 5870, not against a 2GB Radeon 5870.
 
grap3fruitman said:
You guys missed a significant point in my post, so here it is bolded:



Okay, ignoring price, how does this build look? Someone I know also suggested a 1536MB GTX 480 over the Radeon GB 5870. Which is better? The only benchmarks I've been able to find are the 1536GB GTX 480 versus a 1GB Radeon 5870, not against a 2GB Radeon 5870.

I was just suggesting it since 450 bucks for a video card is crazyand plus I figured keeping the price under 1000 would help ya, it seems that a gtx 460 is more than enough power for most current games, my friend is playing bad company 2 at max with 8xAA with frame rates at 60. Your build is also very good.
 
^ Good info on Sandy Bridge. I'm going to be a thread here pretty soon on Sandy Bridge of which we can dove tail into the 2011 PC Gaming Thread. There's just too much about this processor to love in which I'll be laying that out.
 
I'm looking to get a netbook I can take with me on a trip to Japan next week. I'll be riding the rails around the country and want something to: A. entertain me on the trip B. let me look up things I need.

Hard drive space is not important. Processing power is important. HDMI-out would be nice to have, particularly if it can decode 1080p video. Somewhere under $500 would be good. Probably going to run linux, so the version of windows that comes with it is not that important.

Any recommendations?
 
Slavik81 said:
I'm looking to get a netbook I can take with me on a trip to Japan next week. I'll be riding the rails around the country and want something to: A. entertain me on the trip B. let me look up things I need.

Hard drive space is not important. Processing power is important. HDMI-out would be nice to have, particularly if it can decode 1080p video. Somewhere under $500 would be good. Probably going to run linux, so the version of windows that comes with it is not that important.

Any recommendations?
1215N is nice but the battery life is only 5-6 hours. Best notebook/netbook (if you will) for the money.

If you do value battery though, the Acer/Asus 10" offerings without Ion will be well under $400 bucks.

EDIT: Was thinking of my 1201N battery life, updated battery life since 1215N has optimus.
 
Pctx said:
^ Good info on Sandy Bridge. I'm going to be a thread here pretty soon on Sandy Bridge of which we can dove tail into the 2011 PC Gaming Thread. There's just too much about this processor to love in which I'll be laying that out.
Except for Intel's attempts at handcuffing system builders and enthusiasts. It will be very interesting to see what solutions the aftermarket is able to come up with.
 
So I'm looking at building a new computer from scratch. Want to be able to run any game at 1080p at a good framerate (prefereably 60fps). Here are the parts I've picked out, if anyone has any suggestions for changes I'd appreciate it.

Processor
Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-960 (3.20GHz) 4.8GTs/8MB Cache

Motherboard
ASUS® P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI

RAM
6GB KINGSTON HYPER-X TRI-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P

Graphics Card
1280MB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX470 GDDR5 PCI EXPRESS

Hard Disk
1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

Power Supply
CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUIET

Is this good enough? I'm mainly not sure about the graphics card as I haven't been keeping up with what's hot and what's not.
 
Pctx said:
1215N is nice but the battery life is only 3-4 hours. Best notebook/netbook (if you will) for the money.

If you do value battery though, the Acer/Asus 10" offerings without Ion will be well under $400 bucks.

I have a 1215N and the battery life is a solid 6 hours.
 
·feist· said:
Except for Intel's attempts at handcuffing system builders and enthusiasts. It will be very interesting to see what solutions the aftermarket is able to come up with.
Well having a friend at Intel is handy for some of the info I'll be posting... post NDA and such.

The most impressive to me is still the i5 segment especially in looking at gains between current i5 offerings and Sandy Bridge offerings.... just completely night and day.

Intel is still concerned with image/continuity for their products which is why they are handicapping the enthusiasts a bit. Hopefully that doesn't last.
 
Hey guys,

I'm turning to you for help in building a brand new PC. I used to be a hardcore PC gamer years ago, knowing everything about the best components and configurations .. but holy hell has time run me over. I'm trying to find out as much as I can about the new processors and everything, but so far it's a total information overload. If anyone can help me with suggestions, I'd really appreciate it.

Basically, I'd like to set up a configuration for photo/media editing, at least quad core (cause I'm guessing new tech will go more into more cores and less into higher frequencies territory), that could run today's games normally (gaming isn't a big emphasis), preferably something not using a kw of power and being as silent as possible, at least when idling/not very much in use.

A few specifics: it needs to have USB 3 support, needs to be SSD ready and I'd like it to have more emphasis on cpu's frequency (or a nice turboboost feature) then gfx power (I need meh some Dolphin love! :D).

So far I've been looking at an i7 950 (which might be a bit expensive), but I have no idea how AMD's cpus compare to Intel these days. My total budget for now is around 800€ (probably without a small and speedy for-the-OS-only SSD), but I'm guessing my wishes are a tiiiiny bit too optimistic for this amount. :P

Thanks to anyone willing to help me out with suggestions!
 
I'm buying a Roku for Netflix and such this month, and I figure I should replace my current Linksys 802.11g router for something with N, and ideally better range, since the room is pretty much the furthest in the house it can get. What router would be recommended? I'd really prefer to stay away from Linksys/Cisco if possible this time.
 
Baloonatic said:
So I'm looking at building a new computer from scratch. Want to be able to run any game at 1080p at a good framerate (prefereably 60fps). Here are the parts I've picked out, if anyone has any suggestions for changes I'd appreciate it.

Intel® Core™i7 Quad Core Processor i7-960 (3.20GHz) 4.8GTs/8MB Cache

ASUS® P6X58D-E: DDR3, USB 3.0, SATA 6.0GB/s, 3-Way SLI

6GB KINGSTON HYPER-X TRI-DDR3 1600MHz, X.M.P

GTX470 GDDR5 PCI EXPRESS

1TB WD CAVIAR BLACK WD1002FAEX, SATA 6 Gb/s, 64MB CACHE (7200rpm)

CORSAIR 650W PSU (TX650) 80+ ULTRA QUIET
Is this good enough? I'm mainly not sure about the graphics card as I haven't been keeping up with what's hot and what's not.
Drop 1366 for 1156. e.g. swap to an i5 unless you need SLi. A 460 will do very well at 1080p, if you want some more oomph a 470 can be found for a decent price on sale.
Anduril said:
Hey guys,

I'm turning to you for help in building a brand new PC. I used to be a hardcore PC gamer years ago, knowing everything about the best components and configurations .. but holy hell has time run me over. I'm trying to find out as much as I can about the new processors and everything, but so far it's a total information overload. If anyone can help me with suggestions, I'd really appreciate it.

Basically, I'd like to set up a configuration for photo/media editing, at least quad core (cause I'm guessing new tech will go more into more cores and less into higher frequencies territory), that could run today's games normally (gaming isn't a big emphasis), preferably something not using a kw of power and being as silent as possible, at least when idling/not very much in use.

A few specifics: it needs to have USB 3 support, needs to be SSD ready and I'd like it to have more emphasis on cpu's frequency (or a nice turboboost feature) then gfx power (I need meh some Dolphin love! :D).

So far I've been looking at an i7 950 (which might be a bit expensive), but I have no idea how AMD's cpus compare to Intel these days. My total budget for now is around 800€ (probably without a small and speedy for-the-OS-only SSD), but I'm guessing my wishes are a tiiiiny bit too optimistic for this amount. :P

Thanks to anyone willing to help me out with suggestions!
http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg + Intel


1)Basic Desktop Questions
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Gaming, Video editing, or just general usage
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Self Explanatory
 
Hazaro said:
Drop 1366 for 1156. e.g. swap to an i5 unless you need SLi. A 460 will do very well at 1080p, if you want some more oomph a 470 can be found for a decent price on sale.

So is an i5-760 ok? If there's a significant performance increase in the i7 then I might stick with it. But no, I'm not planning on going SLI.
 
1)Basic Desktop Questions
Budget: $800 US
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: Hopefully 1080P
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Starcraft 2 and other blizz games. Probably some FPS games such as the Call of Duty games

Thanks if anyone helps me with this!! It's for a friend.
 
Baloonatic said:
So is an i5-760 ok? If there's a significant performance increase in the i7 then I might stick with it. But no, I'm not planning on going SLI.
i7 is not significantly faster than i5. You end up paying more for the RAM, Mobo, and CPU. It's just not worth it for most.
eosos said:
1)Basic Desktop Questions
Budget: $800 US
Main Use: Gaming
Monitor Resolution: Hopefully 1080P
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Starcraft 2 and other blizz games. Probably some FPS games such as the Call of Duty games

Thanks if anyone helps me with this!! It's for a friend.
http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg

Swap in a HAF 912 / CM 310
Get a GTX 460 1GB for $200 on sale
HDD is $10 cheaper, PSU is $15 cheaper, add combos if you can to take off another $20
Get a nice P55 mobo for $110 or so
Stock cooler

Should shave off enough to get it close to budget. You can drop to a 768MB GTX 460 for cheaper as well.
 
Quick question - is it acceptable to use thermal glue to stick the memory heatsinks to the graphics card? The little shits keep falling off... it also doesn't help that a big copper pipe on my aftermarket cooler is crushing one of them.

Or should I just invest £5 in a new pack of these bad boys:

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Card is a 4890 btw, with an Accelero Twin Turbo on it.
 
I NEED SCISSORS said:
Quick question - is it acceptable to use thermal glue to stick the memory heatsinks to the graphics card? The little shits keep falling off... it also doesn't help that a big copper pipe on my aftermarket cooler is crushing one of them.

Or should I just invest £5 in a new pack of these bad boys:

Card is a 4890 btw, with an Accelero Twin Turbo on it.
Some thermal grease with a drop or two of super glue (mix them) is what I used.
 
I don't want to build my own, I would love to have had the experience, seriously but I'm frightened as SHIT I'll fuck it up, and 1k+ isn't the kind of thing I would want to screw with. But on the other hand there is no denying that once I have figured out how to self build, I would NEVER buy pre-assembled again, even from a site that lets you pick the pieces like AVAdirect. It would be a 'no turning back' kind of thing.

Getting my system made at AVA direct and shipped:

GRAND TOTAL: $1305.68


Getting my system pieced out from Newegg:

Grand Total: $1,180.69

And then there's a 20$ rebate that brings that to 1160.69. I mean Jesus. $145 is just 50 or so bucks away from getting that Intel SSD I want from Newegg lmao. But that's not even the worse part, I made a few small upgrades to my build using the Newegg version. Stepped up to a 1TB F3, got a slightly more expensive GPU, added a Coolermaster 212+ cooler etc etc.

Just the thought of trying to make sure I put the thermal paste on right, and make sure the CPU cooler has good contact to the chip, or whatever the hell makes my heart flutter. Wouldn't want to burn my shit up. Ive got three weeks to decide though.



Edit: Oh look......combo deals
 
Puncture said:
I don't want to build my own, I would love to have had the experience, seriously but I'm frightened as SHIT I'll fuck it up, and 1k+ isn't the kind of thing I would want to screw with. But on the other hand there is no denying that once I have figured out how to self build, I would NEVER buy pre-assembled again, even from a site that lets you pick the pieces like AVAdirect. It would be a 'no turning back' kind of thing.

Getting my system made at AVA direct and shipped:

GRAND TOTAL: $1305.68


Getting my system pieced out from Newegg:

Grand Total: $1,180.69

And then there's a 20$ rebate that brings that to 1160.69. I mean Jesus. $145 is just 50 or so bucks away from getting that Intel SSD I want from Newegg lmao. But that's not even the worse part, I made a few small upgrades to my build using the Newegg version. Stepped up to a 1TB F3, got a slightly more expensive GPU, added a Coolermaster 212+ cooler etc etc.

Just the thought of trying to make sure I put the thermal paste on right, and make sure the CPU cooler has good contact to the chip, or whatever the hell makes my heart flutter. Wouldn't want to burn my shit up. Ive got three weeks to decide though.



Edit: Oh look......combo deals

It's really not that hard to do the thermal paste. Plus, if you fry the CPU, which is very unlikely even if you're a complete newbie, you can just send it back.

The most difficult part of building a system is troubleshooting bad hardware (especially mobo and RAM). But the internets can be quite helpful.
 
Puncture said:
I don't want to build my own, I would love to have had the experience, seriously but I'm frightened as SHIT I'll fuck it up, and 1k+ isn't the kind of thing I would want to screw with. But on the other hand there is no denying that once I have figured out how to self build, I would NEVER buy pre-assembled again, even from a site that lets you pick the pieces like AVAdirect. It would be a 'no turning back' kind of thing.
http://vimeo.com/5685229

So easy. Computer parts are pretty damn durable. Just don't put it together on carpet while wearings socks.

Seriously there are so many safety features built it a computer will run and auto throttle itself if you even forget to put thermal paste on.
Open Source said:
It's really not that hard to do the thermal paste. Plus, if you fry the CPU, which is very unlikely even if you're a complete newbie, you can just send it back.
Any modern CPU will shut itself down before it burns itself out.
 
Puncture said:
I don't want to build my own, I would love to have had the experience, seriously but I'm frightened as SHIT I'll fuck it up, and 1k+ isn't the kind of thing I would want to screw with. But on the other hand there is no denying that once I have figured out how to self build, I would NEVER buy pre-assembled again, even from a site that lets you pick the pieces like AVAdirect. It would be a 'no turning back' kind of thing.

Getting my system made at AVA direct and shipped:

GRAND TOTAL: $1305.68


Getting my system pieced out from Newegg:

Grand Total: $1,180.69

And then there's a 20$ rebate that brings that to 1160.69. I mean Jesus. $145 is just 50 or so bucks away from getting that Intel SSD I want from Newegg lmao. But that's not even the worse part, I made a few small upgrades to my build using the Newegg version. Stepped up to a 1TB F3, got a slightly more expensive GPU, added a Coolermaster 212+ cooler etc etc.

Just the thought of trying to make sure I put the thermal paste on right, and make sure the CPU cooler has good contact to the chip, or whatever the hell makes my heart flutter. Wouldn't want to burn my shit up. Ive got three weeks to decide though.



Edit: Oh look......combo deals
Don't feed me this "Oh no what if I don't get the cooler on right?!?!" alarmist BS.

Back in the day AMD wouldn't even properly package their CPUs, so you'd be trying to mount a heatsink onto an actual exposed die and risked breaking the corner off of it or literally crushing it since the force necessary to close the lever was absurd.
 
teiresias said:
Don't feed me this "Oh no what if I don't get the cooler on right?!?!" alarmist BS.

Back in the day AMD wouldn't even properly package their CPUs, so you'd be trying to mount a heatsink onto an actual exposed die and risked breaking the corner off of it or literally crushing it since the force necessary to close the lever was absurd.
:lol
 
teiresias said:
Don't feed me this "Oh no what if I don't get the cooler on right?!?!" alarmist BS.

Back in the day AMD wouldn't even properly package their CPUs, so you'd be trying to mount a heatsink onto an actual exposed die and risked breaking the corner off of it or literally crushing it since the force necessary to close the lever was absurd.
Haha I do remember a chipped corner AMD CPU story on an internet forum. Odd thing is the CPU still worked for the guy.

And yea getting those heatsinks on was a pain. But I'd rather have those than the flimsy pushpin intel heatsinks we got now.
 
Puncture said:
Just the thought of trying to make sure I put the thermal paste on right, and make sure the CPU cooler has good contact to the chip, or whatever the hell makes my heart flutter. Wouldn't want to burn my shit up. Ive got three weeks to decide though.



Edit: Oh look......combo deals


If you're really that worried about the right pressure/contact for the heatsink, the Megahalems has a pretty awesome, secure setup that leaves no room for error. The thermal paste application is as easy as putting a dot in the center before you install it. I don't know what case you're getting, though, so I don't know if it'd fit in it.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...olimatech-megahalems-cpu-cooler-review-5.html

(ignore the parts where they talk about the faulty mounting holes, as that's an anomaly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn4U7I1r4V0 (it's not in English, but it shows how easy it is)
 
teiresias said:
Back in the day AMD wouldn't even properly package their CPUs, so you'd be trying to mount a heatsink onto an actual exposed die

What the shit. Thats crazy.

Clevinger said:
If you're really that worried about the right pressure/contact for the heatsink, the Megahalems has a pretty awesome, secure setup that leaves no room for error. The thermal paste application is as easy as putting a dot in the center before you install it. I don't know what case you're getting, though, so I don't know if it'd fit in it.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...olimatech-megahalems-cpu-cooler-review-5.html

(ignore the parts where they talk about the faulty mounting holes, as that's an anomaly)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jn4U7I1r4V0 (it's not in English, but it shows how easy it is)

Cooler Master 690 II Advanced.

And thanks for the vid. That coolers looks EXTREMELY easy to mount and completely idiot proof. How can I tell whether or not it will fit? Case dimensions?
 
Ordered my parts. Should hopefully come tomorrow! May not stick it all together until the weekend though.
 
Puncture said:
What the shit. Thats crazy.



Cooler Master 690 II Advanced.

And thanks for the vid. That coolers looks EXTREMELY easy to mount and completely idiot proof. How can I tell whether or not it will fit? Case dimensions?


http://www.mp3playernow.com/store/c...ce-atx-mid-tower-case-rc-692-kkn2.jsp?t=r&p=6

A review in the link above says the Megahalems fits in it. But I'm not really an expert on cases and their dimensions, so don't hold me to it.


Also, keep in mind that the Megahalems doesn't come with a fan. This is a good fan that balances power and loudness:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835705002&cm_re=rexus-_-35-705-002-_-Product

But if you want something quieter, a 120mm Scythe might be better.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...er=BESTMATCH&Description=scythe+120mm&x=0&y=0
 
teiresias said:
Don't feed me this "Oh no what if I don't get the cooler on right?!?!" alarmist BS.

Back in the day AMD wouldn't even properly package their CPUs, so you'd be trying to mount a heatsink onto an actual exposed die and risked breaking the corner off of it or literally crushing it since the force necessary to close the lever was absurd.

Thunderbird <3 First pc I assembled myself

Had a friend who tried to use a screwdriver in order to get the heatsink lip down, only to let it slip and carve a deep hole into his motherboard :lol :lol

pc building is way easier nowadays ;)

---

My CM 690 II fits a Scythe Mugen Rev 2 easily, so a Meghahalem shouldn't be an issue (optional top side fan is blocked but those shouldn't be necessary anyway)
 
Zaraki_Kenpachi said:
They are 2 8800GT in SLI.

I believe the 8800 series are heaving some reliability issues ... (google "8800 oven" )

best to test 'em out one by one, stressing them with something like Furmark
 
Hazaro said:
http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg + Intel


1)Basic Desktop Questions
Budget: Price Range + Country
Main Use: Gaming, Video editing, or just general usage
Monitor Resolution: What resolution will you be playing your games at? Are you going to upgrade later?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Self Explanatory
Thanks, Hazaro! That config should be posted in the OP, then you'd have less work. :P

Mine would be something like this:

Budget: ~800€, Europe, Slovenia
Main Use: General usage with some gaming and some photo/video editing
Monitor Resolution: I have a 24" 1080p monitor, so I guess at 1080p? Upgrading later .. preferably not, at least not in the next year.
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: the only one that I can remember: Deus Ex 3, maybe some Crysis/Crysis2?

I've been checking the recommended parts from the config .. is it possible that GA-P55-UD3L is different in the States than in EU? Every US store lists it as having USB 3.0 and none of the European stores mention it at all, only 12 USB 2.0 ports. /me confused
 
I advise against doing your first build alone. I built a new system this weekend and shiiiiiit that was very hard and I wasn't newbie, I've watched people doing it and I had a friend on Skype. It took me a day and a half to build it. All kind of unexpected shit happened during building - for example it took me about two hours to figure out how to take off the front panel from my new case to install DVD and HDD. And then after the last cable was connected, the system refused to boot because it wasn't able to detect HDD. Took me another 4 hours to figure out that I need to fix boot order in BIOS.

I've watched tons of videos on youtube, read all kind of manuals during the process. I want my weekend back but hey, at least I won't need to call some tech support to change CPU when I buy one.
 
subversus said:
I advise against doing your first build alone. I built a new system this weekend and shiiiiiit that was very hard and I wasn't newbie, I've watched people doing it and I had a friend on Skype. It took me a day and a half to build it. All kind of unexpected shit happened during building - for example it took me about two hours to figure out how to take off the front panel from my new case to install DVD and HDD. And then after the last cable was connected, the system refused to boot because it wasn't able to detect HDD. Took me another 4 hours to figure out that I need to fix boot order in BIOS.

I've watched tons of videos on youtube, read all kind of manuals during the process. I want my weekend back but hey, at least I won't need to call some tech support to change CPU when I buy one.
Yeah it can take a lot of time, much more than what some tutorials would suggest.

I did my first build less than a month ago, I was a complete newbie, before that I was considering a pre-built pc or (shamefully) a brand.

You're bound to make some silly mistakes at first (not pushing ram sticks all the way in was mine lol), but it was so satisfying in the end, best thing I've done all year. :D

Now that I look back at the process, it was relatively easy, really. I would strongly suggest all fellow noobs to build on their own.
 
BTW I have a question. I bought 2.1 speakers in addition to SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium and while I really like it I'm not sure if subwoofer works ok. I tried listening to it and I hear only quiet and very low bass rumbles. I feel it during gameplay but is it really supposed to be that quiet?
 
subversus said:
BTW I have a question. I bought 2.1 speakers in addition to SoundBlaster X-Fi Titanium and while I really like it I'm not sure if subwoofer works ok. I tried listening to it and I hear only quiet and very low bass rumbles. I feel it during gameplay but is it really supposed to be that quiet?

Well, most often you don't really hear a sub that much since it only takes the bass below ~100Hz. That said, tried cranking the volume on it up.
Also, what did you pay? There's a good chance the whole setup simply lacks, a friend of mine has a PC 4.1 and well... not that great.

@Sir Garbageman: 5.1 headsets are bad. 5.1 headsets for under $100 are terrible. Those 5 tiny drivers offer bad sound.
I'd recommend Sennheiser PC-161 but I had to mod mine because the wear comfort is so low (basically I taped the center of the head-cushion to give some space in the middle.). Other people have no problem with it though and the sound and speech quality is awesome.

After modding I simply love it and it's sub $100.
 
vazel said:
Haha I do remember a chipped corner AMD CPU story on an internet forum. Odd thing is the CPU still worked for the guy.

And yea getting those heatsinks off was a pain. But I'd rather have those than the flimsy pushpin intel heatsinks we got now.

Fixed that for you.

I'd like to think that there is no job regarding building computer that is too tough for me, but I could not for the life of me get those stock HSFs off the socket for the life of me. A couple times I scratched the tracings on the motherboard with a flathead screwdriver because of all the pressure I needed to take the damn things off. Luckily, those boards still work to this day. :lol
 
BotoxAgent said:
can you guys recommend me a good wireless keyboard and mouse for gaming?
wireless and gaming in the same sentence..... yeah.

My experience has been that no matter how fast the wireless, there is still input lag. Just my 2 cents.
 
Pctx said:
wireless and gaming in the same sentence..... yeah.

My experience has been that no matter how fast the wireless, there is still input lag. Just my 2 cents.

I guess you're right...I am using a wireless keyboard right now...and it's frustrating me...I am hoping there's anything better out there.
 
Pctx said:
wireless and gaming in the same sentence..... yeah.

My experience has been that no matter how fast the wireless, there is still input lag. Just my 2 cents.

but if PS3 and Xbox360 are both using wireless controllers (on a bluetooth-ish protocol) then quality PC input devices should be just as good right?

I never had issues with a premium Logitech cordless desktop set but at the time I wasn't playing FPS games with it ... (it's used on the htpc now and I'm using an 8 year old Logitech MX500 mouse on my gaming rig :lol )
 
BotoxAgent said:
can you guys recommend me a good wireless keyboard and mouse for gaming?

For comfy couch gaming?


Then the distance seems to be the deciding factor for a lag free signal. So if you're sitting a few meters away from your pc, there's always a chance that interference could occur. Even at a short distance, some mice seem to act up. I'm still deciding whether I am going the wireless route. Made a list a while ago of a few mice that seem to be okay to good for a reasonable price.

You could always connect the wireless receiver to a usb extension cord to gap the distance between your devices and your receiver.


But in the end, I wouldn't dare to make a recommendation.;)
 
n0n44m said:
but if PS3 and Xbox360 are both using wireless controllers (on a bluetooth-ish protocol) then quality PC input devices should be just as good right?

I never had issues with a premium Logitech cordless desktop set but at the time I wasn't playing FPS games with it ... (it's used on the htpc now and I'm using an 8 year old Logitech MX500 mouse on my gaming rig :lol )

Try playing TF2 or a twitch session of Quake Live on a wireless mouse and you'll see what I'm talking about.

botoxAgent said:
I guess you're right...I am using a wireless keyboard right now...and it's frustrating me...I am hoing there's anything better out there.

I guess I should back up a bit and ask what your application is.... are you sitting at a desk w/ a tower or is this for a couch setting?
 
Is there another app like Gigabyte's EasyTune that allows you to set system profiles(clock speeds, voltages). When I switch profiles in EasyTune it makes my system freeze.
 
THE:MILKMAN said:
Looking for a laptop for my brother. Budget is £600.

The only thing it must do is play warcraft well. Have spotted this sony vaio: http://www.johnlewis.com/230986908/Product.aspx

Is that about the best he'll get for £600?

To give you an idea, he currently has a pc with a e7200+4670 ultimate 512MB+2GB ram connected to a samsung 32" LCD tv.

Cheers.
With a Mobility 5470, that will be quite a bit slower than his desktop.

It will still run WoW though.
 
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