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LaserBuddha said:
bumpin' hoping for help.


My only worry is that the proc (Phenom II X6 1045T) isn't quite going to cut it for something like WoW.


I also configured this Studio XPS 8100 system, which might be better for what i need due to the processor:

PROCESSORS Intel® Core™ i5-760 processor(8MB Cache, 2.8GHz)
OPERATING SYSTEM Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium, 64Bit, English
MEMORY 8GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1333MHz - 4 DIMMs
MONITOR Dell ST2420L 24"W Full HD Monitor, 24.0 VIS, VGA Cable supplied only
VIDEO CARD ATI Radeon HD 5450 1GB DDR3
HARD DRIVE 1TB - 7200RPM, SATA 3.0Gb/s, 16MB Cache
OPTICAL DRIVE 16X DVD+/-RW Drive

Comes out to $1207.99 before my $75 employee purchase program discount. I would be upgrading the video cards in either machine at some point so those aren't a big concern for me right now. Same with the optical drive.

Check out the dell outlet. People were getting ridiculous deals on i7 8100s with the 20% off coupon that has been floating around.

Machines with I7 860s and 5770 and Blueray drives have been going for about $600 after coupon.

Someone on slickdeals got this for $503 after coupon/taxes.

"Studio XPS 8100 Desktop
nVidia GeForce GTX260 1792MB GDDR3
16X DVD +/- RW w/dbl layer write capability
500 GB SATA Hard Drive (7200 RPM)
3 GB DDR3 SDRAM 1333MHz (3 DIMMs)
Scratch & Dent
Processor: Intel Core i5-750 Processor (8MB Cache, 2.66GHz)
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium
 
Mr Nightman said:
This case has one, link and its only 69 dollars buddy had one said the removable tray was badass
And just like that...

I always think of the Sonata as a $40-60 case. Is it always sold as a ~$100 PSU combo?


Brazil said:
Damn. I just found out that I bought DDR3-2000 memories for my i7-960, and that it only supports up to 1066.

How the hell should I act now? :lol

Should I go back to the store and get DDR3-1066 memories? Should I OC my processor?
Brazil said:
So, this is what I'm planning on buying tomorrow:

Asus P6X58D-E MB
Intel Core i7-960 (the i7-960 actually costs less than the i7-950 in my local store :lol )
Sapphire Radeon HD 5970
Zalman CNPS9900 Cooler

Should I be fine with those?
Your motherboard supports up to DDR3 2000.

If anything, you could save some money and return the sticks for some good 1600 (or even 13333) memory.
 
Brazil said:
Damn. I just found out that I bought DDR3-2000 memories for my i7-960, and that it only supports up to 1066.

How the hell should I act now? :lol

Should I go back to the store and get DDR3-1066 memories? Should I OC my processor?

Faster memory will let you overclock more easily.
 
·feist· said:
Your motherboard supports up to DDR3 2000.

If anything, you could save some money and return the sticks for some good 1600 (or even 13333) memory.
Yeah, I already knew that the board supported DDR3-2000, but didn't know what the fact that the i7-960 doesn't would mean to my setup. Will they work like they would if they were DDR3-1066 memories if I install them?
 
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tltr: i had an hd 4890, they want to give me an hd 5830.

thoughts?
 
I'm helping a friend build a PC and his budget is $1,300 how is this:
1SAPPHIRE Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT) 100283L Video Card
Item #:N82E16814102858
Return Policy: VGA Standard Return Policy-$20.00 Instant
$15.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$169.99
$149.99
1OCZ Diesel 4GB USB 2.0 Flash Drive
Item #:N82E16820227331
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy-$8.00 Instant
$15.99
$7.99
1Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound
Item #:N82E16835100007
Return Policy: Consumable Item Refund Only Return Policy$9.99
1ZALMAN 9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
Item #:N82E16835118223
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy-$3.00 Instant
$52.99
$49.99
1Thermaltake Element V Black Edition VL200K1W2Z Black Computer Case
Item #:N82E16811133178
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy-$5.00 Instant
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$159.99
$154.99
1Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820220502
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy$25.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$139.99
1ASUS P7P55D-E Pro ATX Intel Motherboard
Item #:N82E16813131621
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy-$10.00 Instant
$189.99
$179.99
1Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
Item #:N82E16832116754
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy$99.99
1Intel Core i5-760 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor
Item #:N82E16819115067
Return Policy: CPU Replacement Only Return Policy$208.99
1Western Digital Caviar Black 1.5TB 3.5" SATA 3.0Gb/s Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136592
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy


CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
Item #: N82E16817139006
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy-$30.00 Instant
-$30.00 Combo
$20.00 Mail-in Rebate Card
$249.98
$189.98

He already has a monitor so I don't need to purchase that.
 
I read through the last couple pages and I see people saying that "new chips are right around the corner" .. what are you speaking of?

I was looking at an i7-950 build in a few months and will be picking up a 6870 in a couple weeks. Was planning on getting another one when I do the new build for Xfire.

Was planning on building this probably around 6-12 months from now but might be sooner if I start getting the upgrade itch :lol .

Is there something new coming up that I haven't read about?
 
Ulairi said:
I'm helping a friend build a PC and his budget is $1,300 how is this:


He already has a monitor so I don't need to purchase that.
Definitely change the video card. If it has to be sub $200, the first 6850s are showing up on newegg today. Otherwise the 6870 or the freshly price dropped GTX470 are good options. You don't really need a 750w PSU to run all of that, especially if you go for the 68xx cards since they don't use much power. Also you don't need the triple channel RAM since that CPU doesn't support it. 2x2GB is fine, but if you you're doing memory hungry non-gaming stuff a 2x4GB kit would be the other option.
 
flyinpiranha said:
I read through the last couple pages and I see people saying that "new chips are right around the corner" .. what are you speaking of?

I was looking at an i7-950 build in a few months and will be picking up a 6870 in a couple weeks. Was planning on getting another one when I do the new build for Xfire.

Was planning on building this probably around 6-12 months from now but might be sooner if I start getting the upgrade itch :lol .

Is there something new coming up that I haven't read about?
AMD
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23500710&postcount=15261
http://blogs.amd.com/work/2010/08/23/”bulldozer”-20-questions-round-one/


Intel
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23377351&postcount=14902
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23494522&postcount=15251
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=23657480&postcount=15750
 
Fredescu said:
Definitely change the video card. If it has to be sub $200, the first 6850s are showing up on newegg today. Otherwise the 6870 or the freshly price dropped GTX470 are good options. You don't really need a 750w PSU to run all of that, especially if you go for the 68xx cards since they don't use much power. Also you don't need the triple channel RAM since that CPU doesn't support it. 2x2GB is fine, but if you you're doing memory hungry non-gaming stuff a 2x4GB kit would be the other option.

I made those changes. He mainly just plays WoW and LoL so he should be golden with this rig for a couple years.
 
Tesseract said:
tltr: i had an hd 4890, they want to give me an hd 5830.

thoughts?
That's pretty close. If you want you can whine and complain and try to wring a 5850 or 6850 out of them.
Ulairi said:
I'm helping a friend build a PC and his budget is $1,300 how is this:

He already has a monitor so I don't need to purchase that.
Get an i5 system and a 6850/GTX 460 768MB. You can cut PSU down to 500W easy. A Corsair 450W/550W would be a great choice.

See: http://i.imgur.com/A55hA.jpg (Use i5 parts)
Save you $200 and keep 95% of the performance. 460/6850 obviously faster than 5770 of course
flyinpiranha said:
I read through the last couple pages and I see people saying that "new chips are right around the corner" .. what are you speaking of?

I was looking at an i7-950 build in a few months and will be picking up a 6870 in a couple weeks. Was planning on getting another one when I do the new build for Xfire.

Was planning on building this probably around 6-12 months from now but might be sooner if I start getting the upgrade itch :lol .

Is there something new coming up that I haven't read about?
Too often people say they want a new PC, then I make up something for them, and then they tell me they will buy it 3-12 months from now. Hurr. Don't do this. Please :(

feist got you covered anyway.
 
·feist· said:

Sweet, thanks!



Hazaro said:
Too often people say they want a new PC, then I make up something for them, and then they tell me they will buy it 3-12 months from now. Hurr. Don't do this. Please :(

feist got you covered anyway.

Yeah. I usually throw the pieces I want together and watch for specials on Newegg over a couple months. I do understand the "I'm waiting for a year lulz but make me a system now" thing is kind of ridiculous but I remember building my current system with pretty much parts I pegged around 4-6 months before hand. But if there is something new coming out close it might make the stuff I have marked have a price drop. Much like how I'm glad I didn't jump on a 460 now and will get the 6870 instead.
 
flyinpiranha said:
Much like how I'm glad I didn't jump on a 460 now and will get the 6870 instead.
I'd prefer the 6850 since it's more value, but if you need the boost to a 6870 you are welcome to get it. Not worth $50 more to me.
 
Is the Phenom II 940 still pretty viable? My brother is looking for an economy-style build (around $600 total) and the OEM PII 940 looks like a pretty solid value on Newegg at $100. Will pair it up with one of the 6850s. Thoughts?
 
Hazaro said:
I'd prefer the 6850 since it's more value, but if you need the boost to a 6870 you are welcome to get it. Not worth $50 more to me.

It's going to last for a year and then get Xfire'd with another one. I don't think $50 is that big of a deal to be honest.
 
letsbereasonable said:
Is the Phenom II 940 still pretty viable? My brother is looking for an economy-style build (around $600 total) and the OEM PII 940 looks like a pretty solid value on Newegg at $100. Will pair it up with one of the 6850s. Thoughts?
Swap it in.
http://i36.tinypic.com/33ubz2q.jpg

Looks good to me.
flyinpiranha said:
It's going to last for a year and then get Xfire'd with another one. I don't think $50 is that big of a deal to be honest.
Well they both seem to cap around 950/1Ghz on the OC so you are going to be paying 33% more for a 10% boost. It's not a good return, that's all.
 
Hazaro said:
I was going to comment on getting an i5 rig, but then I say you had 2x GTX 480. :lol

Buying high end right now is not what I'd do. 2 new chipsets around the corner and little to no upgrade path on your current socket. Dual 480's will suck power like mad and with AMD releasing their new flagship card and nVidia making a response I'd definitely wait it out.

Will be a few months though. So it's up to you.
Bleh - i was afraid some one would say something like this :lol

Although i have never been one for upgrading a PC, i usually just wait a few years and do a complete rebuild - so it wouldnt really bother me if i couldnt upgrade it when the new chipsets are released.
But what would bother is if these new chipsets are a huge step-up from the current ones - then it will seem a waste to spend this amount of money to be so far behind in a few months.

But im not sure i can wait a few months to get my new PC - I might build a cheaper alternative & then upgrade again in a year.
 
Adamm said:
Bleh - i was afraid some one would say something like this :lol

Although i have never been one for upgrading a PC, i usually just wait a few years and do a complete rebuild - so it wouldnt really bother me if i couldnt upgrade it when the new chipsets are released.
But what would bother is if these new chipsets are a huge step-up from the current ones - then it will seem a waste to spend this amount of money to be so far behind in a few months.

But im not sure i can wait a few months to get my new PC - I might build a cheaper alternative & then upgrade again in a year.

If you don't care about an updgrade path the major change to chipset upcoming is the inclusion of USB3 and SATA3. Both can be found on current motherboards with sparing amont of ports since the motherboard manufacturers have just been piece-mealing these things on. The motherboard on your list has 2 USB3 and 2 SATA3 connections on them.

Rumours state the GTX 580 might show up late November or earler Decemeber.
 
my new baby that i just ordered :D

- Intel Core i7 950 3.06GHz overclocked to 4.00GHz
- 6GB of 1600MHz DDR3 Triple Channel memory allows faster loading of games and better multi-tasking
- Case: Xigmatek Asgard Midi Tower - Black
- Power Supply: Corsair Extreme 600W
- Motherboard: Asus P6X58D-E Intel X58 (Socket 1366) DDR3 Motherboard
- Cooler: Xigmatek Dark Knight CPU Cooler
- RAM: Kingston HyperX 6GB (3x2GB) DDR3 PC3-12800C8 (1600MHz) Tri-Channel
- Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 500GB SATA 3Gb/s 16MB Cache
- Graphics Card: 1280mb nvidia GTX 470 GDDR5
- Sound: 7.1 Channel Sound (On-Board)
- Optical Drive: LG DVD+/-RW SATA Drive
 
Greetings, GAF. I have a 4870 1gb and was thinking about maybe picking up another one second hand for Crossfire ($80 or $90). Would this be worthwhile? I don't know how mature CF drivers are.

Or should I just hold out and maybe upgrade to a DX11 card later? I play at 1920x1200 and I have an e8500 at 4Ghz.

Thanks.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
Hey guys, I want some monitor recommendations.

Preferrably, 23-24", around 200$.


I bought this on sale a while back, and I really couldn't be happier with it. Looks great with everything I put on it.

It has all the inputs I need (VGA, DVI, HDMI) and the 2048X1152 resolution is very nice.
 
Just got my Asus UL30VT, holy crap it's speedy as fuck. Just charged it and going to check if the 10hr battery life holds up as they say.

Looks great. Mostly plastic, but it's clean, keyboard looks good too, types good as well, would definitely recommend this laptop to anyone looking for a sub 15" laptop for people who still want a somewhat proper CPU and GPU on a budget.

Got it for 500e on amazon.de, specs:

13.3" Led backlit 1366x768
Intel C2D SU7300
Intel GMA 4500MHD + NVIDIA G210M (freely and automatically switchable, like optimus)
4GB DDR3
320GB HD
8-Cell 5600mAh battery

So lucky that I found this, was pondering to get the Asus EEEpc 1215N before, but held off because the Atom is just really... really shitty, not to mention the PCIe 1x limitation, but it was the best sub 15.6" CPU/GPU compromise I could get for under 500e. Very glad I did.
 
I just went ballistic on Newegg. I mean, literally, ape shit crazy.

I added this 6870 to my cart as part of a complete PC build. I then added the cpu/motherboard, ok, kept adding items.. and all of a sudden it tells me that "Item N82E16814121401 has been removed from your cart due to insufficient quantity". In other words, some cocksucker checked out with my video card in my cart, and Newegg's software let them do it.

I sent them a pretty horrible e-mail. They had better make good. This is like some asshole just walking by my shopping cart and taking something that happened to be the last one in the entire store. I don't think I've ever been so pissed at a retailer before.
 
msv said:
Just got my Asus UL30VT, holy crap it's speedy as fuck. Just charged it and going to check if the 10hr battery life holds up as they say.

Looks great. Mostly plastic, but it's clean, keyboard looks good too, types good as well, would definitely recommend this laptop to anyone looking for a sub 15" laptop for people who still want a somewhat proper CPU and GPU on a budget.
Good to hear that you are liking it. I was eyeing the same model and its derivatives but is there anything else coming down the pike technology wise for ultraportables within the next few months? Looking for something with excellent battery life and portability that can still do a bit of modest 3D gaming on the go.

Also, is there a proper difference between notebooks with Optimus and those with a simple GPU toggle? Or is just a marketing term? i.e. no practical difference
 
MoFuzz said:
Good to hear that you are liking it. I was eyeing the same model and its derivatives but is there anything else coming down the pike technology wise for ultraportables within the next few months? Looking for something with excellent battery life and portability that can still do a bit of modest 3D gaming on the go.
Battery life is insane, W7 said I had 10+hrs on a full battery, I just did a little surfing on wifi though. After I started SC2 (medium settings, think i got round 30fps eyeing it, anyways twas smooth), battery time went down to 4, then 3 hours :P. I put the power settings on max though, I think it overclocks the CPU then.

The new mobile platforms from AMD and Intel are coming out around februari I believe.

Also, is there a proper difference between notebooks with Optimus and those with a simple GPU toggle? Or is just a marketing term? i.e. no practical difference
Optimus just means it's on an ION (so an Atom :/). It switches automatically, but I think my UL30VT does it too.
 
Cheech said:
I just went ballistic on Newegg. I mean, literally, ape shit crazy.

I added this 6870 to my cart as part of a complete PC build. I then added the cpu/motherboard, ok, kept adding items.. and all of a sudden it tells me that "Item N82E16814121401 has been removed from your cart due to insufficient quantity". In other words, some cocksucker checked out with my video card in my cart, and Newegg's software let them do it.

I sent them a pretty horrible e-mail. They had better make good. This is like some asshole just walking by my shopping cart and taking something that happened to be the last one in the entire store. I don't think I've ever been so pissed at a retailer before.


A cart doesn't mean you bought it. I'd be pissed because I wanted a card that was in some other persons cart that had no intention of buying but was just making a dream build.
 
Fuuuu I'm pretty sure my new PSU (Corsair 850HX) is dead. Put my rig together yesterday and was running fine stock. Then I began overclocking (i7-950) and finally got it semi stable @ 4GHz. I kept getting this blue error screen at higher clocks (4.2GHz) when I ran prime95 for about 30-40mins.

So this morning I tried turning it on and nothing! The power light on the mobo(asus p6x58d-e) was red and I even took out all the ram to see if it was my ram/processor/something else. Nothing, not boot, no speaker sound. Luckily I had a backup 650TX PSU and hooked that one up instead. Booted on first try. Been a hectic day haha. Thinking of checking the 850HX once more and if no luck then RMA. Not looking forward to rma wait.

Edit: Also having trouble running my corsair xms3 ddr3 2000 at 2000Hz speed. I even tried the XMS profile but it wouldn't boot once set to 2000. My dram voltage is at 1.6 I believe...should I increase that? If anyone knows what specs/voltages I should put in the bios please let me know, thanks. :)

Here are some recent test pics:
5106053444_42200dcde1_b.jpg

5106053438_74d0e91034_b.jpg


Max temp under full load so far is 78 under prime95 (running an hour now) *knocks on wood*
Using Noctua nh-d14 cpu cooler.
 
Someone at Nvidia has lost their fucking mind.

Why is the GT 445M, a GF108 mobile chip with 144 shaders, shipping with 3GB of video RAM?

And then they priced themselves out of the high-end market, by shipping the GF104 based GTX 470M at essentially ~$800. It comes from the GTX 460, ffs.

It's like they don't realize that AMD has already taken the majority market share, and this type of idiocy over flew when you had an 80% plus stranglehold.

The Mobility 6000 is going to murder Nvidia. It's like they've realized this, and already waived the white flag on the mobile side of things.
 
K.Jack said:
Someone at Nvidia has lost their fucking mind.

Why is the GT 445M, a GF108 mobile chip with 144 shaders, shipping with 3GB of video RAM?

And then they priced themselves out of the high-end market, by shipping the GF104 based GTX 470M at essentially ~$800. It comes from the GTX 460, ffs.

It's like they don't realize that AMD has already taken the majority market share, and this type of idiocy over flew when you had an 80% plus stranglehold.

The Mobility 6000 is going to murder Nvidia. It's like they've realized this, and already waived the white flag on the mobile side of things.
Huh. Link?
 
K.Jack said:
Someone at Nvidia has lost their fucking mind.

Why is the GT 445M, a GF108 mobile chip with 144 shaders, shipping with 3GB of video RAM?

And then they priced themselves out of the high-end market, by shipping the GF104 based GTX 470M at essentially ~$800. It comes from the GTX 460, ffs.

It's like they don't realize that AMD has already taken the majority market share, and this type of idiocy over flew when you had an 80% plus stranglehold.

The Mobility 6000 is going to murder Nvidia. It's like they've realized this, and already waived the white flag on the mobile side of things.

I don't think the mobile parts technically ship with any "memory" do they, because they're not usually separate cards like a retail or oem full-size graphics board is. The cores get integrated onto boards or motherboards in the laptop and the OEM can decide what memory to hook up to it and whether it will get its own dedicated memory or share memory with the processor, right? Are you sure you're not reading one of those specs where the graphics shares the system RAM and the full system has 3GB of RAM?

[EDIT] You must be talking about one of the Dell XPS laptops that gives the 3GB GT 445m option, but still, does Nvidia sell these with a specific amount of memory, or are they just in the business - on the mobile end - of the selling the GPU cores sans memory to oem vendors?
 
So I saw the 6850 benchmarks, and said screw the shuttle case, Im just gonna build a regular PC.

One question, what would be better in the long run, an X6 chip or and i5/i7? Im leaving towards the X6 because at the moment, I could pick up a X4 640 with a free mobo at microcenter and then later on when needed, could upgrade to the X6.

Also, how big of a power supply should I be looking for to power either an X6 or i5 plus the 6850?

Any advice?
 
So, I'm having some issues building my new PC. It's all put together and looks to be running fine, but everytime I try to install windows 7 from a bootable usb (didn't put an optical drive on the tower since I never use discs on it, and if I ever need a disc I can use my laptop) it blue screens on me. I'm running memtest86+ right now to see what's up, but was wondering if anyone potentially had solutions to my problem?

My motherboard is h55m-s and my processor is an i3. I hope this isn't too frowned upon to ask in here =(
 
opticalmace said:
Greetings, GAF. I have a 4870 1gb and was thinking about maybe picking up another one second hand for Crossfire ($80 or $90). Would this be worthwhile? I don't know how mature CF drivers are.

Or should I just hold out and maybe upgrade to a DX11 card later? I play at 1920x1200 and I have an e8500 at 4Ghz.

Thanks.
Can I bump this for input? I would sort of like to make a decision tonight. Thanks!
 
teiresias said:
I don't think the mobile parts technically ship with any "memory" do they, because they're not usually separate cards like a retail or oem full-size graphics board is. The cores get integrated onto boards or motherboards in the laptop and the OEM can decide what memory to hook up to it and whether it will get its own dedicated memory or share memory with the processor, right? Are you sure you're not reading one of those specs where the graphics shares the system RAM and the full system has 3GB of RAM?

[EDIT] You must be talking about one of the Dell XPS laptops that gives the 3GB GT 445m option, but still, does Nvidia sell these with a specific amount of memory, or are they just in the business - on the mobile end - of the selling the GPU cores sans memory to oem vendors?
The vast majority of discreet mobile GPUs are no longer proprietary. There's what is called the MXM format.


For example, the GPU on the left is installed in my notebook:

260-280.jpg


Nvidia decides how much memory is in the available configs.


So far, 400M has been:

(GF100) GTX 480M 2GB <- GTX 465 based
(GF104) GTX 470M 1.5GB <- GTX 460 based
(GF106) GTX 460M 1.5GB
(GF106) GT 445M 3GB
[GF108) GT 435M 2GB
(GF108) GT 425M 1GB

Why mobile GPUs are shipping with more memory than their desktop counterparts, I don't understand.
 
exfixate said:
I bought xURL="http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=320-7641"]this [/URL]on sale a while back, and I really couldn't be happier with it. Looks great with everything I put on it.

It has all the inputs I need (VGA, DVI, HDMI) and the 2048X1152 resolution is very nice.

I only want 1920x1080 max and native. Any other suggestions?
 
hey GAF - waiting on another paycheck or two to get my SG07 paid off! Cyberpower just added the new ATI's, so what do you guys think is the best option for AAA PC title/dolphin & PCSX2 emulation? keep in mind the SFF case; im gonna overclock the CPU so im hoping to keep temperatures low/reasonable...here's their options:


NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 1GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by Nvidia) [$203]
AMD Radeon HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD) [$170]
AMD Radeon HD 6870 1GB GDDR5 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by AMD) [$241]

looking at GAF's benchmarks thread, the 6850 looks to outperform/run less power than the 460, and either of them can be overclocked later if need be, i believe. what do you guys think?
 
asdad123 said:
So I saw the 6850 benchmarks, and said screw the shuttle case, Im just gonna build a regular PC.

One question, what would be better in the long run, an X6 chip or and i5/i7? Im leaving towards the X6 because at the moment, I could pick up a X4 640 with a free mobo at microcenter and then later on when needed, could upgrade to the X6.

Also, how big of a power supply should I be looking for to power either an X6 or i5 plus the 6850?

Any advice?
I'd go i5 and get the net revision of new socket chips when they some out if you need to upgrade.
Happy Phantom said:
So, I'm having some issues building my new PC. It's all put together and looks to be running fine, but everytime I try to install windows 7 from a bootable usb (didn't put an optical drive on the tower since I never use discs on it, and if I ever need a disc I can use my laptop) it blue screens on me. I'm running memtest86+ right now to see what's up, but was wondering if anyone potentially had solutions to my problem?

My motherboard is h55m-s and my processor is an i3. I hope this isn't too frowned upon to ask in here =(
Keep trying to install if possible. I know some Win 7 installs don't go over too well. Otherwise I dunno.
opticalmace said:
Can I bump this for input? I would sort of like to make a decision tonight. Thanks!
Dual GPUs in the $100-$150 range are great value.
If you have the PSU go for it. An alternative is to get a 6850 and run that. Not quite the boost, but usually you'll have less problems and it'll use a lot less power.
 
Kaako said:
Fuuuu I'm pretty sure my new PSU (Corsair 850HX) is dead. Put my rig together yesterday and was running fine stock. Then I began overclocking (i7-950) and finally got it semi stable @ 4GHz. I kept getting this blue error screen at higher clocks (4.2GHz) when I ran prime95 for about 30-40mins.

So this morning I tried turning it on and nothing! The power light on the mobo(asus p6x58d-e) was red and I even took out all the ram to see if it was my ram/processor/something else. Nothing, not boot, no speaker sound. Luckily I had a backup 650TX PSU and hooked that one up instead. Booted on first try. Been a hectic day haha. Thinking of checking the 850HX once more and if no luck then RMA. Not looking forward to rma wait.

Edit: Also having trouble running my corsair xms3 ddr3 2000 at 2000Hz speed. I even tried the XMS profile but it wouldn't boot once set to 2000. My dram voltage is at 1.6 I believe...should I increase that? If anyone knows what specs/voltages I should put in the bios please let me know, thanks. :)

Here are some recent test pics:

Max temp under full load so far is 78 under prime95 (running an hour now) *knocks on wood*
Using Noctua nh-d14 cpu cooler.

That is a nice round figure overclock you gotten, no point wasting time running 2000hz ram, i7 imc not very strong, wait for sandy bridge with improved imc to run 2000hz ram. Now is to spend time stablising the overclock and lowering the voltage for best idle use.
 
Hazaro said:
Dual GPUs in the $100-$150 range are great value.
If you have the PSU go for it. An alternative is to get a 6850 and run that. Not quite the boost, but usually you'll have less problems and it'll use a lot less power.
Thanks, I think I'm going to go for it. I'm buying it used for $85 CAD. I have a Corsair TX750 and my cpu is an e8500 @ 4GHz, so I think I should be fine for power. This should be a good way to hold me over for at least another year or so.

Thanks!
 
Milpool said:
Hurray

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Been floppin' n twitchin' since the 460 died, now it's time to game.


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:( Where did you get yours? A local shop? Newegg isn't getting mine here until Tuesday. OTOH I'm not even ordering the rest of the parts for my build until Friday of next week anyway so.... :lol :lol :lol I just didn't want to run into a sold out situation. Also sometimes when they sell so fast retailers start selling above msrp. Forget that!
 
longdi said:
That is a nice round figure overclock you gotten, no point wasting time running 2000hz ram, i7 imc not very strong, wait for sandy bridge with improved imc to run 2000hz ram. Now is to spend time stablising the overclock and lowering the voltage for best idle use.
I see, thanks for the reply. So try to keep voltages as low as possible and maintain a stable system. I'll try to post my current voltage list here and see what you guys think.
Also, my corsair 850HX PSU definitely is dead(rma'd). Tried reconnecting it again and no go; lucky I have a 650TX backup for now.
 
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