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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

MikeE21286 said:
Just got this in my email:

TigerDirect Black Friday sale

EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE, 1GB GDDR5, PCIe, Mini HDMI - $139.99 after MIR

there's some other things out there that might be good, that's the first thing that jumped out.
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That is not a good deal.
The 768MB GTX 460 is a better card and is available from a few different brands for $115 after rebate.
 
I will quote myself to lay it out what problem I had.

kittoo said:
Guys I have been facing this strange problem with my GTX 470. As soon as I boot up a game (or a HD movie), my computer locks up. I can hear sounds in the background but cant move the mouse or anything, only a reboot is the solution. I cant play any games! Initially I thought that the problem was in my CPU or something. But I stressed my CPU and computer remained stable. In the end it seems that graphic card hangs whenever its under load. Is replacement only solution? I bought it from Amazon and I dont live in US so I would like to try all other solutions before RMAing. Help!
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Now, I updated drivers and booted the PC. Strangely, this time the game ran for about 2-3 minutes before freezing up again. Tried again and same result. Then, I booted the Windows Assessment utility (Windows Experience Index). I was sure that the PC will freeze again as the utility does all 2D and 3D checks but no! It went fine! The scores were also the same as earlier! WTH is going on? I cant play games or watch movies cause the load on graphics card makes the PC lock up, but I can run Windows assessment and it runs like a charm! WTH? Any suggestions guys?
 
MikeE21286 said:
Just got this in my email:

TigerDirect Black Friday sale

EVGA GeForce GTX 460 SE, 1GB GDDR5, PCIe, Mini HDMI - $139.99 after MIR

there's some other things out there that might be good, that's the first thing that jumped out.
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Don't let the 1GB buffer fool you, it's a gibbled SE GTX 460. nVidia can be such a pain in the ass.

Ashhong said:
FUCK. i was just about to buy that 160$ AMD combo and the goddamn motherboard went out of stock.

Can someone point me to a mobo/CPU deal that is similar?

it was this processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103656

with this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131647
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That's a terrible feeling. It's ok though, I jumped on some deals last week and they got even cheaper this weekend. No one has perfect timing :(
 
Next best thing I'm seeing is with the Phenom II X3 740 again. Just a triple core though but might be able to unlock the 4th core and it's a black edition so better overclocking. Doesn't come with a cooler, is the OEM version. Priced about the same as the other combo.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.543296

I'm still looking through the combos. If nothing better pops up on the X3 for some of you looking for barebones stuff it wouldn't hurt to look at the X2 athlons with a budget mATX board for I dunno, 120-130$?

This combo is 10$ cheaper, another MIR on top of that

I'm start to get pretty damn sick of all these MIR showing up on these sites now. NCIX used to be the worst now they're all doing it.

This 129$ combo with an AsRock ATX board is starting to grow on me. It doesn't have SATA3 and only has 1 USB3 port but at that price it's hard to complain. And realistically for a barebones PC it's not likely your parents will be wanting to rock out 400$ SSDs that will actually use SATA3. The 1 USB3 port sucks but at least you have the one port for transferring to/from cameras when they need it. It can unlock cores and has at least some overclocking abilities.

No motherboard combos with the X2 Athlons at all. No reason not to take the Phenom X3 over the Athlons then. So pretty much the combos above or wait and hope that the stock on the Asus motherboard gets replaced before this is all over.
 
MUWAHAHAHA

I was patient and refreshing the page on the mobo every 5 minutes and it finally popped up in stock again. I quickly bought the combo :D This happened earlier too and it sold out in like 10 minutes. I didn't lag this time.

edit: thanks for the suggestions again though shambles. If they cancel my order I'll be sure to check that out

Now if someone could point me to a great priced 160gb external 2.5" harddrive..I can die happy
 
Nice job. Looks like it's out again. If I were you I'd probably double check and make sure you didn't grab the other combo with the Asus motherboard that has a very similar name but is 180+ dollars. :D

Time for me to go to sleep, goodnight folks
 
Shambles said:
Nice job. Looks like it's out again. If I were you I'd probably double check and make sure you didn't grab the other combo with the Asus motherboard that has a very similar name but is 180+ dollars. :D

Time for me to go to sleep, goodnight folks
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You scared me for a second :lol but nope, my subtotal was 160$ and everything looked right. Although the Mobo name is so long I didn't bother double checking. Goodnight!
 
·feist· said:
That is not a good deal.
The 768MB GTX 460 is a better card and is available from a few different brands for $115 after rebate.
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In some cases, but not all.

However, I still wouldn't get a GTX460 SE, at all.
 
Been following the last few pages of this thread and various Black Friday sources to put together this system, ordered from newegg:


Total, with rebates, should come to ~$608.

Would really appreciate a basic sanity check that this stuff is going to work together okay. In particular, I'm a little worried about the Palit video card, the reviews for which aren't terribly flattering (I was swayed by the combo deal, but I'm sort of regretting that).

I haven't been familiar with PC components for a very long time (my current system is a 5-year-old Pentium 4), so I sort of guessed my way through this, with a lot of help from posters in the last few pages. My needs are pretty basic--I'd like to web browse, play music, play a couple newer games (Starcraft 2, Civ V) passably, so I'm hoping this is sufficient.

Thanks!
 
joseph1594 said:
How big of a difference is Sandy Bridge and the current processors on the market? I was kind of hoping to be able to build this computer very soon.
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Should be pretty substantial. 25-35% improvement on the stuff it replaces I think. There are some previews if you search around (check Anandtech).
 
darthbob said:
In some cases, but not all.

However, I still wouldn't get a GTX460 SE, at all.
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The 768MB is a better card in that it's a great value proposition and is not a pointless purchase. You can say that the SE's existence benefits Nvidia more than buyers. If you want additional flexibility for gaming, you buy a 1GB 460, 6850 or higher - not a card that's poorly positioned in the market.
 
Hello guys.

A friend of mine wants to buy a new computer and the only thing she has is the monitor. She wants a not so expensive PC whose main purpose will be listening to music, videos and using microsoft office, while using skype. However, she enjoys playing starcraft II, which means that the computer must be able to play that kind of game.

We live in Brazil, and after taking into account the price of US PC parts, I believe her budget is aprox. $700 dollars. So, please consider each part at its full price (unfortunately, we don't have the black friday in here).

Regards,
Luiz Felipe
 
I'm pretty satisfied with the PC I built back in 2008, although I could probably use a new CPU one of these days, as I cheaped out back then. Since I found out recently that I wouldn't have to reinstall my OS after a CPU upgrade, I'd be more willing to do this. I currently have a Pentium Dual Core E5200 2.5GHz, using a socket 775. I know most people will suggest to upgrade to an i7 or something, but I'm perfectly happy with what I otherwise have, and don't want to switch motherboards. I'd been looking at a C2D E8400, as that seemed to be among the most popular C2Ds, but it seems they haven't dropped in price at all since 2008. Is there any chance they will in the near future?
 
Bought everything. Dad's computer will be $500 or so after mail in rebates. Couldn't get on that CPU/mobo deal above so spent an extra $20 on the mobo elsewhere.
 
opticalmace said:
Should be pretty substantial. 25-35% improvement on the stuff it replaces I think. There are some previews if you search around (check Anandtech).
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Ok. So, what other parts could I get now, or does it depend on what is compatible with the Sandy Bridge?
 
MikeE21286 said:
This one looks muuch better then...

Samsung LN32C530 32-Inch 1080p 60 Hz LCD HDTV (Black) - $328 w/ free shipping

edit: just bought it
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You're going to be a happy man. The cheap Samsungs are the best for PC and gaming since they have very low input lag (reportedly around 15ms, as opposed to 130ms in their higher end sets). That's an insane deal for $328.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le32c530-le40c530-20100813815.htm

Like I said, LED and 120Hz are almost purely marketing gimmicks. This is great for people who are in the know, since the low end TVs are insanely good for the price at the moment.
 
Newegg has a combo deal with an AMD Phenom II X3 740 BE 3.0GHz processor and Biostar TA890GXB motherboard for $108. Will that motherboard only work with DDR3 RAM or can I put my 4GB of DDR2 800 in there?

Also, if I swap my motherboard and processor like that would I have to reformat or will I be ok as long as I keep my hard drives in the same configuration. If I don't have to reformat will I have a problem with Windows 7 activation, considering the system components changed so dramatically?
 
Ashhong said:
FUCK. i was just about to buy that 160$ AMD combo and the goddamn motherboard went out of stock.

Can someone point me to a mobo/CPU deal that is similar?

it was this processor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103656

with this mobo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16813131647
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Here's all the combos they have going with that particular processor

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...ubCategory=343&SortField=0&PageSize=10&page=1
 
TheExodu5 said:
You're going to be a happy man. The cheap Samsungs are the best for PC and gaming since they have very low input lag (reportedly around 15ms, as opposed to 130ms in their higher end sets). That's an insane deal for $328.

http://www.hdtvtest.co.uk/news/samsung-le32c530-le40c530-20100813815.htm

Like I said, LED and 120Hz are almost purely marketing gimmicks. This is great for people who are in the know, since the low end TVs are insanely good for the price at the moment.
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I'm looking at this monitor, http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=35314&vpn=W2442PA-BF&manufacture=LG Electronics

Any good?
 
Houston3000 said:
Newegg has a combo deal with an AMD Phenom II X3 740 BE 3.0GHz processor and Biostar TA890GXB motherboard for $108. Will that motherboard only work with DDR3 RAM or can I put my 4GB of DDR2 800 in there?

Also, if I swap my motherboard and processor like that would I have to reformat or will I be ok as long as I keep my hard drives in the same configuration. If I don't have to reformat will I have a problem with Windows 7 activation, considering the system components changed so dramatically?
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Pretty sure you need DDR3 ram for that, judging by the Details page.

Also note that that processor is OEM version, so you'll need to buy a cooler and probably some thermal paste
 
Houston3000 said:
Newegg has a combo deal with an AMD Phenom II X3 740 BE 3.0GHz processor and Biostar TA890GXB motherboard for $108. Will that motherboard only work with DDR3 RAM or can I put my 4GB of DDR2 800 in there?

Also, if I swap my motherboard and processor like that would I have to reformat or will I be ok as long as I keep my hard drives in the same configuration. If I don't have to reformat will I have a problem with Windows 7 activation, considering the system components changed so dramatically?
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DDR3 and you should really do a fresh install (mobo change). CPU,RAM, GPU, HDD upgrade you don't need to.
 
got a small dilemma i think the pc enthusiasts here may be able to come up with a solution for:

my parents shipped my tower through UPS not too long ago from AZ to SC, and insured it for $1000. i told them 2k just to be safe, but oh well.
anyway, upon receiving it, i noticed the 5 in 1 card reader got pushed into the tower.
i may have exaggerated a bit when telling them the extent of the problems, but i've been going through the claims process for a while now. first had to take pictures, then prove it's value, then get that sheet signed by a ups employee (for whatever reason), and now they want me to take it to a computer shop to tell how cheap it'd be to just fix.
going on the notion of it being completely demolished, i tell them there is no way to repair computer components and they just get replaced when broken, so the price on the paper i sent them previously would be how much it'd cost, which is over $1000. i may or may not have lied on that too, though.

i've called around to a couple computer shops around here just asking if they'll write down on a sheet of company paper that the stuff can't be fixed and just needs to be replaced, but none will do it without seeing the pc. thing is though, it still works and if i bring it in they'll be sure to say i only need a new card reader, which would be like $50. i obviously want the full $1k. idk how to pull it off!
 
joseph1594 said:
Ok. So, what other parts could I get now, or does it depend on what is compatible with the Sandy Bridge?
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Power supply, ram Sata drives should/will all be compatible with the SB mobos. But I would HIGHLY recommended buying everything at once. I really really would.


But its black Friday so I could understand if you got some stuff now anyhow lol.
 
//B1G said:
got a small dilemma i think the pc enthusiasts here may be able to come up with a solution for:

my parents shipped my tower through UPS not too long ago from AZ to SC, and insured it for $1000. i told them 2k just to be safe, but oh well.
anyway, upon receiving it, i noticed the 5 in 1 card reader got pushed into the tower.
i may have exaggerated a bit when telling them the extent of the problems, but i've been going through the claims process for a while now. first had to take pictures, then prove it's value, then get that sheet signed by a ups employee (for whatever reason), and now they want me to take it to a computer shop to tell how cheap it'd be to just fix.
going on the notion of it being completely demolished, i tell them there is no way to repair computer components and they just get replaced when broken, so the price on the paper i sent them previously would be how much it'd cost, which is over $1000. i may or may not have lied on that too, though.

i've called around to a couple computer shops around here just asking if they'll write down on a sheet of company paper that the stuff can't be fixed and just needs to be replaced, but none will do it without seeing the pc. thing is though, it still works and if i bring it in they'll be sure to say i only need a new card reader, which would be like $50. i obviously want the full $1k. idk how to pull it off!
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The fuck?
angry.gif
 
Poetic said:
Does this look decent for the price?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227291

I usually buy parts and build my own, but I saw this and have someone with a credit card willing to get it for me as I pay her back. I'm still playing on a Q6600 w/ GeForce 8800 GTS card...is it a huge upgrade?
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Don't waste your money.

At $700, you can do far better GPU-wise. Have a look at the last 2-3 pages or so for proof of that.
Your current CPU should be running at 3GHz at least, or north of 3.2 with some work and willing components.

Wait for January for Intel's launch. AMD's chips come later in 2011.

The initial run of Core i and Pentium parts:

http://www.expreview.com/12827.html
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
http://www.google.com/language_tools
Processor.png



Various links on AMD AM3+/Bulldozer/Fusion and Intel Sandy Bridge/LGA 1155/LGA 2011:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24459579&postcount=17606
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24387740&postcount=17473
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24347474&postcount=17352



joseph1594 said:
Ok. So, what other parts could I get now, or does it depend on what is compatible with the Sandy Bridge?
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Do you already have recent ram modules? The only things you'll need for Sandy Bridge and AM3+ are the corresponding CPU and motherboard. Even Ivy Bridge (and a bit beyond that) will still be DDR3-based.

Have a look at the above.
 
·feist· said:
Don't waste your money.

At $700, you can do far better GPU-wise. Have a look at the last 2-3 pages or so for proof of that.
Your current CPU should be running at 3GHz at least, or north of 3.2 with some work and willing components.

Wait for January for Intel's launch. AMD's chips come later in 2011.

The initial run of Core i and Pentium parts:

http://www.expreview.com/12827.html
http://babelfish.yahoo.com/
http://www.google.com/language_tools
Processor.png



Various links on AMD AM3+/Bulldozer/Fusion and Intel Sandy Bridge/LGA 1155/LGA 2011:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24459579&postcount=17606
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24387740&postcount=17473
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=24347474&postcount=17352



Do you already have recent ram modules? The only things you'll need for Sandy Bridge and AM3+ are the corresponding CPU and motherboard. Even Ivy Bridge will still be DDR3-based.

Have a look at the above.
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I haven't yet started purchasing, as I have only started planning very recently. I will be sure to examine those closely. So, what are good options regarding RAM, motherboards, etc? I'm new at building PCs.
 
Woohoo, got home from my day job to see that the one Black Friday combo deal I wanted from Newegg was still available. I snagged the Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH120G2K5 (120GB SSD) and combo'ed it with a 1TB Seagate. The Intel drive is $40 off with a $30 MIR and the Seagate drive combo saved another $20.

I'm not starting my build until after the new Intel CPU's hit but the drive combo I bought today will work just as well then as it would now. Can't wait!
 
matmanx1 said:
Woohoo, got home from my day job to see that the one Black Friday combo deal I wanted from Newegg was still available. I snagged the Intel X25-M SSDSA2MH120G2K5 (120GB SSD) and combo'ed it with a 1TB Seagate. The Intel drive is $40 off with a $30 MIR and the Seagate drive combo saved another $20.

I'm not starting my build until after the new Intel CPU's hit but the drive combo I bought today will work just as well then as it would now. Can't wait!
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I was going to grab the Intel SSD, but their new SSD's should be out the same time as Sandy Bridge and be much much better value (About double storage for same cost) so I'm waiting.
 
Hazaro said:
I was going to grab the Intel SSD, but their new SSD's should be out the same time as Sandy Bridge and be much much better value (About double storage for same cost) so I'm waiting.
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You forgot about the new SandForce controller with its rumored insane read/write.
 
Hazaro said:
I was going to grab the Intel SSD, but their new SSD's should be out the same time as Sandy Bridge and be much much better value (About double storage for same cost) so I'm waiting.
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the intel x25-m 120gb vs patriot inferno 120gb (15$ less for patriot after rebate) WHICH ONE HAZARO (or anyone else)
 
Hazaro said:
I was going to grab the Intel SSD, but their new SSD's should be out the same time as Sandy Bridge and be much much better value (About double storage for same cost) so I'm waiting.
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Arent the intel/sandforce drives staggered? Meaning Intel is expected first, then soon after right around the corner the new sandforce ones? :lol :lol Freaking SSD's are looking worse than GPU's. Trying to figure where to jump in is hard as hell.
 
Mairu said:
the intel x25-m 120gb vs patriot inferno 120gb (15$ less for patriot after rebate) WHICH ONE HAZARO (or anyone else)
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Don't know a thing about the Patriot, but unless it's a SandForce, go with the Intel. If it's some sort of lightning deal just buy the Intel now.
 
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