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"I need a new PC!" 2010 Edition

ChoklitReign said:
Can you run 3DMark 11 and post your score? That's a lot like the computer I want to build and I was just curious how well it would run.
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That's like asking how it can run Metro 2033 with AA at 1080p.
Don't go there man!
 
Hazaro said:
Congratulations! Please post pics of your nicely priced, yet very capable rig!
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Thank you, I will post pictures once I get back my camera. I went specifically with the build you suggested, I just switched out a few of the non essentials and everything worked just fine, now I will see if overclocking is possible.

ChoklitReign said:
Can you run 3DMark 11 and post your score? That's a lot like the computer I want to build and I was just curious how well it would run.
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Sure, I will post the results for you but not sure if my machine is up to that challenge :lol
 
Slowly increase. Every CPU is different. I've seen people here and elsewhere say "Just go straight to 4GHz!!!" or whatever which is just madness.
 
Yeah I tried jumping my i5 750 right to 3.8GHz and failed. I found a guide online from a guy who had virtually the same hardware and I just couldnt get there. Like Fredescu said, every CPU is different.

Sad part is that I dont think I can go above 3.4GHz without increasing voltage :(
 
Azzurri said:
AMD better hurry up and release their 6900 series so I can buy my parts. arrrrg
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How much more of an increase in performance is 69xx? you can get a 5870 for $215 after rebate right now...

Also, any have a OC guide for I5-750 on a MSI-GD65?
 
Fredescu said:
Slowly increase. Every CPU is different. I've seen people here and elsewhere say "Just go straight to 4GHz!!!" or whatever which is just madness.
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When I get my Sandy Bridge first thing after OS install is me cranking it up to 4.5Ghz :D
Just kidding, I'll run like at least 6 benching programs and 10 steam games before that
 
And the second thing is you buying a new sandy bridge!

Or the more likely scenario of maybe having to reboot and try again. The first sounds more dramatic.
 
Fredescu said:
Slowly increase. Every CPU is different. I've seen people here and elsewhere say "Just go straight to 4GHz!!!" or whatever which is just madness.
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Just increase the clock speed, or is there something else I should do? I keep having it lock up without much of a boost.
 
Drkirby said:
Just increase the clock speed, or is there something else I should do? I keep having it lock up without much of a boost.
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I see you're running a Phenom x2, what motherboard are you using? You should be able to hit 3.6Ghz without doing too much besides increasing the clock speed and possibly the CPU voltage. Your motherboard might even have an auto-overclock feature. They seem to work pretty decent as long as it's changing the settings in the BIOS when it runs instead of loading the clocks with the software.
 
caliblue15 said:
wow my 3d mark 11 sucks, is it because of the GTX 460?
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CPU also factors in, but yeah, 3DMark 11 does test heavily on tessellation and while the 460 does an admirable job, it can't hold a candle to higher cards. (570, 580, 5970, 69xx(?))
 
Davedough said:
And so it begins....

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Got my case today, the rest of it comes tomorrow. Building a Gaming/HTPC to fit in my console. Sooooo excited.
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Same case I've had for over a year...very tight space when you put a good sized GPU in. Will probably upgrade my case sometime next year to something a bit roomier.
 
darthbob said:
CPU also factors in, but yeah, 3DMark 11 does test heavily on tessellation and while the 460 does an admirable job, it can't hold a candle to higher cards. (570, 580, 5970, 69xx(?))
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i have an i7-970, so i hope its just the 460, i'll run DX 10 3d mark..
 
Gaf

I need a new case, old Bertha has served me well (It's an old from 2003 back when that one with the lower grill, door cover was all the rage.), but I want something new.

Price limit = $100
Color - Cliche Black
PSU - On Bottom
Needs enough space for 2 6870s.

Suggestions anyone?
 
Angelus Errare said:
Gaf

I need a new case, old Bertha has served me well (It's an old from 2003 back when that one with the lower grill, door cover was all the rage.), but I want something new.

Price limit = $100
Color - Cliche Black
PSU - On Bottom
Needs enough space for 2 6870s.

Suggestions anyone?
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Cooler Master CM690II Advanced or Basic.

That's the best you're gonna get, seriously.
 
Ok, looks like I found my problem in overclocking before, I had just assumed the motherboard would of adjusted the voltage to the CPU properly when set to Auto. Upped it from 1.35 to 1.44 and have now seem to be running quiet stable with at 25% increase in speed. Now to see how heating goes with the stock cooler.

Edit: Dolphin with F-Zero crashed the whole computer twice, turned it down to 240*14, locked up dolphin instead of taking down the whole system, ran Prime95, And the CPU overheated :lol
 
I cant get any of my hardware to actually spin up during the newer 3dmark. My vidcard just sits in, what I guess is 2d mode and doesnt even spin up when it starts, I checked the cpu activity and saw the same. The results had my cpu clock wrong, GPU clocks way wrong and everything.
 
Fredescu said:
Slowly increase. Every CPU is different. I've seen people here and elsewhere say "Just go straight to 4GHz!!!" or whatever which is just madness.
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Salaadin said:
Yeah I tried jumping my i5 750 right to 3.8GHz and failed. I found a guide online from a guy who had virtually the same hardware and I just couldnt get there. Like Fredescu said, every CPU is different.
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Yeah copy pasting bios templates rarely works, it's good to give you an idea what voltages to tweak though.

Even then it's still mainly hit and miss, my i7 920 responds very well to CPU PLL tweaking, others don't. You just need to be very methodical, change ONE SINGLE SETTING, write it all down, stresstest, change again.

That's the only way to find out what works and what doesn't, I also write down the times the stresstests last with specific settings, if something gives you a 3hour stability boost in prime blend, that's a setting you gotta tweak a bit more :)

Print out a Bios template, you can find them in the OTs of your mobo on OC.net or something if you're using a more popular mobo type and write it all down.


My Q9550 took three months of tweaking and stresstesting to get it stable at 4.25, my i7 920 @ 4.2 2 weeks or something. It takes some time and effort... Most people see them big 4ghz+ numbers and think ME TOO ME TOO, put in some numbers and fail. Or use way too much voltage cause they don't bother finetuning settings.


My way of stresstesting and use of software btw is first 20 linx runs with 3gb memory used, just to check for initial stability (cause it doesn't take too long), if I can get those 20 linx runs I move on to prime blends for real end game stability and finetuning, 12hour+ prime blends is stable in my book. There are a lot of methods and software and "stable" for you might not be stable for me and vice versa.


RANT sorry :lol
 
Sorry if this has been asked, but I noticed today that the Phenom II X6 Black Edition is now just over two hundred bucks on Newegg ($230). How good of a good deal is this? I know that a lot of people suggest the i5 over the X6 line, and since Sandy Bridge is about to come out I realize it's a bad time to buy a processor, but is there going to be a Sandy Bridge proc at the ~$200 price point with an unlock multiplier? And how big of a difference is there in performance between the X6 and i5? I know that the X6 is going to be fine for a huge majority of games, but people suggest getting the i5 if emulation is an interest. How much worse would the X6 be at running something like Dolphin?
 
I've been debating whether to go bare bones vs. build it all on your own trying to look at the original prices and such. So far I've settled my wallet on this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7024175&sku=B69-9012

Doesn't come with a graphics card, hard drive, or disk drive. If this does look good, I'm probably looking at getting a decent graphics card to run recent games and later upgrade for Battlefield 3 later on. I also plan to do a lot of video editing. I'm really trying to not spend more than 1400 dollars.
 
Instrumedley said:
I've been debating whether to go bare bones vs. build it all on your own trying to look at the original prices and such. So far I've settled my wallet on this:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7024175&sku=B69-9012

Doesn't come with a graphics card, hard drive, or disk drive. If this does look good, I'm probably looking at getting a decent graphics card to run recent games and later upgrade for Battlefield 3 later on. I also plan to do a lot of video editing. I'm really trying to not spend more than 1400 dollars.
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It's not too bad a deal, but if you purchased the items separately from Newegg, you would save a little over $100. Adding a hard drive, gaming video card and optical drive will take you right up to your $1400 limit.
 
dr3upmushroom said:
Sorry if this has been asked, but I noticed today that the Phenom II X6 Black Edition is now just over two hundred bucks on Newegg ($230). How good of a good deal is this? I know that a lot of people suggest the i5 over the X6 line, and since Sandy Bridge is about to come out I realize it's a bad time to buy a processor, but is there going to be a Sandy Bridge proc at the ~$200 price point with an unlock multiplier? And how big of a difference is there in performance between the X6 and i5? I know that the X6 is going to be fine for a huge majority of games, but people suggest getting the i5 if emulation is an interest. How much worse would the X6 be at running something like Dolphin?
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Intel is likely to bring out their new Sandy Bridge chips in the first week of January. Right now it's best for everyone to play the waiting game.
 
Cipherr said:
Yeah, static buildup is bad on carpet, you don't want any of that near your expensive pc parts. Build in an un-carpeted room.
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I build them in my kitchen. Naked. Like a bomb maker. Cant be too careful.
 
Why can't people do mild to moderate oi'ing? Fucking 4ghz :lol Why do you need so much? :D


My Phenom II X6 1055T is at 3.210GHz and I'm perfectly happy.


Anyways I would love doing a small form factor build on my next rig but I always end up going for a full tower :lol as much as I love my Antec 300 case.

I want to make something small/efficient/powerful does anyone have an amazing htpc case capable of holding high powered/high featured (albeit limited slots granted) components.

I wouldn't want more than 2 hdds and 1 ssd + powerful gpu.
 
whats the sweet spot for a budget laptop these days? Does it make sense to go for something like an i3-370M with 4GB RAM? Don't need a powerhouse but would like something that won't feel too sluggish in a few years. Just general usage.
 
mrklaw said:
whats the sweet spot for a budget laptop these days? Does it make sense to go for something like an i3-370M with 4GB RAM? Don't need a powerhouse but would like something that won't feel too sluggish in a few years. Just general usage.
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The sweet spot is is indeed any of the i3 mobile chips from the 330 to the 370 with 4GB memory and anywhere from a 320-500GB HDD. They often sell for 500$ but recently I have seen several on sale for as low as 400$ during BF. If there aren't any available for 400$ currently I'd probably just wait as I'm sure we'll see more in the next few weeks.
 
Robert Ashley said:
The 8800 GT in my 3-year old Dell just died. Need a new card. Should I just get the same thing? This card was just barely power-able for my comp.
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According to Anandtech's Crysis power usage benchmark, under load the 8800GT requires 248 Watts while the Asus 6850 requires 263 Watts. It might be worth a try as the 6850 would be a great upgrade. I'm thinking of going from the 8800GTS512 to the 6850 myself.

Edit: Damn, Newegg had some of these in stock this morning, but they seem to be gone again.
 
caliblue15 said:
i have an i7-970, so i hope its just the 460, i'll run DX 10 3d mark..
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3D Mark is far more GPU dependent, so yeah, it is your GTX 460. All you need to know is that you don't need to worry about CPU limited for a long time, since your CPU is a cut above.
 
darthbob said:
That's debatable.

It doesn't have the cable management of the 690II, for one.
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It does. Not as clean looking since the right side of the mobo tray is open, but cable management is even easier than the 690 since there's a lot more room in behind the mobo tray.
 
I'm overclocking my GTX 460 right now, is 80C the usual temperature mark you want to stay below?

Do you guys like adding voltage to your GPU's or just messing with the core clocks?

Edit: I gained 400 points on the 3D mark 11, but I still have people with i5-760 beating me with the same exact card.. and my card is clocked higher, is it because they OC'd their CPU's to 4ghz?
 
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