"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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How would you guys rate these laptop choices?
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Intel® Core i7-2630QM , 16 GB DDR3-RAM, NVIDIA® GeForce GTX560
- 5400 rmp HDD
- kind of a budget brand but gets good reviews
http://www.conrad.de/ce/de/product/877218/MEDION-ERAZER-X6817-GAMING-156/0413033&ref=list
1200 euro
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Intel® Core i7-2630QM , 8 GB DDR3-RAM, AMD Radeon HD 6990 or Geforce 580
- 7200 rmp HDD
- custom built laptop from online only shop
- HD 6990 / 580 in 15.6" = death?
http://www.one.de/shop/product_info.php?cPath=203&products_id=4914
1400 euro for HD 6990 or 1550 for Geforce 580
You want laptop-GAF : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=386622
(I don't recommend buying a gaming laptop, because they are expensive and less powerful than the desktop equivalent. They also suck in terms of battery life. Having said that, I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough about laptop gaming performance to suggest one model over the other. Much more luck is likely to be had at laptop gaf)
(I don't recommend buying a gaming laptop, because they are expensive and less powerful than the desktop equivalent. They also suck in terms of battery life. Having said that, I don't consider myself knowledgeable enough about laptop gaming performance to suggest one model over the other. Much more luck is likely to be had at laptop gaf)
black_vegeta
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ASUS Suite is ASS!!
Don't believe it!
Don't believe it!
HotHamWater
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Yeah, either Asus Suite took a shit or you've got a bad sensor.
adam.chance
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Could someone recommend me a good case with lots of 3.5 HDD space? I really wanted to buy the Fractal Design Define XL, but it seems I waited too long, because newegg lists it as discontinued and they are the only USA supplier I've found. I have a media server with 6 HDD right now, but I would like to expand it over the next few years to include more.
Tallshortman
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LordCanti said:
Nah, the 2600k is better though the 2500k lags behind by only about 2-3% on average, though the 980x is better than either in some.
BLU-82 said:
You can get to 4.2 by adjusting one setting in Windows. It's inefficient, but it is beyond easy. 4.4 is easy but requires a couple tweaks. 4.5 seems to be where you start having to tweak more. I got to 4.6 stable, but it wasn't worth the heat and power draw.
I also own an ASRock P67, but consider an ASUS board if you are going to hard core OC. ASUS reps have a pretty thorough guide at [H]ardforums, and the methodology doesn't really translate to other boards. They also post over there and answer questions.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1578110
adam.chance said:
Most mid-tower cases support 10 HDDs (if you use the 5.25" bays) these days and decent ones can be had for $75-100. Your tolerance for "enthusiast" cases may be a factor here, and getting a nicer looking one can cost quite a bit
Flying_Phoenix
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Man Raid0 is awesome. Opening up Steam is snappy due to the SSD and game load times are more less just as fast as they are on the SSD.
Its the best of both worlds.
Its the best of both worlds.
There will still be a few games that greatly benefit from an SSD, notably games that focus heavily on HDD streaming. MMOs benefit the most, in my experience. WoW on an SSD vs. on HDDs is night and day. Character models in major series take forever to load on an HDD, but they load pretty much instantly on an SSD. In LOTRO, stuttering is reduces by a lot with an SSD.
Flying_Phoenix
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TheExodu5 said:
So SSD for MMOs and massive Openworld games and HDD for everything else?
adam.chance
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Thanks to mkenyon and squicken for pointing out an obvious alternative. I hate when I get focused in on some idea and fail to see something simple. Maybe I will finally by myself a Lian-Li case and get some adapters.
MisterNoisy
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A buddy of mine has expressed interest in buying my current PC (i5-760 + GTX560ti) for $600, so that gave me carte blanche to put together another one.
Parts are all ordered, and I can't wait to finish the build and post up pics.
Alas, I will have to wait until next week, since the parts are still arriving
NZXT Phantom White/Blue
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
Core i5 2500K under a CM V6GT
8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile
ASUS GTX570 1280MB DirectCuII
NZXT Hale90 750W
60GB Corsair SSD (OS)
1TB Spinpoint F3 (everything else)
Waiting for parts is by far the worst part of building. The Phantom arrived earlier this week and I'm already impressed - the fit and finish isn't up to par with the Lancool K63 I'm selling, but the room and features blow it away.
Parts are all ordered, and I can't wait to finish the build and post up pics.
Alas, I will have to wait until next week, since the parts are still arrivingNZXT Phantom White/Blue
ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3
Core i5 2500K under a CM V6GT
8GB Corsair Vengeance Low Profile
ASUS GTX570 1280MB DirectCuII
NZXT Hale90 750W
60GB Corsair SSD (OS)
1TB Spinpoint F3 (everything else)
Waiting for parts is by far the worst part of building. The Phantom arrived earlier this week and I'm already impressed - the fit and finish isn't up to par with the Lancool K63 I'm selling, but the room and features blow it away.
Tallshortman said:
Any of the three processors listed is unlikely to be the bottleneck in a system. Somewhere down the line, yeah, the 2600k may take a bit of a lead (if HT is ever really utilized in games) but I don't think it's worth the extra $100.
I just realized that the microcenter sale ended. Guess I'll wait till next time.
Had a little project tonight, installed a Aerocool 1,000 touch fancontroller along with another scythe fan. In retrospect i probably should have bough two more scythe fans because they are way more silent compared to the stock R3 fans. Got my two intakes running at 800rpm, side panel 400rpm, and exhuast at 800rpm. The touch controller looks really nice, it doesnt contrast with the case like in the picture.
The_Inquisitor
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Question.
I use my ATH-M50's to listen to audio on my computer. Would adding an audio card dramatically improve my audio quality versus the onboard on my p8p67?
I use my ATH-M50's to listen to audio on my computer. Would adding an audio card dramatically improve my audio quality versus the onboard on my p8p67?
SneakyStephan
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LordCanti said:
I just wish laptop and gpu manufacturers would stopwith the bollox naming conventions for their mobile gpus.
It's physically impossible to fit and cool a gpu with the die size/amount of transistors of a gtx 560 , let alone a 580 or 6990, in a laptop enclosure.
Calling something with the performance of a hd 6750 a 6990 does not a 6990 make.
I'm with you btw, quoted poster should just buy a multimedia laptop with good battery life and buy a gaming pc from the 800+ dollars left over...
-60 degrees, your mobo is going to freeze, oh noes.Smokey said:Got home and turned on my monitor and see alerts in my log:
Also check out the motherboard listing on the right. What is going on here?
Well when I get home and first thing I see is an alert triangle(s) in the corner of the screen it's a bit worrisome.
It's just a faulty reading, ignore it (and uninstall that pos)
Okay, GAF, I just built my pc, the first one I ever built, and it doesn't work.
At first, I got no picture at all, and no beeps. The motherboard (asrock extreme4) gave the error code 45 on it's handy little debug LED thing. This seems to be an error related to memory.
So I thought, okay, maybe one or both of the sticks of RAM is faulty. But it looks otherwise, because as long as I have either stick (and only one) in one of the right hand slots, I can boot and see the bios (haven't tried getting any further yet). It's just that if anything at all goes into the corresponding slot on the left, it doesn't work.
So what's going on here, is the mobo faulty, or something else?
At first, I got no picture at all, and no beeps. The motherboard (asrock extreme4) gave the error code 45 on it's handy little debug LED thing. This seems to be an error related to memory.
So I thought, okay, maybe one or both of the sticks of RAM is faulty. But it looks otherwise, because as long as I have either stick (and only one) in one of the right hand slots, I can boot and see the bios (haven't tried getting any further yet). It's just that if anything at all goes into the corresponding slot on the left, it doesn't work.
So what's going on here, is the mobo faulty, or something else?
The_Inquisitor said:
I use Goldring DR150's to listen to the majority of audio on my computer. I bought an Asus Xonar DG sound card to go with them and there was definitely a difference between that and the on board sound on my motherboard (socket 1156 board). This card has a headphone amp built in so it's likely some of the difference could be attributed to that.
Also have a stereo hooked up to my PC and couldn't notice much of a difference between the sound card and on board for that though.
LQX said:
Are we talking about the same thing though? I can't even get to the bios when I have the ram all installed. Is there a way to alter those things in this case?
My memory is G.Skill Ripjaws-X 4GB for the record.
The Nature Roy
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With the help of this thread I built a gaming PC earlier this year:
i5 2500k
P67-UD3P
EVGA GTX460 1GB Superclocked EE
4GB DDR3 SDRAM
SeaSonic S12II 520w PSU
Anyway, I'm really happy with how it performs but I'm thinking about throwing a little cash at it with some more demanding games on the horizon. What might be my best bet if I were to spend $200 or so?
Besides some more RAM the obvious answer would probably be another 460 for SLI, right? But would the 520w PSU be a limiting factor preventing that?
And if so, would it make any sense to get something like a 560 for the primary card and then assign the 460 to PhysX?
i5 2500k
P67-UD3P
EVGA GTX460 1GB Superclocked EE
4GB DDR3 SDRAM
SeaSonic S12II 520w PSU
Anyway, I'm really happy with how it performs but I'm thinking about throwing a little cash at it with some more demanding games on the horizon. What might be my best bet if I were to spend $200 or so?
Besides some more RAM the obvious answer would probably be another 460 for SLI, right? But would the 520w PSU be a limiting factor preventing that?
And if so, would it make any sense to get something like a 560 for the primary card and then assign the 460 to PhysX?
Coldsnap said:
http://www.logitech.com/en-au/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Excellent keyboard, as long as you don't need the numpad. I've got a Logi G7 mouse to go with it. Amazing combo.
/edit: just noticed the RRP. Holy shit, I didn't pay anything like that!
Other than that, I have no suggestions for you
The Nature Roy said:
The 520w would prevent SLI, as well as using the second card for PhysX most likely (I've never actually looked at power draw for a second card used for PhysX, but I doubt it would work).
Your best option for $200? Sell the 460, and buy a GTX 560 ti. Otherwise, you're going to have to put money into a better PSU for SLI.
Edit: Forgot to mention that the 560 (non TI) is basically a higher clocked 460. Not worth the money, according to the general consensus I've seen here.
elfinke said:http://www.logitech.com/en-au/keyboards/keyboard/devices/192
Excellent keyboard, as long as you don't need the numpad. I've got a Logi G7 mouse to go with it. Amazing combo.
/edit: just noticed the RRP. Holy shit, I didn't pay anything like that!
Other than that, I have no suggestions for you
Yea, I was looking at that on newegg. Really expensive!!
Tallshortman
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The Nature Roy said:
Agree with LordCanti. 460 is too powerful to waste as physx card and your PSU will likely not hold after intense usage. Sell your 460 and get a 6950, 560 Ti, or 570.
squicken said:
I would sell the 460. I don't have any data, but anecdotally, I've heard that much older cards than the 460 will work fine as a PhysX card in the second PCI-E slot. A 460 would be kind of overkill.
As for whether or not it would shut down, I would imagine so. Whether that means it would shut down fully (and produce no heat) or shut down part of the way (still producing heat), I'm not sure.
toastyToast
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mkenyon said:
I didn't think so. Natural convection would occur too slowly to have any significant effect. I see the design as more of a means to get 3 enormous intake fans.
The temps in my FT02 have been pretty great so far. Really pleased with it
The Teachinator
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squicken said:
If you got a 570 it would do everything physx included just swimmingly. I wouldn't really see a need for a dedicated physx card wih that caliber graphics card.
mkenyon said:
Compared to a single HDD...but the differences are major here, since I guess the streaming is essentially semi-random data. I'm talking about hundreds of player characters loading in 1-2 seconds on the SSD, and 10 seconds on the HDD. That pretty much implies a random data scenario, given those kinds of gains. For most games loading though, RAID 0 would be just as good.
I'm going to buy new computer parts soon and a power supply will be one of them. I currently only have one graphics card (460 GTX), and I plan to stick with it until next year. I want to make sure my parts last for at least 3 years, and that means leaving the option open for SLI. Would this be sufficient enough for two 1GB 460's, and a quad core processor?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005
RumblingRosco
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Ravenn17 said:
"This"? I think you forgot the link.
EDIT2: You know what, ignore my advice. Pretty sure I don't know what I'm talking about.
Soka said:
From the linked page:
NVIDIA SLI CERTIFIED
Featuring two 6+2-pin PCI-E power connectors, the Corsair CMPSU-650TX power supply has gone through a series of rigorous NVIDIA SLI certification tests for maximum system stability when building NVIDIA SLI PCs
It'll work for two 460's.
Edit: I should mention that I'm not sure two 460's is a "three year solution". Generally speaking, if you aren't going to SLI to start with, it's better to just buy the best single video card you can afford. Things constantly get cheaper, and in three years, a dual 460 setup is going to be pokey.
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