"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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ACE 1991 said:
Given this build: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Rla

What motherboard from Microcenter would I need to ensure it's compatible with the rest of my rig? That i5 2500K deal sounds amazing, but I want to make sure I'm not messing up the build I currently have. I'm leaving in less than 24 hours to go back to school and won't be near a microcenter, so if someone could give me some input on this soon I, and my small bank account, would greatly appreciate it! I can order the other parts online and have it shipped to school.
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Bumping due to time sensitivity. Sorry for being that guy.
 
ACE 1991 said:
Bumping due to time sensitivity. Sorry for being that guy.
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what boards are they offering?

Sethos said:
Not for gaming purposes really. The advantage starts to become obvious if you do a lot of 3D / Video rendering, stuff like that.
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you sure about that? i dont think its exactly that black and white

if you're using Maya, you better go i7-2600k OC'ed to 4.4 ghz!
 
Sethos said:
Not for gaming purposes really. The advantage starts to become obvious if you do a lot of 3D / Video rendering, stuff like that.
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Ahh... Well, I fall in the latter category since I use Maya a lot.
 
Yikes, got up to 85 degrees for my graphics card with the Crysis 1 demo. Supposedly 80 is normal? Sounded like a mini jet taking off on a really long runway.

I don't think I'll try the ENB mod. I remember being frustrated by it last time I tried.
 
LordCanti said:
I can't find anything mentioning the deal on their site. I added a Z68 mobo (the second most expensive Gigabyte one, for like $160) and a 2500k. In the cart, the mobo is $119 (before a $15 rebate).

I should mention that this is in store pickup only. Don't want to get the hopes up of anyone without a local Microcenter.
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Does this deal only apply to the most expensive mobo's? Can I get one within the $100-110 range for cheaper as a combo with the i5 2500K?
 
ACE 1991 said:
Does this deal only apply to the most expensive mobo's? Can I get one within the $100-110 range for cheaper as a combo with the i5 2500K?
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I went to the MC in Sharonville, Oh (from Indy, 2 hour drive) and bought that $115 ASRock Z68 mobo for $75 in the i5 2500k combo deal.

That was the micro one though. I think it works with any compatible board.
 
ACE 1991 said:
Does this deal only apply to the most expensive mobo's? Can I get one within the $100-110 range for cheaper as a combo with the i5 2500K?
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No idea. Add one to cart (with a 2500k) to find out.

ACE 1991 said:
Bumping due to time sensitivity. Sorry for being that guy.
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Get a P67 or Z68 mobo. No real difference between the two, unless you want the integrated video to work (Z68), or you want SSD caching (which takes a small SSD, and uses it to cache OS files).

Look for ATX and not Micro ATX.
 
jett said:
Is there any point in getting a 2600k over a 2500k for gaming purposes? Is there any purpose at all for it? :P
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No.

But for other purposes it's awesome. I stream live gameplay on my channel in 1080p and the 4 cores and 4 "virtual threads" get a nice workout.
 
LordCanti said:
No idea. Add one to cart (with a 2500k) to find out.



Get a P67 or Z68 mobo. No real difference between the two, unless you want the integrated video to work (Z68), or you want SSD caching (which takes a small SSD, and uses it to cache OS files).

Look for ATX and not Micro ATX.
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Okay, thanks! So, to clarify, any of the Z68 models and P67 models will be compatible with my build?
 
Okay so I'm looking at getting an ASUS P67 motherboard, but they have like 10 different models, any recommendations in the sub $150 price range?. I'm not looking for anything fancy, I intend to pair it to a 2500k for the potential of overclocking it if needed. The PC will most likely only be a single-GPU one.
 
jett said:
Okay so I'm looking at getting an ASUS P67 motherboard, but they have like 10 different models, any recommendations in the sub $150 price range?. I'm not looking for anything fancy, I intend to pair it to a 2500k for the potential of overclocking it if needed. The PC will most likely only be a single-GPU one.
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Any particular reason for the P67? The Z68's will do all of that and more; Asrock's Pro3 is a great board:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157251
 
LordCanti said:
WTF. Apparently Microcenter IS having a $40 combo deal for 2500k's and compatible mobo's right now. They didn't e-mail me about it. I feel so unloved.
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speaking of which i have until saturday to send in the rebate for the z68/i5 deal i got last month

also again microcenter is awesome saved me a bundle on my mobo/cpu
 
I just bought a Radeon 5770. I have Windows XP, meaning I'm restricted to directX 9.0. I'm wondering whether I'll see the actual power of the card when I switch to Windows 7, which has directX 11.0? For instance I play SC2, which looked great on my old graphics card (3870) but I noticed WoW still looks very meh. The graphics options say I need a card that supports shaders and some other things, including high resolution water effects.

I know the 5770 has to support those updated shaders. So I'll have access to those effects once I get Windows 7 correct?
 
jett said:
Okay so I'm looking at getting an ASUS P67 motherboard, but they have like 10 different models, any recommendations in the sub $150 price range?. I'm not looking for anything fancy, I intend to pair it to a 2500k for the potential of overclocking it if needed. The PC will most likely only be a single-GPU one.
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do you prefer ATX or micro ATX?

i just saw this on newegg, evga p67 mATX board. looks awesome.

i like the build quality of evga's mobos. and they have an awesome return policy.
 
PhoenixDark said:
I just bought a Radeon 5770. I have Windows XP, meaning I'm restricted to directX 9.0. I'm wondering whether I'll see the actual power of the card when I switch to Windows 7, which has directX 11.0? For instance I play SC2, which looked great on my old graphics card (3870) but I noticed WoW still looks very meh. The graphics options say I need a card that supports shaders and some other things, including high resolution water effects.

I know the 5770 has to support those updated shaders. So I'll have access to those effects once I get Windows 7 correct?
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iirc, i remember there was a hack to put dx 11 on xp machines.
 
sn1pes said:
Yea, and it has more 6gb/s SATA, and some other stuff.

I think I'm gonna go with that one. Any other thoughts on it?

Link for reference http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0367878
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My most recent build was on the ASRock Z68 Extreme4 Gen3, and I have nothing but nice things to say about it for the most part - the board you're looking at is recommended in the OP for a reason - it's solid and well-featured at a good price. The biggest issue I ran into was that I couldn't install my Cooler Master V6GT because of the (rather large) heatsinks around the CPU socket (which are identical to the one on the board you're looking at). The Hyper 212 fit fine, but if you're planning to use super high end CPU coolers, you may run into clearance issues.
 
Now, I wouldn't normally recommend something like the RoG series to regular system builders or gamers. But, with the tiny price increase on the Gene-Z over regular Z68, its the only 1155 board I'd personally consider buying. The price is stupid good for what you get out of it. RoG connect alone is worth the price increase, there's nothing that makes OCing as easy.

m4gene-z-1_750.jpg
 
mkenyon said:
Now, I wouldn't normally recommend something like the RoG series to regular system builders or gamers. But, with the tiny price increase on the Gene-Z over regular Z68, its the only 1155 board I'd personally consider buying.
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Asrock's Pro3 is ~100€ here, while the Gene-Z is 150-160€ (IF you can find some place that actually has it in stock). Pity, really.
 
Comparing an ASRock board to an RoG board is like a Kia to BMW. When i was talking about the price difference, I meant as in ASUS Z68 compared to the ASUS Gene-Z, its a $30-$40 difference. There's still a significant price difference here between the baseline ASRock boards though.
 
mkenyon said:
Comparing an ASRock board to an RoG board is like a Kia to BMW. When i was talking about the price difference, I meant as in ASUS Z68 compared to the ASUS Gene-Z, its a $30-$40 difference. There's still a significant price difference here between the baseline ASRock boards though.
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Have a newegg or amazon link to the board you posted?
 
mkenyon said:
Now, I wouldn't normally recommend something like the RoG series to regular system builders or gamers. But, with the tiny price increase on the Gene-Z over regular Z68, its the only 1155 board I'd personally consider buying. The price is stupid good for what you get out of it. RoG connect alone is worth the price increase, there's nothing that makes OCing as easy.

http://hw-lab.com/uploads/pr/asus/mb/lga1155/m4gene-z-1_750.jpg
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Listen to this man.
I've been drooling over this since they first announced it. Patiently waiting on Z77 before doing my next mATX build with 22nm+28nm, though. Yeah, you can bios update the M4G-Z, but I want it all...
 
mkenyon said:
Now, I wouldn't normally recommend something like the RoG series to regular system builders or gamers.
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I got my first RoG board sometime ago, never been happier with a motherboard. DAT FEATURES!

and its so rock solid in overclocking.
 
Feist, I feel like you have a direct connection to my PC Building desires. *internet five*

I'm so close to scrapping my watercooled bulldozer X900 build and doing a Gene-Z build in the V600FX.

CDN-LNL-PCV600FX.jpg
 
Returned a Diamond 6950 2GB at Fry's today and am just going to order a different one off Newegg or Amazon for cheaper when I do my research. Would it be wise to consider a GTX 560Ti instead to save a couple of bucks?

Reason I'm leaning towards a GTX 560 Ti is I'd save a little bit more money and COULD offset the other money for a Phenom II X4 965 upgrade (I currently run a Phenom II X4 805). I think my processor was a bottleneck when I had the 6950 running. I could easily go to Microcenter and pick up a 965 with a free MB for $119 + tax. I would have considered a GTX 570 but I think my processor will be a big enough bottleneck to prevent me from getting max. performance it's capable of.

This new videocard WILL transfer to a new build eventually (Whether it will be Bulldozer or new Intel chips remains to be seen). Any input would be great..
 
mkenyon said:
Now, I wouldn't normally recommend something like the RoG series to regular system builders or gamers. But, with the tiny price increase on the Gene-Z over regular Z68, its the only 1155 board I'd personally consider buying. The price is stupid good for what you get out of it. RoG connect alone is worth the price increase, there's nothing that makes OCing as easy.

http://hw-lab.com/uploads/pr/asus/mb/lga1155/m4gene-z-1_750.jpg
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my man..I said the same thing while I was clicking the buy button a week ago. :D
 
btcollide said:
Returned a Diamond 6950 2GB at Fry's today and am just going to order a different one off Newegg or Amazon for cheaper when I do my research. Would it be wise to consider a GTX 560Ti instead to save a couple of bucks?

Reason I'm leaning towards a GTX 560 Ti is I'd save a little bit more money and COULD offset the other money for a Phenom II X4 965 upgrade (I currently run a Phenom II X4 805). I think my processor was a bottleneck when I had the 6950 running. I could easily go to Microcenter and pick up a 965 with a free MB for $119 + tax. I would have considered a GTX 570 but I think my processor will be a big enough bottleneck to prevent me from getting max. performance it's capable of.

This new videocard WILL transfer to a new build eventually (Whether it will be Bulldozer or new Intel chips remains to be seen). Any input would be great..
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Use the money you would on a 965 on a AM3+ mobo instead (you can put your Phenom II X4 in a AM3+ mobo, they're backwards compatible). Then, when Bulldozer comes out, it'll be a drop-in upgrade to octo-core wonderland. You won't see huge gains between a 805 and a 965, aside from a few games like SCII where you need super speedy cores. Even then, you'd need to upgrade your 965 to 4.0Ghz territory to see that benefit.
 
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yeah yeah yeah micro atx board in an atx mid tower....


I couldnt resist the force though


Be careful when plugging in that 8 pin power! make sure its all the way in!

Ive blown up one already that way :D
 
mkenyon said:
Use the money you would on a 965 on a AM3+ mobo instead (you can put your Phenom II X4 in a AM3+ mobo, they're backwards compatible). Then, when Bulldozer comes out, it'll be a drop-in upgrade to octo-core wonderland. You won't see huge gains between a 805 and a 965, aside from a few games like SCII where you need super speedy cores. Even then, you'd need to upgrade your 965 to 4.0Ghz territory to see that benefit.
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Thanks Mkenyon - I'm hoping when Bulldozer comes out that MC will have a couple of bundle deals. I figure that the 965 from 805 upgrade wouldn't have much of a difference even with the few couple games that I run - which is why I was waiting for the new Bulldozer chips to see a significant performance boost. I have more disposable income than I did when I first built this rig so I'm more willing to spend more on a couple of parts. The only problem I'll have when I pick up a new MB is my OEM W7. Not sure If I can call Microsoft and BS that my motherboard broke. :)

Any input on the videocard upgrade? Currently running a 4850 1GB and it's been great so far, but I really am itching for a new card - especially "test running" the 6950.
 
Darklord said:
Got my new 570. Anything I need to know before installing it? This is the first time I'm installing a card.
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Uninstall your previous drivers through device manager. Then turn off your computer. Pull out the old card, put in the new one. Make sure it's plugged in to power as well. Turn it back on, install new drivers. Done!
 
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