"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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ChocolatePuddin
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Hey guys quick question, will I run into power problems running a 560Ti as my graphics card and a GTX285 as a physics card off a 650 watt?
Mr Nightman said:
Yeah, I won't be doing too much gaming with games such as BF 3 or anything like that. But I guess, I'll have to go with the i5 or i7 route and get a new board, CPU and RAM, and PSU. I guess I'm going to end up spending quite a bit of money on this upgrade/new rig.
I would have to format my HDD and do a clean install, correct?
And thank you for replying to my posts
Hieberrr said:Hey, everyone!
I bought a Dell XPS 420 around 3-4 years ago, so the hardware is a little dated.
Here is my current setup:
- Core 2 Duo E8400 @ 3.00GHz (32bit)
- 4GB Ram
- 375W PSU
- Radeon HD 5450
Basically, there's is no way of updating my MB or CPU as it's on a stock Dell board (I know, I know... Why the fuck Dell, right? LOL). The machine is still treating me right, pretty fast and no slowdowns since I've installed W7. Now.. in terms of gaming.. it has always lacked a bit (I guess that's partially due to the CPU aaaandd the GPU which I downgraded from a 9800GT since I couldn't find any other GT9800 or equivalent at the time).
So, I want a new GPU
Essentially, my question is: Should I upgrade my GPU (and potentially my PSU too) or do I wait a bit (a year or two) and build a new rig for ~500ish (I'm completely new to building). And if the former, which should I go with?
EDIT: The alternative is to just keep using my PS3 for gaming (like Fifa, etc..)
Personally I would spend around $75 or so now to get a pretty big jump in the the video card performance. You should be able to get a Radeon HD5670 for around that price which is the equivalent in performance of the 9800GT per Tom's hierarchy charts but is newer technology so it has DX11 support and lower power consumption. You should be fine with that PSU. Then start saving for a new build or new system a year or 2 down the road. With the 5670 you should be able to play pretty much all modern and upcomig games if you scale back the detail and resolution.
Something like this would work:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150467
Or this which is less, the difference being slower memory (GDDR3 vs GDDR5) which would mean a bit less performance though not much:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102930
Mr Nightman
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yea best to format and install fresh, honestly if you dont need the upgrade right now, you can just get a better gpu. I used to run a dual core amd with a 9800gt, and was playing games really well. They may have some 9800gts that dont require much power or even a power cable plugged into them, still stocked at newegg or tigerdirectHieberrr said:Yeah, I won't be doing too much gaming with games such as BF 3 or anything like that. But I guess, I'll have to go with the i5 or i7 route and get a new board, CPU and RAM, and PSU. I guess I'm going to end up spending quite a bit of money on this upgrade/new rig.
I would have to format my HDD and do a clean install, correct?
And thank you for replying to my posts
found an evga 9800gt at tiger for only 54 bucks after 74 dollar mail in rebate, and its power requirement recommends 350 watt psu soo you should be good to go
hodgy100 said:So a couple of days ago I said I would spec up some builds for UK-GAF
so far I have come up with this £600 build
I could probably get this under £500 with a 1TB drive and a GTX560 instead of TI.
Scan is my website of choice for the UK as they are very reputable and if you are a member of some forums you can get free delivery (AVforums)
Does anyone have any suggestions for any tweaks?
The caviar green drives are slow. They are slow, low power drives meant for storage. Switch that to a WD Black or a Samsung Spinpoint F3.
cartman414
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For $35 more, you could get the Vertex 3 of the same size.
chaosblade
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You can do better on the case for that price. Check out the ones in the OP.Ooccoo said:
Not sure about that PSU either, it might be okay. You'll have to make sure you balance the load on the v12 rails properly though.
Could get a cheaper 6950 with a good cooler, but that one isn't a bad choice.
You will want an aftermarket cooler if you are overclocking.
I'd Change the followingOoccoo said:
PSU To http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139031
GPU Chaosblade already gave advice on that.
Case (imo) to something a bit more advanced 900v2 is a bit old setup. Such as
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197
or http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352003
Mr Nightman
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Is the OCZ Vertex Plus a good ssd to start with? It is 50 dollars after mail in rebate and is sata2 and 60gb of storage.
Ooccoo
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chaosblade said:
Do you have suggestions? I'm a total noob. Someone told me SSD makes a huge difference so that's why it's included. Power supply will be changed to the one Velion suggested. For the 6950 I don't know either, really I'm just getting tips from people and don't understand a lot lol
FYI Microcenter now has $50 dollar off cpu + mobo bundle from 8/26 - 8/28. (Please note: Brick and mortar only, meaning, in-store only)
This is the best deal here, Z68 + $50 off + $15 Rebate = $50!
This is the best deal here, Z68 + $50 off + $15 Rebate = $50!
I just ordered an entire new system, and the thought of upgrading my power supply never even crossed my mind. I'm not sure how fast PSU's become obsolete.
Here's my new system:
CPU: i7 2600K SandyBridge
RAM: 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866
Videocard: AMD 6950 2GB
1x Optical Drive
4x internal hard drives (possibly 3, as I might retire the Raptor drive)
1x SSD
1x external Hard Drive
And... here's my PSU that I've had since Q6600 days:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
So... should I be worried? It's never been anything but extremely reliable thus far.
Here's my new system:
CPU: i7 2600K SandyBridge
RAM: 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866
Videocard: AMD 6950 2GB
1x Optical Drive
4x internal hard drives (possibly 3, as I might retire the Raptor drive)
1x SSD
1x external Hard Drive
And... here's my PSU that I've had since Q6600 days:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817703009
So... should I be worried? It's never been anything but extremely reliable thus far.
tehbible said:FYI Microcenter now has $50 dollar off cpu + mobo bundle from 8/26 - 8/28. (Please note: Brick and mortar only, meaning, in-store only)
This is the best deal here, Z68 + $50 off + $15 Rebate = $50!
Such great timing! I'm going there tomorrow. Thanks!
New computer is here hooray! Just gotta install the OS.
While I was unpacking it from the box (I had them assemble it) there was quite a bit of static built up and I got a shock from the case a few times. Any chance anything could've been damaged? Should be okay if it was just the case right?
Alsooo, what kind of testing and benchmark junk should I download?
While I was unpacking it from the box (I had them assemble it) there was quite a bit of static built up and I got a shock from the case a few times. Any chance anything could've been damaged? Should be okay if it was just the case right?
Alsooo, what kind of testing and benchmark junk should I download?
Some motherboard help please GAF.
CPU will be a 2500k so a compatible mobo is needed. I'm getting bogged down in the whole P67 or Z68 thing.
Am I right in thinking the only notable things the Z68 boards bring to the party is advantages to using an on-board GPU to encode video etc. and SSD caching?
Video encoding for me is nothing I will ever have a need for. SSD is a future upgrade possibly but not right now. Future proofing myself is something I am interested in though.
I have reasonably ok GPU (ATI 5700) at the moment and if I did upgrade it would be only to another single GPU and not a dual card set up. I can't seem to find any info concerning boards that might be superior to others in a single GPU config.
I'm currently thinking about an Asus P8Z68-V PRO (£123), an Asus P8P67 Pro R3 (£148), or an Asus P8P67 DELUXE R3 (£170). I'm not obsessed with Asus, they just seem to be well reviewed.
If anyone has any ideas or input I would be grateful.
CPU will be a 2500k so a compatible mobo is needed. I'm getting bogged down in the whole P67 or Z68 thing.
Am I right in thinking the only notable things the Z68 boards bring to the party is advantages to using an on-board GPU to encode video etc. and SSD caching?
Video encoding for me is nothing I will ever have a need for. SSD is a future upgrade possibly but not right now. Future proofing myself is something I am interested in though.
I have reasonably ok GPU (ATI 5700) at the moment and if I did upgrade it would be only to another single GPU and not a dual card set up. I can't seem to find any info concerning boards that might be superior to others in a single GPU config.
I'm currently thinking about an Asus P8Z68-V PRO (£123), an Asus P8P67 Pro R3 (£148), or an Asus P8P67 DELUXE R3 (£170). I'm not obsessed with Asus, they just seem to be well reviewed.
If anyone has any ideas or input I would be grateful.
bs000 said:
Prime95 for max CPU/Memory utilization. This is good if you're overclocking and want to know if your machine is stable or not.
CoreTemp to find out what your CPU temps are.
CPU-Z for detailed analysis of all your machine parts (type of memory, overclock speed, etc).
ChoklitReign
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Is that why bundling an MSI H67MA with an i3 reduces the mobo price to $50? God, I wish that deal lasted longer. It's going to take at least another month before I find a job.tehbible said:FYI Microcenter now has $50 dollar off cpu + mobo bundle from 8/26 - 8/28. (Please note: Brick and mortar only, meaning, in-store only)
This is the best deal here, Z68 + $50 off + $15 Rebate = $50!
cartman414
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Did you have that H67 + i3 in mind for an HTPC?
iSurvivedTheOutage
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Amazon still hasnt given me my refund :flame:
MDSLKTR
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GAF, I installed my gtx 580 on a Antec 650W (the requirements for the gpu are 600W min), everything is gravy. I wonder if I can use my previous gt 460 as a dedicated physx card, can I slap it in without the fear of it burning off my whole computer?
If yes... How/Where do i connect a molex cable to the power supply in order to power the 460?
If yes... How/Where do i connect a molex cable to the power supply in order to power the 460?
use PSU calculator to get a good estimate if it will work out or not.MDSLKTR said:
http://extreme.outervision.com/psucalculatorlite.jsp
Tea and Toast said:
What about a Cooler Master Silencio 550 chassis?
I am looking at the Corsair Carbide Series 400R It's sub $100 but has near the same level of quality that the 600T has but with a few features missing that are not that important to me (Built in Fan Controller and removable drive cages)
Cystm said:
The best quality cases are by far Lian Li and Silverstone. I'd check out those.
The entry level Cooler Master cases have mediocre build quality compared to the companies mentioned above.
chaosblade
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The Hyper 212+ listed in the OP is a good choice, it performs well and can be had for $25-$30. Try not to pay more than that, sometimes shops will mark it up due to it's popularity.Ooccoo said:
Along with the cases Velion suggested I'd also throw in the Cooler Master 690 II Advanced, and the Corsair Carbide 400R (I plan on getting a 500R myself). Those are all great cases that are much easier to work in and offer more features for the price. Antec used to be heavily recommended, but they haven't updated their cases and these days there is something better at every price point.
The video card is fine, there are alternatives with good coolers that could save you $10 after rebate, but then you won't get free shipping on it so it negates the benefit.
And the SSD can make a big difference, just put your OS and certain programs/games that have notable benefits on it. Media and most games won't load any quicker off it so you can leave those on a HDD.
tehbible said:
You are right about Lian Li, sleek and high quality.
I cannot help but think of a trash bin when I see this Silverstone "Fortress"
iSurvivedTheOutage
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knitoe said:
They received my return on the 23rd =/
chaosblade
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Disable the integrated graphics in the bios.Dries said:
Also, the difference would be pretty staggering, you would definitely know if it was using the integrated one.
Dries said:
Disable it in the bios.
Clydefrog said:
Then you should probably know that it essentially works based on what you are doing. Virtu aims to match each task with the GPU best suited to it.
IN otherwards if you are playing the new Deus Ex for example you will be using your GTX 570.
cartman414
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tehbible said:
Awesomesauce. Too bad it only has the HD2000 and not the 3000.
Did you get a Blu-ray drive for it, out of curiosity?
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