"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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AndyMoogle
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I'm going crazy trying to choose one Sandy Bridge mobo. There are way too many different ones available. I looked at the ASRock P67 Extreme4 GEN 3, which supposedly will support Ivy Bridge, and the ASRock P67 Extreme4 Rev B3 (whatever the difference is) has gotten great reviews.
However, I read in some places that Etron (the chipset ASRock uses) has shitty USB 3.0 drivers. I'm not really planning on using any USB 3.0 devices anytime soon, but I read that even USB 2.0 devices have problems in those USB 3.0 slots. Anyone here who has had problems with the Etron USB 3.0 ports? And if so, have they fixed the problems yet?
However, I read in some places that Etron (the chipset ASRock uses) has shitty USB 3.0 drivers. I'm not really planning on using any USB 3.0 devices anytime soon, but I read that even USB 2.0 devices have problems in those USB 3.0 slots. Anyone here who has had problems with the Etron USB 3.0 ports? And if so, have they fixed the problems yet?
Tonner Cyn
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Argh! Just got informed that the Zalman Z9 Plus case I wanted is backordered until almost the end of September. I'm getting an i5 2500K and a GTX 570 - would the CoolerMaster HAF 912 be a good choice?
Mr Nightman
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Yes it is, mine is the 912, keeps thing really cool and has nice cable management.Tonner Cyn said:
Citizen K said:
Tn panels a cheap and have very fast response times which means minimal ghosting. They also have inferior color accuracy and worse viewing angles. Ips panels are more expensive and have slower response times which often means some ghosting but have much better colors and viewing angles.
I have two tn panels and wish I had two ips panels.
Baller. PhD
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What is generally regarded as the maximum safe temperature of a GPU? My GTX570 DirectCU II idles at about 48c and gets as hot as 60c while gaming. I know it could run a lot cooler, but I left the sound dampening foam on the side instead of adding a fan. I also have the tower shoved in a little wooden "PC compartment" built in to my entertainment center. I'm more interested in acoustics than squeezing out every last ounce of power.
Anyway, is 60c a safe temp for this card?
Anyway, is 60c a safe temp for this card?
CarbonatedFalcon
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tehbible said:
I have a 2048x1152 one, though I keep it at 1920x1080 right now for various reasons. It's not necessarily the greatest, but I didn't have to pay for it out of my own pocket though.
I just ordered some parts and got the ASRock P67 Extreme4 GEN 3 since it was actually about the same price as the non-GEN 3 board. The difference is that the GEN 3 has support for PCI Express 3.0 which isn't even used yet in videocards but may provide some future proofing. I hadn't read about USB 3.0 issues with the board but hopefully they have fixed the problems if you are correct.AndyMoogle said:
After much deliberation I went with this build, hope it will last me a couple of years
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite Black
CPU Intel i5-2500K
Cooler CM 212+
Mobo ASUS P8P67
RAM 8GB Corsair DDR3
GPU Nvidia MSI GTX560ti Twin Frozr
HD Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB
PSU OCZ modxstream 600w
Case NZXT Source 210 Elite Black
CPU Intel i5-2500K
Cooler CM 212+
Mobo ASUS P8P67
RAM 8GB Corsair DDR3
GPU Nvidia MSI GTX560ti Twin Frozr
HD Samsung F3 Spinpoint 1TB
PSU OCZ modxstream 600w
So I bought an SSD, and finally got it installed today with Windows on it, and offloading profiles and such onto a 320GB HDD. Steam is installed on there, with my profile copied to it from my previous Windows install.
I've been looking at the SteamTool library to move a game or two to my SSD, but it appears it can't move TF2. :-( Now, I feel comfortable manually making a Junction for it, but I'm not sure if all I need to bring over is the "team fortress 2" folder from my username directory in steamapps? Is there anything else that needs to be copied over?
I've been looking at the SteamTool library to move a game or two to my SSD, but it appears it can't move TF2. :-( Now, I feel comfortable manually making a Junction for it, but I'm not sure if all I need to bring over is the "team fortress 2" folder from my username directory in steamapps? Is there anything else that needs to be copied over?
Wolf Akela
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Depends how you look at it.
SSD would improve overall performance very significantly.
In the meantime, buying a monitor now and waiting for more SSD price drops isn't too shabby either. Saves you money overtime, but you don't get dat performance boost.
SSD would improve overall performance very significantly.
In the meantime, buying a monitor now and waiting for more SSD price drops isn't too shabby either. Saves you money overtime, but you don't get dat performance boost.
Baller. PhD
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TheExodu5 said:
Sweet, maybe I'll OC this bitch for BF3.
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
Having a huge issue with my Optimum Online Internet service at the moment. I'd really appreciate any insight into what the fuck is going on.
I have Optimum Online Boost, which guarantees me 25 MB/s download and 5 MB/s upload. A few months ago (March, to be exact), I had run a speed test and my results were: 20.46 MB/s down, 5.13 MB/s up, and 14 ms latency. That's fine. However, for about a week-and-a-half now (ever since Hurricane Irene hit NYC... doubt that's related, though), my Internet has been much slower (very noticeable in games). I just ran another speed test and was shocked at the results: 6.39 MB/s down, 4.11 MB/s up, 106 ms latency. Nothing's changed between March and now--same router, same modem, same speed test, same location--everything is the same.
I called Cablevision up and of course they told me that everything on their end seemed to be fine, so I'm thinking it may be my router, but I have no way of knowing. The only difference that I can see from the speed test results is that my IP address has changed. Now why that is, I don't know. This is affecting both wired and wireless connections.
Please help!
I have Optimum Online Boost, which guarantees me 25 MB/s download and 5 MB/s upload. A few months ago (March, to be exact), I had run a speed test and my results were: 20.46 MB/s down, 5.13 MB/s up, and 14 ms latency. That's fine. However, for about a week-and-a-half now (ever since Hurricane Irene hit NYC... doubt that's related, though), my Internet has been much slower (very noticeable in games). I just ran another speed test and was shocked at the results: 6.39 MB/s down, 4.11 MB/s up, 106 ms latency. Nothing's changed between March and now--same router, same modem, same speed test, same location--everything is the same.
I called Cablevision up and of course they told me that everything on their end seemed to be fine, so I'm thinking it may be my router, but I have no way of knowing. The only difference that I can see from the speed test results is that my IP address has changed. Now why that is, I don't know. This is affecting both wired and wireless connections.
Please help!
Up the voltage, wuss!Smokey said:
Try all the parts between your computer and your pipeline. If that checks out, bitch harder at your ISP.MrOogieBoogie said:
Just ran a speedtest for myself, getting about an extra 1/3 over what I pay for.
Comcast sucks, but Comcast Business Class is amazing.
evil solrac v3.0
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what is a better card the GTX 560 or the GTX 560 ti? I want to gift it to someone but not sure which one to choose.
evil solrac v3.0
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mkenyon said:
well, it WAS going to be a surprise.....
edit: is there a big diffrence between that and a GTX 570?
mkenyon said:Up the voltage, wuss!
Try all the parts between your computer and your pipeline. If that checks out, bitch harder at your ISP.
Just ran a speedtest for myself, getting about an extra 1/3 over what I pay for.
Comcast sucks, but Comcast Business Class is amazing.
Is that with powerboost, or without? When I had Comcast I'd get a boost into the fifties, but then it would drop back around my advertised speed (which was somewhere in the 25mbps range). Powerboost rocked for downloading small to medium sized files from servers that could handle the load though (game demo's in seconds...*drool*)
I'm thinking about going back. My promo year of U-Verse is nearly up, and Comcast is cheaper for the same speed here (25/3 I think, bursts up to 50).
chewydogg said:
Get the monitor. Applications will load slower, but working on the thing will be so much simpler.
So, I'm looking at possibly upgrading my server a bit, and I was thinking about whether it would be worthwhile to upgrade the graphics card on my main rig as well.
Current specs are:
Phenom II 955BE (@stock for now)
MSI 770 C35
4GB RAM @ 1600 (stock timings)
6870 (also @stock)
64GB Crucial M4 SSD
Now, is the 6870 going to be able to handle the games coming up this fall (BF3, Skyrim, TOR mostly) at 1680 x 1050 resolution? Or is it even worthwhile to upgrade the card while I still have a 955?
or tl;dr: Cyrillus why are you running at stock!
Current specs are:
Phenom II 955BE (@stock for now)
MSI 770 C35
4GB RAM @ 1600 (stock timings)
6870 (also @stock)
64GB Crucial M4 SSD
Now, is the 6870 going to be able to handle the games coming up this fall (BF3, Skyrim, TOR mostly) at 1680 x 1050 resolution? Or is it even worthwhile to upgrade the card while I still have a 955?
or tl;dr: Cyrillus why are you running at stock!
evil solrac v3.0
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Eusis said:
nah, she wouldn't be playing the witcher 2, more like Alice 2 and maybe Metro 2033. and not at high resolutions.
mkenyon said:Up the voltage, wuss!
Try all the parts between your computer and your pipeline. If that checks out, bitch harder at your ISP.
Just ran a speedtest for myself, getting about an extra 1/3 over what I pay for.
Comcast sucks, but Comcast Business Class is amazing.
I know lol. I was at 1.1v and was feelin nervous !
How much is that business class?
MrOogieBoogie
BioShock Infinite is like playing some homeless guy's vivid imagination
mkenyon said:
Could it actually be the hurricane that fucked up something on their end? I mean, the rep reassured me that everything seemed to be fine.
Does anybody know how to get a 360 wireless controller to sync to the wireless adapter thing for computers? I had it working just fine for a couple months but I recently had to unplug everything from the back of my computer and that seems to have ruined whatever connection I had going on. You are suppose to press the little button on the controller and the button on the top of the adapter at the same time and they should sync up, but my controller just has the 4 quadrants on the ring light up and spin around and around indefinitely. I don't even have my wired controller anymore because I got this working a few months ago. Microsoft support for this thing on Windows 7 64bit is horrendous I remember the first time I got it working it was from some fan site of some sort, probably GAF actually.
Mr Nightman
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go into nvidia control panel, and go to physx config, and make sure your gpu is selected and not the cpuJtrizzy said:
Nope. It's supposed to be a 50/10 connection, but I live in a rural area so I'm not competing with too many people over the pipeline.LordCanti said:
It's normally $200, but my business office also has it so they gave me a discount for my home. I pay $125. I originally got it for a 3 day LAN at my place, but quickly got addicted. It was 5 months ago. Other benefits include no download cap and tech support has to be onsite for me within 5 hours of me calling.Smokey said:
Could be.MrOogieBoogie said:
So Amazon fucked up my 460gtx replacement and they are giving me my money back instead. I've checked around the page and for what I've seen the 6870 is in the same ball-park price wise ($200). Many options don't seem to ship to my country (Mexico) and don't really want to spend more than that because taxes+shipping it adds about $60 to any price. Other (more expensive/better) cards are not an option atm 'cause I'm handing down this one to my brother at the end of the year and building another PC for myself.
Long story short, should I go for another 460GTX (I had an MSI Cyclone but it went bad fast) or should I consider a 6870 for the same price which apparently does ship here? Thx in advance.
Long story short, should I go for another 460GTX (I had an MSI Cyclone but it went bad fast) or should I consider a 6870 for the same price which apparently does ship here? Thx in advance.
Smokey said:Tha fuck
I have their extreme 50 package and I pay that. Supposed to be 50/10. I get (from Houston, Tx) :
Mothafuckas cuttin me short on my upload. Will be calling tomorrow!
Rofl. What if they notice your download is 10 over, and they fix that while they're at it?
For what it's worth, I've heard that a lot of DOCSIS 3.0 customers on Comcast get speeds over their advertised specs. I certainly did.
Not sure if I'm willing to go up to the extreme 50mbit tier. I think a usenet account would closely follow, and that'd be one more thing I needed to pay for.
Edit: Bestill my nerdy heart...Comcast now offers this service in my area "Downloads up to 105Mbps, uploads up to 10Mbps." European (or Korean/Japanese) broadband speeds at my American house..... HNNNNNNNNNNGGGGGGGGGGGG (if only I had an extra $200 a month).
RukusProvider
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AndyMoogle said:
Gen3 is the latest. After doing a lot of research, I'll be getting the P68 extreme4 gen3 as my mobo.
ShadyLurker
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I'm going to be buying a new PC soon, and checked out NCIX (Canadian here) and they have a lot of pre-built and tested etc. machines that I like. I'm not really interested in building my own. I never have, and while I think I could get the assembly part down, the compatibility checking/ testing and the like turns me off. I'm just not interested in any of that stuff.
Anyway, after looking at their options I think I decided which one to go for. I don't think it will display the page correctly since you can choose from multiple components, so I'll list the "stock" ones.
CPU- i5 2500k overclocked @4.0Ghz, has a Coolit Systems Eco water cooling HS (2600k i7 is optional, but from the OP, it seems unnecessary)
MObo- Gigabyte Z68x (only option)
Memory-Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Power Supply-SeaSonic 620W
Hard Drive-1TB Western Digital, 7200rpm, 32 MB cache
SSD-INtel 320 40GB
Now I have a few questions since it does give multiple options for a lot of things. Or just your personal recommendations from experience(I have none) on this build of things that need to be looked at.
-CPU should be fine correct? i7 is an option, but with the extra cooling, it shouldn't be too risky to overclock that much. I don't want to constantly monitor it.
-The Video Card has many options, GTX570 for one. As well as 6950's 1 and 2 GB. I don't think I really wanna spend more, worth it? Other upgrades will then needed possibly?
-Power Supply seems low from what I've read, but maybe not. Corsair 750W and 850W are both options
- There is an option in the SSD to have it in caching mode(default), but if I got the 80Gb I could make it the boot drive. I don't know what caching will do for me, I understand why you'd want it as boot drive though. Recommendations?
Man, I thought buying it all together would make this easier :lol. Any help is appreciated PCGaf.
Anyway, after looking at their options I think I decided which one to go for. I don't think it will display the page correctly since you can choose from multiple components, so I'll list the "stock" ones.
CPU- i5 2500k overclocked @4.0Ghz, has a Coolit Systems Eco water cooling HS (2600k i7 is optional, but from the OP, it seems unnecessary)
MObo- Gigabyte Z68x (only option)
Memory-Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB
Video Card-GeForce GTX 560 Ti
Power Supply-SeaSonic 620W
Hard Drive-1TB Western Digital, 7200rpm, 32 MB cache
SSD-INtel 320 40GB
Now I have a few questions since it does give multiple options for a lot of things. Or just your personal recommendations from experience(I have none) on this build of things that need to be looked at.
-CPU should be fine correct? i7 is an option, but with the extra cooling, it shouldn't be too risky to overclock that much. I don't want to constantly monitor it.
-The Video Card has many options, GTX570 for one. As well as 6950's 1 and 2 GB. I don't think I really wanna spend more, worth it? Other upgrades will then needed possibly?
-Power Supply seems low from what I've read, but maybe not. Corsair 750W and 850W are both options
- There is an option in the SSD to have it in caching mode(default), but if I got the 80Gb I could make it the boot drive. I don't know what caching will do for me, I understand why you'd want it as boot drive though. Recommendations?
Man, I thought buying it all together would make this easier :lol. Any help is appreciated PCGaf.
ShadyLurker said:
Keep the CPU. Keep the GPU if you don't want to pay $100 more for slightly more performance. PSU is fine (Seasonic makes really high quality PSU's) unless you want to SLI at some point. If you do, go up to a 750 (unless that 620w unit is one of the 80+ gold editions from Seasonic).
Which SSD is the 80gb model? Model number makes a huge difference with SSD's (the speed and reliability difference can be enormous, even between two drives from the same manufacturer). Caching is something else entirely, and probably not worth your time if you can afford an SSD boot drive.
Oh, and the OC is very mild. Most get around 4.4/4.5 before calling it quits with their 2500k OC's.
You don't list a price. That has me worried that you are paying way too much.
ShadyLurker
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LordCanti said:
The 80Gb SSD is the same 320 series GEN3 it says.
It's price at $1200. Including Windows 7 @100.
ShadyLurker
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LordCanti said:
1 Year warranty on everything. Better than nothing I guess.
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