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[KJTB]

Hey guys, so I finally saved up my money and have placed my order for my first real gaming computer! However, I've ran into an issue with Newegg.com

Basically, I spent $1235.45 D) on my parts from newegg. I happily check my email for the order confirmation to find that there was a problem... only about 270 of it has been charged and the rest of the charge has been put on hold. I realized that this is probably because I had to use my debit card which likely has a daily spending limit on it... so here's my dilemma. Do any of you guys know if I'll just be charged daily until my order is complete? Will I have to be smacked with extra shipping fees and stuff? Im pretty frustrated... total buzzkill to see that email :/. I emailed newegg.com and hopefully they can get back to me asap. I'll probably try calling them tomorrow when they're open for calls.

If any of you guys have had to deal with this situation and know what to do I'd really appreciate some advice!

Update: Cancelled the order. Gonna just order it again with a different card tomorrow. So excited

 

[PGamer]

Is there an official place to download updated Windows OS images? The one I have is back from when Windows 7 launched and I'm tired of having to install SP1 every time I decide to reformat. I don't know of a way to get a newer one though.

 

[gokieks]

Is there an official place to download updated Windows OS images? The one I have is back from when Windows 7 launched and I'm tired of having to install SP1 every time I decide to reformat. I don't know of a way to get a newer one though.

I don't believe MS has released a ISO of W7 with SP1 rolled into it yet. You can slipstream your own though (requires having the original W7 ISO/DVD): http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ows-7-sp1-into-installation-dvd-iso-file.html

 

[RukusProvider]

I don't believe MS has released a ISO of W7 with SP1 rolled into it yet. You can slipstream your own though (requires having the original W7 ISO/DVD): http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorial...ows-7-sp1-into-installation-dvd-iso-file.html

Yes they have. Atleast on technet.

 

[Schmattakopf]

A friend of mine acquired three identical 1680x1050 monitors, and asked me for help picking a new GPU. We've decided on a 2GB 6950, but we're not sure which brand to get.

Cheapest after MIR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150530

My friend was considering this because it has two fans:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549

Another GAFfer suggested this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102945

I forget why we're considering this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575

Any opinions or suggestions?

 

[Ooccoo]

I've been pretty happy with my Powercolor. Bigger cooler and fans.
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131393

Just reading the reviews on newegg kinda put me off.

 

[Miragith]

I've just ordered my parts for a new PC build. My question is, will my Corsair TX750W suffice for an Asus Matrix 580 and i2500k? I do plan to OC the CPU. Or do I need to upgrade for an 800/850W?

 

[knitoe]

Is there an official place to download updated Windows OS images? The one I have is back from when Windows 7 launched and I'm tired of having to install SP1 every time I decide to reformat. I don't know of a way to get a newer one though.

http://www.mydigitallife.info/official-windows-7-sp1-iso-from-digital-river/

 

[n0n44m]

I've just ordered my parts for a new PC build. My question is, will my Corsair TX750W suffice for an Asus Matrix 580 and i2500k? I do plan to OC the CPU. Or do I need to upgrade for an 800/850W?

TX550 would be ok, TX650 more than sufficient, TX750 is almost overkill

(don't expect to do SLI 580 on it in the future though)

 

[Miragith]

TX550 would be ok, TX650 more than sufficient, TX750 is almost overkill

(don't expect to do SLI 580 on it in the future though)

Yay! Thanks for the quick response.

 

[Ooccoo]

Choosing a great graphic card is such a pain. I think I'll go with one of the recommendations in this thread, but the technical side is baffling.

 

[Luixfern]

Alright master race brothers, it's that time again to build a new PC, last one I built was in 2008. Here's what I'm thinking of going with;

I have a couple questions,

1.) Later on I eventually want to SLI two of those MSI cards, will that power supply be enough?

2.) What's the difference between PC3 14900 and PC3 15000 ram? (the two on my list)

3. My office tends to get rather hot, is it worth to spring for liquid cooling (h100) or is getting a hyper 212+ just as good?

4.) Is buying separate thermal compound worth it these days or is the paste supplied by intel sufficient?

 

[Tallshortman]

A friend of mine acquired three identical 1680x1050 monitors, and asked me for help picking a new GPU. We've decided on a 2GB 6950, but we're not sure which brand to get.

Cheapest after MIR:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150530

My friend was considering this because it has two fans:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150549

Another GAFfer suggested this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102945

I forget why we're considering this:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127575

Any opinions or suggestions?

All are fine though the twin frozr is fastest of the ones chosen and has the dual bios switch if he wants to try and flash it.

Make sure he understands that while AMD cards allow 3 monitors on a single card, he'll need a displayport adapter for the 3rd monitor. The FleX cards from Sapphire have the special feature of allowing 3 monitors out of the box (no need to buy an adapter).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102929&Tpk=sapphire flex 6950

So if performance is key I'd go for the MSI twin frozr while the FLex is better if he doesn't want to pay for an adapter.

 

[Schmattakopf]

All are fine though the twin frozr is fastest of the ones chosen and has the dual bios switch if he wants to try and flash it.

Make sure he understands that while AMD cards allow 3 monitors on a single card, he'll need a displayport adapter for the 3rd monitor. The FleX cards from Sapphire have the special feature of allowing 3 monitors out of the box (no need to buy an adapter).

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102929&Tpk=sapphire flex 6950

So if performance is key I'd go for the MSI twin frozr while the FLex is better if he doesn't want to pay for an adapter.

Thanks for the reply.

Apparently, all the monitors are VGA (with adapters for HDMI and DVI ports) and every 6950 on Newegg has at least one HDMI and two DVI ports. Is that okay for Eyefinity? I don't know much about multi-display/Eyefinity, so it didn't really occur to me.

Several other cards, like the other Saphire that I posted, also say they have the dual BIOS. I figure that's a gamble at this point.

 

[scogoth]

Alright master race brothers, it's that time again to build a new PC, last one I built was in 2008. Here's what I'm thinking of going with;

I have a couple questions,

1.) Later on I eventually want to SLI two of those MSI cards, will that power supply be enough?

2.) What's the difference between PC3 14900 and PC3 15000 ram? (the two on my list)

3. My office tends to get rather hot, is it worth to spring for liquid cooling (h100) or is getting a hyper 212+ just as good?

4.) Is buying separate thermal compound worth it these days or is the paste supplied by intel sufficient?

1) Yes, combined max power of 2x GTX580s is 488W if you don't over clock them.

2) Nothing really, technically PC3 15000 is 240Gbit/s memory bandwidth vs 238.9Gbit/s which is negligible.

3) Hyper 212+ should be fine, its a big air cooler and performs just as well as some water coolers. My room gets very hot with my comp running but have no problem with CPU temps using air cooling.

4) Intel doesn't supply thermal paste and the stuff that comes with the 212+ isn't that great. NT-H1 is my personal fav but others like Arctic Cooling MX-4

 

[demigod]

Damn Newegg. That MSI Lightning was out of stock this morning or I would've bought that over the zotac. Oh well $450 for 3gb ain't so bad. It's not loud during idle, haven't tested it while gaming yet. My 295 ran way hotter than this while idle.

 

[AkIRA_22]

Sure can, as long as the PS3/360 is outputting audio over HDMI.

 

[Sethos]

Got a link to these drivers ?

I don't want to accidentally install the wrong ones .

The 285.27

http://www.nvidia.co.uk/object/win7-winvista-64bit-285.27-beta-driver-uk.html

 

[demigod]

Does anyone know why 3DMark11 shows my card(Zotac 580 3gb) only have 2000mhz memory clock speed instead of 4000?

Edit : N/m, just read that it shows half the speed.

 

[Hazaro]

Just reading the reviews on newegg kinda put me off.

1 review saying fan is no good.
1 review saying it sags then died
1 review saying he thinks it is slow

You should read some motherboard reviews then :/

You don't need to buy it, but I don't feel that is enough to outcast it.

Alright master race brothers, it's that time again to build a new PC, last one I built was in 2008. Here's what I'm thinking of going with;

I have a couple questions,

1.) Later on I eventually want to SLI two of those MSI cards, will that power supply be enough?

2.) What's the difference between PC3 14900 and PC3 15000 ram? (the two on my list)

3. My office tends to get rather hot, is it worth to spring for liquid cooling (h100) or is getting a hyper 212+ just as good?

4.) Is buying separate thermal compound worth it these days or is the paste supplied by intel sufficient?

1) Yes, but I'd recommend the CM Gold 1000W or HX1050W
2) PC3 100 . Almost nothing. Get low profile RAM if possible. Snipers are OK with CM 212+ I believe. If you only buy 2 sticks it is non issue anyway.
3) A CM 212 will do you just fine.
4) With the 212 it is good paste. MX-4 is good. Temp diff is still something like 1-2C.

 

[Le-mo]

I just noticed my monitor only support up to 1680x1050 resolution. Ugh...time to get a new monitor on Thanksgiving or Christmas.

 

[Fair Trial]

I just noticed my monitor only support up to 1680x1050 resolution. Ugh...time to get a new monitor on Thanksgiving or Christmas.

Hahah, i thought that monitor resolution wasn't a thing to random notice some day, didn't you know when you bought it?

 

[Haunted]

Question!

Graphics card has one DVI out and one HDMI out.

DVI goes into my monitor (screen #1)
HDMI goes into my TV (screen #2) -> extended mode, not cloned.


Is there a possibility to split the DVI to go into two separate monitors, and making the TV screen #3? In extended mode.

 

[Darklord]

Random question, can you hook a 570 and a 260 together in sli? Would that work? Or do the cards need to be the same?

 

[Smokey]

Damn Newegg. That MSI Lightning was out of stock this morning or I would've bought that over the zotac. Oh well $450 for 3gb ain't so bad. It's not loud during idle, haven't tested it while gaming yet. My 295 ran way hotter than this while idle.

Yeah I'm waiting on them to get back in stock as well to order another for SLI. It's a highly sought after 580.

Random question, can you hook a 570 and a 260 together in sli? Would that work? Or do the cards need to be the same?

No. Have to be the same.

 

[Haunted]

Random question, can you hook a 570 and a 260 together in sli? Would that work? Or do the cards need to be the same?

I remember them having to come from at least the same GPU series, so a 2XX and a 5XX aren't compatible. But you could use the 260 as a dedicated PhysX card.

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

I may be crazy, but I swear my PC has been louder than normal the past day. I checked HWMonitor and compared it to some readings I had done prior to this "issue," and everything seemed consistent: CPU temps, GPU temps, fan speeds, etc.

Anyone know what it could be? Two of my three case fans are connected via PSU, so they don't appear on HWMonitor. I don't know, maybe it's one of them acting up?

 

[LordCanti]

I may be crazy, but I swear my PC has been louder than normal the past day. I checked HWMonitor and compared it to some readings I had done prior to this "issue," and everything seemed consistent: CPU temps, GPU temps, fan speeds, etc.

Anyone know what it could be? Two of my three case fans are connected via PSU, so they don't appear on HWMonitor. I don't know, maybe it's one of them acting up?

Could be the fan on your PSU as well. Take the side panel off your case, and turn your computer on. Wait for the noise to happen, and see if you can't locate the noise.

 

[LiquidMetal14]

I have a RADEON 6950 right now. What is the cheapest NVIDIA card that would give me PHYSX? I read some have an AMD GPU but also have another card just for PHYSX. How does this work? Does it actually help render and increase performance?

 

[Haunted]

I have a RADEON 6950 right now. What is the cheapest NVIDIA card that would give me PHYSX? I read some have an AMD GPU but also have another card just for PHYSX. How does this work? Does it actually help render and increase performance?

If you have a card dedicated to PhysX, it is dedicated to PhysX and nothing else. But what that (hopefully) does is that it frees up rendering power for the main card because that doesn't have to concern itself with the physics calculations anymore.

So yes, it should help with performance.

 

[Mully]

As of right now, I have a 750 Watt Corsair Power Supply. I am looking to SLI my 560 Ti, with either another 560 Ti or a 570. Would I have to upgrade my PSU or will I be fine?

My Rig:

PSU - Corsair 750W
CPU - Core i5 2500K
Mobo - P-67
Memory - 16GB
HDD - 2TB Hitachi Deskstar
GPU - GTX 560 Ti
Case - Antec 300.

 

[coopolon]

Question!

Graphics card has one DVI out and one HDMI out.

DVI goes into my monitor (screen #1)
HDMI goes into my TV (screen #2) -> extended mode, not cloned.


Is there a possibility to split the DVI to go into two separate monitors, and making the TV screen #3? In extended mode.

I believe you could split the DVI signal, but both monitors will show the same thing because it is the same signal. You would just look for a DVI splitter - something like this. Just make sure you read the requirements, there are several different kinds of DVI (single link and dual link).

But really I think the answer for you is no, you would have two monitors as monitor #1 showing the same thing and TV as screen #2.

 

[Smokey]

Heh. I mentioned Newegg being out of the Lightning Xtreme 580 3GB and as luck would have it I just checked a few minutes ago and bam, they were back in stock.

So with that I have just about completed Phase II of The Beast. Just ordered my 2nd MSI Lightning 580 3GB like I said I would, and threw in the Nvidia 3D Kit too. Put NewEgg next day shipping on, so I should have my new toys tomorrow. Next step is to order the 2 other 3D monitors and this build a year+ so in the making will be complete

 

[LordCanti]

As of right now, I have a 750 Watt Corsair Power Supply. I am looking to SLI my 560 Ti, with either another 560 Ti or a 570. Would I have to upgrade my PSU or will I be fine?

My Rig:

PSU - Corsair 750W
CPU - Core i5 2500K
Mobo - P-67
Memory - 16GB
HDD - 2TB Hitachi Deskstar
GPU - GTX 560 Ti
Case - Antec 300.

You'll be able to SLI fine. You'll have more headroom, depending on which model the PSU is, but any in the Corsair line should be able to SLI two 560 ti's fine @ 750w.

Edit: I figured I'd preempt the more cautious among us, and just say that I'd avoid OC'ing the cards if I were you with that PSU, unless it's the AX750. You'd be running very close to the edge of what the PSU can do potentially (unless it's one of the 80+ gold models, like the AX750). Actual games don't use as much power as the applications review sites use to test power consumption (100% CPU and GPU usage, which almost never happens in a real game) but there it is. I don't think you'd be taking too much of a risk though, assuming you didn't massively overvolt and OC both of the cards.

 

[Hawk269]

Heh. I mentioned Newegg being out of the Lightning Xtreme 580 3GB and as luck would have it I just checked a few minutes ago and bam, they were back in stock.

So with that I have just about completed Phase II of The Beast. Just ordered my 2nd MSI Lightning 580 3GB like I said I would, and threw in the Nvidia 3D Kit too. Put NewEgg next day shipping on, so I should have my new toys tomorrow. Next step is to order the 2 other 3D monitors and this build a year+ so in the making will be complete

Damn Smokey....Go man..Go!!!! Lol

For reference, I am at 932mhz with a 1.114 Volt in SLI, max temp on the top card hits 78c after 1 1/2 hours of Unigine, 2 Runs of 3dmark11, 2 runs of Metro2033 Bench and rock solid. Let us know what you are able to hit when you get the 2nd baby installed. Oh MSI recommends using the SLI connector closest the rear bracket if you are 2xSLI. Just an FYI.

Anyways have fun man...let us know how it goes and give us some details on the 3d. I am thinking of doing the 3d myself.

 

[VibratingDonkey]

Took some comparison pics between my old and new monitor.

17"1024x768 vs 23"1080p. Oh god oh man.

Also, I've got a tiny but kind of big problem. The computer mostly won't start up when I press the power switch. I'm almost confident it's the power switch cable not grabbing onto the motherboard pin as well as it should. Basically I've been poking a little at the front panel cables and eventually the power switch does what it's supposed to.

I don't feel comfortable removing the side, switching off the PSU, hopefully grounding myself, and poking at the motherboard every time I'm turning on the computer.

Gonna try removing the Asus front panel adapter thing in case that's bugged somehow. Otherwise I guess I'll see if I can get the retailer to pay for a local shop to fix the thing. Such a stupid shitty problem.

RE overclocking
How much room do you reckon there is for CPU(2500k) and GPU(GTX570) overclocking with a Corsair HX620W?

 

[datamage]

I'm thinking I gimped myself with the Corsair HX750. I never planned on SLI, but I hate knowing I won't be able to due to my power supply. Ah well.

Good stuff Smokey, overnight, just like I'd do it. To hell with free 3-day shipping.

 

[LordCanti]

I'm thinking I gimped myself with the Corsair HX750. I never planned on SLI, but I hate knowing I won't be able to due to my power supply. Ah well.

Good stuff Smokey, overnight, just like I'd do it. To hell with free 3-day shipping.

What cards are you wanting to SLI?

RE overclocking
How much room do you reckon there is for CPU(2500k) and GPU(GTX570) overclocking with a Corsair HX620W?

PSU shouldn't hold you back. OC away (guide in OP for the 2500k. Not sure about 570.)

 

[MrOogieBoogie]

Heh. I mentioned Newegg being out of the Lightning Xtreme 580 3GB and as luck would have it I just checked a few minutes ago and bam, they were back in stock.

So with that I have just about completed Phase II of The Beast. Just ordered my 2nd MSI Lightning 580 3GB like I said I would, and threw in the Nvidia 3D Kit too. Put NewEgg next day shipping on, so I should have my new toys tomorrow. Next step is to order the 2 other 3D monitors and this build a year+ so in the making will be complete

I don't care if it's rude or not to ask, but where the fuck do you get the money? What do you do?

 

[RukusProvider]

OC it using something like MSI afterburner. Core and Shader are locked together I think (so if you up one, the other goes with it). If that is a limitation of Afterburner, nevermind. Shader should end up being something along the lines of 1800.

I don't touch the memory clock. You may be able to get a little more out of it, but I'm not sure it's worth it.

Needless to say, do the OC, and then check your temps using a program like EVGA's OC scanner (or a benchmarking application Uniengine). I like to stay under 75 or so degrees.

Check to make sure you actually need the extra performance first. You may not, because the 580 is already a beefy card.

I downloaded afterburner, moved the core upto 50 (from 815 to 875) and it locked up right away trying the Heaven benchmark. Do I need to apply voltage?

I have a stock cooler. Do you know what the safe voltage/temps are for a stock cooler?

 

[LordCanti]

I downloaded afterburner, moved the core upto 50 (from 815 to 875) and it locked up right away trying the Heaven benchmark. Do I need to apply voltage?

I have a stock cooler. Do you know what the safe voltage/temps are for a stock cooler?

If it locked up, you could apply voltage, but you shouldn't need to with such a small OC. What is the stock voltage (is it being undervolted for some reason)?

With my stock 580, I'm currently stable at 875 Core, 1756 shader @ 1082mV (stock for my card) in MSI Afterburner.

Memory is 2025 (untouched).

Oh, and 50 idle (it's hot in the room where my GPU is. Not much I can do about it). Yours should be lower, unless your room is also hot.

About 70c @ 60% fan and full load.

 

[RukusProvider]

If it locked up, you could apply voltage, but you shouldn't need to with such a small OC. What is the stock voltage (is it being undervolted for some reason)?

With my stock 580, I'm currently stable at 875 Core, 1756 shader @ 1082mV (stock for my card) in MSI Afterburner.

Memory is 2025 (untouched).

I turned on the GPU voltage monitoring.

Under voltage it shows:

min: 0.963
max: 1.025

 

[Luixfern]

Heh. I mentioned Newegg being out of the Lightning Xtreme 580 3GB and as luck would have it I just checked a few minutes ago and bam, they were back in stock.

So with that I have just about completed Phase II of The Beast. Just ordered my 2nd MSI Lightning 580 3GB like I said I would, and threw in the Nvidia 3D Kit too. Put NewEgg next day shipping on, so I should have my new toys tomorrow. Next step is to order the 2 other 3D monitors and this build a year+ so in the making will be complete

My plan is to eventually SLI 2 of those cards, what power supply are you using?

 

[LordCanti]

I turned on the GPU voltage monitoring.

Under voltage it shows:

min: 0.963
max: 1.025

Maybe my card came factory overvolted. What model is yours again? Either way, a slight bump to 1.082 (where I have mine) should be safe, since the manufacturer did it (EVGA) to a stock card. You could try incrementally upping the voltage until it's stable (I'd stop short of 1.1 though).

So if I SLI 570 1GBs down the road, will I still be limited by games that want more than 1G of VRAM? I'm guessing yes.

Playing at 1080p, how likely are games in the future to require more than 1GB?

Some do now. Notably Crysis, Crysis 2, and GTA IV (after the Iceenhancer mod) of the games I've played with my 580. I see anywhere from 1gb to 1.3 @ 1080p in those games.

 

[squicken]

So if I SLI 570 1GBs down the road, will I still be limited by games that want more than 1G of VRAM? I'm guessing yes.

Playing at 1080p, how likely are games in the future to require more than 1GB?

 

[opticalmace]

Thinking about overclocking my 2500K (w/ 212+) but wanted to check stock temps first.

Idle is ~low 30s, prime95 blend around 49C (only ran it for a couple minutes but temps seemed stable).

Are these temps as good as I can expect? In a Antec 900. The shop I bought the mobo/cpu/heatsink from mounted it up for me to test that the components were working in the store, so I don't know what compound they used.

I have some arctic silver here. Should I reapply the paste? I only ask because my old E8500 system idled in the 20s (forget the heatsink name).

 

[RukusProvider]

Maybe my card came factory overvolted. What model is yours again? Either way, a slight bump to 1.082 (where I have mine) should be safe, since the manufacturer did it (EVGA) to a stock card. You could try incrementally upping the voltage until it's stable (I'd stop short of 1.1 though).

I have the zotac GTX AMP. I'll try 1.082. Thanks man.

 

[datamage]

What cards are you wanting to SLI?

GTX 580s- (MSI Lightnings to be precise.) Though, chances of me ever doing it are pretty slim.

 

[datamage]

Thinking about overclocking my 2500K (w/ 212+) but wanted to check stock temps first.

Idle is ~30C, prime95 blend around 49C (only ran it for a couple minutes but temps seemed stable).

Are these temps as good as I can expect? In a Antec 900. The shop I bought the mobo/cpu/heatsink from mounted it up for me to test that the components were working in the store, so I don't know what compound they used.

I have some arctic silver here. Should I reapply the paste? I only ask because my old E8500 system idled in the 20s (forget the heatsink name).

Those temps look ok to me. What are you using to check your temps?

Recommended load temps vary from person to person, some say to stay under 70, others say under 80, 90, etc. At 98, the cpu starts to throttle down to prevent damage.

 

[opticalmace]

Those temps look ok to me. What are you using to check your temps?

Recommended load temps vary from person to person, some say to stay under 70, others say under 80, 90, etc. At 98, the cpu starts to throttle down to prevent damage.

Thanks, I'm using Speccy and SpeedFan. Is there something else I should use?