"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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Smokey said:
What is with the females not trusting their dudes to put something together in this thread?!
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I can understand the sentiment, they probably think it's a lot more complicated than it really is.

Just have them watch the Tested vid on building a PC to show how simple it really is.

http://www.tested.com/news/video-how-to-build-the-best-1500-gaming-pc-step-by-step/152/

It gets a little trickier if you don't use a stock CPU cooler, but it's not that much more difficult if you're careful.
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
To be honest I think I could get it functioning, but I doubt that I won't screw something up during the software installation/setup.
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You literally just throw a Windows/Linux/etc disc in, and click "Ok" at a bunch of prompts. You get the satisfaction of not having a bunch of HP/Dell/etc crapware on your computer as well, since it's a clean install.

I understand the hesitation though. The first time I built a computer years ago, I had to convince my mother that a computer could actually be built from scratch. Literally, I had to explain that computers weren't just things you purchased pre-made from Best Buy or Circuit City. The idea was so foreign, that even after the explanation, she wondered why anyone would want the bother of doing it themselves.

I've never had a girlfriend mind though. Probably because I've never told a girlfriend I was going to do it. It's not like most girlfriends are going to notice a new computer anyway (especially if you use the old case).
 
LordCanti said:
You literally just throw a Windows/Linux/etc disc in, and click "Ok" at a bunch of prompts. You get the satisfaction of not having a bunch of HP/Dell/etc crapware on your computer as well, since it's a clean install.

I understand the hesitation though. The first time I built a computer years ago, I had to convince my mother that a computer could actually be built from scratch. Literally, I had to explain that computers weren't just things you purchased pre-made from Best Buy or Circuit City. The idea was so foreign, that even after the explanation, she wondered why anyone would want the bother of doing it themselves.

I've never had a girlfriend mind though. Probably because I've never told a girlfriend I was going to do it. It's not like most girlfriends are going to notice a new computer anyway (especially if you use the old case).
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Guess I'm just fortunate. In my situation it was hard to NOT notice the daily boxes showing up that needed signatures :p. When I put mine together she came over and helped a brotha out on many occassions. Namely those where I was pissed off with my H70. She comes over and helped and at one point seeing that I was getting pissed took it and did exactly what I was trying to do and goes "that's it"?

Yes that's it thanks lol
 
XiaNaphryz said:
I can understand the sentiment, they probably think it's a lot more complicated than it really is.

Just have them watch the Tested vid on building a PC to show how simple it really is.

http://www.tested.com/news/video-how-to-build-the-best-1500-gaming-pc-step-by-step/152/

It gets a little trickier if you don't use a stock CPU cooler, but it's not that much more difficult if you're careful.
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I've tried, believe me, I've tried. Granted I also need to point out I do have a lack of skill with computer repairs in the past, so it's not completely without merit.

LordCanti said:
In a year and a half to two years, you'll want to upgrade your video card (sooner if you get a sudden desire to play Battlefield 3 or its ilk on high settings).

Other than that, you should be able to get a good three-four years out of it.

Is that processor the 2500K or the 2500? Make sure it's the K model, because that is the one that is good for overclocking (which will extend the life of your computer for sure).
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Cool, I'll keep that in mind. It seems closer to what I'll do if I have the computer built.

That said is their anything wrong with this motherboard, it seems cheap as hell by from the P8P67 line.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358071

That said the problem may have just solved itself.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354506#openbox

I'm thinking of the open box unit.

How do the specs on that seem? I haven't found much on the graphics card. Their is only one PCI slot, but I could live with that. Let me guess it's a crappy onboard card. lol

It's just an idea, and I like the thought of getting it tonight and being able to use it right away. :)
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I've tried, believe me, I've tried. Granted I also need to point out I do have a lack of skill with computer repairs in the past, so it's not completely without merit.


Cool, I'll keep that in mind. It seems closer to what I'll do if I have the computer built.

That said the problem may have just solved itself.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354506#openbox

I'm thinking of the open box unit.

How do the specs on that seem? I haven't found much on the graphics card. Their is only one PCI slot, but I could live with that. Let me guess it's a crappy onboard card. lol

It's just an idea, and I like the thought of getting it tonight and being able to use it right away. :)
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Yep, crappy onboard card. 2600 instead of the 2600k processor. 5400rpm (slow) primary drive, cramped POS case, etc. Who knows what kind of PSU, so there is no way to tell if you'd be able to swap in a better video card without swapping out the PSU.

Just not as good a deal as what you could build yourself.

Smokey said:
Guess I'm just fortunate. In my situation it was hard to NOT notice the daily boxes showing up that needed signatures :p. When I put mine together she came over and helped a brotha out on many occassions. Namely those where I was pissed off with my H70. She comes over and helped and at one point seeing that I was getting pissed took it and did exactly what I was trying to do and goes "that's it"?

Yes that's it thanks lol
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I've never lived with a girlfriend (I'm a college student) but if I did, I guess I'd have to ship my packages to my parents house, and then go and retrieve them. Girlfriend goes to work/school/etc, I go build my computer, and she's none the wiser.

Or I could just man up and say "Woman, I'm building a computer now. Stand back, this is mans work". After receiving a slap, I could then ask for assistance in routing my cables behind the motherboard, and applying thermal paste. ...Like a man though. Manly, at all times.
 
LordCanti said:
Yep, crappy onboard card. 2600 instead of the 2600k processor. 5400rpm (slow) primary drive, cramped POS case, etc. Who knows what kind of PSU, so there is no way to tell if you'd be able to swap in a better video card without swapping out the PSU.

Just not as good a deal as what you could build yourself.
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I figured as much. Well better to get that delusion out of my head. lol

That said I was able to put to get a ~$650 computer to build.

Is this a decent motherboard?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358071

Is this a decent graphics card?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348985

If those are good I'm going to laugh at the idea I was going to need to order the entire computer from Canada when the parts were decently priced right near by.

All the other parts
Processor 2500k
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
Case with power supply
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348985
Memory (some random ass type...not that bad)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0326414
20 buck DVD Burner Drive
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0322335
1.5 TB Hitachi
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0366709
 
What the heck is up with PSUs these days? I got my Corsair 750W for my last computer on sale at Microcenter for $79.99 after rebate a few years ago. I can't believe I'm having trouble finding a comparable brand for around the same price. Maybe I just got really lucky.

I'll keep shopping around, hopefully something will show up. If not I'll just pull that one out and put it in the new one...never did need that much power for it.
 
LordCanti said:
I've never lived with a girlfriend (I'm a college student) but if I did, I guess I'd have to ship my packages to my parents house, and then go and retrieve them. Girlfriend goes to work/school/etc, I go build my computer, and she's none the wiser.

Or I could just man up and say "Woman, I'm building a computer now. Stand back, this is mans work". After receiving a slap, I could then ask for assistance in routing my cables behind the motherboard, and applying thermal paste. ...Like a man though. Manly, at all times.
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When you're making joint financial decisions its a lot more difficult to just tell them you're spending $1500 and they have no say. Not to mention its her computer too, forgot to mention she's a gamer too.
 
Smokey said:
Yes to both.
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brucewaynegretzky said:
When you're making joint financial decisions its a lot more difficult to just tell them you're spending $1500 and they have no say. Not to mention its her computer too, forgot to mention she's a gamer too.
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While this is true, I bought her own laptop about a month before my Master Plan started coming together.

All about planning and thinking ahead :p
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
I figured as much. Well better to get that delusion out of my head. lol

That said I was able to put to get a ~$650 computer to build.

Is this a decent motherboard?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358071

Is this a decent graphics card?
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348985

If those are good I'm going to laugh at the idea I was going to need to order the entire computer from Canada when the parts were decently priced right near by.

All the other parts
Processor 2500k
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0354589
Case with power supply
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0348985
Memory (some random ass type...not that bad)
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0326414
20 buck DVD Burner Drive
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0322335
1.5 TB Hitachi
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0366709
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That memory isn't really discounted from the price of memory you could get from G.Skill or a similar company off of Newegg, so I wouldn't go with it. If you can't buy from newegg for whatever reason, I would pay a few more dollars for RAM from a known vendor.

Your case link goes to the GTX 460, so I can't comment on whichever case you picked. The GTX 460 is probably the best GPU you could get while staying around $600, and EVGA is a great brand, so I see no problems there.

The mobo is more than you probably need. It's got Tri and Quad SLI support, which it sounds like you'll never use. It's also Micro ATX (smaller, more cramped) You could go with a cheaper Asus model, or something more along the lines of this (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358080) if you'll never SLI, this if you will (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358172) or the ASrock suggested in the $600 build in the OP.

I don't see any other issues from here.


brucewaynegretzky said:
When you're making joint financial decisions its a lot more difficult to just tell them you're spending $1500 and they have no say. Not to mention its her computer too, forgot to mention she's a gamer too.
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I would never make joint financial decisions with a girlfriend, nor would I consider my computer partly hers. I guess I'm not a traditionalist on those types of issues, because even after marriage, I plan to have "my" computer, while she'll have hers. Things that are unavoidably entangled, like a house, I obviously won't mind sharing. Our house, our yard, our bed, but MY COMPUTER so help me God.
 
LordCanti said:
That memory isn't really discounted from the price of memory you could get from G.Skill or a similar company off of Newegg, so I wouldn't go with it. If you can't buy from newegg for whatever reason, I would pay a few more dollars for RAM from a known vendor.
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Okay, that's fine. I think I was more just trying to find those 18 minutes reserved items lol. I couldn't find G.Skill at Microcenter. Is Kingston alright to go with? Apparently I can just have them do the build there and since there is no shipping even if the build is a little more, the overall price is still far less.

Your case link goes to the GTX 460, so I can't comment on whichever case you picked. The GTX 460 is probably the best GPU you could get while staying around $600, and EVGA is a great brand, so I see no problems there.
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Here is the case link
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0357902

Good to hear on the graphics card though.

The mobo is more than you probably need. It's got Tri and Quad SLI support, which it sounds like you'll never use. It's also Micro ATX (smaller, more cramped) You could go with a cheaper Asus model, or something more along the lines of this (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358080) if you'll never SLI, this if you will (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0358172) or the ASrock suggested in the $600 build in the OP.
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Okay, SLI is only if you intend to do two graphics cards as once, right? If that's the case I guess I can go with the cheaper one...then again I'd hate to be kicking myself a year or two down the road.

Thanks!

Well hopefully this will now all be locked up tonight and with any luck I can go get the parts and start the build process.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. I put the mobo in the cart and it went from 134 to 94.99! That's either an error, really good luck, or some evil older model with a high failure rate! lol
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Okay, that's fine. I think I was more just trying to find those 18 minutes reserved items lol. I couldn't find G.Skill at Microcenter. Is Kingston alright to go with? Apparently I can just have them do the build there and since there is no shipping even if the build is a little more, the overall price is still far less.


Here is the case link
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0357902

Good to hear on the graphics card though.


Okay, SLI is only if you intend to do two graphics cards as once, right? If that's the case I guess I can go with the cheaper one...then again I'd hate to be kicking myself a year or two down the road.

Thanks!

Well hopefully this will now all be locked up tonight and with any luck I can go get the parts and start the build process.


EDIT: HOLY SHIT. I put the mobo in the cart and it went from 134 to 94.99! That's either an error, really good luck, or some evil older model with a high failure rate! lol
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Yep, that's what SLI is. If you plan to ever SLI, go with an SLI board (know that you'll need a new PSU to do so)

I can't find any information on that case, nor on what PSU may be inside of it. I really have no idea if it is going to have enough power for your system. It says 500w, but it doesn't offer any other details. 500w from a good brand would be plenty, but if it's 500w from some junk brand, it could be kind of wonky. For $36, it's worth a shot though, I guess (you'd pay double or more for a case + a separate power supply).

Oh, and most RAM has free shipping at Newegg (since it's such a small box). Kingston should be fine, but I'd punch the model # into Newegg, and make sure it's reasonably well rated first.


Mr Nightman said:
I would personally avoid a case and psu bundle, especially for that low of a price, I suggest you get a case, and a nicer psu separately. Never want to skimp on a cheap psu, that could possibly blow down the line, taking out components with it

Edit: My buddies using this psu, seems to work just great with a gtx 460
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I agree with this. No point blowing out a $600 build with a free PSU (POS).
 
Ayo said:
Can anyone recommend really good Mouse and Keyboards?

I prefer medium-big mice
and for Keyboards illuminated keys is a big big must for me because I prefer to play in the dark.

The cheaper the better but not compromising on quality of course.

Here's a keyboard I found so far that I dig.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114004
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For a keyboard, I highly recommend the logitech illuminated slim keyboard, have had mine for a month now, and its just great.

As for the mouse, I am using the logitech mx-518, and again highly recommend it
 
Ayo said:
Can anyone recommend really good Mouse and Keyboards?

I prefer medium-big mice
and for Keyboards illuminated keys is a big big must for me because I prefer to play in the dark.

The cheaper the better but not compromising on quality of course.

Here's a keyboard I found so far that I dig.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114004
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Logitech MX 518 is a great gaming mouse for a low price. Or the Razer Deathadder if you want to spend a bit more.

They are both very popular, so you're bound to find alot of impressions with a bit of searching on google.
 
With Skyrim around the corner and an unopened copy of Witcher 2 sitting on my desk, I felt it was time to start looking into upgrading my PC. I won't have the funds to build an entirely new machine till year end so I was curious to try an incremental upgrade. Here's what I currently have:

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 940
Kingston 4 gigs ddr2 1066
Geforce 9600gt
some old 5400rpm hdd

Been a while since I've used this desktop, noticed that things hitch whenever it's accessing the HD (games, browsing, file copying, etc), so that probably needs to get replaced as well.

I was planning on starting with the video card, jumping to a GTX 560 Ti, then pick up a new hdd. Would that be worthwhile for now or should I wait to just build from scratch?
 
brucewaynegretzky said:
How future proof do you guys think most of your PCs are? How often do you have to buy a new rig? I'm thinking about getting a desktop for the first time in years in a few months, but I don't want to have to buy one again for a long time. I'd preferably like to get something where I know there will be a support line I can call when I have problems. I read the OP, but I still don't know what everything means in terms of longevity. I'll need it for work too, but that will be only word processing, so really it just needs to be stable. I'd also like to be able to get in on Steam deals.
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A good Sandy Bridge rig now is pretty solid. An easy 3 years if you sub out the GPU, with the possibility of a slight CPU upgrade (Say from a 2100 to a newer quad).
LordCanti said:
IIs that processor the 2500K or the 2500? Make sure it's the K model, because that is the one that is good for overclocking (which will extend the life of your computer for sure).
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He had an H67 board with the 2500 to save some money, but if he's spending more might as well get the 2500K + a cheaper P67 board (Like the MSI 43 or Asus P8P67 Pro -M (mATX, smaller).
EatChildren said:
Update on this, but it seems the vcore was the issue. I think. Stability was still shot to shit after fixing the RAM timings, so I dialed back my OC from 4.5Ghz to 4.3Ghz. Haven't had a blue screen since.
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Sounds about right. My chip did 4.5 on 1.3V but I got a blue screen once over 5 days. I just dialed it back to 4.4Ghz and haven't had a problem.
Pai Pai Master said:
What the heck is up with PSUs these days? I got my Corsair 750W for my last computer on sale at Microcenter for $79.99 after rebate a few years ago. I can't believe I'm having trouble finding a comparable brand for around the same price. Maybe I just got really lucky.

I'll keep shopping around, hopefully something will show up. If not I'll just pull that one out and put it in the new one...never did need that much power for it.
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Well the components in PSU's don't change that much. Right now everyone is being more competitive in modular supplies and efficiency so costs have been around the same.
The V2 line is good for most.
Ayo said:
Can anyone recommend really good Mouse and Keyboards?

I prefer medium-big mice
and for Keyboards illuminated keys is a big big must for me because I prefer to play in the dark.

The cheaper the better but not compromising on quality of course.

Here's a keyboard I found so far that I dig.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823114004
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Might as well get a mechanical BlackWidow Ultimate keyboard for that much + a little.
spandexmonkey said:
With Skyrim around the corner and an unopened copy of Witcher 2 sitting on my desk, I felt it was time to start looking into upgrading my PC. I won't have the funds to build an entirely new machine till year end so I was curious to try an incremental upgrade. Here's what I currently have:

GIGABYTE GA-MA790X-UD4P Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 940
Kingston 4 gigs ddr2 1066
Geforce 9600gt
some old 5400rpm hdd

Been a while since I've used this desktop, noticed that things hitch whenever it's accessing the HD (games, browsing, file copying, etc), so that probably needs to get replaced as well.

I was planning on starting with the video card, jumping to a GTX 560 Ti, then pick up a new hdd. Would that be worthwhile for now or should I wait to just build from scratch?
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Very worthwhile to add a new GPU in. Just make sure your PSU can handle it.
 
LordCanti said:
Yep, that's what SLI is. If you plan to ever SLI, go with an SLI board (know that you'll need a new PSU to do so)
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You mean to have something with a higher wattage, right?

LordCanti said:
Oh, and most RAM has free shipping at Newegg (since it's such a small box). Kingston should be fine, but I'd punch the model # into Newegg, and make sure it's reasonably well rated first.
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I know, but you have to get everything at the place for them to build it. Though personally I just want to try and build the damn thing myself, but trying to do it on a work night (and thus rush, no have enough time to do all the software install, etc, isn't really worth the hassle).

LordCanti said:
I can't find any information on that case, nor on what PSU may be inside of it. I really have no idea if it is going to have enough power for your system. It says 500w, but it doesn't offer any other details. 500w from a good brand would be plenty, but if it's 500w from some junk brand, it could be kind of wonky. For $36, it's worth a shot though, I guess (you'd pay double or more for a case + a separate power supply).
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Mr Nightman said:
I would personally avoid a case and psu bundle, especially for that low of a price, I suggest you get a case, and a nicer psu separately. Never want to skimp on a cheap psu, that could possibly blow down the line, taking out components with it

Edit: My buddies using this psu, seems to work just great with a gtx 460
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Oh okay, well I'll just go for a separate power supply than. No need to sepnd all this effort and have a cheap PSU screw it up.
 
Ayo said:
Whoa. That's like $60 extra :\
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Only $50 more for mechanical. So pretty.
For what it is worth I used that KB at a friend's house and didn't like it, so make sure you like those types of keys.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Here is the case link
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0357902
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You should not in any way, shape, or form, consider spending money on that. If you weren't aware, that isn't a Cooler Master case, Micro Center has just made an oversight that they've yet to correct.

This can't be said enough: Don't cut corners on your motherboard, PSU, or case.


Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Here is the new power supply.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0277108 (it's 460 watt). I have no idea if that's what is needed, so if I'm wrong please say so. I think otherwise this is all locked up!
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See above.


Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Okay here is the new case
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0339423
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Here's a much better option:

http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0351733

If you don't trust me, compare them.
 
Manos:The Hans of Fate said:
You mean to have something with a higher wattage, right?
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Yeah. For dual 460'd, you'd be looking at...mm...700w? At least? (hard to say without a PSU calculator in front of me).

I didn't realize that microcenter built computers O_O. I've been in there enough, but I guess I never noticed.

If you are going for a different power supply, I'd go for another case. Two 3.5" bays (HDD) is really low. How about this one?http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0340862

It's the best, cheapest one I see at Micro Center (anyone else see any better ones?)

Did you budget in the cost of Windows?
 
Hazaro said:
Only $50 more for mechanical. So pretty.
For what it is worth I used that KB at a friend's house and didn't like it, so make sure you like those types of keys.
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I can always hope the price drops by the time I plan to buy parts for my rig in October.
Any req's for a mouse?
 
Get an Antec 380W (It has more 12V power than that 460W) or my suggestion, the OCZ ModxStream Pro 500w.
Note the Antec does not come with a power cord.
Ayo said:
I can always hope the price drops by the time I plan to buy parts for my rig in October.
Any req's for a mouse?
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Mouse I'd say go to ____ store and try a bunch.

Easy recommendations from me:
MX518
G9
G500
LordCanti said:
Yeah. For dual 460'd, you'd be looking at...mm...700w? At least? (hard to say without a PSU calculator in front of me).
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A good 550W would do it. Wonder if the XFX Core 550W could.
Connectors can be a problem though.
 
Hazaro said:
A good 550W would do it.
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Since he's stuck buying from Microcenter, I'd be worried about any 550w PSU's in his budget O_O

I take it that Microcenter's game is that they'll sell you the CPU at a discount, and then jack you on the other components?

(One more vote for the MX 518. Mine has served me well.)
 
LordCanti said:
Since he's stuck buying from Microcenter, I'd be worried about any 550w PSU's in his budget O_O

I take it that Microcenter's game is that they'll sell you the CPU at a discount, and then jack you on the other components?

(One more vote for the MX 518. Mine has served me well.)
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A 600W ModxStream would do fine. You'd have no molex adapters, but it should work.

MC slashes CPU deals to get you to come in. Most of their prices are alright.
 
Okay, I've switched to ·feist's recommend case. Now for the power supply can someone just give me a link? :)

I know, use my head, but in short the wife gave approval and I want to lock this up in the next 30 minutes so I can head over tonight. I'm also hopelessly confused on the power supply issue. For the moment I'm not SLI'ing, so no need to worry about that.

EDIT: Now I'm not sure about the case. Lord, feist, which should I pick?

Ah I fully look forward to driving myself nuts with software installation lol
 
The GX 518 is sold out on newegg but I found it on amazon, and I like, I also really dig the G9x.

One last question, I wanna go i7 for the HT so I can do good video along with gaming, but I don't know if I should get the 2600 or 2600k. Also I don't know if I should get a GTX580 or 570. I really would like the 580 but if it doesn't drop in price I might get the 570 or an all new card of slight equivalent altogether.
 
Manos: The Hans of Fate said:
Nah, I need a cheaper power supply. I need it to be no more than 50 dollars. The other one isn't in stock at the PA Microcenter.
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I'm having a hard time figuring out which PSU's are actually in stock at microcenter locations, but if this one is, it doesn't seem too bad (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0360839). It's cheaper on Newegg, but then again, which component (other than the CPU) isn't?

(Here it is on Newegg: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171046)

Edit: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341043&Tpk=800w OCZ

Four or five Newegg comments doesn't mean everything, but their experiences weren't stellar. If microcenter's return policy is great on refurbs, that will be fine. If it's not, that extra power is going to waste in your system anyway, so I'd go with a lesser (more stable) PSU.
 
LordCanti said:
I apologize in advance for the $200 copy of Windows that is going to turn this $600 build into an $800 build.
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Nah, I have Windows XP discs lying around somewhere, because this exact thing happened before. Now to just pray my dad still has them or that they're lying around in my parents house.

In fairness with sales tax it's already a $704 build. It doesn't include the build cost. Though I could try and convince my wife to just let me build it tonight...yeah like that's going to work lol.
 
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