"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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I want to take a moment and say how awesome this GAF thread is. What took me weeks of web surfing 4-ish years ago when I embarked on my first rig-building journey this time took 1 week of lurking and reading this thread.

Now, I think I've finalized my list of components. If you guys could comment on it, I'd very much appreciate it. Not all the parts on it will be bought from Newegg. Also, I want to include an SSD but I don't think I can fit it into my budget -- I'm already over by $50 as it is.

Reusing an optical drive, monitor and keyboard/mouse and Win7Pro. I'm not sure if I should transfer over my 1000w Antec PSU to this new rig.

(The Lian Li was a last minute sub thanks to feist :) )
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WonkersTHEWatilla said:
I want to take a moment and say how awesome this GAF thread is. What took me weeks of web surfing 4-ish years ago when I embarked on my first rig-building journey took 1 week of lurking and reading.

Now, I think I've finalized my list of components. If you guys could comment on it, I'd very much appreciate it. Not all the parts on it will be bought from Newegg.

Reusing an optical drive, monitor and keyboard/mouse and Win7Pro. I'm not sure if I should transfer over my 1000w Antec PSU to this new rig.

(The Lian Li was a last minute sub thanks to feist :) )
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Any reason you aren't going to transfer over your Antec PSU? It'd work just fine and will save you a bit of cash. Otherwise, it looks good. +1 for the Twin Frozr, definitely a good choice.
 
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
I want to take a moment and say how awesome this GAF thread is. What took me weeks of web surfing 4-ish years ago when I embarked on my first rig-building journey this time took 1 week of lurking and reading this thread.

Now, I think I've finalized my list of components. If you guys could comment on it, I'd very much appreciate it. Not all the parts on it will be bought from Newegg. Also, I want to include an SSD but I don't think I can fit it into my budget -- I'm already over by $50 as it is.

Reusing an optical drive, monitor and keyboard/mouse and Win7Pro. I'm not sure if I should transfer over my 1000w Antec PSU to this new rig.

(The Lian Li was a last minute sub thanks to feist :) )
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Transfer over your 1000W PSU. Use the saved money on a 60 SSD for OS. It offers a huge improvement in Windows performance.
 
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
Now, I think I've finalized my list of components. If you guys could comment on it, I'd very much appreciate it. Not all the parts on it will be bought from Newegg. Also, I want to include an SSD but I don't think I can fit it into my budget -- I'm already over by $50 as it is.

Reusing an optical drive, monitor and keyboard/mouse and Win7Pro. I'm not sure if I should transfer over my 1000w Antec PSU to this new rig.
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I know you have a top of the line GPU there, but since you want a SSD so much, maybe you should consider getting someting like a 560ti and using that money to get the SSD.
 
Soka said:
Any reason you aren't going to transfer over your Antec PSU? It'd work just fine and will save you a bit of cash. Otherwise, it looks good. +1 for the Twin Frozr, definitely a good choice.
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knitoe said:
Transfer over your 1000W PSU. Use the saved money on a 60 SSD for OS. It offers a huge improvement in Windows performance.
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I've had some intermittent issues in the past with it. Sometimes the fans wouldn't throttle down. It hasn't happened lately, though. It's an Antec Truepower Quattro.

Maybe I will just reuse it. Thanks.

DigiMish said:
I know you have a top of the line GPU there, but since you want a SSD so much, maybe you should consider getting someting like a 560ti and using that money to get the SSD.
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I thought about it for a while, but I wanted a single-card solution that'll last me a while. The thought of picking up a 560ti or 570 now and another later for SLi does interest me though.

And I really only wanted a ~80gb SSD for Windows and maybe a few games. Nothing too fancy.
 
Deadstar said:
I want to go LED because of eye strain. I'm hoping that the different technology can help my eyes. I don't really care about quality. Just need the pain to go away.

Many Acer monitors typically have a refresh rate of 75. 60 hz is unnaceptable even with D3Doverrider. I'm tired of screen tearing. I paid a lot of money for my system and I'm not going to waste it with a garbage monitor.

Asus 75 hz
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It's not a different technology, it's just different lights in the back of the panel. Don't confuse this with TV LED technology. Go to best buy, look at monitors. Eye strain is so subjective tha the only person who can answer your question is you.
 
I wanna go i7 for the HT so I can do good video along with gaming, but I don't know if I should get the 2600 or 2600k. Also I don't know if I should get a GTX580 or 570. I really would like the 580 but if it doesn't drop in price I might get the 570 or an all new card of slight equivalent altogether.
 
Ayo said:
I wanna go i7 for the HT so I can do good video along with gaming, but I don't know if I should get the 2600 or 2600k. Also I don't know if I should get a GTX580 or 570. I really would like the 580 but if it doesn't drop in price I might get the 570 or an all new card of slight equivalent altogether.
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2600k
570, resell, upgrade. I find it easier to do this with mid-high end cards, tougher to sell the top end ones unless you really give a good price.
 
Eh, take that repoted issue with a grain of salt. They say:

We had an SSD 320 600GB 2.5" SATA drive in for evaluation from our Intel rep. I was able to kill it in two or three hours by power cycling it.
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Unless you're power cycling your SSD for 2-3 hours, I wouldn't worry about it. The Intel 320 comes with a built in supercap which should prevent any data loss related to power loss.
 
WonkersTHEWatilla said:
I want to take a moment and say how awesome this GAF thread is. What took me weeks of web surfing 4-ish years ago when I embarked on my first rig-building journey this time took 1 week of lurking and reading this thread.

Now, I think I've finalized my list of components. If you guys could comment on it, I'd very much appreciate it. Not all the parts on it will be bought from Newegg. Also, I want to include an SSD but I don't think I can fit it into my budget -- I'm already over by $50 as it is.

Reusing an optical drive, monitor and keyboard/mouse and Win7Pro. I'm not sure if I should transfer over my 1000w Antec PSU to this new rig.

(The Lian Li was a last minute sub thanks to feist :) )
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Personally I would sub the 580 for a 570 and save ~$200 right there - you're paying much more for a minimal performance increase. You can SLI down the road with another 570 when they drop in price or the rig starts to feel old. With the savings from the graphics card, you can grab an SSD or splurge on whatever else you may want.
 
·feist· said:
Very hard to top it, in stock form, at $70. Having a better GPU is always good, as is the ability to properly cool, and house it comfortably.
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Hm...true. The sale is good until the 15th, right? So I have a couple of days to decide, while I finalize some other component decisions.

And then again, I have been kind of wanting to keep my current build in some usable. Actually been thinking about setting it up as my own personal web server (I work in the industry) so it would be nice to have my current case in addition to this new one.
 
Tom Penny said:
Aren't SSD ridiculous overpriced for the performance increase?
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Overpriced, yes, but I wouldn't quantify it as "ridiculous". The drives are gradually approaching the price range I'd consider reasonable. Having an SSD even just as an OS drive really does make a world of difference.
 
Tom Penny said:
Aren't SSD ridiculous overpriced for the performance increase?
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Oh god no, at least compared to a few years ago. Especially on the laptop front, no moving parts is a major boon there.
 
Oh fuck , i took out the heatsink to check the paste , then i put it back , now when i start the pc i only get lights and fans, after one secondit turns off and then on again , and so on, i took it to the store and guy told me i may havr fríed the cpu , could that br the case?
 
dgenx said:
Oh fuck , i took out the heatsink to check the paste , then i put it back , now when i start the pc i only get lights and fans, after one secondit turns off and then on again , and so on, i took it to the store and guy told me i may havr fríed the cpu , could that br the case?
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Not unless, you remove the heatsink while the PC was still on. Even then, without a cooler, the CPU or MB should have turn off the PC once the CPU hit it's thermal limit. More likely you damage the MB whether physically or causing a static charge.
 
I currently have a 1GB Geforce 250 GTS GPU, and I want to upgrade it. I've been looking at the 560 Ti, but was wondering how good of an upgrade it would be from my current GPU to the 560 ti? Should i invest more money and move up to the 570s or higher? I wanted to stay around the $250 range though. Any insight would be great, Thanks.
 
CarbonatedFalcon said:
Personally I would sub the 580 for a 570 and save ~$200 right there - you're paying much more for a minimal performance increase. You can SLI down the road with another 570 when they drop in price or the rig starts to feel old. With the savings from the graphics card, you can grab an SSD or splurge on whatever else you may want.
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I was pretty dead set on the 580. I looked at the Crysis 2 DX11 benchmark chart and that pretty much sold it for me. ~7fps average difference between a 570 and 580 makes a difference in my mind. $470 (current going rates) is a lot to pay, and 2x570 in SLi is certainly a valuable proposition at $170-ish more than 1 580, but I've always preferred immediate single-card powerhouses. One day, if 580 prices drop I might invest in another (though unlikely).

But I will seriously mull over what you've said for a day or so. Wanna pull the trigger on this list by mid-week.
 
zaidr said:
Hi GAF. I'm looking to make an upgrade, and I have an offer for a used set of:

CPU - i5 2500K
MOBO - Asrock P67 Fatality http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product...82E16813157240
Memory - GSkill Ripjaws X 2 x 2Gb DDR 2133Mhz

Considering it's used, what is a fair price I should be offering? Also Whats the maximum I should pay for something like this?
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Hey guys, any insight? I don't mean to rush anyone, but they guy's kind of waiting for my offer. Please GAF, I could really use your help right about now... :[
 
Hey all. This is a question my good buddy Tashi has for you:

I just found out I'm able to download Windows 7 Professional upgrade with my student email. Since it's an upgrade, how do I go about installing it on the PC I'm about to build? Would I just burn it on to a DVD and run it that way on my new PC? Do I put it on a flash drive? It's an upgrade so I'm wondering how I do a clean install.
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dgenx said:
Oh fuck , i took out the heatsink to check the paste , then i put it back , now when i start the pc i only get lights and fans, after one secondit turns off and then on again , and so on, i took it to the store and guy told me i may havr fríed the cpu , could that br the case?
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If you ever take off the heatsink/cooler, you pretty much have to clean off the paste off the CPU and heatsink and reapply some new paste.
 
So what's the disk image software of choice these days? I always like to capture a disk image of a clean Windows install w/ updates & drivers to make recovery super simple if I ever wanted to go back to a clean install.

When I last regularly built systems 6+ years ago, Norton Ghost was fine.
 
tenz0r said:
I currently have a 1GB Geforce 250 GTS GPU, and I want to upgrade it. I've been looking at the 560 Ti, but was wondering how good of an upgrade it would be from my current GPU to the 560 ti? Should i invest more money and move up to the 570s or higher? I wanted to stay around the $250 range though. Any insight would be great, Thanks.
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IIRC, you're looking at roughly twice the performance in a number of titles, and healthy double-digit fps gains in others. You can save by getting one of the better GTX 560 Tis, with good stock cooling, and clocking it to GTX 570-like levels of performance.


XiaNaphryz said:
So what's the disk image software of choice these days? I always like to capture a disk image of a clean Windows install w/ updates & drivers to make recovery super simple if I ever wanted to go back to a clean install.

When I last regularly built systems 6+ years ago, Norton Ghost was fine.
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I use Acronis, though I know some swear by Ghost. There's also Easeus for images and backup. Haven't used it myself, but I've been meaning to try it out at some point. From what I'm told it's solid, and free (???). Just haven't looked into it yet.
 
Trasher said:
Hey all. This is a question my good buddy Tashi has for you:
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You're going to want to download the ISO file and burn it to a disk. CDBurnerXP is a free program that can burn ISO files. The ISO file is basically like a mirror image (bit for bit) of what would be on an actual Windows7 (or any software) install disk. So you just need to make sure you're burning the disk as an ISO file. http://cdburnerxp.se/ Then when you run the disk to install windows7 it will ask you for your key. If anyone has a better explanation or wants to correct me, feel free :)

EDIT: Oops. Just realized you were talking about the 'upgrade' version :-O Sorry.
 
so i got this factory version of a 6970 from my friend, and when i put it in my computer no image appears. after a while i hear the windows startup sound, so i know the computer is booting fine, but no image. its being powered by a 6 pin connecter, and a thing that converts two of those old-school style 4 pin ones into the 8 pin one. did i explain that right? does it even matter?

im 99.9% sure it is put into the motherboard correctly and the dvi cord is connected directly. i've tried uninstalling my current cards drivers before turning it off and no dice. help!
 
mcrae said:
so i got this factory version of a 6970 from my friend, and when i put it in my computer no image appears. after a while i hear the windows startup sound, so i know the computer is booting fine, but no image. its being powered by a 6 pin connecter, and a thing that converts two of those old-school style 4 pin ones into the 8 pin one. did i explain that right? does it even matter?

im 99.9% sure it is put into the motherboard correctly and the dvi cord is connected directly. i've tried uninstalling my current cards drivers before turning it off and no dice. help!
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Check and jiggle cable. Try other port.
Try turning off motherboard onboard video if you have one in the BIOS settings (PCI/PCG or something)
 
Hazaro said:
Check and jiggle cable. Try other port.
Try turning off motherboard onboard video if you have one in the BIOS settings (PCI/PCG or something)
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i looked for that (GA-P55-UD3L) and couldn't find it. i found something about boot initialization priority, PCI, PEG, or PEG2. i couldn't see what the definition of PEG2 was, but i changed it from
PCI to PEG and nothing happened. :/
 
mcrae said:
i looked for that (GA-P55-UD3L) and couldn't find it. i found something about boot initialization priority, PCI, PEG, or PEG2. i couldn't see what the definition of PEG2 was, but i changed it from
PCI to PEG and nothing happened. :/
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It should be PEG or PEG2 (PCI Express Graphics)

Double check you have video hooked up right. More often than not it is dumb oversight. Do you have another monitor to test? Reseating the video card and unplugging/replugging the connectors can help too.

Make sure the Molex connectors are snug. Did you say molex to 8 pin? Usually they only have wires for a 6 pin, but it should at least output video...
 
Hazaro said:
It should be PEG or PEG2 (PCI Express Graphics)

Double check you have video hooked up right. More often than not it is dumb oversight. Do you have another monitor to test? Reseating the video card and unplugging/replugging the connectors can help too.

Make sure the Molex connectors are snug. Did you say molex to 8 pin? Usually they only have wires for a 6 pin, but it should at least output video...
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dont know what to double check, im posting these posts from the same computer/monitors, just switching in and out the graphics cards to test. i do have two monitors and it wont work on either.

double checked and they are snug yes, its looks like this:
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Mcrae, this sounds like a power issue. Do you have a motherboard speaker installed? If so, when you boot up do you get a strange amount of beeps? If not, check your motherboard LEDs for the sequence in which in boots. Does the VGA light stay on for a long time?
 
daviyoung said:
Mcrae, this sounds like a power issue. Do you have a motherboard speaker installed? If so, when you boot up do you get a strange amount of beeps? If not, check your motherboard LEDs for the sequence in which in boots. Does the VGA light stay on for a long time?
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no abnormal beeping, and a couple weeks ago when i fried a different graphics card i heard the correct beep for a mis-seated card, so i know the speaker is there.

i think there is a weird lighting combination going on, but i can't be sure till i restart, which has to wait till morning. i checked and the consensus is you only need a 550w psu for this card, could my 700w be faulty or something?
 
I doubt it's a faulty power supply, since everything else boots up. Maybe a dodgy lead, or a dodgy socket?

Stupid question, but are you sure there's enough power getting to the GPU? I know on a GTX-570 you need 2 6-pin, or 1 8-pin + 1 6-pin running from the PSU.

On a separate note, have you tried all the possible outputs (VGA, DVI, HDMI)?
 
daviyoung said:
I doubt it's a faulty power supply, since everything else boots up. Maybe a dodgy lead, or a dodgy socket?

Stupid question, but are you sure there's enough power getting to the GPU? I know on a GTX-570 you need 2 6-pin connectors running from the PSU.
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With a 6970, you need a 8-pin and 6-pin connectors.
 
I'm thinking of maybe buying a new power supply to support my build which I just bought:

Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3 SATA II 7200RPM 32M x2
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal Cooler
Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 4GB (2x XMS3 2GB) PC-12800
Asus P8P67 PRO V3 L1155 P67
Crucial RealSSD C400 128G SATAIII
GTX 570
Fractal Design R3 case

I've got an old Antec TP3 650w power supply from my computer computer that I was going to put into this build, but I'm now thinking of getting a new power supply all together because my old one only supports 4 sata connections and I kind of want 5. Plus I want enough power to support more case fans etc. I have bought the parts listed above already, but haven't had the time to put any of it together yet.

I was recommended to get a Thermaltake Tough Power XT 875W. Seen here. It's expensive but its modular and supports up to 8 sata cables and everything I could want.

Do you think it's worth it or am I going overboard?
 
mandiller said:
I'm thinking of maybe buying a new power supply to support my build which I just bought:

Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3 SATA II 7200RPM 32M x2
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal Cooler
Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 4GB (2x XMS3 2GB) PC-12800
Asus P8P67 PRO V3 L1155 P67
Crucial RealSSD C400 128G SATAIII
GTX 570
Fractal Design R3 case

I've got an old Antec TP3 650w power supply from my computer computer that I was going to put into this build, but I'm now thinking of getting a new power supply all together because my old one only supports 4 sata connections and I kind of want 5. Plus I want enough power to support more case fans etc. I have bought the parts listed above already, but haven't had the time to put any of it together yet.

I was recommended to get a Thermaltake Tough Power XT 875W. Seen here. It's expensive but its modular and supports up to 8 sata cables and everything I could want.

Do you think it's worth it or am I going overboard?
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If you can afford it, I would buy the most powerful PSU. Who knows what you may need in the future, SLI?. Four years ago, I bought my Cooler Master Real 1000W PSU. Back then, I didn't need 500W let alone 1000W, but I figure I will be keeping the PSU for many builds, and today, I am glad I did with a overclock 2600K & CF 6970s. I see myself using it for my next build too.
 
Firmware 2.09 fixed all issues I was having with my Vertex 3.

But yeah, SSDs are definitely still in their infancy. They're not for anyone except those who need the speed and are willing to deal with the issues.
 
daviyoung said:
What issues were you having with yours?
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Random BSODs. Anywhere from thirty minutes after boot to several days after boot. Never happened when there was activity, like when playing games or compiling code, only when seemingly idle (browsing the web, irc, etc.)
 
mandiller said:
I'm thinking of maybe buying a new power supply to support my build which I just bought:

Samsung 1TB Spinpoint F3 SATA II 7200RPM 32M x2
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Plus Universal Cooler
Intel Core i5 2500K Processor LGA1155 3.3GHz CPU
Corsair CMX4GX3M2A1600C9 4GB (2x XMS3 2GB) PC-12800
Asus P8P67 PRO V3 L1155 P67
Crucial RealSSD C400 128G SATAIII
GTX 570
Fractal Design R3 case

I've got an old Antec TP3 650w power supply from my computer computer that I was going to put into this build, but I'm now thinking of getting a new power supply all together because my old one only supports 4 sata connections and I kind of want 5. Plus I want enough power to support more case fans etc. I have bought the parts listed above already, but haven't had the time to put any of it together yet.

I was recommended to get a Thermaltake Tough Power XT 875W. Seen here. It's expensive but its modular and supports up to 8 sata cables and everything I could want.

Do you think it's worth it or am I going overboard?
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Unless you are planning to SLI in the future, I wouldn't do it. What you're trying to accomplish (more SATA plugs) can easily be done with a $5 splitter (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9&cm_re=Molex_splitter-_-12-196-459-_-Product) I couldn't stand to browse that aussie site anymore, but you should be able to find a similar product). You've also got plenty of power for fans (fans don't take much juice).

You'd be throwing money away, unless you've got a clear plan for SLI in the future.
 
daviyoung said:
Woah, ok. Glad you got those fixed. I'm not looking forward to that :/
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Did you order a Vertex 3? The stock firmware should work for most, but if you have problems you'll probably need to flash through until you find something that does it for you. Every drive seems to be different, judging by the OCZ forums.
 
Izayoi said:
Did you order a Vertex 3? The stock firmware should work for most, but if you have problems you'll probably need to flash through until you find something that does it for you. Every drive seems to be different, judging by the OCZ forums.
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I have a Crucial, not an OCZ. Hopefully it won't have similar problems though, but I guess all SSDs are practically identical in components.
 
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