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[Deputy Moonman]

I was gonna ask about your power cables to your GPU as well, lol.
I tried to do a search on google and found this thread that may or may not be helpful. Scroll down to the response from JSC.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/298081-31-continuous-beep-start
A good bit on troubleshooting there.

 

[IonicSnake]

I'll quote myself for the new page in case you missed it.

Yes, that's correct.

Edit: You have the 4 pin (might be 8pin depending on motherborad) from the PSU connected to the motherboard? Usually up in the corner next to the CPU.

 

[TrounceX]

I'll quote myself for the new page in case you missed it.

Yup I got that one in too. I can see how someone could easily miss it though.

I'm gonna check out this troubleshooting thing on Tomshardware.

I hope my CPU isn't broken or something terrible like that...

 

[froliq]

Make sure your RAM is inserterd correctly. You might have not pushed them in all the way.

 

[Hazaro]

CPU's are bad one in a million. Maybe less.
Other parts, not such good odds.

More than anything it is something very simple you missed when you were building, or a loose / unplugged cable.

I suggest you trace all your cords from your power supply and make sure they are going into what they should securely.

If it still beeps at you take it out of the case and hook up the bare minimum and see if it turns on. (no hdd, no dvd, 1 stick of ram)

 

[TrounceX]

Make sure your RAM is inserterd correctly. You might have not pushed them in all the way.

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS IT!

THANK YOU

 

[Hazaro]

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS IT!

THANK YOU

Those new RAM slots can be a bit tricky.
*Also your motherboard manual should have said something. They usually have a trouble shooting page near the back for the beeps and lights.

 

[TrounceX]

Those new RAM slots can be a bit tricky.
*Also your motherboard manual should have said something. They usually have a trouble shooting page near the back for the beeps and lights.

Yeah i really had to press down hard to make them go in all the way.

Well, hopefully this is the last of my problems. Spent all day building this thing without even a trace of prior knowledge so it looks like it really can be done! Thanks everyone for your help I honestly appreciate it.

So yeah master race here I come!

Intel i5 2500k
Asus p8p67 pro
Nvidia GTX 580
120gb OCZ Vertex 3

Spent all year saving up for this thing so hopefully it was worth it.

 

[Tenck]

Yeah i really had to press down hard to make them go in all the way.

Well, hopefully this is the last of my problems. Spent all day building this thing without even a trace of prior knowledge so it looks like it really can be done! Thanks everyone for your help I honestly appreciate it.

So yeah master race here I come!

Intel i5 2500k
Asus p8p67 pro
Nvidia GTX 580
120gb OCZ Vertex 3

Spent all year saving up for this thing so hopefully it was worth it.

All year? How much was it?

 

[Deputy Moonman]

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS IT!

THANK YOU

Awesome. Glad it was nothing major

 

[TrounceX]

All year? How much was it?

I'm a college student so money is not exactly easy to come by

and it was around $1400.

 

[Tenck]

I'm a college student so money is not exactly easy to come by

and it was around $1400.

Oh I understand. Trying to build my PC before college starts. I know once I start school I'll be crying when my money leaves me quickly

Haven't even looked up the Ssd yet, and I can already tell it must have been a nice chunck of cash. I hope I can get mine soon!

 

[IonicSnake]

HOLY SHIT THAT WAS IT!

THANK YOU

Congrats on your new build.

Most of the time when building a computer it's stuff like this, it doesn't stop your heart from racing though.

 

[n0n44m]

Can someone please help me I'm building a PC right now and there are these twisted up multicolor cords that say:

Power sw
Reset sw
Pow LED +
Pow LED -
HDD LED

I don't even know where to begin to put these. ???

ASUS P8p67 PRO
Corsair TX 750

the p8p67 pro comes with a little white block on which you can connect these pins, then you slide that block over the pins on the bottom right of the board

so if you haven't used that yet, I would advise using it in the future as it makes (dis)connecting those cables so much easier

and in the future be very careful to push stuff like ram and video cards all the way into the slots, as it can short out when for example only one end of the slot is in and the other end is not...

 

[Dina]

Overclocked my 2500k to 4.5ghz with 1.280vcore, but a Prime95 test shows temps around 75C. That is a bit too hot for my liking. Would a 4.3ghz clock with 1.24vcore be sufficient?

edit: much better, floating around 65 with 1.240vcore

 

[Leonsito]

Is the P8P67-PRO still the mobo to go for OC ? Or should I go for the Z68 chip?

 

[xero273]

This is what I have:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B003XU73KY/?tag=neogaf0e-20

The 2ms response, contrast ratio, and the fact it's LED is what did it for me. This is 23 inches though.

Here is basically the 24 inch version:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B004EFYG70/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Thanks for the recommendations. I did some further looking around on newegg and my budget for the monitor increased so I am interested in getting a 3d monitor. I narrowed down to two monitors

Asus VG236HE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236104

Acer GD235HZ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222

Anyone have experience with these two and which one would you recommend? Also, I did read about the Asus having green tint issues and Acer having ghosting issues

Thanks.

 

[TheExodu5]

Thanks for the recommendations. I did some further looking around on newegg and my budget for the monitor increased so I am interested in getting a 3d monitor. I narrowed down to two monitors

Asus VG236HE

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236104

Acer GD235HZ

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009222

Anyone have experience with these two and which one would you recommend? Also, I did read about the Asus having green tint issues and Acer having ghosting issues

Thanks.

I've compared the non 3D versions of similar monitors (Asus VW246, Acer G235), and I'd give the nod to Asus. The Asus had better build quality, and more importantly, was decently calibrated out of the box. The Acer, on the other hand, requires a brightness setting of 0 to be anywhere near close to properly calibrated. Otherwise, they were very similar.

 

[mclaren777]

Why does my 2600K never go above 3.4GHz even when under load? I thought Turbo Boost was supposed to allow for 3.8GHz under certain conditions.

 

[IonicSnake]

Why does my 2600K never go above 3.4GHz even when under load? I thought Turbo Boost was supposed to allow for 3.8GHz under certain conditions.

What are you using to check the speed?

 

[Ryan_]

okey quick question:

MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Hawk for 229 euro

or

PNY GeForce GTX 570 for 260 euro

also, if I want 8 gigs of RAM, should I go 4 x 2gb or 2 x 4 Gb.

Cheers!

 

[Tallshortman]

okey quick question:

MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Hawk for 229 euro

or

PNY GeForce GTX 570 for 260 euro

also, if I want 8 gigs of RAM, should I go 4 x 2gb or 2 x 4 Gb.

Cheers!

Get the 570, better value for the money than the 560 Ti.

 

[Van Owen]

Overclocked my 2500k to 4.5ghz with 1.280vcore, but a Prime95 test shows temps around 75C. That is a bit too hot for my liking. Would a 4.3ghz clock with 1.24vcore be sufficient?

edit: much better, floating around 65 with 1.240vcore

What cooler are you using!

 

[BY2K]

So what about those Bulldozers CPUs?

Are they really coming in September? Because I want to wait until they are released to buy my new parts.

 

[MadraptorMan]

Just finished building my new PC!

i5 2500k w/ giant ass Xigmatek Gaia cooler
8GB DDR3 RAM
Galaxy GeForce GTX 570
64GB SSD for OS
500GB HDD
630W modular PSU

Right now it looks like the mobo temp hovers around 36 degrees...is that acceptable?

 

[Ryan_]

Just finished building my new PC!

i5 2500k w/ giant ass Xigmatek Gaia cooler
8GB DDR3 RAM
Galaxy GeForce GTX 570
64GB SSD for OS
500GB HDD
630W modular PSU

Right now it looks like the mobo temp hovers around 36 degrees...is that acceptable?

what's your experience with the Gaia cooler? Nice? I'm thinking of buying one myself next week for my new build (also 2500k)

 

[MadraptorMan]

what's your experience with the Gaia cooler? Nice? I'm thinking of buying one myself next week for my new build (also 2500k)

It was a bit of a pain to put it all together but it seems like a pretty elegant design in the end. I haven't tried anything system intensive yet but I'm optimistic it'll do its job well. Just make sure it'll fit inside your case...it's tall.

 

[RumblingRosco]

okey quick question:

MSI GeForce GTX 560 Ti Hawk for 229 euro

or

PNY GeForce GTX 570 for 260 euro

also, if I want 8 gigs of RAM, should I go 4 x 2gb or 2 x 4 Gb.

Cheers!

Most likely you'll want 2x4GB for dual-channel mode benefits. I prefer the 560 Ti you linked to the 570, as I think the cooling solution used by MSI is absolutely excellent, whereas the PNY solution is simply average. The 570 isn't a bad investment as far as the cost and graphical/framerate improvement you'll see, but when I built my PC I chose the 560 Ti. Just depends what you're looking for... perhaps, look at reviews showing how well each card does in games you're most interested in playing.

 

[Ryan_]

Most likely you'll want 2x4GB for dual-channel mode benefits. I prefer the 560 Ti you linked to the 570, as I think the cooling solution used by MSI is absolutely excellent, whereas the PNY solution is simply average. The 570 isn't a bad investment as far as the cost and graphical/framerate improvement you'll see, but when I built my PC I chose the 560 Ti. Just depends what you're looking for... perhaps, look at reviews showing how well each card does in games you're most interested in playing.

I was just wondering if the price difference of 30-40 euro makes it worth it to buy a GTX 570 instead of GTX 650 Ti Hawk, which, as I have read, is also kind of OC'ed out of the box and has a pretty strong performance. However, I'll prolly not overclock or update for the next 2 years so in th elong run, would the GTX 570 be better or won't it make a huge difference.

I saw a Point Of View GTX 570 for 270. Better cooling then PNY or still GTX 560 Ti HAwk?

Thanks for the help btw, choosing a good GPU is always a pain in the ass.

 

[Horsemama1956]

I was just wondering if the price difference of 30-40 euro makes it worth it to buy a GTX 570 instead of GTX 650 Ti Hawk, which, as I have read, is also kind of OC'ed out of the box and has a pretty strong performance. However, I'll prolly not overclock or update for the next 2 years so in th elong run, would the GTX 570 be better or won't it make a huge difference.

I saw a Point Of View GTX 570 for 270. Better cooling then PNY or still GTX 560 Ti HAwk?

Thanks for the help btw, choosing a good GPU is always a pain in the ass.

Every card has this problem with the next card being marginally better for a marginal price. The best thing you can do is read some reviews and see if the increase in performance is good enough to justify an additional cost, even if it's only 30-40 bucks.

The 560ti can be overclocked to hit stock 570 performance levels(with less VRAM so resolution dependent), but the 570 can be overclocked as well as long as it has the VRM count/quality to handle the additional power load and decent cooling.

 

[Dina]

What cooler are you using!

be quiet Dark Rock Advanced. Why, too high?

 

[mkenyon]

Who's ready? I am. 8150 day 1 perch.

 

[RumblingRosco]

I was just wondering if the price difference of 30-40 euro makes it worth it to buy a GTX 570 instead of GTX 650 Ti Hawk, which, as I have read, is also kind of OC'ed out of the box and has a pretty strong performance. However, I'll prolly not overclock or update for the next 2 years so in th elong run, would the GTX 570 be better or won't it make a huge difference.

I saw a Point Of View GTX 570 for 270. Better cooling then PNY or still GTX 560 Ti HAwk?

Thanks for the help btw, choosing a good GPU is always a pain in the ass.

Well, the 570 has a bit more VRAM. If you're playing at 1080p or less, I don't think you'll see very many games where the extra VRAM matters. If you're playing at greater than 1080p then I think you should absolutely get the 570... every bit of VRAM will help.

Use this website: http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/msi_560gtx_hawk/

There, you can see where the 560 Ti Hawk compares to the stock Nvidia 570 for a variety of games... it's usually within ~5 FPS. Also, I noticed on Newegg that the PNY 570 has a pretty mixed set of user reviews, while the 560 Ti Hawk seems more highly reviewed. On the other hand, the PNY comes with a lifetime warranty instead of the 2 to 3 year warranty on the MSI.

 

[hypernima]

Who's ready? I am. 8150 day 1 perch.

If it cost same or around a i7 2600k I might just get this instead.

 

[TheExodu5]

I still have doubts as to Bulldozer being a good gaming CPU buy, but I'm thinking that 8150 is going to offer some insane computational power for the price. The problem will be finding applications that can make use of all those 8 cores.

 

[Hyuga]

Hey guys!
What's the better SSD at the moment?
OCZ Agility 3 Series 120 GB
or
Crucial M4 SSD 128GB

 

[hypernima]

I still have doubts as to Bulldozer being a good gaming CPU buy, but I'm thinking that 8150 is going to offer some insane computational power for the price. The problem will be finding applications that can make use of all those 8 cores.

I figure premiere pro and 3dsmax could, right?

Well if you're into rendering, programming and encoding, you're all set.

I guess I'll be a very happy man if I buy this then

 

[Horsemama1956]

Well if you're into rendering, programming and encoding, you're all set.

 

[Ryan_]

Hey guys!
What's the better SSD at the moment?
OCZ Agility 3 Series 120 GB
or
Crucial M4 SSD 128GB

you should also consider the Corsair Nova Series 2, heard good things about those!

 

[mkenyon]

I still have doubts as to Bulldozer being a good gaming CPU buy, but I'm thinking that 8150 is going to offer some insane computational power for the price. The problem will be finding applications that can make use of all those 8 cores.

You might be unaware as to how the architecture on these bad boys works, but it's almost the opposite of Hyperthreading. Each two cores share 2MB of L2 Cache, and they convince the OS they are more or less a single core. The chip handles where the work goes from there. So its almost more like a a really beefy quad than it is an octo.

 

[Tallshortman]

User reviews have to be taken in the context of what is actually written and the fact that they're not being reviewed by people who own both cards in an apples to apples comparison. The best way to look at reviews is to actually read what is being written rather than the "stars" being given. Also, read reviews by websites who will do benchmarks and such.

If PNY isn't a good brand you can find another for basically the same price since manufacturers rarely price much differently from each other for stock cards. Also, overclocking a 570 will get you greater performance gain than overclocking an already factory overclocked card.

 

[Horsemama1956]

You might be unaware as to how the architecture on these bad boys works, but it's almost the opposite of Hyperthreading. Each two cores share 2MB of L2 Cache, and they convince the OS they are more or less a single core. The chip handles where the work goes from there. So its almost more like a a really beefy quad than it is an octo.

Is that right?

The OS sees a 4 core(in a traditional sense), 4 module Bulldozer as an 8 core chip because 1 core, or "module" is basically 2 physical cores sharing resources. If a game uses 2 cores it would use 1 module in a 2 module Quad Core.

 

[ChoklitReign]

Which do you reckon will be the best performance for the money: FX-8100 + AM3+ mobo, or an i3 2100 + H67 mobo? Bulldozer could kick ass in BF3.

 

[Tallshortman]

Which do you reckon will be the best performance for the money: FX-8100 + AM3+ mobo, or an i3 2100 + H67 mobo? Bulldozer could kick ass in BF3.

Little point in getting a dual core for gaming at this point imo when devs are promising better quad core optimization and with some major games already proven to run much better on quads. No absolutely proven benchmarks have been released on the BD CPUs though so there's really no telling until we get info on pricing and performance.

 

[mkenyon]

Which do you reckon will be the best performance for the money: FX-8100 + AM3+ mobo, or an i3 2100 + H67 mobo? Bulldozer could kick ass in BF3.

No one knows the answer to any of these questions, except for maybe AMD engineers. But even they don't know how their systems will run BF3!

 

[ChoklitReign]

Little point in getting a dual core for gaming at this point imo when devs are promising better quad core optimization and with some major games already proven to run much better on quads. No absolutely proven benchmarks have been released on the BD CPUs though so there's really no telling until we get info on pricing and performance.

I'm not budging from the 2100 until Hazaro says there's a better CPU/Mobo combo for $200.

 

[mkenyon]

I'm not budging from the 2100 until Hazaro says there's a better CPU/Mobo combo for $200.

Oh. 8100 will not be that. 8100 will be around the price of a 2500 or 2600.

 

[Tallshortman]

I'm not budging from the 2100 until Hazaro says there's a better CPU/Mobo combo for $200.

Then just get the 2100. You said from a value perspective which means bang for your buck, not I'm not going over $200 perspective. FX-8100 is aimed at the mainstream/gamer populace who would buy the i5 2500k right now. By the time bulldozer comes out both intel and AMD will lower prices for existing CPUs due to the demand BD will likely generate. I wouldn't recommend upgrading until then unless you don't want to wait 2-3 months.

 

[Macattk15]

Damn last posts on the pages ...

 

[Dennis]

I still have doubts as to Bulldozer being a good gaming CPU buy, but I'm thinking that 8150 is going to offer some insane computational power for the price. The problem will be finding applications that can make use of all those 8 cores.

After Effects

Premiere Pro

Maya

3ds MAX

Cinema 4d

RealFlow

and they list continues