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[mkenyon]

I didn't say mine die all the time. I'm saying in general. Any grade of electronics can die, that's just the way it is. The best reviewed PSUs have warranties for a reason. They have just as much a chance of dieing as a cheap one. Even still, if someone is going to "future proof" it's not with mid range stuff like a 2500k. Someone with a 990x would have a much brighter future since it handles 12 threads. So in 15 years, they will get better performance then a 2500k in BF8.

The problem is in 2 years 2500k performance is going to be $100 dollars. So buying a $100 dollar chip that will most likely get you through those 2 years would be enough.
another possible problem is in 4 years a 2500k may not be powerful enough, even though it can handle 4 threads.

Games now always use 2 threads, but that doesn't mean the 5 year old Athlon 64 x2's are any good. The Core 2 Duos are on their way out as well. Games are made with current hardware in mind for the most part.

I never suggested people can't buy good shit. But future proofing in the tech world is sort of a joke. It just doesn't really happen because better stuff always comes out and nothing ever gets fully utilized, just passed over eventually.

Adding the PSU into the argument isn't really valid, I was just saying that buying one for a system you might get in 2 years might not even happen if it dies. A PSU isn't like CPU or GPU. They don't progress in the same way.

Chances are if someone wants to future proof performance they do so because they don't want to spend the money again in the near future. They could instead just buy something cheaper now, and something cheaper again in the future and probably come out ahead. I think people should buy the best PSU they can afford, but not for a future system. Worry about that later.

Bolded the nonsense.

 

[Seventh]

Is an Intel 320 still a good choice when buying a SSD for the first time? I found a 120GB for $170 and I'm considering getting it, but I'm a little hesitant due to reports of that 8MB glitch.

 

[Hazaro]

Is an Intel 320 still a good choice when buying a SSD for the first time? I found a 120GB for $170 and I'm considering getting it, but I'm a little hesitant due to reports of that 8MB glitch.

I can't tell you how prevalent the glitch is, but at this time the only other drive I'd recommend in the 120GB range is the M4.

That might have problems that are unknown at the moment, but as of now it seems to be a drive with the least problems.

 

[Broadbandito]

Yo haz, did you mess with the powercolor over the weekend?

 

[Kadey]

The Asrock extreme 4 will let me upgrade to an Ivy bridge?

 

[Seventh]

I can't tell you how prevalent the glitch is, but at this time the only other drive I'd recommend in the 120GB range is the M4.

That might have problems that are unknown at the moment, but as of now it seems to be a drive with the least problems.

Yeah, the M4 was one of the drives I've been considering getting. The only problem is that my motherboard doesn't support SATA 6, so I'm not sure if it's worth getting a drive that I won't be able to get the most speed out of.

I have seen some SATA 6 PCI-E cards for sale, though. Anyone know if those are worth getting?

 

[Tallshortman]

I didn't say mine die all the time. I'm saying in general. Any grade of electronics can die, that's just the way it is. The best reviewed PSUs have warranties for a reason. They have just as much a chance of dieing as a cheap one. Even still, if someone is going to "future proof" it's not with mid range stuff like a 2500k. Someone with a 990x would have a much brighter future since it handles 12 threads. So in 15 years, they will get better performance then a 2500k in BF8.

The problem is in 2 years 2500k performance is going to be $100 dollars. So buying a $100 dollar chip that will most likely get you through those 2 years would be enough.
another possible problem is in 4 years a 2500k may not be powerful enough, even though it can handle 4 threads.

Games now always use 2 threads, but that doesn't mean the 5 year old Athlon 64 x2's are any good. The Core 2 Duos are on their way out as well. Games are made with current hardware in mind for the most part.

I never suggested people can't buy good shit. But future proofing in the tech world is sort of a joke. It just doesn't really happen because better stuff always comes out and nothing ever gets fully utilized, just passed over eventually.

Adding the PSU into the argument isn't really valid, I was just saying that buying one for a system you might get in 2 years might not even happen if it dies. A PSU isn't like CPU or GPU. They don't progress in the same way.

Chances are if someone wants to future proof performance, they do so because they don't want to spend the money again in the near future. They could instead just buy something cheaper now, and something cheaper again in the future and probably come out ahead. I think people should buy the best PSU they can afford, but not for a future system. Worry about that later.

I'm sorry but this is simply not truet. If you actually believe good quality PSUs have the same chance of failure as a cheap knock off you are either being intentionally obtuse or have never read PSU reviews and how they test the products.

Also you will notice when I said future proofing I said the time scales are different. I explicitly said the time scale relies on the tech and that future proofing for 2 years might sound dumb in other things but it is entirely possible and reasonable for some PC parts. For example, buying an AM3+ mobo right now for your already in use AMD processor because you want DDR3 and PCIe 2.0 x 16 right now but plan on upgrading your CPU later is future proofing because that means you have the cheap option of upgrading to what you know will be AM3+ BD processors later.

Lastly, PSU technology does definitely advance. Years ago, a 500W PSU was considered overkill and their reliability and efficiency are considerably better than they were before.

 

[Cptkrush]

Going to look at cases at TigerDirect tomorrow, any last minute suggestions?

 

[mkenyon]

Going to look at cases at TigerDirect tomorrow, any last minute suggestions?

What are you looking for in specific? $ you're willing to spend?

 

[Cptkrush]

What are you looking for in specific? $ you're willing to spend?

Just gonna be browsing what they have, the case I've been eyeing is the HAF 922, but I'd be willing to drop 150 or so, if there's something better.

 

[BannedEpisode]

Whats the deal with my GTX 460 1GB? Installed it and could hardly notice an upgrade over my 4850 512mb.

Turned out I had to go into the nVidia control panel and manually turn on a lot of the cards features. Afterward it worked fine. Whats the deal with that?

 

[mkenyon]

Just gonna be browsing what they have, the case I've been eyeing is the HAF 922, but I'd be willing to drop 150 or so, if there's something better.

It all depends on the form factor, and how important aesthetics are.

mATX in that price range, the Lian Li V354 is my favorite case. Corsair 600T and 650D are right around that price, and both are outstanding cases. Can't go wrong with the HAF series either, I myself have a 922 and love it. The Storm Scout and Storm Sniper are both good cases, the prior being a perfect box if you go to LAN events often. If you like space agey stuff, the NZXT Phantom is a good choice for a full tower. Silverstone Raven is a great case as well, with a non-standard design. Fractal R3 for silence and cable management is always a good option.

Basically, stick to CM, Silverstone, Lian Li, or Fractal, and you won't be disappointed.

 

[Cptkrush]

It all depends on the form factor, and how important aesthetics are.

mATX in that price range, the Lian Li V354 is my favorite case. Corsair 600T and 650D are right around that price, and both are outstanding cases. Can't go wrong with the HAF series either, I myself have a 922 and love it. The Storm Scout and Storm Sniper are both good cases, the prior being a perfect box if you go to LAN events often. If you like space agey stuff, the NZXT Phantom is a good choice for a full tower. Silverstone Raven is a great case as well, with a non-standard design. Fractal R3 for silence and cable management is always a good option.

Basically, stick to CM, Silverstone, Lian Li, or Fractal, and you won't be disappointed.

Cool, I'll be sure to check these out if they have them tomorrow.

 

[Hawk269]

Whats the deal with my GTX 460 1GB? Installed it and could hardly notice an upgrade over my 4850 512mb.

Turned out I had to go into the nVidia control panel and manually turn on a lot of the cards features. Afterward it worked fine. Whats the deal with that?

Ummm never heard of having to do that. What kind of "features" did you have to turn on?

 

[BannedEpisode]

Ummm never heard of having to do that. What kind of "features" did you have to turn on?

It was so strange. I had to switch most of these options from off to on.

After I did the card started working fine and I noticed the improvements I was expecting.

 

[Hawk269]

It was so strange. I had to switch most of these options from off to on.

After I did the card started working fine and I noticed the improvements I was expecting.

Definately change power management to "prefer maximum power". Leaving it on adaptive at times will cause the card not to get full power because your are limiting the power to the card by using adaptive. As far as those other settings, they are just how you want to customize your card, your should of not had to turn features on/off etc.

I only changed the power option and for individual applications I would turn things on/off depending on how the game/app runs. Some games have some features included, others the Driver does better, for example AF, I usually turn that to 16x on most games, but i do it at the .exe level for each game.

 

[BannedEpisode]

Thanks for the reply I will change the power setting.

Its so weird that it was all preset like it was.

 

[Salsa]

It was so strange. I had to switch most of these options from off to on.

After I did the card started working fine and I noticed the improvements I was expecting.

Now i wonder if i should do the same thing with my 560.. just went to check and some of those are just turned Off

 

[LordCanti]

I've never had a problem with adaptive (with my GTX 580). For what it's worth, your card should go into P8 (2D) mode while not in game, whether it is set on adaptive or max. In game, I've never seen adaptive accidentally switch my card to low power mode, and bork my game.

 

[·feist·]

$30 PSUs have comparable levels of longevity and reliability to better built, high end models? Hmm...

Going to look at cases at TigerDirect tomorrow, any last minute suggestions?

Did you check out the OP recommendations? The ~$80-100 options are all very good. The HAF 922 is also in there, under the 912 listing. Since you mentioned possibly considering the 932 before, it seems you don't have any issues with size, seeing as it's a full tower. The ~$80-100 mid towers are all fairly spacious (especially the Arc/922/400R), but if size is not a big concern, and you think you may need/want more room in the future, the 932 Advanced is difficult to beat at $130 after rebate.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119160

Almost no other option at that price offers the room, build quality, stock cooling performance, and flexible build options that you get from a 932 Advanced. Some cases are prettier, some cases shade it a bit on specific features, but you'll be hard pressed to find many similarly priced ones that offer all that it does, while excelling at air and water cooling.

 

[Maaseru]

I want to upgrade my rig, but first I'd like to know how much I can sell my old parts for.

I'm thinking of selling my old gtx 260, a core 2 quad kentsfield 2.66ghz cpu, evga nforce mobo, cou heatsink and 4gb of ram ddr3.

How much would you think is fair to ask for these used parts. $300 or less? I wanna sell it all in a package or is selling them individually less of a hassle?

Also now that I'm upgrading what is a good combo to look for. I already have my gtx 560ti. I'm looking at some motherboard comobos on ebay. i7 + asus rampage mobo $650 ok?

 

[BY2K]

Should I wait for the new Bulldozer CPUs to come out before buying new parts? I really want a 6 Core CPU and I'm wondering if I should just buy a AM3+ Motherboard and wait for the Bulldozer 6 Core.

 

[·feist·]

Intel Acknowledges SSD 320 Bug, Working on Firmware Upgrade
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent..._ssd_320_bug_working_on_firmware_upgrade.html

Intel on Sunday acknowledged that a bug could cause its SSD 320 solid-state drives to fail, and said a firmware upgrade is on its way to address the problem.

In some instances, a power loss may cause Intel's SSD 320 drives to crash and lose data. On rebooting the system, the system BIOS could report the SSD as having only 8MB of storage capacity. Intel two weeks ago said the error was possibly a bug, and that the issue was being investigated.

Update on "Bad Context 13x Error"
http://communities.intel.com/thread/23610?tstart=0

Intel has been investigating the ‘Bad Context 13x Error’ as seen on select Intel® SSD 320 Series drives. This was previously noted in the Intel community post as “SSD Power Loss”. To summarize the error: In certain circumstances, after an unexpected power loss, a small percentage of SSDs may experience this error on the next attempt to boot the system. In this situation, the system’s BIOS reports an SSD as an 8MB capacity drive.

Intel has reproduced ‘Bad Context 13x Error’ utilizing strenuous testing methods. This ‘Bad Context 13x Error’ can be addressed via a firmware update and Intel is in the process of validating the firmware update. A future update will define the schedule to deliver the firmware fix.

The Intel SSD 320 Series continues to be shipped and is available for purchase. If you experience this error with your Intel SSD, please contact your Intel representative or Intel customer support (via web: www.intel.com or phone: www.intel.com/p/en_US/support/contact/phone) .

For those with Intel SSD 320 series SSDs who are concerned but currently unaffected, Intel advises the following actions:

As with any storage device, backup your data regularly
When shutting down your system, follow your system’s standard shutdown process
Minimize unplugging the SSD while your system is powered

Intel takes these issues seriously. Please watch for further updates on this site.

Rgds,

Alan

Intel’s NVM Solutions Group

 

[Xplatformer]

Are people still building PhysX into their games? Right now that appears to be the only real advantage to getting a 460 over a 6850.

 

[Prophet Steve]

Are people still building PhysX into their games? Right now that appears to be the only real advantage to getting a 460 over a 6850.

I believe so, Alice Madness Returns used it and was out in June. But it's not very common.

 

[Salsa]

Are people still building PhysX into their games? Right now that appears to be the only real advantage to getting a 460 over a 6850.

it never went as widespread as Nvidia thought, but there's some games that take advantage of it and its nice when they do. Alice Madness Returns might just be the game that uses Physx in the best way yet.

 

[Curufinwe]

Intel Acknowledges SSD 320 Bug, Working on Firmware Upgrade
http://www.pcworld.com/businesscent..._ssd_320_bug_working_on_firmware_upgrade.html




Update on "Bad Context 13x Error"
http://communities.intel.com/thread/23610?tstart=0

I just read about that error on the weekend when I was researching pre-built PCs from Digital Storm. I'm probably not going to get a new PC till Windows 8 comes out, but it's fun too look.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadode.asp?id=566406

 

[LordCanti]

I guess it's a good thing that I didn't splurge on an SSD. If Intel can rectify the situation before October, I'm still pretty tempted.

 

[Maaseru]

I want to upgrade my rig, but first I'd like to know how much I can sell my old parts for.

I'm thinking of selling my old gtx 260, a core 2 quad kentsfield 2.66ghz cpu, evga nforce mobo, cou heatsink and 4gb of ram ddr3.

How much would you think is fair to ask for these used parts. $300 or less? I wanna sell it all in a package or is selling them individually less of a hassle?

Also now that I'm upgrading what is a good combo to look for. I already have my gtx 560ti. I'm looking at some motherboard comobos on ebay. i7 + asus rampage mobo $650 ok?

 

[BY2K]

Your Current Specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0 GHz / 2.0 GB (DDR) / A8N-SLI Premium / Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5
Budget: 500$ + Canada (For now, I only want to change the CPU, the Motherboard and the RAM).
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (GC/Wii), Video Editing, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p Playback).
Monitor Resolution: Currently playing at 1360x768 and will later do 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: BATTLEFIELD 3!
Are reusing any parts?: Power Supply (Antec TruePower 550W) and the 5770.
When will you build?: In about 2 months.
Will you be overclocking?: No.

I'm currently thinking of buying:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 6 Core Processor 3.3GHZ Socket AM3 Retail Box
MB: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 DDR3 AMD 890GX ATX 2PCI-E16 PCI-E1 PCI-E4 2PCI VGA DVI Motherboard
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Things is, should I buy this, or should I wait for the Bulldozers and buy THIS:

CPU: AMD FX-6100 6 Core Zambezi.
MB: Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AMD 990X AM3+ ATX DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

 

[AwesomeSauce]

Your Current Specs: AMD Athlon 64 X2 3800+ 2.0 GHz / 2.0 GB (DDR) / A8N-SLI Premium / Sapphire Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5
Budget: 500$ + Canada (For now, I only want to change the CPU, the Motherboard and the RAM).
Main Use: Gaming, Emulation (GC/Wii), Video Editing, General Usage (Word, Web, 1080p Playback).
Monitor Resolution: Currently playing at 1360x768 and will later do 1920x1080
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: BATTLEFIELD 3!
Are reusing any parts?: Power Supply (Antec TruePower 550W) and the 5770.
When will you build?: In about 2 months.
Will you be overclocking?: No.

I'm currently thinking of buying:

CPU: AMD Phenom II X6 1100T Black Edition Thuban 6 Core Processor 3.3GHZ Socket AM3 Retail Box
MB: ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 DDR3 AMD 890GX ATX 2PCI-E16 PCI-E1 PCI-E4 2PCI VGA DVI Motherboard
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

Things is, should I buy this, or should I wait for the Bulldozers and buy THIS:

CPU: AMD FX-6100 6 Core Zambezi.
MB: Gigabyte GA-990XA-UD3 AMD 990X AM3+ ATX DDR3 3PCI-E16 2PCI-E1 2PCI SLI SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
RAM: Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto 8GB 2X4GB PC3-10666 DDR3-1333 9-9-9-24 Dual Channel Memory Kit

If you are building in 2 months then just go with a bulldozer setup or and i5 setup.

 

[ChoklitReign]

Random questions

1. Does Nvidia Control Panel override Nvidia Inspector or vice versa?
2. Does an OEM SATA DVD burner miss any cables or do those usually come with the motherboard?

 

[mkenyon]

I want to upgrade my rig, but first I'd like to know how much I can sell my old parts for.

I'm thinking of selling my old gtx 260, a core 2 quad kentsfield 2.66ghz cpu, evga nforce mobo, cou heatsink and 4gb of ram ddr3.

How much would you think is fair to ask for these used parts. $300 or less? I wanna sell it all in a package or is selling them individually less of a hassle?

Also now that I'm upgrading what is a good combo to look for. I already have my gtx 560ti. I'm looking at some motherboard comobos on ebay. i7 + asus rampage mobo $650 ok?

Rampage is socket 1366, which I assume the i7 is as well. You'll want a sandybridge setup, as 1366 is mostly dead and outclassed by even the 2500K. You don't need one of the RoG (Crosshair, Rampage, Maximus) boards unless you're a serious OC'er. Look at the OP for what you want.

 

[Maaseru]

Your Current Specs: Intel Core 2 Quad Kentsfield 2.66/ 4gb ddr3 1066/Evga nforce socket 775/ nvidia gtx 560ti(just bought it, had a gtx 260)
Budget: 600-700(I already have the video card, just want a decent i7-mobo combo and 8gb of ram)(already have a case, 550w psu)
Main Use: Gaming, video editing, thinking of going into maya and other "big" software used on animation, editing and programming
Monitor Resolution: have nvidia 3d vison 22" samsung, 1650x1180 i think
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: BATTLEFIELD 3, skyrim, witcher 2(already can play on current, but want better fr), all upcoming.
Are reusing any parts?: case, psu,hdd,video card, etc
When will you build?: when i get bewteen 600-700 bucks, or before B3, Skyrim
Will you be overclocking?: not at the beginning


So should I wait for new parts or somthing? I want to sell the old ones, just before or just after, I get the new parts, How much could I ask for my old cpu,memory,mobo and video card? Sell them in a package or individually?

Rampage is socket 1366, which I assume the i7 is as well. You'll want a sandybridge setup, as 1366 is mostly dead and outclassed by even the 2500K. You don't need one of the RoG (Crosshair, Rampage, Maximus) boards unless you're a serious OC'er. Look at the OP for what you want.

I just mentioned those because they were on ebay in i7+mobo comobos which is what I;m really looking for. Ebay worked great for getting my card a bit less expensive so I would want that.

 

[RS4-]

Hmm, been stable for a few hours @ 4.8ghz with 1.368 vcore.

Temps are mid 70s. Will try to go for 4.9 and 5 if this keeps up overnight. If I can get those stable I'll dial it back down to 4.3-4 and 1.280 vc.

I don't think I needed 1.368, but I ended up picking that after it froze at 1.34 (or something); didn't feel like going in increments.

 

[Hazaro]

Yo haz, did you mess with the powercolor over the weekend?

I didn't. I've been fairly busy and I don't think I'll have much extra time to fiddle with my 6950's this week either (I've very meticulous when working on my own system).

The Asrock extreme 4 will let me upgrade to an Ivy bridge?

If Intel follows what they said, it should be on the 1155 socket (and therefore probably compatible with current 115 boards). Of course they can change like AMD did, so who knows.

When will you build?: In about 2 months.

Drop by in two months. Bulldozer will be out by then.

Random questions

1. Does Nvidia Control Panel override Nvidia Inspector or vice versa?
2. Does an OEM SATA DVD burner miss any cables or do those usually come with the motherboard?

Inspector is just a more friendly way to mess with profiles iirc.
OEM = Drive only + bubble wrap.
No box, no cables, no software.

Motherboard comes with some SATA cables usually. Some very low end boards come with just 1.

Your Current Specs: Intel Core 2 Quad Kentsfield 2.66/ 4gb ddr3 1066/Evga nforce socket 775/ nvidia gtx 560ti(just bought it, had a gtx 260)
Budget: 600-700(I already have the video card, just want a decent i7-mobo combo and 8gb of ram)(already have a case, 550w psu)
Main Use: Gaming, video editing, thinking of going into maya and other "big" software used on animation, editing and programming
Monitor Resolution: have nvidia 3d vison 22" samsung, 1650x1180 i think
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: BATTLEFIELD 3, skyrim, witcher 2(already can play on current, but want better fr), all upcoming.
Are reusing any parts?: case, psu,hdd,video card, etc
When will you build?: when i get bewteen 600-700 bucks, or before B3, Skyrim
Will you be overclocking?: not at the beginning


So should I wait for new parts or somthing? I want to sell the old ones, just before or just after, I get the new parts, How much could I ask for my old cpu,memory,mobo and video card? Sell them in a package or individually?



I just mentioned those because they were on ebay in i7+mobo comobos which is what I;m really looking for. Ebay worked great for getting my card a bit less expensive so I would want that.

~<$300 package for old parts.

Parts: $1000 build minus what parts you have. Drop in a 2600K or wait for bulldozer next month and see what happens there. SSD if you can fit it in budget.

 

[Maaseru]

~<$300 package for old parts.

Parts: $1000 build minus what parts you have. Drop in a 2600K or wait for bulldozer next month and see what happens there. SSD if you can fit it in budget.

COuld you recomend this combo: http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8H61-M-Rev-3-0-Combo-/270733516111?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f08f99d4f

Price and component wise?

 

[·feist·]

COuld you recomend this combo: http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8H61-M-Rev-3-0-Combo-/270733516111?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f08f99d4f

Price and component wise?

Buy it now price is hilarious. Either way, no. H61 is very low end, and not a good match for something like a 2500K/2600K.

I just read about that error on the weekend when I was researching pre-built PCs from Digital Storm. I'm probably not going to get a new PC till Windows 8 comes out, but it's fun too look.

http://www.digitalstormonline.com/comploadode.asp?id=566406

That price is w/o a monitor? Yikes.

 

[Cptkrush]

COuld you recomend this combo: http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8H61-M-Rev-3-0-Combo-/270733516111?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f08f99d4f

Price and component wise?

2. Intel Core i5 Processor i7-2600K 3.30GHz 6MB LGA1155 CPU

Uhhh? Sounds fishy there.

from Digital Storm:

Build it Yourself?

There are many reasons to build your own rig, but with the ODE, saving money is no longer one of them. The ODE incorporates the best technology and performance without breaking the bank. The money you may save by building it yourself is eaten away by the time you spend: ordering the parts, putting it together, installing Windows and drivers, and overclocking it. The ODE is ready for you the day you purchase it, with no testing or assembly required, just take it out of the box and dominate the competition.

Lol... spend an extra grand to save 5 hours(max) of work.

 

[Maaseru]

Uhhh? Sounds fishy there.

Yeah it does its an i5-i7 jaja would than mean its a i2 or i12? :lol

 

[LordCanti]

Uhhh? Sounds fishy there.

from Digital Storm:


Lol... spend an extra grand to save 5 hours(max) of work.

But...but think of all the fancy LED's they'll install! That has to be worth $1000, right?

 

[black_vegeta]

Random questions

1. Does Nvidia Control Panel override Nvidia Inspector or vice versa?
2. Does an OEM SATA DVD burner miss any cables or do those usually come with the motherboard?

OEM comes with no cables.

My motherboard came with 2 SATA cables.

 

[Maaseru]

What about either of these, would you recommend?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8P67-PRO-Combo-Set-/270768958201?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b166af9


or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-GIGABYTE-GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3-combo-/270770108430?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b27f80e


I really want to go the ebay route, because I always see shipping is always better and most of the time I find stuff a bit less expensive. It's either this or tigerdirect.

 

[scogoth]

But...but think of all the fancy LED's they'll install! That has to be worth $1000, right?

Psht. CCFL FTW

 

[mkenyon]

What about either of these, would you recommend?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8P67-PRO-Combo-Set-/270768958201?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b166af9


or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-GIGABYTE-GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3-combo-/270770108430?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b27f80e


I really want to go the ebay route, because I always see shipping is always better and most of the time I find stuff a bit less expensive. It's either this or tigerdirect.

Any particular reason you're looking at i7s? Also, rather than coming back to the thread, just match the prices on the two items you see with the prices on newegg for the same stuff. If it's cheaper, then you have your answer. The OP has a ton of great info on 1155 mobos.

 

[TommyT]

The PSU could just as easily die though. Future proofing for games that use 4 threads on a consistent basis is atleast a year or 2 off.


nVidia has a driver sweeper like action now when you uninstall the drivers from the control panel, but doesn't hurt to try driver sweeper. It even comes into play if you install the drivers over top. It should ask for a reboot before the new drivers install.

I would try 3dmark 11 and see what happens. Also you can try the Heaven benchmark and set it to 8xAA, Extreme tessellation and your native resolution.

http://unigine.com/products/heaven/

This should crash if it is a problem not limited to BC2. Run those and see what happens.

Uninstalled the old drivers, swept them, installed 270.61:

Ran 3D Mark 11 and got this:

Workload Single init returned error message: Full-screen mode is unavailable. Close all background programs.

Doing some more research on it now, trying EVGA Precision to boost fan speed, also going to try the "Heaven" test.

 

[Maaseru]

Any particular reason you're looking at i7s? Also, rather than coming back to the thread, just match the prices on the two items you see with the prices on newegg for the same stuff. If it's cheaper, then you have your answer. The OP has a ton of great info on 1155 mobos.

No particular reason, just though it was the next step after my core 2 quad; also they recommended me a 2600k. I'm more of an Intel guy or have always been. Also I just want a recommendation for a decent mobo. They CPUs in the ebay auctions are ok it's just I don't know about the motherboard.

 

[Velion]

What about either of these, would you recommend?:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-Cpu-Asus-P8P67-PRO-Combo-Set-/270768958201?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b166af9


or

http://cgi.ebay.com/Intel-Core-i7-2600K-CPU-GIGABYTE-GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3-combo-/270770108430?pt=Motherboards&hash=item3f0b27f80e


I really want to go the ebay route, because I always see shipping is always better and most of the time I find stuff a bit less expensive. It's either this or tigerdirect.

Just did a price compare of those.....

First one is $494.98 + $10ish shipping using UPS vs $565 + $25 shipping using USPS.
Second is $479.98 with free shipping using UPS vs $548 + $25 shipping using USPS.

Gigabyte Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128498
Asus motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131771
i7 2600k http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070

 

[Definity]

Going to pull the trigger on this tomorrow...

i5 2500k
MSI N570GTX Twin Frozr II
CORSAIR Vengeance 8GB
ASRock P67 EXTREME4
CORSAIR 600W PS
COOLER MASTER Storm Enforcer CASE

I don't plan on using SLI on this build anytime so I should hopefully be good on that power supply. Would like to throw a RAID 0 SSD in there but just have not made my mind up on it. I went back and forth on if I should get the i7 or i5 but finally decided on the i5.

 

[momolicious]

So with all these scary stories about SSDs, does anyone know about the G.Skill SSDs? How are they compared to others in terms of Reliabilty and speed?