"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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Horsemama1956
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Yeah, like you could get the i3 system in the OP, but with 1080p and the games you listed you might be a little disappointed. A 460/6850 will handle 95% of the games out there maxed out at that res, but the ones you chose you most certainly won't. Although a 560ti or 6950 can't either. If you had a 1600x900 or 1680x1050 display it would be quite different.catabarez said:
With it being an entirely new system, that means Windows 7, Hard drive, DVD drive, which cuts in.
What are your expectations?
Tallshortman
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somesayyea said:
Everything is fine except I would personally get a slightly larger PSU for safety's sake (the 6950 needs 500w so 530w is cutting it a bit close). I would go for a 600W but make sure you stick with a solid brand like the one you chose.
somesayyea
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Tallshortman said:
Ah, okay. I was wondering about the PSU and whether it had enough juice. Will look for a 600W PSU. Thanks for the advice.
somesayyea
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mkenyon said:
Wait, so the 520W PSU is sufficient?
Horsemama1956
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BF3 is unknown right now. The Witcher 2 has had some patches to improve performance, so High might be doable at 30 fps on a 460/6850, but not Ultra. Add about 10-15% overall performance at stock for each step up on the GPU ladder, though sometimes less(6850 -> 6870).catabarez said:
I would checkout the official Witcher 2 thread and see what people are getting, as I haven't pick the game up yet.
Any other games you're interested in? Checking out youtube with specific processors and GPUs can get you gameplay videos which will show you how games will look and run(roughly).
I had a 1080p monitor, but sold it for a CRT which I have since shelved in favour of a cheap Acer 1600x900 LCD for the summer(heat) I just didn't want to spend a lot just to play games anymore. With my system:
i3 540@4.4, 4GB of 1600Mhz DDR3, GTX 460 overclocked to 900/1800/2000 I don't have problems with much of anything. BC2 runs at 70-100 at that res with everything on high and 8xCSAA, HBAO off. Starcraft 2 Gets me 100+ with everything on High or Ultra and no AA(1on1 ladder).
I bought Crysis 2, but don't like it so haven't tried out DX11, but that would struggle on anything but higher end GPUs. Without DX11, Crysis 2 ran fine on a mix of Advanced and Extreme. Console ports for the most part will be 60fps with Intel.
With 1080p you'll have to either sacrifice settings or performance in some games when on a budget. Overall though, for $700(which is what I paid for my system a while ago). I don't have any complaints.
hows this build? and i didnt include a gpu since i already have a gtx 460 1gb
besides these parts i still need to get windows 7 and a keyboard
Amazon
Antec BP550:64.99
Microcenter Combo(313.90) and theres $15 rebate on the mobo
Intel Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor
GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?sku_list=200121+525667
Newegg total:225.72(with tax+shipping)
also off amazon i may add a $20 logitech desktop mic, $30 360 wired controller and $97 HD555s
besides these parts i still need to get windows 7 and a keyboard
Amazon
Antec BP550:64.99
Microcenter Combo(313.90) and theres $15 rebate on the mobo
Intel Core i5 2500K LGA 1155 Boxed Processor
GA-Z68X-UD3H-B3 LGA 1155 Z68 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.microcenter.com/search/search_results.phtml?sku_list=200121+525667
Newegg total:225.72(with tax+shipping)
also off amazon i may add a $20 logitech desktop mic, $30 360 wired controller and $97 HD555s
Red Blaster
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Just had my computer randomly restart during a session of GTA4. Chalking it up to software error for now but I'm a bit paranoid, if it does this across multiple games would it likely mean the CPU's overheating?
Flying_Phoenix
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I just got two new SSD. One I ordered online new (OCZ Agility 3) and one that was a RMA replacement (OCZ Vertex 2).
When I boot up to Biox, my Asus P8687 detects the Agility 3, but it doesn't detect the Vertex 2. I've tried disabling the Marvell controller but it still doesn't detect. Anybody know how to fix this?
When I boot up to Biox, my Asus P8687 detects the Agility 3, but it doesn't detect the Vertex 2. I've tried disabling the Marvell controller but it still doesn't detect. Anybody know how to fix this?
Tallshortman
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somesayyea said:
The 6950 takes ~200w under full load. That leaves ~320w for the rest of your system. The i5 2500k is 120w under heavy load. It will definitely work, however it leaves little wiggle room for upgrades and like I said, I prefer slightly overdoing the PSU for future upgrades and peace of mind knowing there's little chance of too much stress on the PSU.
Run HWMonitor or Realtemp while playing. Is your proc OC'd? If so, might mean an unstable OC as I know GTA4 is really proc hungry.Red Blaster said:
If you don't want to mess with Crossfire or SLI (if you're not an experienced tweaker, you don't), then yes. Otherwise its the 590 or 6990.Bebpo said:
Make sure the SATA controller it's plugged into is set to AHCI. Double check the cables into the drive (data/power).Flying_Phoenix said:
somesayyea
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Tallshortman said:
Okay, thanks for the clarification.
somesayyea
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Okay, thanks guys. So, what I'm hearing is that the 520W PSU will work fine, but if I want some more wiggle room to, for example, upgrade my GPU or CPU in the future I might want to consider going with a higher wattage CPU.
Red Blaster
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mkenyon said:
No OC as it's an i7 2600. I screwed around for about 20 minutes in GTA4 with HWMonitor and my temps topped out to around 64 degrees, seems okay. OTOH, gave Crysis 2 DX11 a spin for about 45 minutes and topped out in the low-mid 70s. Cause for concern? Stock intel heatsink here.
Flying_Phoenix
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mkenyon said:
Nothing. Nothing has changed after I've done that.
Have you tried booting into windows to see if it's there under disk management? Do you only have a total of 2 drives for your system? If you have more, are they seen in BIOS?Flying_Phoenix said:
Also, change which SATA port you are plugging it into. Switch it with the other one. See if anything happens.
Flying_Phoenix
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mkenyon said:
Windows isn't installed on either hard-drives, but when trying to install Windows it only detects the Agility.
I've gated what SATA port its plugged into.
chaosblade
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I'm not sure there is one, but maybe somebody will prove me wrong. It's usually just described as holes in the backplate, or the description/features will mention that the case "offers great cable management." That's not always accurate though, since I'm pretty sure that's in the description of the Antec 300 which doesn't have that feature.Epix said:
You could probably just look for cases you like and ask on here about them if you have any questions about that, or get some suggestions here for cases with good cable management options and pick whichever you like best. I can't really suggest much, cases aren't my strong point. The CM 690II Advanced and HAF cases are nice in their price points. If you're looking for something more expensive than that the feature in question is all but guaranteed to be there regardless.
Flying_Phoenix
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Wow! Thanks OCZ! I sent you my broken drive and you give me....ANOTHER BROKEN DRIVE!
Just went through the RMA process again. Hope they give me a refund.
What SSD should I get instead of OCZ's defective shit?
Just went through the RMA process again. Hope they give me a refund.
What SSD should I get instead of OCZ's defective shit?
LabouredSubterfuge
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Case: Fractal Design Define R3
PSU: Coolermaster GX750W
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333)
GPU: MSI GTX 580 Twin FrozR II/OC
Hard Drive 1: 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s, SandForce 2281
Hard Drive 2: 2TB Seagate ST2000DL003 Barracuda Green, SATA 6Gb/s, 5900rpm, 64MB Cache, 12ms, NCQ
DVD Drive: Sony AD-7263S-0B
KB/M: Microsoft Business Hardware Pack - Black Wired Keyboard with Black Wired Optical Mouse
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
It all arrives on Friday. I'm like a 5 year old on Christmas Eve. EXCITE!
PSU: Coolermaster GX750W
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P67A-UD4-B3
CPU: Intel Core i5 2500K
CPU Cooler: Coolermaster Hyper 212
RAM: 8GB (2x4GB) Corsair DDR3 XMS3, PC3-10600 (1333)
GPU: MSI GTX 580 Twin FrozR II/OC
Hard Drive 1: 120GB OCZ Agility 3 SSD, 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s, SandForce 2281
Hard Drive 2: 2TB Seagate ST2000DL003 Barracuda Green, SATA 6Gb/s, 5900rpm, 64MB Cache, 12ms, NCQ
DVD Drive: Sony AD-7263S-0B
KB/M: Microsoft Business Hardware Pack - Black Wired Keyboard with Black Wired Optical Mouse
OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64 Bit
It all arrives on Friday. I'm like a 5 year old on Christmas Eve. EXCITE!
Flying_Phoenix
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mkenyon said:
The problem with Cosair is that their read and write speeds are much slower than OCZ's.
Flying_Phoenix
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You've got to compare apples:apples though. Corsair Force GT/Series 3 use the same controllers as the Vertex 3. When you do compare those properly, I'm not seeing much of a difference at all.
In addition, you need to take advertised speeds with a grain of salt. You should be looking at neutral review sites to get a solid idea of the real world speeds.
The $20-30 increase is where you get the QA and customer support of Corsair. Worth every penny IMO.
*edit* You could also look at Patriot's drives. Great customer support there, and the drives are right along with the Vertex 3's performance.
In addition, you need to take advertised speeds with a grain of salt. You should be looking at neutral review sites to get a solid idea of the real world speeds.
The $20-30 increase is where you get the QA and customer support of Corsair. Worth every penny IMO.
*edit* You could also look at Patriot's drives. Great customer support there, and the drives are right along with the Vertex 3's performance.
Great, recent article about recent SSDs on the market:
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sf-2200-sandforce-ssd,2987.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/sf-2200-sandforce-ssd,2987.html
DigiMish said:
What a worthless article as far as the benchmarks go. Could they not even bother to pick up an Intel 320 or 510 series 120GB drive for this or am I reading this wrong?
Edit: I am reading this wrong. It's a sandforce article. Still, if they're going to bother to do this why not include other controllers to compare it to. Especially since they're putting non-sandforce non-120gb drives in all the benchmarks
Flying_Phoenix
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Hey guys would you be able to help me get surround sound going on my PC?
I have this motherboard -
ASUS P7P55D-E LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA 6GB Motherboard
I have the TurtleBeach x41 7.1 surround sound headphones.
I don't know what other info you guys need, I am kind of ignorant to sound stuff! All I know is that I am not getting surround sound, only 2.1!
I have this motherboard -
ASUS P7P55D-E LGA1156 P55 DDR3 2PCI-E16 3PCI-E1 2PCI CrossFireX USB3.0 SATA 6GB Motherboard
I have the TurtleBeach x41 7.1 surround sound headphones.
I don't know what other info you guys need, I am kind of ignorant to sound stuff! All I know is that I am not getting surround sound, only 2.1!
Look in your sound options in the control panel, or in any software that may have come with your headphones.ZZMitch said:
Sequential has always been the less strong part of SSDs compared to mechanical drives. They excel more at random reads/writes. Also, yes, notice the speeds listed on newegg say "up to". They're also posted by the manufacturer, and who knows what kind of benchmarks they used.Flying_Phoenix said:
This is actually why I stick by my trusty RAID 0 for games.
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