Tallshortman
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AbsoluteZero said:
Planetside is by far the best FPS MMO thus far to come out tbh.
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Planetside is by far the best FPS MMO thus far to come out tbh.
AbsoluteZero
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I just thought maybe he'd be playing something that would push his hardware.
Flying_Phoenix
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If you want a serious answer than yes, it is very common for men who have big penises (I'm not talking practical joke big, but you know BIG) wish that they could loose an inch or two or few).DennisK4 said:
When it comes to penises, men are a lot like women, it doesn't matter what it looks like, its not "fine".
AbsoluteZero
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So while playing TF2 today I had the epiphany that maybe I could install Windows so I'd have access to about 10 times as many PC games.
But then I realized I'd have to shell out $100 for a copy of Windows.
And my backlog is ridiculous enough as it is.
Ugh.
But then I realized I'd have to shell out $100 for a copy of Windows.
And my backlog is ridiculous enough as it is.
Ugh.
I haven't had a gaming pc since the original Doom, so naturally I have a lot of questions, and am not comfortable building it so I'm going to pay a small business to do this, hopefully they don't mind my posting this. below are the specs he sent me. Anyway, this guy seems legit, but I do want a 580 though. I'm hoping to max Battlefield 3 at 720p3d/1080p2d).
> > Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k (Overclockable to 4.0ghz+)
> > HSF: Corsair A70 High Performance Cooler
> > Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
> > Memory: Corsair XMS 2x4096MB DDR3-1333
> > Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
> > Video: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked
> > Sound: onboard
> > NIC: Intel Gigabit onboard
> > Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600 Watt 80-Plus
> > Optical Drive 1: Lite-On 24x DVD Burner
> > Case: Lian-Li PC-A05FNB
> > Software: Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Microsoft Office 2010 Preinstalled
> > Total: $1,500.00
> >
> > The Core i5 2500k is honestly a little faster in gaming (when overclocked) than the 990X, and moving up to the Core i7 2600k only would add in Hyper-Threading which has not shown to have any benefit for games, as most of them can't even use 4 cores effectively, let alone 8. The GTX 560 Ti is the best value in video cards right now, however moving up to a GTX 570 would add around $150.00. I currently game with a GTX 570 and am very happy with it.
> >
> > I've spec'd you with the new Z68 chipset, which allows for several interesting options. You'll be able to use Intel QuickSync for video encoding which still having the GTX 560 Ti for gaming. You could also throw in a small SSD to cache files that are read from the 640GB drive. This would decrease level load times dramatically. Intel recommends something like a 40GB Corsair Force drive for this, which would add around $120. You could also opt for a system drive like the Corsair Force series 3 120GB drive for ultimate performance, which would add around $225.
> > Processor: Intel Core i5 2500k (Overclockable to 4.0ghz+)
> > HSF: Corsair A70 High Performance Cooler
> > Motherboard: Asus P8Z68-V Pro
> > Memory: Corsair XMS 2x4096MB DDR3-1333
> > Hard Drive: Western Digital Caviar Black 640GB
> > Video: EVGA GeForce GTX 560 Ti Superclocked
> > Sound: onboard
> > NIC: Intel Gigabit onboard
> > Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600 Watt 80-Plus
> > Optical Drive 1: Lite-On 24x DVD Burner
> > Case: Lian-Li PC-A05FNB
> > Software: Genuine Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit, Microsoft Office 2010 Preinstalled
> > Total: $1,500.00
> >
> > The Core i5 2500k is honestly a little faster in gaming (when overclocked) than the 990X, and moving up to the Core i7 2600k only would add in Hyper-Threading which has not shown to have any benefit for games, as most of them can't even use 4 cores effectively, let alone 8. The GTX 560 Ti is the best value in video cards right now, however moving up to a GTX 570 would add around $150.00. I currently game with a GTX 570 and am very happy with it.
> >
> > I've spec'd you with the new Z68 chipset, which allows for several interesting options. You'll be able to use Intel QuickSync for video encoding which still having the GTX 560 Ti for gaming. You could also throw in a small SSD to cache files that are read from the 640GB drive. This would decrease level load times dramatically. Intel recommends something like a 40GB Corsair Force drive for this, which would add around $120. You could also opt for a system drive like the Corsair Force series 3 120GB drive for ultimate performance, which would add around $225.
chaosblade
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Terrible value, you could build something similar yourself for a lot less. Paying $500 just to have somebody build it for you is a rip off. If you really don't want to build, check out NCIX or similar sites that will build the PC for a fee after you order the parts. Paying $50 to have somebody build it makes it a lot more sense than paying $500.Jtrizzy said:
Wolf Akela
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The SSDs that are having issues are the ones with SF-2000 series controllers. Best to avoid them for now.
Tallshortman
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Jtrizzy said:
TBH you're getting ripped off from a price-performance standpoint. A 2500k rig with a 560 Ti should not cost anywhere near $1500 if you build it yourself.
Unless you plan on doing some very, very CPU heavy apps such as video encoding I just don't see why you would need a $200+ mobo. Even then you can do those things on a ~$150 board and I doubt you'll notice any performance difference if your main function/heaviest running programs is gaming. It's a good board for sure but I don't think you'd need a high end mobo.
The build itself is fine, just not for the price he's charging. That exact build is $1071 give or take a few dollars. He's essentially charging you $500 for labor.
black_vegeta
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How much is this guy charging you to put together?
Just the labor alone?
Just the labor alone?
FrenchMovieTheme
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Jtrizzy said:
i just built almost that exact computer (power supply is 750w for me, hd is 2TB, 4GB ram, diablotek case) and i spent under $1000 for everything. i think my total came out to about $950, and that's not counting the $50 in rebates i'm getting back. it wasn't very hard to do. took me a few hours overall to build just because it was the first computer i ever built and didn't want to fuck things up so i was being very careful and thorough.
if you have a lot of extra money and not much extra time i guess paying $500+ to someone to build you a computer is worth it but otherwise i would say just take a few hours on the weekend and do it yourself
The_Inquisitor
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Jtrizzy said:
Plenty of people in this thread past year had no idea how to build a computer. All are posting on the forum from one now. How about giving it a shot? When I built my current rig last year, even my dad was shocked how easy it was to put together.
Jtrizzy said:
I think that's a bit too much. I just got something similar.
Coolermaster Haf 922 Mid Tower ATX Case Black
Coolermaster Megaflow 200MM Red LED Case Fan
PC Power & Cooling Silencer 910W SLI Certified ATX Power Supply 80 Plus Silver
Intel Core i5 2500K & ASUS P8Z68-V Pro
Corsair Cooling Air Series A70 DUAL-FAN CPU Cooler
G.SKILL Ripjaws X 8GB 2X4GB DDR3-1600 CL9-9-9-24 Memory
EVGA GeForce GTX 580 Superclocked Fermi 797MHZ 1536MB
Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB
Samsung DVDRW 22X SATA Black OEM
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Edition 64BIT DVD OEM
Total was around 1300$ without tax.
Psychotext
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Good god the A70 is a big cooler.
Htown said:
I would start with the $1000 build, but with a GTX 560ti instead of a GTX 570, and maybe a 650w PSU instead of the 750w in that build. Unless you are planning to SLI later, you could also pick a cheaper board than the one in the $1000 build.
Should be around $800 + case.
LabouredSubterfuge
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Hey guys, just OC'ing my i5 2500K.
I'm getting max temps of 68c at 4GHZ.
At what temps should I be looking to stop on?
I'm getting max temps of 68c at 4GHZ.
At what temps should I be looking to stop on?
iSurvivedTheOutage
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gibon3z said:
wow luckily you live by one of these....anyone know of a website that has similar ship prices?
chaosblade
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It's not necessary, but you still get the advantage of a cooler running CPU. And most aftermarket coolers will be a lot quieter than stock coolers.kage said:
The quietness is going to be the biggest perk for a non-ocer. At stock voltages and clock speeds, a 120mm fan is going to barely be audible (maybe even inaudible, if you buy a nice fan) on a tower cooler. The smaller fan on a stock heatsink is going to be louder at idle, louder at load, etc.
It's $30 for a Hyper 212 if it will fit. Maybe not worth the money though, if your GPU fan is just going to make a hellacious noise anyway, and ruin the quietness.
It's $30 for a Hyper 212 if it will fit. Maybe not worth the money though, if your GPU fan is just going to make a hellacious noise anyway, and ruin the quietness.
AbsoluteZero
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So what's new in the world of mice? The last time I bought a mouse a few years back I went with a wired sidewinder model, and it's okay, but the scroll wheel feels like it's failing on me so I'll likely need to replace it soon.
Looking for something Bluetooth-based, preferably.
Looking for something Bluetooth-based, preferably.
LabouredSubterfuge
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When OC'ing, is there a maximum Vcore amount that you should not exceed? (i5 2500k here)
Made a post several pages back regarding advice, but I think I might accelerate my PC purchase. The 1k build has a $350 video card, how "top of the line" is that? Trying to bump ~$1000 to around ~$800, starting with the video card. I have most of the other stuff picked out so far. I'm using that 1k build as a starting point and kind of picking and choosing what I want.
Edit - As of right now going with this build. ~$900, but splitting it between Amazon and Newegg, that might keep my actual price in the $800 range. Thoughts? Does it work? Just need suggestions on a case. Nothing too fancy.
CPU: i5-2500k ($219.99)
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G45 ($132.99)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB ($49.99)
Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 ($239.99)
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB ($59.99)
DVD: ASUS DRW 24x DVD Burner ($20.99)
Power: CORSAIR TX750 ($109.99)
Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 ($27.99 on Newegg, $26 something on Amazon)
Total (on NewEgg /w shipping and tax): $932.65
Another reason why New Jersey sucks.
Edit - As of right now going with this build. ~$900, but splitting it between Amazon and Newegg, that might keep my actual price in the $800 range. Thoughts? Does it work? Just need suggestions on a case. Nothing too fancy.
CPU: i5-2500k ($219.99)
Motherboard: MSI P67A-G45 ($132.99)
RAM: G.Skill Ripjaws 8GB ($49.99)
Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1561-AR GeForce GTX 560 ($239.99)
HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB ($59.99)
DVD: ASUS DRW 24x DVD Burner ($20.99)
Power: CORSAIR TX750 ($109.99)
Cooling: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 ($27.99 on Newegg, $26 something on Amazon)
Total (on NewEgg /w shipping and tax): $932.65
Another reason why New Jersey sucks.
LabouredSubterfuge
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knitoe said:
In the Bios I've now got it set as 1.36V for a 4.5GHZ OC. Testing it now in Prime95. CPU-Z shows the Vcore to be 1.284 while doing this though?
Max temp of 64C too.
Christ why are integrated GPU's so terrible?
All I want is a PC in the sub-700-800 range that's able to run BF3 on High in GLORIOUS graphics settings. There's some reasonable pre-builts
from HP/Dell/Gateway buy the GPU is so damn poor for the $550-650 price it's laughable. :/
I have no knowledge of building a PC from scratch and I don't want to pay $100+ extra for someone building it. *sigh*
All I want to do is play Battlefield 3 on GLORIOUS GRAPHIC setting. I don't give a shit about the audio work, is a reasonable price too much to ask for!?
All I want is a PC in the sub-700-800 range that's able to run BF3 on High in GLORIOUS graphics settings. There's some reasonable pre-builts
In before >implying there is reasonable pre-builts
I have no knowledge of building a PC from scratch and I don't want to pay $100+ extra for someone building it. *sigh*
All I want to do is play Battlefield 3 on GLORIOUS GRAPHIC setting. I don't give a shit about the audio work, is a reasonable price too much to ask for!?
TheSeks said:Christ why are integrated GPU's so terrible?
All I want is a PC in the sub-700-800 range that's able to run BF3 on High in GLORIOUS graphics settings. There's some reasonable pre-builtsfrom HP/Dell/Gateway buy the GPU is so damn poor for the $550-650 price it's laughable. :/In before >implying there is reasonable pre-builts
I have no knowledge of building a PC from scratch and I don't want to pay $100+ extra for someone building it. *sigh*
All I want to do is play Battlefield 3 on GLORIOUS GRAPHIC setting. I don't give a shit about the audio work, is a reasonable price too much to ask for!?
NCIX charges $50 to have a computer built and tested, last I checked. We've heard differing reports about how much Microcenter charges ($50-$100). Either way, paying that money is going to get you a much better computer than a comparable pre-built.
As for doing it yourself...we had a guy in here that couldn't figure out which way the case was supposed to be oriented and he ended up building his own computer (he knows who he is). You can do it.
Corky said:
You'd never want it that hot 24/7. The 75-79c max temp we often quote is for the temperature in a CPU stability testing app like SuperPI, where it stresses the CPU much more than a game would, and gets it hotter than you are ever likely to see it in real usage. Idle doesn't really mean a whole lot (lower idle, lower max...you'd hope) but I like to see my CPU stay under 70c in game. 35c-40c idle, even OC'd.
Nothing exciting really as far as I know, just that I found it cheaper than the usual $280-290 that it seems to have been going for in Canada for the last little while. Plus apparently there's a new MIR for it that just started today.rhfb said:
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820167042
$263.00 plus a $40 rebate. So $223 after rebate.
Tallshortman
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LabouredSubterfuge said:
I think 4.5 is the most common high overclock.
FrenchMovieTheme
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TheSeks said:Christ why are integrated GPU's so terrible?
All I want is a PC in the sub-700-800 range that's able to run BF3 on High in GLORIOUS graphics settings. There's some reasonable pre-builtsfrom HP/Dell/Gateway buy the GPU is so damn poor for the $550-650 price it's laughable. :/In before >implying there is reasonable pre-builts
I have no knowledge of building a PC from scratch and I don't want to pay $100+ extra for someone building it. *sigh*
All I want to do is play Battlefield 3 on GLORIOUS GRAPHIC setting. I don't give a shit about the audio work, is a reasonable price too much to ask for!?
bro you can build the computer yourself for cheaper. i know it seems like a hassle but trust me unless you are just horrible with easy directions then there is no way you can't do it
Tallshortman
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TheSeks said:Christ why are integrated GPU's so terrible?
All I want is a PC in the sub-700-800 range that's able to run BF3 on High in GLORIOUS graphics settings. There's some reasonable pre-builtsfrom HP/Dell/Gateway buy the GPU is so damn poor for the $550-650 price it's laughable. :/In before >implying there is reasonable pre-builts
I have no knowledge of building a PC from scratch and I don't want to pay $100+ extra for someone building it. *sigh*
All I want to do is play Battlefield 3 on GLORIOUS GRAPHIC setting. I don't give a shit about the audio work, is a reasonable price too much to ask for!?
That's just the nature of integrated GPUs, you can't have your cake and eat it too.
If you want high settings 1080p BF3 with 30+ fps you're going to have it build it yourself if you want to keep it at a reasonable price (~$800). That being said, building a PC is not as difficult as some people make it sound. It's quite easy.
So all of my new PC stuff is now in my possession aside from the case, cooler, and SSD. Do I enjoy my time off today by putting all the components into my existing case, just to take it all apart and set it up properly on Tuesday or Wednesday when everything has arrived? My impatience is getting the better of me... hard to have new PSU, mobo, CPU, RAM, and video card just sitting here unloved.
FrenchMovieTheme said:
The "damn cheap" build is ~$500-540 on NewEgg right now. HOWEVER it doesn't match the RAM that that this has for a similar price.
Of course, I'm PC parts-stupid so maybe I'm missing something there, but the Gateways biggest failure is the subpar GPU. Everything else is decent for the price and least hassle.
Frankly, I can't hear, so audio equipment isn't important to me and can be cut from the build. I just want the eye-popping graphics at a reasonable 720p/console-level performance at a reasonable/console-level price. But looking around that doesn't seem too possible to me unless I sit around and hope BF3 is optimized better than BC2. :/
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