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I have a Corsair H50 water cooling unit and I want to upgrade the fan on it to make it completely silent, does anyone have any suggestions.
The fan is 120mm in size and I want to get two to set up a push-pull configuration.

Also if anyone has any suggestions for cooling two gfx cards in SLi I love to hear them. There is a width of one PCi slot between the cards.
 
I opened up the ASUS overclocking smart doctor for my 580 and am wondering how I should do this?

It lets me adjust the Vcore, the Mhz, and the memory.

I upped the mhz from 782 -> 850mhz, should I increase it more?
The Vcore is 1.063v ...what is this and should I increase this?
Also the memory is at 4008...should I increase this?

Thanks,
 
Bebpo said:
I opened up the ASUS overclocking smart doctor for my 580 and am wondering how I should do this?

It lets me adjust the Vcore, the Mhz, and the memory.

I upped the mhz from 782 -> 850mhz, should I increase it more?
The Vcore is 1.063v ...what is this and should I increase this?
Also the memory is at 4008...should I increase this?

Thanks,

Increase one thing at a time. Increase the core clock speed a bit. Run a stress test and look at the temps. Keep the temps below 85C (with 90C being your ceiling). If it starts artifacting or locks up, then increase the voltage a bit. Once you hit a stable point, bring the clock speed back 5MHz to give you some overhead.

After you've got the core and voltage set, you can try increasing the memory clock speed a bit. Memory speed doesn't really have a huge performance impact though, so I like to leave it pretty low. Maybe just keep it as is.
 
Gav47 said:
I have a Corsair H50 water cooling unit and I want to upgrade the fan on it to make it completely silent, does anyone have any suggestions.
The fan is 120mm in size and I want to get two to set up a push-pull configuration.

Also if anyone has any suggestions for cooling two gfx cards in SLi I love to hear them. There is a width of one PCi slot between the cards.
Silent probably isn't an option for good fans on a rad like that. Best choice for fans (out of everything) is probably Gentle Typhoon AP-15s. Those might be a little noisier than what you're after though.

For silence, Scythe Kama Flow 2s are supposed to be silent at 1300RPM or less, but you will probably want a fan controller for that. Probably some other options, I've only looked at fans for performance and not silence.
 
Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
Another question:
What does Nvidias 3d vision kit contain?
I can save almost 100€ by getting the screen and glasses separately, so I'm wondering if there's something important in the 3d vision kit since it's such a big difference in price.
This is the screen I'm looking at.

I have that monitor. It's great. I use it for FPS on consoles and there is no noticeable input lag (as you'd expect with a 2ms response time). Same with PC games.

Nvidia kit contains what's in the first picture

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998052

I'd assume you need everything in that kit to make 3D work with a Nvidia card.

Bebpo said:
i7 @ 3.8ghz
6 gigs ram

Although it might be higher than 35fps. I've never let the benchmark finish because it's so freaking long. I just watch the first 4/5 stages and go with the fps from that.

Oh ok. I'd let it run through. It's only 7 mins long or so.


Kadey said:
Ram is so dirt cheap now. Should I add another 8GB? $50 for another pair is nothing. Does it affect say, watching streams and running them?

I made the jump from 8GB to 16GB because it was so cheap. You won't notice a difference unless you're doing heavy work (graphics, virtual machines etc), but for me the price was so low I went ahead and made the jump.


Bebpo said:
I opened up the ASUS overclocking smart doctor for my 580 and am wondering how I should do this?

It lets me adjust the Vcore, the Mhz, and the memory.

I upped the mhz from 782 -> 850mhz, should I increase it more?
The Vcore is 1.063v ...what is this and should I increase this?
Also the memory is at 4008...should I increase this?

Thanks,

Before you do anything uninstall SmartDoctor and get MSI Afterburner. SmartDoctor is very limited in what you can do. If it's stable at 850 and that voltage then you can leave it or go up. You need to run Heaven though and make sure you don't see any artifacts. If it gets through that fine, then you can up it. If you have issues you most likely need more voltage.


TheExodu5 said:
Increase one thing at a time. Increase the core clock speed a bit. Run a stress test and look at the temps. Keep the temps below 85C (with 90C being your ceiling). If it starts artifacting or locks up, then increase the voltage a bit. Once you hit a stable point, bring the clock speed back 5MHz to give you some overhead.

Would Heaven qualify as a stress test? That's what I've been using when OC'ing my card.
 
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/motherboards/2011/09/09/asrock-z68-extreme4-gen3-review/5

I had my heart set on this mobo due to price and features but it did not review well. Why is the SATA 3 performance on the Asus boards so much better than anything else?

Also, it would seem that Asus like to cheat a little on their mobo benchmarks according to Kyle.
http://hardocp.com/article/2011/08/16/asus_p8p67_pro_new_b3_revision_motherboard_review/6

What Mobo's have similar features to the Asrock Extreme4?

Looking for atleast:
2 USB3.0 on the rear panel.
2 USB3.0 for the front connector of a case
1 E-sata 6GB for the rear panel
Ivy Bridge compatibility (if we put aside the rumor)
 
Smokey said:
I have that monitor. It's great. I use it for FPS on consoles and there is no noticeable input lag (as you'd expect with a 2ms response time). Same with PC games.

Nvidia kit contains what's in the first picture

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998052

I'd assume you need everything in that kit to make 3D work with a Nvidia card.
Ok thanks. The glasses don't come with the usb emitter. I have to either get the pack with Duke Nukem Forever for 32€ more or the wired glasses for 32€ less. Tough choice :/

This is my build right now:

Samsung Bluray Combo SATA 12X
Lian Li PC-Z70 case
MSI P67A-GD80 B3, LGA1155, Intel P67, DDR3, ATX
Intel Core i5 2500K
Thermalright Silver Arrow
G-Skill 8GB Dual Kit Ripjaws X (2x4GB), DDR3 1600
Samsung 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM
Samsung 2TB SpinPoint EcoGreen F4, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 5400 x2
Crucial M4 128Gb
MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning, 1536MB GDDR5
Asus XONAR DG
Corsair 650W 650AX
I'm ordering on monday so hopefully I'll have a proper gaming PC within 2 weeks!
 
Smokey said:
I have that monitor. It's great. I use it for FPS on consoles and there is no noticeable input lag (as you'd expect with a 2ms response time). Same with PC games.

Nvidia kit contains what's in the first picture

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814998052

I'd assume you need everything in that kit to make 3D work with a Nvidia card.



Oh ok. I'd let it run through. It's only 7 mins long or so.




I made the jump from 8GB to 16GB because it was so cheap. You won't notice a difference unless you're doing heavy work (graphics, virtual machines etc), but for me the price was so low I went ahead and made the jump.




Before you do anything uninstall SmartDoctor and get MSI Afterburner. SmartDoctor is very limited in what you can do. If it's stable at 850 and that voltage then you can leave it or go up. You need to run Heaven though and make sure you don't see any artifacts. If it gets through that fine, then you can up it. If you have issues you most likely need more voltage.




Would Heaven qualify as a stress test? That's what I've been using when OC'ing my card.

Smokey and Exodus are both correct. For starters, dump the ASUS program and get Afterburner, it is much better. To Exodus point, increase the core first without a voltage tweak. Run Unigine for a bit and monitor temps. If you dont crash, dont get artifacts and temps are good then up the core again.

I have a 580 as well and I am at 900mhz with a 1.100 voltage. I had the voltage a llittle higher, but was able to go back down to 1.100. At 900mhz anything lower that 1.100 volts and I would crash. For a while, I was running it at 1.25 voltage at 900mhz, then the other day I decided to drop it down to see if I would be stable at 1.1 and I was. I think I was just lazy the first time I did it cause I was too excited to get to some games..lol.

I know alot of folks "on air" can go much higher than 900mhz, but for me, even running Unigine for 1-2 hours, I peak at 83c...so I know I have some room to go a bit higher, but I prefer not to push it beyond that temp, even though it is 100% normal to run at that temp. I also have EVGA's 580's.

Smokey, which has the new hotness MSI Lightning Extreme could easily hit 950-980 on the core and probably be at 75-80c or even lower at max load cause of the cooling system on that card. It really depends on the card you have and how it handles heat. The lighnings dispose of heat through the back but also into the case, my Evga's strictly blow hot air out of the back. Now if you have a good cooling setup with your case and your cards disipate some of the hot air both out the back and into the case, you are good.

It is all about heat and testing in ideal circumstances (gaming). Unigine does a good job as it maintains the cards close to 98% usage, most games do not use 98% of your card (some do though)...so good testing, doing slight increases to the core, then adjusting volatage will gain you some good yields on increased performance. For me, I took 2 stock 580's from the factory set of 772mhz and am running them at 900mhz for the last 4-5 months with no issues. That is a huge gain in speed for a simple tweak that you can easily do.

If I did not say it enough and others have as well, just keep an eye on the temps and if you get artifacts. Always increase core without voltage..once you crash or get artifacts, then add some v-core voltage a little at a time. This can be time consuming cause of the testing time, but well worth it. Lastly, one 580 can be different than another 580 right next to it, even if it is the same brand. Some GPU's just OC better than others, it just depends on what you get, so just cause you know someone that has the same GPU as you do, does not mean you will get the same exact results.
 
I'm not too up to date on stress tests (Furmark is good for stressing temps, but not stability). Unigine sounds good, then.

Also, the clocks you end up with will somewhat depend on luck. Some cards will overclock much better than others...it's the luck of the draw.
 
Hawk269 said:
Smokey, which has the new hotness MSI Lightning Extreme could easily hit 950-980 on the core and probably be at 75-80c or even lower at max load cause of the cooling system on that card. It really depends on the card you have and how it handles heat. The lighnings dispose of heat through the back but also into the case, my Evga's strictly blow hot air out of the back. Now if you have a good cooling setup with your case and your cards disipate some of the hot air both out the back and into the case, you are good.

Yah right now I'm sitting at 1.088v with a core clock of 941mhz. Temps max at 71c. Tried getting it to 950 but Heaven keeps crashing. Probably need to go to 1.1 or beyond, but for some reason I have a mental barrier as I approach 1.1v lol.


Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
Ok thanks. The glasses don't come with the usb emitter. I have to either get the pack with Duke Nukem Forever for 32€ more or the wired glasses for 32€ less. Tough choice :/

This is my build right now:

Samsung Bluray Combo SATA 12X
Lian Li PC-Z70 case
MSI P67A-GD80 B3, LGA1155, Intel P67, DDR3, ATX
Intel Core i5 2500K
Thermalright Silver Arrow
G-Skill 8GB Dual Kit Ripjaws X (2x4GB), DDR3 1600
Samsung 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM
Samsung 2TB SpinPoint EcoGreen F4, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 5400 x2
Crucial M4 128Gb
MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning, 1536MB GDDR5
Asus XONAR DG
Corsair 650W 650AX
I'm ordering on monday so hopefully I'll have a proper gaming PC within 2 weeks!

Sweet. Beast rig my man.
 
actually for most stock/reference design Nvidia GTX cards you can somewhat predict overclockability by looking at their default voltage on stock clockspeed. (still luck of the draw as you'll never know which voltage your card has until you stick it in your system :p)

My GTX480 was set to 1.088v , which is pretty much the highest I've seen :( it overclocked badly on air (even with Accelero), only water+lots of voltage can get it to nice clockspeeds

most 480s seemed to have 1.050v , some great clocking ones even needed just 1.025v ...

For the factory overclocked cards this is different because manufacturers often apply extra voltage. Or they don't resulting in cards that aren't totally stable at advertised speeds lol. Also voltages between different Nvidia chips aren't comparable ;)

Unigine Heaven is a good benchmark, free and it stresses out videocards as much as the most demanding games do. Furmark/OCCT stress even more but they're obviously not representative for the load normal graphical applications put on a GPU.
 
n0n44m said:
actually for most stock/reference design Nvidia GTX cards you can somewhat predict overclockability by looking at their default voltage on stock clockspeed. (still luck of the draw as you'll never know which voltage your card has until you stick it in your system :p)

My GTX480 was set to 1.088v , which is pretty much the highest I've seen :( it overclocked badly on air (even with Accelero), only water+lots of voltage can get it to nice clockspeeds

most 480s seemed to have 1.050v , some great clocking ones even needed just 1.025v ...

For the factory overclocked cards this is different because manufacturers often apply extra voltage. Or they don't resulting in cards that aren't totally stable at advertised speeds lol. Also voltages between different Nvidia chips aren't comparable ;)

Unigine Heaven is a good benchmark, free and it stresses out videocards as much as the most demanding games do. Furmark/OCCT stress even more but they're obviously not representative for the load normal graphical applications put on a GPU.

I think I probably hit pretty well on my GTX 570s:

The first one is 0.98V
The second one is 1.0V

Sadly, SLI and stock coolers means they run hot and, as a result, don't have much room for overclockability unless I want to increase the fan speed.

edit: fixed...0.91V was only at half speed. :(
 
TheExodu5 said:
I'm not too up to date on stress tests (Furmark is good for stressing temps, but not stability). Unigine sounds good, then.

Also, the clocks you end up with will somewhat depend on luck. Some cards will overclock much better than others...it's the luck of the draw.

I've read and been told that Furmark can actually hurt 570 cards. Is that true at all?
 
Smokey said:
Yah right now I'm sitting at 1.088v with a core clock of 941mhz. Temps max at 71c. Tried getting it to 950 but Heaven keeps crashing. Probably need to go to 1.1 or beyond, but for some reason I have a mental barrier as I approach 1.1v lol.




Sweet. Beast rig my man.

Go for it. I just got the OC bug right now and tried going to 920mhz. Got through 1 pass of Unigine and crash. Changed voltage to 1200 and that solved it. I did hit about 88c after 2 runs and decided that a 20mhz core increase is not worth the heat and it is cool today, so I know that ambient temps have alot to do with it. So I went back to 900mhz, 1100 vcore and am retesting. Even though I was running at 900/1100v before, I always re-test. I am currenly on pass no. 5 and I top out at 80c on the top card, 72c on the bottom card, with the top card fan at 75%, bottom card at 67% fan speed. Again, today is rather cool, more than normal, so that accounts for my lower temps.

If you were to go to 1100 voltage which is what I use on both of my cards for the last 3-5 months and I top out at about 88c on a warm day and with about 8-10 passes of Unigine, I would guess that you would top out at 75c at 950mhz with a 1100 voltage. That is like nothing man, especially for that card. Since I live near the coast, my normal day to day when gaming, running 900core, 1100 voltage, I would say I normally operate at around 82-85c.

The real question Smokey is what fan speed are you at when you hit that 71c? At 80c my top card is at 75%, since I have a custom fan profile. My fan will hit 80% when temps hit 85c, then if it goes any higher the fan goes to 85%, but that has never happened. I am guessing your fan speed is much lower than mine. Probably alot lower. I am envious of that card of yours and have begun to look into it myself...lol. I have no will power...hahaha
 
Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
Ok thanks. The glasses don't come with the usb emitter. I have to either get the pack with Duke Nukem Forever for 32€ more or the wired glasses for 32€ less. Tough choice :/

This is my build right now:

Samsung Bluray Combo SATA 12X
Lian Li PC-Z70 case
MSI P67A-GD80 B3, LGA1155, Intel P67, DDR3, ATX
Intel Core i5 2500K
Thermalright Silver Arrow
G-Skill 8GB Dual Kit Ripjaws X (2x4GB), DDR3 1600
Samsung 1TB SpinPoint F3 3.5", SATAII, 32MB, 7200RPM
Samsung 2TB SpinPoint EcoGreen F4, 3.5", SATA II, 32MB, 5400 x2
Crucial M4 128Gb
MSI GeForce GTX 580 Lightning, 1536MB GDDR5
Asus XONAR DG
Corsair 650W 650AX
I'm ordering on monday so hopefully I'll have a proper gaming PC within 2 weeks!

Are you planning to OC the CPU and GPU? If so, I would recommend just a wee bit more PSU power. You got quite a beast there, don't skimp on a PSU. If you ever, ever desire SLI you will need more power as well. I just thing that adding an OC to both GPU/CPU and you are running a 580 that 650w might be a little close...you might be ok, but I have learned to always have a bit of headroom when it comes to PSU's.

If you order on Monday from Newegg, you will have your stuff by Friday...hell you will be gaming for he weekend man!
 
Hawk269 said:
Are you planning to OC the CPU and GPU? If so, I would recommend just a wee bit more PSU power. You got quite a beast there, don't skimp on a PSU. If you ever, ever desire SLI you will need more power as well. I just thing that adding an OC to both GPU/CPU and you are running a 580 that 650w might be a little close...you might be ok, but I have learned to always have a bit of headroom when it comes to PSU's.

If you order on Monday from Newegg, you will have your stuff by Friday...hell you will be gaming for he weekend man!
I am planning to OC so I guess I better get a 750W PSU then haha.
Unfortunately I live in Finland so I can't order from newegg. I'm ordering from a local store instead.
 
Hawk269 said:
Are you planning to OC the CPU and GPU? If so, I would recommend just a wee bit more PSU power. You got quite a beast there, don't skimp on a PSU. If you ever, ever desire SLI you will need more power as well. I just thing that adding an OC to both GPU/CPU and you are running a 580 that 650w might be a little close...you might be ok, but I have learned to always have a bit of headroom when it comes to PSU's.

If you order on Monday from Newegg, you will have your stuff by Friday...hell you will be gaming for he weekend man!

nah man TX/HX/AX650 have more than enough headroom for any single card

running my 2600K close to 1.4v and GTX480 at 1.2v (unlocked through biosflash) and my HX650 has plenty left ... let alone an AX650

750W is no-one's land for PSU, 560/6950 will run SLI/Crossfire on a 650W as well and for heavier cards you're quickly looking at 850W or higher... 650W is the best choice for those who have no interest in multi-gpu setups :)
 
Can someone explain to my the lightning phenomena / glitch that happens to certain surfaces in certain games. Here is one example in Deus ex, on the wall.

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Can someone explain to my the lightning phenomena / glitch that happens to certain surfaces in certain games. Here is one example in Deus ex, on the wall.
Pretty sure that's an issue with the game, I don't have it but I think it's been posted before. I might be thinking of something else though.


Doubt you would need anything more than 650W for any single GPU rig, even with OCing. With most builds 550W is enough (or more than enough).
 
Corky said:
Can someone explain to my the lightning phenomena / glitch that happens to certain surfaces in certain games. Here is one example in Deus ex, on the wall.
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You were really just looking for an excuse to post a high resolution screenshot weren't you?
 
n0n44m said:
nah man TX/HX/AX650 have more than enough headroom for any single card

running my 2600K close to 1.4v and GTX480 at 1.2v (unlocked through biosflash) and my HX650 has plenty left ... let alone an AX650

750W is no-one's land for PSU, 560/6950 will run SLI/Crossfire on a 650W as well and for heavier cards you're quickly looking at 850W or higher... 650W is the best choice for those who have no interest in multi-gpu setups :)

Like I said, I was thinking it might be close, so it was not entirely 100% calculated. I have learned always to have a little extra, but it sounds like you have a very similar setup, not sure if you have as many drives as his. So, it sounds like his PSU should be good enough...unless he plans to SLI, which I would go to an 850w or so.
 
@corky -

Looks like color banding. Had you not posted the screenshot, and described the issue, I'd have said it was your monitor. Since we can all see it, I'm guessing it's a problem with the game.
 
with the Batman Arkham City deal, I'm thinking about upgrading to a new Nvidia card, but I'd like a meaningful upgrade that's not too expensive.

Right now I have a Nvidia gtx275.

Other random info: my CPU is a an intel q9550 (quad core, slightly overclocked past 3ghz), 8 gigs of DDR2 ram, and I don't think I'm ready to do a full upgrade to a new motherboard and all that.

Would it be wise to just upgrade the gtx275 to a new card? gtx560ti or 570 or something?
 
Linkzg said:
with the Batman Arkham City deal, I'm thinking about upgrading to a new Nvidia card, but I'd like a meaningful upgrade that's not too expensive.

Right now I have a Nvidia gtx275.

Other random info: my CPU is a an intel q9550 (quad core, slightly overclocked past 3ghz), 8 gigs of DDR2 ram, and I don't think I'm ready to do a full upgrade to a new motherboard and all that.

Would it be wise to just upgrade the gtx275 to a new card? gtx560ti or 570 or something?

I upgraded from my 8800 GTS to a 560ti last week. The 570/580 was tempting, but with 28nm gpus coming out next year, I didn't wanna go big. That's just my opinion though.
 
Linkzg said:
with the Batman Arkham City deal, I'm thinking about upgrading to a new Nvidia card, but I'd like a meaningful upgrade that's not too expensive.

Right now I have a Nvidia gtx275.

Other random info: my CPU is a an intel q9550 (quad core, slightly overclocked past 3ghz), 8 gigs of DDR2 ram, and I don't think I'm ready to do a full upgrade to a new motherboard and all that.

Would it be wise to just upgrade the gtx275 to a new card? gtx560ti or 570 or something?
Ehh. I'd say to wait. If you aren't happy with your frames then upgrade.
If you really won't get an ATi card you might as well buy now. 560Ti is good, 570 is better. 560Ti is a good pricepoint though.
 
Linkzg said:
with the Batman Arkham City deal, I'm thinking about upgrading to a new Nvidia card, but I'd like a meaningful upgrade that's not too expensive.

Right now I have a Nvidia gtx275.

Other random info: my CPU is a an intel q9550 (quad core, slightly overclocked past 3ghz), 8 gigs of DDR2 ram, and I don't think I'm ready to do a full upgrade to a new motherboard and all that.

Would it be wise to just upgrade the gtx275 to a new card? gtx560ti or 570 or something?
New card should be enough with your system.
 
Does anyone else think its strange that Nvidia are going to be pushing their current cards 4-6 weeks before they are supposedly lunching the 600 series.
 
Gav47 said:
Does anyone else think its strange that Nvidia are going to be pushing their current cards 4-6 weeks before they are supposedly lunching the 600 series.
6 series should be in 2012 I thought?
They are trying to sell before AMD gets their 7xxx series out I would think.
 
Hawk269 said:
Go for it. I just got the OC bug right now and tried going to 920mhz. Got through 1 pass of Unigine and crash. Changed voltage to 1200 and that solved it. I did hit about 88c after 2 runs and decided that a 20mhz core increase is not worth the heat and it is cool today, so I know that ambient temps have alot to do with it. So I went back to 900mhz, 1100 vcore and am retesting. Even though I was running at 900/1100v before, I always re-test. I am currenly on pass no. 5 and I top out at 80c on the top card, 72c on the bottom card, with the top card fan at 75%, bottom card at 67% fan speed. Again, today is rather cool, more than normal, so that accounts for my lower temps.

If you were to go to 1100 voltage which is what I use on both of my cards for the last 3-5 months and I top out at about 88c on a warm day and with about 8-10 passes of Unigine, I would guess that you would top out at 75c at 950mhz with a 1100 voltage. That is like nothing man, especially for that card. Since I live near the coast, my normal day to day when gaming, running 900core, 1100 voltage, I would say I normally operate at around 82-85c.

The real question Smokey is what fan speed are you at when you hit that 71c? At 80c my top card is at 75%, since I have a custom fan profile. My fan will hit 80% when temps hit 85c, then if it goes any higher the fan goes to 85%, but that has never happened. I am guessing your fan speed is much lower than mine. Probably alot lower. I am envious of that card of yours and have begun to look into it myself...lol. I have no will power...hahaha

Here's my custom fan profile:

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MedIC86 said:
dat banding

LordCanti said:
@corky -

Looks like color banding. Had you not posted the screenshot, and described the issue, I'd have said it was your monitor. Since we can all see it, I'm guessing it's a problem with the game.

Is this a usual problem in games or am I just unluckY?


coopolon said:
You were really just looking for an excuse to post a high resolution screenshot weren't you?

hahaha nah man come on, it's resized ^_^

<3
 
Hazaro said:
Ehh. I'd say to wait. If you aren't happy with your frames then upgrade.
If you really won't get an ATi card you might as well buy now. 560Ti is good, 570 is better. 560Ti is a good pricepoint though.

It's mostly for price. I figure a 560ti will be ~$200 after the rebate, minus the $50 I was going to spend for Arkham City. $150 for DX11 effects and a modest performance increase sounds fine for now.

Next time I make a big upgrade is when games are really running poor. Right now I'm feeling greedy because I can still get well above 30, not quite 60, with it a notch below maximum at my monitors 1680x1050 resolution.

Funny thing is that my gtx275 is exactly 2 years old because I got Arkham Asylum free with it.

edit: $200 w/rebate would be the low end. Most of the cards would be around $230.

thinking of just going EVGA again
 
Hazaro said:
6 series should be in 2012 I thought?
They are trying to sell before AMD gets their 7xxx series out I would think.
I read an article (granted this was back in May) that stated they were pushing for limited late 2011 release with supplies being replenished after Christmas. But things may have changed.
 
So I bought one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102951&Tpk=6950 toxic around two weeks ago with the plan to go CrossFire once I'd settled in a bit with the new build. Unfortunately, it's pretty much been sold out on Newegg since I bought it and I'm not really seeing it elsewhere.

What's the opinion on running CrossFire with similar if not identical cards (could be an issue anyhow if I found a second 6950 Toxic that wouldn't unlock to 6970 like my current one does), and what's the closest card to this model if that's no big deal?
 
Yeah, anyone that was planning to get Arkham City right away anyway gets an effective $50 price drop on the GeForces, which is probably enough incentive especially if they don't want to go with AMD. Makes me wish I waited anyway, just two more weeks and I would've gotten Arkham City! The card I got rose in price by about $15, but the only way that's going to be counterbalanced here is if I wait a year or something on Arkham City.
 
SalsaShark said:
ive been diggin around on the process of OCing my i5 2500k and just realized that my p67 board Asus LE edition cant be overclocked by BIOS or something like that? rather you overclock the turbo boost through the Suite software thing? wat :|

is that bad?


also what does disabling C3 and C6 report do on BIOS? since i disabled those to stop the random PSU whining (when usb-conecting a 360 pad reciever) a while back.

anyone?
 
Smokey said:
Here's my custom fan profile:

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Hmnmm...interesting config you got. Any reason, you don't have more of an in-between? I have about 8 points on my fan profile..I am wondering with the cooling mechanism of your card if putting the fan to 60-65% at 65c will help cool it before it jumps to the high speed you have it at?

Also, now that you have me bitten with the bug to buy a lightning, at that temp and the speed those fans are going, is the card loud?

Oh and get that bitch up to 950mhz and report back. I want to here how the temps are, fan speed and performance. Get on it stat Smokey...lol
 
Gav47 said:
I read an article (granted this was back in May) that stated they were pushing for limited late 2011 release with supplies being replenished after Christmas. But things may have changed.
They've had to do more work on 28nm than expected, nVidia most likely will be trying very very hard to get out their cards for BF3, but I don't know if they can. I feel it's more 2012.
Hawk269 said:
Hmnmm...interesting config you got. Any reason, you don't have more of an in-between? I have about 8 points on my fan profile..I am wondering with the cooling mechanism of your card if putting the fan to 60-65% at 65c will help cool it before it jumps to the high speed you have it at?

Also, now that you have me bitten with the bug to buy a lightning, at that temp and the speed those fans are going, is the card loud?

Oh and get that bitch up to 950mhz and report back. I want to here how the temps are, fan speed and performance. Get on it stat Smokey...lol
The fan will ramp up along the line as well. I like steps (like a staircase) so the fan doesn't alternate constantly between say 40% and 42% fan speed.
SalsaShark said:
That's why whenever I see anyone post the LE board I tell them not to buy it. No Bios OC. I don't know much about their OC software.
C3 and C6 are power saving stepping stuff iirc.
 
Hazaro said:
That's why whenever I see anyone post the LE board I tell them not to buy it. No Bios OC. I don't know much about their OC software.
C3 and C6 are power saving stepping stuff iirc.

Im really fucking pissed at this :/ i thought every P67 had regular OC and i even saved cash to buy this one over an H67. What's the downside of doing software OC?

And thanks. Im wondering if C3 and C6 are related to the turbo boost though.. since you basically need to use that to OC afaik.
 
Out of curiosity how capable is the The Damn Capable Build? What kind of performance does it give?
 
Hawk269 said:
Hmnmm...interesting config you got. Any reason, you don't have more of an in-between? I have about 8 points on my fan profile..I am wondering with the cooling mechanism of your card if putting the fan to 60-65% at 65c will help cool it before it jumps to the high speed you have it at?

Also, now that you have me bitten with the bug to buy a lightning, at that temp and the speed those fans are going, is the card loud?

Oh and get that bitch up to 950mhz and report back. I want to here how the temps are, fan speed and performance. Get on it stat Smokey...lol

The fan speed will still climb in between the points. The highest I've seen the card get is 71c and that's during the Heaven benchmark.. So at that point my fans are going at 70%. I also have the 3 fans at the bottom of my FT02 case running at high as well whenever I'm bench marking. So the entire computer makes quite a bit of noise, but when gaming I don't notice it.
 
Need a bit of advice hooking my pc up to my tv. I'm using vga so picture is fine, but of course vga doesnt carry sound. So what do I use for sound? I guess its a 3.5 jack to jack. Theres a little jack slot right next the vga slot on my tv. But do I have to put the other end into the headphone socket on my pc? This is inconvenient because it'll mean a cable will run from the front of my case which I'd rather not do (it'll look messy!). My asus p8z68 mobo has a bunch of audio connectors. 1 currently goes to my speakers and 1 to mic. There are 4 others there, hope I can use one of those but I think they're for 5.1, 7.1 etc setups. Any help?
 
elrechazao said:
I'd say it's pretty damn capable. Sorry, couldn't resist.

I'm incredibly disappointed in myself that I didn't see that coming.
 
Freyjadour said:
So I bought one of these: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102951&Tpk=6950 toxic around two weeks ago with the plan to go CrossFire once I'd settled in a bit with the new build. Unfortunately, it's pretty much been sold out on Newegg since I bought it and I'm not really seeing it elsewhere.

What's the opinion on running CrossFire with similar if not identical cards (could be an issue anyhow if I found a second 6950 Toxic that wouldn't unlock to 6970 like my current one does), and what's the closest card to this model if that's no big deal?
As long as they are 6950/6970 cards, they will work fine in CF. You would want same amount of video ram, but core and memory speed doesn't matter. AMD is good at load balancing between different core and memory speeds.
 
NinjaFridge said:
Out of curiosity how capable is the The Damn Capable Build? What kind of performance does it give?
Depends what you are expecting out of it.

So far no one who has posted that they have one has replied to doing any benches or anything.
 
Guys, I just got a A6-3400M notebook. Anyone here familiar enough with fusion processors to tell me what I need to do for this lappy? Catalyst doesn't even install on this system...
 
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