"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]
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ConstructMe
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DSN2K said:
Lol but you'll be able to pick a new one up pretty cheaply.
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Jarrod4321 said:
So SLI/Crossfire doesn't always equal better? I have 8GB of Ram, not sure if that makes a difference.
ConstructMe
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8GB of Ram is tonnes, and yes SLI would make a difference but it would be much more beneficial to get one $300 card than two $150 cards for much better performance and no added worries of SLI.legacyzero said:
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So when upgrading, And I go with the advise of just one $300 card, should I go with Nvidia or ATI? What's the pro's and cons? I'm still learning this whole thing.
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legacyzero said:
It depends Nvidia has the edge in some games and has much better drivers than AMD, but the Nvidia can't do three screens with one card if that matters to you.
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legacyzero said:
It depends on the cards you xfire/sli. Obviously two less powerfull cards cant beat out 1 great powerfull gpu. But when you are buying higher end cards, nothing beats out dual/tri or quad gpu setups. With AMD/Nvidia coming out with newer cards in the near future or so this may change a bit, but we dont know enough about the new cards as of yet.
For me, SLI is worth it and has been fantastic for me.
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Hawk269 said:
He was talking about doing SLI 460 which isnt advisable.
Dont think this was posted yet but Anand wrote up a good preview of Ivy Bridge.
New Chipset comparison
Seems nothing feature wise is radically different then Sandy Bridge other then PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0 . Seems most of the freed up TDP is being used to make lower power procesors and better integrated GPU. I'm a little disappointed that they are dedicating even more transistor count to the GPU but hopefully the higher end desktop SKUs will be even better at overclocking then Sandy Bridge. Max multiplier has been raised to 63 and memory is now supported up to 2800MHz
New Chipset comparison
Seems nothing feature wise is radically different then Sandy Bridge other then PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0 . Seems most of the freed up TDP is being used to make lower power procesors and better integrated GPU. I'm a little disappointed that they are dedicating even more transistor count to the GPU but hopefully the higher end desktop SKUs will be even better at overclocking then Sandy Bridge. Max multiplier has been raised to 63 and memory is now supported up to 2800MHz
You should be using the CCC instead of Vision. Download and install them.punkypine said:
http://sites.amd.com/us/game/downloads/Pages/radeon_win7-64.aspx
When you install the program, don't use the default location, but select/change to another drive. If you are talking about game save files, they are usually very small so should easily fit onto the SSD.Jarrod4321 said:
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Anyone have any ideas?Cocopjojo said:
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Jarrod4321 said:
Not at all, AMD drivers have been quite good with the 6000 series and have been superior in some games. There are also games that favor AMD architecture. It is certainly not one company over the other by any means.
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This may be a dumb question but how can I format it? I don't have that option in Disk Management, and I can't "see" the drive anywhere else.knitoe said:
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I haven't tried that because I didn't know what a "simple volume" was. I guess I'll try it now.mug said:
EDIT: Yeah, that's it. It's giving me the option to format it now. Funny, I was too scared to try that because I hadn't ever heard that term before and I wasn't sure what it meant. I guess it's not like I could have caused any permanent damage, but I just got the drive, so I was nervous. Thanks.
I see. It works. Thank you.Darkatomz said:
I just ran it and my results are worst than yours and I'm running a HD Radeon 6950 card. Is there something wrong with my setup? My result.Big Papa Husker said:I just ran the Heaven Benchmark on Max DX10 settings. Not too bad I'd say, considering I'm using a GFX card from 2008.
FPS:
24.8
Scores:
624
Min FPS:
6.2
Max FPS:
75.3
Hardware
Binary:
Windows 32bit Visual C++ 1600 Release Mar 1 2011
Operating system:
Windows 7 (build 7600) 64bit
CPU model:
AMD Athlon(tm) II X4 640 Processor
CPU flags:
3013MHz MMX+ 3DNow!+ SSE SSE2 SSE3 SSE4A HTT
GPU model:
AMD Radeon HD 6900 Series 8.881.0.0 1024Mb
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Render:
direct3d11
Mode:
1680x1050 4xAA fullscreen
Shaders:
high
Textures:
high
Filter:
trilinear
Anisotropy:
4x
Occlusion:
enabled
Refraction:
enabled
Volumetric:
enabled
Tessellation:
extreme
Angelus Errare
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Le-mo said:
You gotta upload the image, copy pasting your Windows directory does nothing.
And the reason why your score is lower is because you have tessellation enabled, he doesn't
Been watching this thread for a month or two since I've been planning on building a PC (my first ever gaming capable PC wtf?) for the holidays, and I figured I'd go ahead and bite the bullet and ask...
So based on the OP builds using the GTX570, do you think it'd be worth it to go the extra mile and grab a 580, and eventually purchase a 580 SLI setup (assuming prices will drop later this year), or would it be just as reasonable to just grab the 570 and use that extra money towards other things?
A few things to keep in mind, I will only be using one 23" display, but will likely do a lot of 3D.
So based on the OP builds using the GTX570, do you think it'd be worth it to go the extra mile and grab a 580, and eventually purchase a 580 SLI setup (assuming prices will drop later this year), or would it be just as reasonable to just grab the 570 and use that extra money towards other things?
A few things to keep in mind, I will only be using one 23" display, but will likely do a lot of 3D.
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Cocopjojo said:Anyone have any ideas?
Format the drive. Right click and format.
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Thats why i said some games such as Crysis 2.Tallshortman said:
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Jarrod4321 said:
And some games favor AMD, it's certainly not offering a fair comparison/advice if you only mention that some games favor Nvidia architecture.
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Le-mo said:
He has tessellation disabled and you have it on extreme, it makes a huge difference in terms of fps. Your results looks fine for a 6950.
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I was trying to explain that both brands offer their advantages.Tallshortman said:
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scogoth said:Dont think this was posted yet but Anand wrote up a good preview of Ivy Bridge.
New Chipset comparison
Seems nothing feature wise is radically different then Sandy Bridge other then PCIe 3.0 and USB 3.0 . Seems most of the freed up TDP is being used to make lower power procesors and better integrated GPU. I'm a little disappointed that they are dedicating even more transistor count to the GPU but hopefully the higher end desktop SKUs will be even better at overclocking then Sandy Bridge. Max multiplier has been raised to 63 and memory is now supported up to 2800MHz
Are they expected to abandon 1155 after IVB?
I'm going to be building my first PC since 2006, and I've decided to go with the "Enhanced" build from this thread, since it perfectly fits into my computer budget (along with a monitor and the $30 student copy of Windows 7). I made sure to add Arctic Silver to my shopping cart, because the last time I built a PC, it wouldn't even run the first time without using that.
Is there anything else I should know or consider before I click the Checkout button, or am I good to go with the Enhanced build?
Is there anything else I should know or consider before I click the Checkout button, or am I good to go with the Enhanced build?
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Reallink said:
Knowing Intel.....probably
Get a PSU larger than what your system actually needs. You'll be paying for wattage you won't actually use, sure, but it means your PSU won't have to work as hard and therefore won't run as hot and need its fans to ramp up, which in turn means it runs quieter and lasts longer. As an added bonus.DEO3 said:
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First post from my new machine. Running an i5 2500k with 8 gigs of RAM, a GTX 570, and an 80 gig Intel 320 ssd. Messed around with Civ V last night and was very happy with how it performed compared to my old 3800/2 gigs RAM/9500. I did a few of the recommendations from the first post for my ssd and freed up a pretty significant amount of space - THANKS!
One thing that does concern me a little is the heat. I downloaded Prime 95, CPUID Hardware Monitor, CPU-Z, and Core Temp and things looked a little high to me. I'll work on getting a screen up but the cpu temps under load were running in the 48-53 range with a min/max around 32/60. The 570 was doing better, running at 31 with a min/max of 26/44. I have a CoolerMaster 690 II Advanced case with 4 fans and an H60 on the cpu. I have not yet even tried to overclock. Does this sound right?
One thing that does concern me a little is the heat. I downloaded Prime 95, CPUID Hardware Monitor, CPU-Z, and Core Temp and things looked a little high to me. I'll work on getting a screen up but the cpu temps under load were running in the 48-53 range with a min/max around 32/60. The 570 was doing better, running at 31 with a min/max of 26/44. I have a CoolerMaster 690 II Advanced case with 4 fans and an H60 on the cpu. I have not yet even tried to overclock. Does this sound right?
I have a question about the NCIX PC Builder option. I am in the US and would like to use it to build a gaming PC by buying the parts and have them assemble it fot $50. However I am very confused on how to do it. On their Canadian site they have a PC Builder tool that'll help you put it together. I have read through some google results saying that you can just pick all the parts you want, add them to the cart and select a PC Assemble option.
Which site do I use? The US one doesn't seem to have the PC Builder tool, do I order form the Canadian site and have it shipped to the US?
Which site do I use? The US one doesn't seem to have the PC Builder tool, do I order form the Canadian site and have it shipped to the US?
Probably.Reallink said:
CPU under 60C load, GPU under 95C load is in check. Temps seem fine.Tonner Cyn said:
570 + other money. Sticking with single card is fine as new GPUs come out pretty often imo.Ryaaan14 said:
I don't know if they have it yet, they may in some transition period because they just opened a US warehouse and might want to have some builders here or something. Post on their forums / email them.Renmei said:
My PC specs atm:
4gb of DDR3 ram, 1333.
Amd Phenom II 965 @ 3,4
Sapphire Radeon 5850 1gb default clock
1tb HDD 7400rmp + 250gb 5400rpm
Asus M4A87TD EVO
Skyrim is 2 months from now (and BF3 is just about one month!!), should I do an upgrade? If so, what should I upgrade? Graphics card? What's the possibilities?
Thanks.
4gb of DDR3 ram, 1333.
Amd Phenom II 965 @ 3,4
Sapphire Radeon 5850 1gb default clock
1tb HDD 7400rmp + 250gb 5400rpm
Asus M4A87TD EVO
Skyrim is 2 months from now (and BF3 is just about one month!!), should I do an upgrade? If so, what should I upgrade? Graphics card? What's the possibilities?
Thanks.
Skyrim's console focused, so you're probably good at least for medium settings or whatever. In fact, from what I understand if you're not planning to spend more then around $250 you may not even be able to get a significant upgrade on the video card. CPU, well, I IMAGINE you'll be fine, Sandy Bridge creams anything AMD but I think that only really matters for a few games like Bad Company 2 and the Witcher 2.
SalomonA said:
Wait for the BF3 beta. If you don't like the performance you are getting, you could think about a GPU upgrade. The 5850 is only a gen old though, and it's a good mid-range card. If you were to upgrade, think $200 or so for a GTX 560 ti, or HD6950 as the likely upgrade path (just know that the performance probably won't be night and day from a card that new. You might try selling it to make up the difference.)
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knitoe said:
Why? Have you done or read tests that show it is better than Arctic Silver?
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