"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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bodyboarder said:
Coolermaster RC-341-KKR4 Elite RC-341 wtih PSU
Intel Core i3-2100 1155pin Boxed CPU
ASRock H61M-VS All-In-One 1155pin DDR3 Motherboard
G.Skill-NQ 4GB Kit(2Gx2) DDR3 1600 RAM
ASUS 1GB 6870 PCI-E VGA Card

$450ish.

Just wanting something "cheap" to hook up to the tv for games so 1080p will be the max res stuff will be run at. Any comments, and ideas how long it will last me (ie. how long should I be able to play games easily at 1080p into the future)?
I don't think anyone can say how long it will last. More cores is the way everything is headed, but a fast dualcode with HT should be pretty solid for a while. When games start requiring a quad then just drop in a new CPU (Most likely an Ivy Bridge refresh).
 
Replacing my 5870 with a GTX 580 today (package just arrived). I have an i7-920 CPU, do I need to upgrade or am I good for the time being?
 
Le-mo said:
Gaf, tell me if this setup would work. Since I can't get my receiver to display the output to my t.v. from my computer I was thinking of getting an optical cable to transmit sound to my receiver while having my PC directly connected to my t.v. Would this work? So it would basically be:

PC > TV
PC Optical > Receiver > Speakers

Yup, that's how I've got my stuff hooked up. Guess you have some HDMI handshaking issues going on with your receiver? Mine flips out and starts switching display modes like crazy when I try to hook the pc up to the receiver. Wish there were a way to get it to work...
 
AgentWhiskers said:
Replacing my 5870 with a GTX 580 today (package just arrived). I have an i7-920 CPU, do I need to upgrade or am I good for the time being?

You're perfectly good for at least another 12 months. Check your BF3 performance and then decide if you thin it's worth upgrading.
 
AgentWhiskers said:
Thanks! Will do so tonight.

Giving it another thought, run some CPU-intensive games as well, like Starcraft II, and if you notice any performance drops they're most likely down to your processor.
 
Okay Master-Racer-GAF - i think its time for me to built a new machine.

- Pricepoint 600-700€ @ max and another 200-250 for a new monitor
- need to play actual console games like (Arkham City, Mass Effect Trilogy, Skyrim) and Diablo 3/Starcraft 2 and every Valve game in 1080P
- should be able to use dolphin and the PC2X emulator
- i am more attached to amd/ati and would rather support them, but at this price range it seems that the Intel CPUs are pretty much the only choice right ? I think a Phenom II X4 would be suffiecient for most PC games, but since i plan to emulate Wii/Ps2 titles ill probably need the extra power
- as silent as possible, so i would rather have a silent and power-efficient card which is a lil bit slower

I will probably get it at the beginning of november..... is there a amd/intel combination you would recommend + 24" monitor.....##
 
i3-2100 will be your best (and cheapest) bet for PCSX2/Dolphin.

For $800... estimates:
- $120 = i3-2100
- $60 = cheapest H61 AsRock
- $30 = 4GB DDR3 GSkill
- $240 = HD6950
- $60 = CoolerMaster Haf 912
- $100 = Win7 Home Premium 64-bit
- $100 = 650W Corsair
- $60 = Samsung 1TB F3

$770 total (estimate). Rest for kb/m/speakers I guess.
 
Wolf Akela said:
i3-2100 will be your best (and cheapest) bet for PCSX2/Dolphin.

For $800... estimates:
- $120 = i3-2100
- $60 = cheapest H61 AsRock
- $30 = 4GB DDR3 GSkill
- $240 = HD6950
- $60 = CoolerMaster Haf 912
- $100 = Win7 Home Premium 64-bit
- $100 = 650W Corsair
- $60 = Samsung 1TB F3

$770 total (estimate). Rest for kb/m/speakers I guess.

Thanks :-)
i3-2100 that wouldnt be a quad-core right ? At this point i dont think i could afford buying a cpu with less than 4 cores. Same for the Ran, prices are very good right now - so i would want to go for 8gb there. And i already own Win7, should have mentioned it before.

Isnt the HD6950 kinda overpowered for my needs ? I read some people play console ports on their 8800 in 1080P. Would a mid-rage GPU to slow to play those mentioned games in 1080P ?
 
Enhanced build + 6870 would do you well. Drop the heatsink and it should put you in pretty close to what you want.
 
i3-2100 is just two cores but with hyperthreading so it's a pseudo-quad. It stands toe-to-toe with Phenom X4 955s in quad-core apps.

You can add ~$20 to go 8GB with RAM, though it won't benefit you a lot unless you're heavy into stuff like 3D.

6950 will beat the crap out of 99.999% of games out there. It doesn't much to max out Mass Effect. Sky Rim doesn't look graphically intensive. Never played Arhkam Asylum so no idea on the performance. I guess you can drop it down to a 6870, which should still max out the games you mentioned.

Since you're removing Win7 and willing to spend a bit more, you could go for an i5-2500k (~$220) plus a Z68 motherboard (~$120). It won't really benefit emulation though.
 
Hazaro said:
Enhanced build + 6870 would do you well. Drop the heatsink and it should put you in pretty close to what you want.

Thanks.
Im not that familiar with overclocking, does it make sense to get the 2500K if you dont want to overclock ? Or is it really that easy, with the free multi....or to put it this way, would the enhanced config be overclockable without getting some fency cooling components ?

If not i think the core i 2400 would also be a alternative. Or am i wrong ?

Wolf Akela said:
Since you're removing Win7 and willing to spend a bit more, you could go for an i5-2500k (~$220) plus a Z68 motherboard (~$120). It won't really benefit emulation though.

Thanks.
What benefits would i have from a z68 motherboard ? I wouldnt wanna spend extra money on features i dont plan to use. If i can save some money there, maybe ill just get an ssd instead though that would probably make the build too expensive.

Any suggesstions for a monitor ?
 
If you don't want to overclock, then you'll spend ~$210 on i5-2500 (not K), plus $60 on the cheapest H61 AsRock motherboard. P67/Z68 are required for overclocking.
 
cw_sasuke said:
Thanks.
Im not that familiar with overclocking, does it make sense to get the 2500K if you dont want to overclock ? Or is it really that easy, with the free multi....or to put it this way, would the enhanced config be overclockable without getting some fency cooling components ?

If not i think the core i 2400 would also be a alternative. Or am i wrong ?
Overclocking now is much simpler. A 2400 is also a good choice if you aren't comfortable with the idea, but if you are dropping over $700 USD I'd suggest a better built motherboard in the $100 range which happens to be those P67 and Z68 boards where you can overclock.
2500, 6950, etc. all fine choices. Depends where you want to put your money and how much you want to spend.
 
Wolf Akela said:
If you don't want to overclock, then you'll spend ~$210 on i5-2500 (not K), plus $60 on the cheapest H61 AsRock motherboard. P67/Z68 are required for overclocking.

Okay, right now im rooting for this combination.


Intel Core i5-2500K Box, LGA1155
ASRock Z68 Pro3 (B3), Sockel 1155, ATX
8GB-Kit G.Skill Sniper PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1333)
BitFenix Shinobi Midi-Tower black, ohne Netzteil
Corsair 650HX, 650 Watt
Club 3D Radeon 6850 1024MB, AMD Radeon HD 6850, PCI-Express
Samsung EcoGreen F4 2000GB, SATA II (HD204UI) 8,9cm (3,5")
LG GH22NS50/70 bare schwarz


This would cost me 703€. Anything wrong with it ?

Hazaro said:
Overclocking now is much simpler. A 2400 is also a good choice if you aren't comfortable with the idea, but if you are dropping over $700 USD I'd suggest a better built motherboard in the $100 range which happens to be those P67 and Z68 boards where you can overclock.
2500, 6950, etc. all fine choices. Depends where you want to put your money and how much you want to spend.
Much easier in = i could get some results even with the boxed cpu coolers ? Or what result could i at least expect with the mentioned config.

Since its been years since ive upgraded my current system, ill want to go with a more future proof build. I slim down on CPU/Mainboard and dont overclock i could still go for an ssd as system partition. But i dont know if i would benefit from an SSD. I found current HDD speeds already pretty good/fast.
 
Shall i get a new case (CM-690 II) and wait for Ivy Bridge or shall i upgrade to Sandy Bridge now?

I have a Phenom II X4 940 @ 3.6ghz, 4GB of DDR2 RAM and GTX480.
The Antec 300 is not that great for cooling the GTX480 as the card is not a reference card and it doesn't output the heat directly out at the back.
 
Anyone have a problem with Nvidia control panel not letting you change the screen position? On my TV it's cutting off the bottom and left side and not using like an inch on the right and half an inch on the top. I can resize it, but I see no options for changing the position.

I'm currently on the latest beta drivers, but I've also tried the latest stable ones also.

EDIT: Just watched a youtube video. Yeah, the whole box where I change my desktop position is just not there. Though Nvidia had better drivers. That's pretty not cool.

Here's a pic of my setting where you can see no option for position changing.

 
Hazaro said:
A 2500K is not necessary, but it will certainly help now and in the long run in case some games don't run full speed or are not as optimized. The extra speed will really help you out. Additionally if it ever moves to using more than 2 threads.

You need a P67 or Z68 motherboard (check one column to the right) to overclock. Start at $110.
Stock cooler will actually be fine on stock volts (or ~1.25V) to get you to 4Ghz or even up to 4.2Ghz. Otherwise a $30 CM 212+ is fine. A lot of very good $35 and $40 options as well.

Grab that Trackmania 2 free bundle, and that's some money off as well if you can offload it. Some Patriot and Corsair Vengeance RAM bundles with the CPU as well to save $5 or $10 as well.

*Of course you can just have these parts in mind and look out for deals in the coming months as well. A few people have done that in the thread here.

Thanks for all the advice. I'll definitely go 2500K then. If I overclock, I doubt I'll go past 4 GHz, so it's great that it will run fine even at that.

Edit- This P67 is $90, is it still good?
 
Roarer said:
Yup, that's how I've got my stuff hooked up. Guess you have some HDMI handshaking issues going on with your receiver? Mine flips out and starts switching display modes like crazy when I try to hook the pc up to the receiver. Wish there were a way to get it to work...
Ya, it gives me a green screen when I hook it up to my receiver. Well time to get an optical cable, thanks again.
 
Le-mo said:
Ya, it gives me a green screen when I hook it up to my receiver. Well time to get an optical cable, thanks again.

you do need a Dolby Digital Live / DTS Connect supporting sound card if you want to get surround sound from games over optical

HDMI does 5.1/7.1 without issues. Google your receiver model, maybe someone on AVS-forum or something like that has a solution/workaround

(I've got my Nvidia GTX 480 working flawlessly with my Yamaha RX-V661, and for my HTPC an AMD HD6450 with a Yamaha RX-V463, both with Samsung 1080p LCD's)


Hero_of_the_Day_1985 said:
Anyone have a problem with Nvidia control panel not letting you change the screen position? On my TV it's cutting off the bottom and left side and not using like an inch on the right and half an inch on the top. I can resize it, but I see no options for changing the position.

I'm currently on the latest beta drivers, but I've also tried the latest stable ones also.

EDIT: Just watched a youtube video. Yeah, the whole box where I change my desktop position is just not there. Though Nvidia had better drivers. That's pretty not cool.

Here's a pic of my setting where you can see no option for position changing.

can't you just set the TV to "just scan" or whatever your manufacturer calls it?
 
n0n44m said:
you do need a Dolby Digital Live / DTS Connect supporting sound card if you want to get surround sound from games over optical

HDMI does 5.1/7.1 without issues. Google your receiver model, maybe someone on AVS-forum or something like that has a solution/workaround

(I've got my Nvidia GTX 480 working flawlessly with my Yamaha RX-V661, and for my HTPC an AMD HD6450 with a Yamaha RX-V463, both with Samsung 1080p LCD's)




can't you just set the TV to "just scan" or whatever your manufacturer calls it?
I googled my receiver model (Yamaha HTR-6250) with the terms computer and AVS forum and the results was of no help. I do have a sound card right now that has DDL/DTS support but it is being used for my headset, if need be I can connect the headset to my motherboard's (GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H) optical input and use the sound card for my receiver.
 
n0n44m said:
can't you just set the TV to "just scan" or whatever your manufacturer calls it?

Don't think this TV has anything like that. Not seeing it at least. In my picture, there should be a section below my display selector with arrows to edit the position. Why there isn't, I don't know.
 
XiaNaphryz said:
I've moved on to GPU OC testing (MSI GTX 570 Twin Frozr II). So far looking stable at 1.025v/900/1800/2000, max temp so far 59 with fans at 59%. Not sure how much more I can push it at this voltage.
Looks like I could get to 945/1890 at 1.025, going up to 950 causes Kombustor to crash soon after starting the GPU burn test.
 
So these graphics cards come with mini-HDMI and HDMI connectors... if I hooked it up to my HDTV, would it show up as a second monitor? Would it just duplicate the picture? What are the caveats?
 
Le-mo said:
I googled my receiver model (Yamaha HTR-6250) with the terms computer and AVS forum and the results was of no help. I do have a sound card right now that has DDL/DTS support but it is being used for my headset, if need be I can connect the headset to my motherboard's (GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H) optical input and use the sound card for my receiver.

it seems to be a Yamaha RX-V565 which is newer than both of my receivers. I kinda suspect it might be an issue between the actual screen connected to the receiver, the receiver itself and the videocard, because as far as I know the Yamaha's don't alter the data sent through it at all and send all EDID/HDCP data from the TV directly to the videocard (hence why my screen is detected as a Samsung LCD and not as a Yamaha device like the poster a few post up from here who has a "Denon monitor").

In short, FUCK HDCP (I've been lucky enough not to have had serious issues with it yet)

but yeah if you have a soundcard that does DDL/DTS that is by far the easiest "fix", as the only other option would be EDID tweaking with lots of trial and error involved. Assuming there are no issues when connecting directly to the TV.

Hero_of_the_Day_1985 said:
Don't think this TV has anything like that. Not seeing it at least. In my picture, there should be a section below my display selector with arrows to edit the position. Why there isn't, I don't know.

on the "size" tab of your picture you can edit for any over/underscan issues for TVs that don't support 1:1/just scan

but actually editing the position seems very last-century-analogue-connection to me ... I mean digital (DVI/HDMI/etc) should always be centered right? TV's might *zoom in* too much (overscan) but I've never encountered issues with the image being out-of-center ?

Andrex said:
So these graphics cards come with mini-HDMI and HDMI connectors... if I hooked it up to my HDTV, would it show up as a second monitor? Would it just duplicate the picture? What are the caveats?

duplicate, extend, whatever you choose

caveat for duplicate would be that duplicating a screen that has a higher resolution than the TV is impossible, and if it has a lower resolution than the TV it will probably be pretty ugly. Generally TVs only look good at 1080p or 720p.
 
Ok so I'm about to overclock my 2500k using the guide in the OP.
Anything I should watch out for or other advice for an idiot who has never overclocked anything?
Edit: Another
dumb
question. Is it safe to browse the web while running stress tests?
 
I'm using the Corsair 650D case and unfortunately the 200 mm fans seem to be crapping out on me. Does anyone have any good recommendations for replacement fans? The selection on NCIX and Newegg is pretty bad for that size category. Also I'd prefer all black ones without any LEDs to match the rest of the case but I guess I'll take what I can get.

Another option I have for the top ventilation is to replace the 200 mm fan with dual 120 mm or 140 mm fans which I'm seriously considering at this point. Is there a way to hook up two to a single fan power connector on the motherboard because I think I've only got one spare. Also does anyone have any recommendations for these sizes? I've heard the Scythe Gentle Typhoons are supposed to be good but they seem to be out of stock everywhere. Also I should note I'm preferably looking for fairly quiet fans.
 
I'm getting a new CPU and Mobo soon. I'm going to have to do a fresh install of Windows 7 right? Is there any way of backing up all my programs or am I going to have to download and install them again?
 
Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
I'm running Prime 95 right now.
Getting max temp of 50C on 4GHz@1,12v. Is that good or should I be worried?


That's not a problem at all. You should be able to run 4.6hz around 1.35v

Temps can run into the low 80's for stress testing. Just know they won't see that during regular usage. 10 passes of Intel Burn Test are better than Prime95
 
RukusProvider said:
That's not a problem at all. You should be able to run 4.6hz around 1.35v

Temps can run into the low 80's for stress testing. Just know they won't see that during regular usage. 10 passes of Intel Burn Test are better than Prime95
Thanks for the response. I've never overclocked anything so I'm kind of paranoid haha.
 
n0n44m said:
duplicate, extend, whatever you choose

caveat for duplicate would be that duplicating a screen that has a higher resolution than the TV is impossible, and if it has a lower resolution than the TV it will probably be pretty ugly. Generally TVs only look good at 1080p or 720p.

And it just does that automatically, or do I have use some NVIDIA software to control it?
 
Andrex said:
Thanks for all the advice. I'll definitely go 2500K then. If I overclock, I doubt I'll go past 4 GHz, so it's great that it will run fine even at that.

Edit- This P67 is $90, is it still good?
I'd spend the extra $20 to pick a board, but if you get a good one it will be fine.
Andrex said:
And it just does that automatically, or do I have use some NVIDIA software to control it?
Right click your desktop, nvidia control panel, multiple monitors. Pick what you want. Easy.
Spectacular Dr Dawg said:
I'm running Prime 95 right now.
Getting max temp of 50C on 4GHz@1,12v. Is that good or should I be worried?
You want to keep it under 70C for stress testing. <65C in general.
 
Hazaro said:
You want to keep it under 70C for stress testing. <65C in general.
Thanks. I'm currently getteing a max temp of 62 on one of the cores running 4,5GHz@1,25v.
How long am I supposed to run the stress test? I'm thinking of running it for 8 hours tommorrow while I'm away from home.
 
n0n44m said:
on the "size" tab of your picture you can edit for any over/underscan issues for TVs that don't support 1:1/just scan

but actually editing the position seems very last-century-analogue-connection to me ... I mean digital (DVI/HDMI/etc) should always be centered right? TV's might *zoom in* too much (overscan) but I've never encountered issues with the image being out-of-center ?

Yeah, I've done the resizing to make it not cut off the left and bottom, but it of course makes the right and top cut off worse.

I've always had to move the position whenever I plug a computer into a TV (granted, I've only ever had two high def TVs). Never been a problem before on either ATI or Nvidia cards. Should be right there in the middle of my picture. I've seen it in youtube videos and it's even in the help file for the Nvidia Control Panel. Why the fuck it's not showing up is the great mystery of the world.
 
Hi PC Gaf! Long time reader first time writer.

So here's the thing I have -up until yesterday- been running an Athlon XP system. (AtlonXP 2ghz, 1GB ram, 6800gt, lol) But I came into a Core 2 Duo and 4 gigs of ram, with the addition of a cheap mobo, 1TB HD and a PCI-e 7600gs from a friend now I'm only like 2 generations behind!

My question is: The 7600gs is more of a side step from my old 6800GT performance wise, What GPU could I pick up for a good boost without bottle necking myself somewhere else?
 
Okay, I'm going to go install my 560 Ti and take out my old 260. Is there anything special I need to do in terms of removing old drivers, etc.? Or should I just turn the machine off and take the card out and put the old one in?

Edit: I mean *new* card, but I think you probably figured that.
 
4830/4850/gtx 260 for budget.
GTX 460 768MB/1GB or 6850 for a bit more.

I'm still trying to find someone to buy my GTX 260 for $70 shipped if you are interested.
Make sure your PSU is good enough.

http://i.imgur.com/7glgr.jpg
Angry Grimace said:
Okay, I'm going to go install my 560 Ti and take out my old 260. Is there anything special I need to do in terms of removing old drivers, etc.? Or should I just turn the machine off and take the card out and put the old one in?
Just swap em. I update the drivers anyway.
 
I think i've finally decided to go with a 560ti and put some money aside for a 680 rather than going for the 580. Just a few questions.
Is this a good decision?
Will i be able to max out games such as Skyrim, Witcher 2 and at a strect Battlefield at 1080res?
Which 560ti would you recommend?
 
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I'll probably order tomorrow night. I already have a power supply and extra HDD which I will be using so don't mind that some parts are missing.

What do you think?
 
Cyrix said:
Hi PC Gaf! Long time reader first time writer.

So here's the thing I have -up until yesterday- been running an Athlon XP system. (AtlonXP 2ghz, 1GB ram, 6800gt, lol) But I came into a Core 2 Duo and 4 gigs of ram, with the addition of a cheap mobo, 1TB HD and a PCI-e 7600gs from a friend now I'm only like 2 generations behind!

My question is: The 7600gs is more of a side step from my old 6800GT performance wise, What GPU could I pick up for a good boost without bottle necking myself somewhere else?
I'm thinking a 460 would be up your alley with that rig.
 
I just started university - I'm studying Computer Science. I'm using an original Macbook with an almost-dead battery at the moment, which isn't the best computer for the whole 3 years of a proper CompSci degree. After sorting out my budget, it turns out I have quite a lot of money left over, which I'm planning to spend on a new desktop. I figure I may as well make it decent for gaming during what little free time I'll have (I haven't got my full workload yet). This will be my first time building a PC; if I can't manage, I'm sure I'll be able to find another CompSci who can :P

Budget: In the UK; I'm trying to keep it to about £500, but my budget can stretch up to twice as much.
Main Use: Programming (i.e. compiling), emulation (Wii), some gaming, general work use.
Monitor Resolution: Pretty big, maybe dual-monitor, for programming?
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Xenoblade, Mario Galaxy, Minecraft (with various mods such as GLSL shaders).
When will you build?: Next few months; it's not urgent. I don't mind waiting if there's something amazing coming out soon.
Will you be overclocking?: Sure, why not?

I want to get a machine that will last me through all 3 years of my course, and hopefully even longer. From what I want to do, it seems I should focus on the processor rather than the graphics (i5?). Also, as I don't have a (half-decent) PC already, I won't be reusing any parts (other than maybe a mouse). I'd preferably like to keep it small-ish so I can lug it home during vacations more easily, though I guess dual monitors would be the opposite of that if I go down that route :P
 
Hazaro said:
4830/4850/gtx 260 for budget.
GTX 460 768MB/1GB or 6850 for a bit more.

I'm still trying to find someone to buy my GTX 260 for $70 shipped if you are interested.
Make sure your PSU is good enough.

Thanks for the advice, I wont be able to buy anything till the first of next month probably, but I'll PM sooner if anything changes.

hmm... My mobo doesn't have pci-e 2.0 and I would probably need a new PSU as well, mines 500w and it only has one pci-e 6pin.

Are the ATI's less power hungry?
 
I've had 2x HD 4850s for around 3 years now and after mediocre framerates in Crysis 2 and really shoddy performance in the Battlefield 3 beta I'm thinking it's time for an upgrade.

Over the course of time that I've owned them I realized 4850's in crossfire rarely provided any significant improvement over just one card. Not only that, but several games (like Crysis 2) didn't initially support crossfire with these cards.

My question is, what should I upgrade to?

I don't want to spend much (if any) over $250. Right now I'm mulling over the HD 6950, possibly biting the bullet and spending just a lil more for the 2GB version ($260~). I'm up for some suggestions.

Edit: Also worth noting, some PC specs:
2 x 1680x1050 Monitors
4GB RAM
HD4850 512MB / HD4850 1GB (Crossfire)
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16GHz

I've also looked into the possibility of getting a NVidia 560 Ti. Would there be any reason for me to go for the HD6950 vs the 560 Ti given my current gaming setup?
 
Anyone know how to disable the pagefile on fucking win7? The stupid shit keeps increasing the god damn thing up to 12 gigs EVERY damn restart. Shit, I'd fine with keeping that stupid shit at 3 gigs if anyone knows how.
 
vertopci said:
Anyone know how to disable the pagefile on fucking win7? The stupid shit keeps increasing the god damn thing up to 12 gigs EVERY damn restart. Shit, I'd fine with keeping that stupid shit at 3 gigs if anyone knows how.

system->advanced system settings->performance "settings"->tab "advanced"->virtual memory "change"

default setting is double the memory I think ... I just set it to half the memory :p
 
n0n44m said:
system->advanced system settings->performance "settings"->tab "advanced"->virtual memory "change"

default setting is double the memory I think ... I just set it to half the memory :p

Thats the thing. I've done that but Win7 keeps being a fucking annoyance and resetting it back to 12 gigs.
 
vertopci said:
Thats the thing. I've done that but Win7 keeps being a fucking annoyance and resetting it back to 12 gigs.

no such issues here ... all I know is that it can dynamically alter the setting if you run out of memory and the pagefile size isn't sufficient

have you tried putting it on another disk or something?
 
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