"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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CoolS said:
Hey guys. Finally want to go back into PC gaming after haven't really done anything the last 3 years since I got my notebook which is starting to show its age now sadly. Since I'm going to have some extra money by next month I decided I'm going to build my own desktop.

Looked around this thread and some other sites and started to put together a preliminary system. But first for the questions.

Your Current Specs: Not worth mentioning because I only have a laptop
Budget: 700-800€ for the machine alone, will look for the monitor seperately, Germany
Main Use: basically all my work for my studies, as well as gaming and Wii emulation. If possible, I want to be able to play all modern games right now with high setting and a good framerate
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: I definitely want to play games like Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Sometime in November
Will you be overclocking?: Never thought about it, but yes if it's not dangerous.


So, what I came up with so far is this:

Intel Core i5-2500K, 4x 3.30GHz, boxed
PNY GeForce GTX 570, 1.25GB GDDR5
ASRock P67 Pro3, P67 (B3) (dual PC3-10667U DDR3)
Sharkoon Rebel9 Economy
2xScythe Slip Stream 120x120x25mm, 800rpm
Antec High Current Gamer HCG-520, 520W ATX 2.3
Mushkin Enhanced Silverline Stiletto DIMM Kit 8GB PC3-10667U CL9-9-9-24 (DDR3-1333)
Samsung Spinpoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)
LG Electronics GH22NS50 schwarz, SATA, bulk

With that I am at 741€ at the moment. I really want a SSD as well though and probably a different CPU fan down the road.

What do you guys think about that? Any suggestions to make it cheaper/better etc.?
Looks great to me. Just make sure the 570 can fit along with a CPU heatsink if you decide to drop money on that.
 
Hazaro said:
Looks great to me. Just make sure the 570 can fit along with a CPU heatsink if you decide to drop money on that.

Its a tight fit but you can make it work. Built a mini-ITX build with a 570 and slipstream with about 1 mm between them.
 
False advertisement! It's an Acer not Asus, otherwise I would've bought two of them. Asus is pretty much the only brand I would buy besides Dell and Alienware when it comes to monitors.
 
So I was originally going to get a Radeon HD 6870, but I managed to snag a GTX 560 Ti for £8 less instead.
Anyway, I've ordered all my parts; time to wait until they arrive!

Final final list:
Intel i5 2500k processor - £167
ASUS GTX 560 Ti graphics card - £140
ASUS P8Z68-V motherboard - £128
Antec Neo Eco 520W power supply - £53
Corsair Vengeance 8GB memory - £47
Samsung HD103SJ 1TB hard disk - £40
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus cooler - £22
Asus Xonar DG sound card - £20
LiteOn IHAS124-19 optical drive - £14
Coolermaster Elite 330 case - £29
Samsung B2230H 22" 1080p monitor - £90
Logitech MK120 keyboard/mouse - £12

Total cost (including shipping): a tiny bit over £800 - more than I wanted to spend originally, but I'm pretty happy with it :)
 
Anyone have experience with headphones/headsets? I'm looking to get a decent surround sound (5.1 or 7.1) pair. I looked at the Logitech ones but they all use USB connections. I want to be able to plug the headphones directly into my sound card (X-Fi Titanium!), not through a USB port. I'm thinking of a budget around $100. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
Start up my PC and am greeted with a message at the post screen saying OC settings may have caused issue with start up (It's NEVER caused an issue with anything)... now all my changes to base clock/multiplyer are gone. Any way to go back to the settings I had? REALLY don't have the time or patience to go through and re-do my OC and properly stress test right now...

(Also: Why the fuck did it do this in the first place?)


Clydefrog said:
Anyone have experience with headphones/headsets? I'm looking to get a decent surround sound (5.1 or 7.1) pair. I looked at the Logitech ones but they all use USB connections. I want to be able to plug the headphones directly into my sound card (X-Fi Titanium!), not through a USB port. I'm thinking of a budget around $100. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

For headphones, I'd avoid surround sound ones...

For $100 headphones get Senn HD 555s or Grado SR80s or Alessandro MS-1 headphones. (I have the MS-1, it's good stuff)
 
Clydefrog said:
Anyone have experience with headphones/headsets? I'm looking to get a decent surround sound (5.1 or 7.1) pair. I looked at the Logitech ones but they all use USB connections. I want to be able to plug the headphones directly into my sound card (X-Fi Titanium!), not through a USB port. I'm thinking of a budget around $100. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
There is a thread for that somewhere. It's pretty big.
WEGGLES said:
Start up my PC and am greeted with a message at the post screen saying OC settings may have caused issue with start up (It's NEVER caused an issue with anything)... now all my changes to base clock/multiplyer are gone. Any way to go back to the settings I had? REALLY don't have the time or patience to go through and re-do my OC and properly stress test right now...

(Also: Why the fuck did it do this in the first place?)
Power or battery issue maybe.
You didn't save your OC to a profile? Otherwise tough.
 
Hazaro said:
There is a thread for that somewhere. It's pretty big.

Power or battery issue maybe.
You didn't save your OC to a profile? Otherwise tough.
Maybe I did save it... should have. I'll check next bootup.
 
Placed the order for my mobo and RAM, thanks for your help Hazaro and co! Can't wait to put this together. Arctic MX-4 will be okay with a 2500k/212+ right? Will be my first thermal paste purchase aside from what came with my 212+. NGL I'm pretty excited lol.

A friend's got about $700 and is looking to put together his own system. He would have been able to spend a bit more if not for his camera crapping out (and needing repairs), so he's a bit tight on budget. The only requirements seem to be that he's looking to be able to run BF3 at 1680x1050 at a solid setting, and a CUDA capable graphics card for his software work. I'm assuming he's building from the ground up here.

Alternatively, a friend who is putting his own rig together has offered to sell him his own PC for about $700. It includes:
AMD Phenom X6 1090T
Gigabyte Mobo (unsure of model)
Sapphire 5870 Vapor-X
Corsair HX850 Watt/8GB RAM/Peripherals (no monitor)

Any recommendations? He's going to end up selling the Vapor-X if he decides on that PC and get a 560Ti/570 anyway.

Wichu said:
So I was originally going to get a Radeon HD 6870, but I managed to snag a GTX 560 Ti for £8 less instead.
Anyway, I've ordered all my parts; time to wait until they arrive!

Let us know how it turns out when you're finished putting it together! I'm gonna be using the same mobo/cpu so I'll def. be interested :)
 
I browsed [H] and canucks.
This is a good summary for people. Made an image summery. Not included in the chart is a 8150 system uses 90W more at load and 15W more at idle. Hopefully new mobos will lessen that, but it seem surprising considering all the power saving stuff they mentioned. 1155 power saving is really something though.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...md-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review-20.html

8FNV7.jpg
 
Hazaro said:
I browsed [H] and canucks.
This is a good summary for people. Made an image summery. Not included in the chart is a 8150 system uses 90W more at load and 15W more at idle. Hopefully new mobos will lessen that, but it seem surprising considering all the power saving stuff they mentioned. 1155 power saving is really something though.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...md-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review-20.html

http://i.imgur.com/oATX3.jpg[/IMG[/QUOTE]
You probably should have included more of the conclusion text, as newbies may still not quite understand the chart without more explanation:

[quote]As you can see, the FX-8150 does indeed demonstrate its superiority in all the highly multi-threaded applications, as it clearly should since it's an eight-core chip competing against a four-core one. However, it gets trampled in more lightly threaded programs, as well as most games. The exception to this is in the very latest games where the Zambezi chip still loses, but by an insignificant amount. Based on our talks with AMD, they firmly assert that it is in these newer pieces of software that Zambezi's supposedly forward-looking architecture can really shine. When compared with the $315 Core i7-2600K, the FX-8150 comes out looking even worse, since the four-core/eight-thread HyperThreading-enabled Intel chip can more than match the Zambezi's multi-threading performance in most applications.

Overall then, while Zambezi might have been a very capable competitor to Intel's Bloomfield LGA1366 and Lynnfield LGA1156 series, its allure whithers when placed head-to-head against modern-day Sandy Bridge processors.[/quote]
 
so i build my computer and its amazing!!! omg wtf have i been missing for so long! OMG!

anyways another question is coming your way, i know this has been asked before but i cannot find it in this thread but how hot can my gtx580 be before it shuts down?...when i was playing battlefield 3 beta it would hit like around 80 is that too much? same question goes for my cpu it stays around 35 but im not sure if thats good or not
 
I'm looking at getting a gtx 560 and was wondering which brand is the "best". I've heard a lot of good things about the Twin Frozr thing, and I was looking at some 560's today at Best buy - seemed to be comparable to newegg prices so I just could snag one tomorrow.
 
Prodigal said:
I'm looking at getting a gtx 560 and was wondering which brand is the "best". I've heard a lot of good things about the Twin Frozr thing, and I was looking at some 560's today at Best buy - seemed to be comparable to newegg prices so I just could snag one tomorrow.

Make totally sure you get the 560 Ti and not the "regular" 560; there is a significant difference and the Best Buy price similarity you speak of may be a mistake on your part not noticing the difference. Just a heads up!
 
Hazaro said:
Don't buy it.

Gotcha.

I gotta say I'm sort of thankful. ATI/AMD has just been trouble for me and I was glad about switching to Intel/nVidia for the computer I'm building now. When I saw the BD thread I sort of held my breath but it looks like I have nothing to worry about. Still gonna get an i5-2500k and GTX 460.

One thing I'm starting to appreciate about Sandy Bridge is that from reviews, it seems like it doesn't need any kind of additional cooling even if you overclock it quite a bit. Seems quite different for the BD.
 
Posted this in the BD thread, but it really belongs here...

Alright pick me out a motherboard for my 2600K.

It needs to have a PCI slot (for my wireless card), and 2 6gbps SATA ports (with RAID 0).
Don't give a shit about quicksync so I don't need the Z68 (though it seems a lot of the P67 boards don't have a PCI slot).

Would also enjoy a board that has a USB 3.0 header, or even a port on the board itself (I've seen a few USB 2.0 ports on boards). As you probably know, the case I have (600T) has a USB front panel port, but the damned lead for it isn't a 20-pin motherboard connector, it's just a standard USB connetcor they expect you to route through the back of the case and plug into the I/O backplate.

Good overclocking capabilities would be appreciated muchly.

Currently comparing a handful of them, (most of them being Z68s) such as...

ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131753
ASUS SABERTOOTH P67 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131702
MSI Z68A-GD80 (G3) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130610
GIGABYTE GA-Z68XP-UD3-iSSD http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128505
MSI Z68A-GD80 (B3) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813130597
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813157263

The Maximus IV is out of the question since it's eATX (ATX-XL or whatever) and won't fit.


As for coolers, I'm thinking of going with stock for now and grab something else later. Unless someone can convince me otherwise. I don't need to do any extreme overclocking, but I do want a respectable bump from stock.
 
Prodigal said:
Any particular brand I should get though? I saw some EVGA and PNY ones I think, I need to check if they're ti though.

EVGA generally has the best warranty.
PNY is a bit more on the budget side but is solid from my understanding.
MSI has the Twin Frozr II and III cards which really do run cooler than the standard 560 Ti cards.

There are also some with 2 GB as opposed to the usual 1 GB, so if you game at more than 1080p, you might want to consider the 2 GB editions. I don't think you need to worry about avoiding or picking a specific brand, but definitely do a bit of research to see what's best for you / your budget.
 
It's between the ASUS P8P67 DELUXE and the ASUS P8Z68 Deluxe...

I don't plan on ever doing crossfire/sli, or using the onboard gpu or quickpath video encoding (I use x264 and anal about any quality loss), and since I got 2x 256 GB SSDs, I don't need smart response.

It looks like the Z68 board is just $30 more the chipset, which I don't care about.

Unless the P67 is a bad overclocker or something, I think I'll go with the P67.
 
Andrex said:
One thing I'm starting to appreciate about Sandy Bridge is that from reviews, it seems like it doesn't need any kind of additional cooling even if you overclock it quite a bit. Seems quite different for the BD.

That wasn't my experience. I ended up buying an aftermarket HSF because the stock wasn't good enough at around 4.2-4.4GHz. Best to do it early on so that you don't have to pull out the mobo later to put on the backplate and such.

Or just don't overclock that much, I guess.
 
Andrex said:
One thing I'm starting to appreciate about Sandy Bridge is that from reviews, it seems like it doesn't need any kind of additional cooling even if you overclock it quite a bit. Seems quite different for the BD.

The stock cooler works very well, but it seems to be universally agreed that upping the cooling just a bit is worth it, especially if you go the budget route (Coolermaster Hyper 212+, etc)
 
Open Source said:
That wasn't my experience. I ended up buying an aftermarket HSF because the stock wasn't good enough at around 4.2-4.4GHz. Best to do it early on so that you don't have to pull out the mobo later to put on the backplate and such.

Or just don't overclock that much, I guess.

I probably won't overclock it much unless performance in Dolphin is terrible.

Soka said:
The stock cooler works very well, but it seems to be universally agreed that upping the cooling just a bit is worth it, especially if you go the budget route (Coolermaster Hyper 212+, etc)

Good to know.
 
DKnight said:
150€, yes I would.
Easiest is to nab one of those GPUs in your budget with the biggest fan and set a fan profile in MSI Afterburner.

Otherwise:
Depending on how much you would like to spend:
6850 or 6870 +

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/22/accelero-twin-turbo-pro.html
or
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/24/accelero-s1-rev.-2.html

with:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/accessories/114/vr001.html?c=2309

Barring those options, a 1GB GTX 460 (Based on pricing, usually nVidia is more outside US).

Edit:
MSI 6850 + Dues Ex: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-115-MS
HIS 6870 + Dues Ex + Dirt3 : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-040-HS
 
Hazaro said:
Easiest is to nab one of those GPUs in your budget with the biggest fan and set a fan profile in MSI Afterburner.

Otherwise:
Depending on how much you would like to spend:
6850 or 6870 +

http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/22/accelero-twin-turbo-pro.html
or
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/vga/24/accelero-s1-rev.-2.html

with:
http://www.arctic.ac/en/p/cooling/accessories/114/vr001.html?c=2309

Barring those options, a 1GB GTX 460 (Based on pricing, usually nVidia is more outside US).

Edit:
MSI 6850 + Dues Ex: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-115-MS
HIS 6870 + Dues Ex + Dirt3 : http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-040-HS
Thanks! the Accelero looks great. I'd prefer a Nvidia, but it seems to be hard to find the GTX460 around here, all I see are GXT560 a 550. Seems like they're basically the same, right?
 
Sound card help!

Ok going to pick up a new sound card today/tomorrow and I'm down to two choices.
- Creative Titanium HD
- Asus Xonar Essence ST

Both are $100.

Thoughts? (yes they'll be paired with shitty logitech 2.1s for now and AD700s)
 
Wichu said:
So I was originally going to get a Radeon HD 6870, but I managed to snag a GTX 560 Ti for £8 less instead.
Anyway, I've ordered all my parts; time to wait until they arrive!

Final final list:
Intel i5 2500k processor - £167
ASUS GTX 560 Ti graphics card - £140
ASUS P8Z68-V motherboard - £128
Antec Neo Eco 520W power supply - £53
Corsair Vengeance 8GB memory - £47
Samsung HD103SJ 1TB hard disk - £40
Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus cooler - £22
Asus Xonar DG sound card - £20
LiteOn IHAS124-19 optical drive - £14
Coolermaster Elite 330 case - £29
Samsung B2230H 22" 1080p monitor - £90
Logitech MK120 keyboard/mouse - £12

Total cost (including shipping): a tiny bit over £800 - more than I wanted to spend originally, but I'm pretty happy with it :)
Where did you get your 560ti from at that price?
 
Soka said:
EVGA generally has the best warranty.
PNY is a bit more on the budget side but is solid from my understanding.
MSI has the Twin Frozr II and III cards which really do run cooler than the standard 560 Ti cards.

There are also some with 2 GB as opposed to the usual 1 GB, so if you game at more than 1080p, you might want to consider the 2 GB editions. I don't think you need to worry about avoiding or picking a specific brand, but definitely do a bit of research to see what's best for you / your budget.

Yeah I game at 1920x1200 so maybe I should get a 2gb one. Do you think one of those would be okay with my 500w PSU? I have an 2500k and 8 gigs of ram. My power supply is one of those older blue FSP group psu's.
 
so i want to buy a new PC, need some help :)

After these AMD benchmarks i want to use intel. One important point is silence, but not super silence ^^

Here are my list:

Case: FRACTAL DESIGN DEFINE R3 Black Pearl

GPU: ASUS EAH6950 DCII /2DI4S/2GD5, AMD Radeon HD 6950, 2GB, PCI- Express
Or u know another silent 560ti/6950? Because the DCII is no longer in stock :/

Hard Disk: Samsung SpinPoint F3 1000GB, SATA II (HD103SJ)

Power Supply: be quiet! Pure Power 530 Watt / BQT L7
Enough?

Processor: i5 2400

Motherboard: no idea :)

Memory: 8GB-Kit Corsair XMS3 PC3-12800U CL9

Optical drive: LG GH24NS

Are there any suggestions for improvement?
edit: it´s only for gaming
 
Hazaro said:
I browsed [H] and canucks.
This is a good summary for people. Made an image summery. Not included in the chart is a 8150 system uses 90W more at load and 15W more at idle. Hopefully new mobos will lessen that, but it seem surprising considering all the power saving stuff they mentioned. 1155 power saving is really something though.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...md-bulldozer-fx-8150-processor-review-20.html

8FNV7.jpg

I hate to say it but this makes me happy. Glad I didn't wait now. I've been enjoying my 2500k for months now and have no regrets.

Now bring on the next gen Nvidia cards and I'll be even happier.
 
Prodigal said:
Yeah I game at 1920x1200 so maybe I should get a 2gb one. Do you think one of those would be okay with my 500w PSU? I have an 2500k and 8 gigs of ram. My power supply is one of those older blue FSP group psu's.

I'm not really as experienced with PSUs. A 500w can be totally fine with a 560 Ti, but that depends largely on the PSU and I'm unfamiliar with the one you're talking about.
 
How much faster would a X3 455 + Radeon HD 5670 be than Llano A6 A3500 be?

I'm talking for games like Rage, Fallout 3 and Tropico 4 :P
 
Anyone have anything good to say about the ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265

I'm almost sold on it. I need three PCI-E slots and a shitload of SATA ports and this has both. There weren't many alternatives, and it's actually cheaper than the other ASRock board that DOESN'T have a couple of PCI-E 3.0 slots.

But yeah, I usually run a primary, hueg video card, I have a Blackmagic Intensity Pro PCI-E capture card, and a second, small video card to run a third monitor.

Then I have 3 (er, maybe 4?) internal hard drives and a two DVD drives (1 or 2 of which are IDE :( Gonna need some converters or something--nothing has IDE anymore).
 
I don't know much about SB motherboards. Looking at the 2500k combos from Microcenter right now, any reason to get the Asus over the Gigabyte board? Looking at the two more expensive ones, not the two cheap ones.

Although if that LX board isn't gimped and won't limit my OCing like LE boards I'd consider that as well. No SLI/CF for me, and I don't need dozens of SATA ports or anything either.
 
Mit- said:
Anyone have anything good to say about the ASRock P67 Extreme4 Gen3?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813157265

I'm almost sold on it. I need three PCI-E slots and a shitload of SATA ports and this has both. There weren't many alternatives, and it's actually cheaper than the other ASRock board that DOESN'T have a couple of PCI-E 3.0 slots.

But yeah, I usually run a primary, hueg video card, I have a Blackmagic Intensity Pro PCI-E capture card, and a second, small video card to run a third monitor.

Then I have 3 (er, maybe 4?) internal hard drives and a two DVD drives (1 or 2 of which are IDE :( Gonna need some converters or something--nothing has IDE anymore).

I got it, it hasn't given any problems at all....but i dont know anything really about computers
 
chaosblade said:
I don't know much about SB motherboards. Looking at the 2500k combos from Microcenter right now, any reason to get the Asus over the Gigabyte board? Looking at the two more expensive ones, not the two cheap ones.

Although if that LX board isn't gimped and won't limit my OCing like LE boards I'd consider that as well. No SLI/CF for me, and I don't need dozens of SATA ports or anything either.

Few reasons I would to go for ASUS over GIGABYTE, I have had terrible success with GIGABYTE with two motherboards being DOA and one having OC issues (1 X58 and 2 P55) and have never had an issue with ASUS boards before. A bigger reason is ASUS's EFI is by far the best interface and GIGABYTE stills uses their BIOS interface which wasn't particularly good.

For LX vs PRO

Here are the differences between the two:

1) The P8Z68-V PRO supports Nvidia SLI in addition to AMD CrossFire. The P8Z68-V LX supports only CrossFire.

2) The P8Z68-V PRO has an additional PCI-e x16 slot that runs in x8 mode when the primary x16 slot is in use. The P8Z68-V LX has only the single PCI-e x16 slot. Both boards have a PCI-e x16-length slot that runs at up to x4 mode.

3) The P8Z68-V PRO has an onboard Intel LAN versus the P8Z68-V LE's onboard Realtek LAN.

4) The P8Z68-V PRO has two ASMedia USB 3.0 controllers to allow the use of front-panel USB 3.0 ports (if the case that you're using has them). The LX has only one USB 3.0 controller - and you must reach into the rear of the PC in order to use the two USB 3.0 ports.

5) The PRO has an eSATA port that's connected to an onboard Jmicron eSATA controller. Plus, it has an additional Marvell SATA 6.0 Gbps controller with two additional SATA 6.0 Gbps ports. And it has an onboard IEEE 1394a (Firewire 400) controller with one IEEE 1394 port plus one header. The LX has none of those.

6) The onboard audio on the PRO is a Realtek ALC892, while the onboard audio on the LX is the lesser-specced ALC887. In fact, the onboard audio is the only significant difference between the P8Z68-V LX and the P8Z68-V LE (the latter of which has the more mainstream ALC892 audio chip).

At any rate, most people don't need the P8Z68-V PRO when they can get most of the PRO's features on the plain P8Z68-V (including SLI support and onboard Intel LAN) for $20 less. The only major difference between the plain P8Z68V and the P8Z68-V PRO is that the plain P8Z68-V lacks the Marvell SATA 6.0 Gbps controller and the IEEE 1394a controller.
 
scogoth said:
Few reasons I would to go for ASUS over GIGABYTE, I have had terrible success with GIGABYTE with two motherboards being DOA and one having OC issues (1 X58 and 2 P55) and have never had an issue with ASUS boards before. A bigger reason is ASUS's EFI is by far the best interface and GIGABYTE stills uses their BIOS interface which wasn't particularly good.

For LX vs PRO

Gigabyte hates me, every single mobo I have bought has been a piece of shit.
 
scogoth said:
Few reasons I would to go for ASUS over GIGABYTE, I have had terrible success with GIGABYTE with two motherboards being DOA and one having OC issues (1 X58 and 2 P55) and have never had an issue with ASUS boards before. A bigger reason is ASUS's EFI is by far the best interface and GIGABYTE stills uses their BIOS interface which wasn't particularly good.

For LX vs PRO
I've used a couple Gigabyte boards without problems, my current build is using one actually.

And I saw that post about the LX/Pro while searching, but it didn't really help. My biggest concern is overclocking being gimped, because I know using the LE boards can hinder it.

Edit: Looks like it's because the LE is uses a 4+2 phase. Need to see what the LX uses. Probably the same or 6+2.
Editedit: Yep, it's 4+2, don't think I'll bother with it then.
 
chaosblade said:
I've used a couple Gigabyte boards without problems, my current build is using one actually.

And I saw that post about the LX/Pro while searching, but it didn't really help. My biggest concern is overclocking being gimped, because I know using the LE boards can hinder it.

Edit: Looks like it's because the LE is uses a 4+2 phase. Need to see what the LX uses. Probably the same or 6+2.
Editedit: Yep, it's 4+2, don't think I'll bother with it then.

If you're going for really high OCing, you probably want something better, but for the mainstream OC of 4.4 or 4.5GHz, the LE works fine. My 2500K in the P8Z68-V LE is running at 4.5 at around 1.33V.
 
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