"I need a New PC!" 2011 Thread of reading the OP. Seriously. [Part 2]

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teeny said:
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: £1500, UK
Main Use: Heavy Gaming, Emulation (Wii), Photo Editing, XNA Programming, General Use.
Monitor Resolution: Would like to play at 1080p
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Skyrim, Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Early next year.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

Found this build and like the look of it, though I am a newbie at all of this.

Sapphire 11180-00-40R HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card
Noctua NF-P14 FLX - Processor fan - 140 mm
Thermalright Venomous X RT - Processor cooler
ASUS 1155 P8Z68-V PRO S/L
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch Solid State Drive 240GB
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green

Amazon has all this at 1,369.45, so if there is anything I could upgrade or wait for, I would be happy to.

What does GAF think?

Nice bundle except for the graphics card and HDD. Caviar Green is a slow ass drive
 
teeny said:
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: £1500, UK
Main Use: Heavy Gaming, Emulation (Wii), Photo Editing, XNA Programming, General Use.
Monitor Resolution: Would like to play at 1080p
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Skyrim, Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Early next year.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

Found this build and like the look of it, though I am a newbie at all of this.

Sapphire 11180-00-40R HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card
Noctua NF-P14 FLX - Processor fan - 140 mm
Thermalright Venomous X RT - Processor cooler
ASUS 1155 P8Z68-V PRO S/L
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch Solid State Drive 240GB
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green

Amazon has all this at 1,369.45, so if there is anything I could upgrade or wait for, I would be happy to.

What does GAF think?
Not a pro myself, but for roughly $2000 a HD 6850 build seems waaayyy overpriced
 
Saren is Bad said:
Nice bundle except for the graphics card and HDD. Caviar Green is a slow ass drive

Hmm, what card would you recommend instead? And will the slow HDD be a problem with a SSD as well?
 
teeny said:
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: £1500, UK
Main Use: Heavy Gaming, Emulation (Wii), Photo Editing, XNA Programming, General Use.
Monitor Resolution: Would like to play at 1080p
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Skyrim, Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Early next year.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

Found this build and like the look of it, though I am a newbie at all of this.

Sapphire 11180-00-40R HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card
Noctua NF-P14 FLX - Processor fan - 140 mm
Thermalright Venomous X RT - Processor cooler
ASUS 1155 P8Z68-V PRO S/L
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch Solid State Drive 240GB
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green

Amazon has all this at 1,369.45, so if there is anything I could upgrade or wait for, I would be happy to.

What does GAF think?

For BF3 you'll want at least a GTX560 Ti or 6950(or 570/6970 if you can afford it) and with the vertex 3 the WD Cavier Green is just fine. Make sure you install windows on the SSD and use the HDD for media storage.

Otherwise looks like a nice build, with a higher end GPU you'll be demolishing games. Also make sure to check out BF3 PC Community Thread =)
 
I'd rather spend a little extra and get the Caviar Blue.

Green has these so many little quirks that you should be aware of that it's not worth it imho.
 
scogoth said:
For BF3 you'll want at least a GTX560 Ti or 6950(or 570/6970 if you can afford it) and with the vertex 3 the WD Cavier Green is just fine. Make sure you install windows on the SSD and use the HDD for media storage.

Otherwise looks like a nice build, with a higher end GPU you'll be demolishing games. Also make sure to check out BF3 PC Community Thread =)

Thanks - could you link me to some of those cards? Im not very familiar with the naming, and am unsure which products you mean.

Is this the 6970?

If so, that keeps me well within budget.

Wolf Akela said:
I'd rather spend a little extra and get the Caviar Blue.

Green has these so many little quirks that you should be aware of that it's not worth it imho.

Okay, great, thanks for the advice.
 
Azzurri said:
need some new ram. I'm using the Asus p67Pro rev 2 Mobo. What would you guys suggest?
Just about any 1.5v DDR3 RAM from a reputable manufacturer (G.Skill, Corsair, etc) will do. Check the RAM listed in the builds in the OP.
 
teeny said:
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: £1500, UK
Main Use: Heavy Gaming, Emulation (Wii), Photo Editing, XNA Programming, General Use.
Monitor Resolution: Would like to play at 1080p
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Skyrim, Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Early next year.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

Found this build and like the look of it, though I am a newbie at all of this.

Sapphire 11180-00-40R HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card
Noctua NF-P14 FLX - Processor fan - 140 mm
Thermalright Venomous X RT - Processor cooler
ASUS 1155 P8Z68-V PRO S/L
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch Solid State Drive 240GB
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green

Amazon has all this at 1,369.45, so if there is anything I could upgrade or wait for, I would be happy to.

What does GAF think?
Intel 320/510 SSD instead of Vertex since you said you were new Vertex 3's aren't the most stable.
Samsung F4 2TB for HDD. Don't really like the WD Blues and the Greens have a head parking defect.
As was said, get a 560Ti/6950/GTX 570/6970. I didn't see any custom coolers for the 6970 sold by Amazon, so you might want to get a card with a centered fan or two fans as a GTX 570 or a 6950. Depends on noise preference.
 
Hazaro said:
Intel 320/510 SSD instead of Vertex since you said you were new Vertex 3's aren't the most stable.
Samsung F4 2TB for HDD. Don't really like the WD Blues and the Greens have a head parking defect.
As was said, get a 560Ti/6950/GTX 570/6970. I didn't see any custom coolers for the 6970 sold by Amazon, so you might want to get a card with a centered fan or two fans as a GTX 570 or a 6950. Depends on noise preference.

Thanks!

Forgive my ignorance, but... custom coolers?
 
Hazaro said:
Intel 320/510 SSD instead of Vertex since you said you were new Vertex 3's aren't the most stable.
Samsung F4 2TB for HDD. Don't really like the WD Blues and the Greens have a head parking defect.
As was said, get a 560Ti/6950/GTX 570/6970. I didn't see any custom coolers for the 6970 sold by Amazon, so you might want to get a card with a centered fan or two fans as a GTX 570 or a 6950. Depends on noise preference.
Wasn't there a firmware update recently to address the stability issues?
 
XiaNaphryz said:
Wasn't there a firmware update recently to address the stability issues?
Yes, but I haven't read up on it and flashing SSD firmware for a new user and maybe problems later I don't like.
Performance differences aren't that much for SSD vs SSD I still feel.

I should probably check out some SSD comparisons reviews of stuff like the ForceGT, hopefully more reviews are up on the drive by now. It's been out a while, but I haven't seen too many.
 
Danne-Danger said:
I had the Dell UltraSharp 23'' U2311H recommended to me in this thread before and I couldn't be happier with it now that I have one, and this is coming from a CRT purist!

It requires very little calibration out of the box and is pretty swell all around.

I'll chime in on this, one of the best monitors I've owned.
 
SO I re installed windows on my PC. But I can't get the second HD to show? I installed it on my Solid State drive, and have a 1tb as my other. How do I get it to show my 1tb drive under computer?
 
I want to grab a dedicated PhysX card to pair with my 5850 and Im coming up with a few questions. Probably better off posting in here rather than the Batman thread:

Heres the card I want to get for PhysX
GT 240

-Will my 650W PSU be enough to handle this + everything else. Using a PSU calculator, it looks like Ill be fine but I just want to ask and make sure.

-My mobo has 2 PCIE 2.0x16 slots.
One of these runs at x16 but the other one runs at x8.
Will plugging a PhysX card into the one running at x8 cause any problems for PhysX or do anything to negatively impact the main card (5850) in the slot running at x16?

-Any other problems/issues I should watch out for?

My rig, just in case:

GA-P55-UD4P mobo
ATI Radeon HD 5850 GPU
Intel i5 750 OCed to 3.4 CPU
8GBs DDR3 1333 RAM
 
teeny said:
Basic Desktop Questions:
Budget: £1500, UK
Main Use: Heavy Gaming, Emulation (Wii), Photo Editing, XNA Programming, General Use.
Monitor Resolution: Would like to play at 1080p
List SPECIFIC games that you MUST be able to play: Skyrim, Battlefield 3
When will you build?: Early next year.
Will you be overclocking?: Yes

Found this build and like the look of it, though I am a newbie at all of this.

Sapphire 11180-00-40R HD 6850 1GB GDDR5 PCIE Graphics Card
Noctua NF-P14 FLX - Processor fan - 140 mm
Thermalright Venomous X RT - Processor cooler
ASUS 1155 P8Z68-V PRO S/L
Corsair CMZ16GX3M4A1600C9B 16GB (4x4GB) 1600MHz CL9 DDR3 Vengeance
Intel Sandybridge i7-2600K Unlocked Core i7 Quad-Core Processor (3.40GHz, 8MB Cache, Socket 1155)
Corsair Graphite Series 600T Mid-Tower Gaming Case
Corsair CMPSU-850AXUK Professional Series Gold 850W Power Supply
OCZ Vertex 3 Series SATA III 2.5-inch Solid State Drive 240GB
Western Digital 2TB SATA 6Gbps Power Saving Internal Hard Drive OEM - Caviar Green

Amazon has all this at 1,369.45, so if there is anything I could upgrade or wait for, I would be happy to.

What does GAF think?

You need a GTX 580 if you are spending that much. Get an 2500k instead and spend the rest on a good GPU
 
Have this odd issue where my menu transparencies are artifacting. When I turn transparencies off it's fine though. I first thought it was GPU related but I tested numerous games and had zero problems in them. Any ideas?


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Asking again as I think the question was lost in a different conversation thread...

Anyone have any recommendations for HDD enclosures? I've been migrating data over from my older PC HDDs with the hot-swap drive bay in the HAF X, but I have 1 older PATA drive I need to get stuff off of. So I'd need a HDD enclosure that could handle both SATA and IDE connections, and ideally supports eSATA for faster transfers.
 
Salaadin said:
I want to grab a dedicated PhysX card to pair with my 5850 and Im coming up with a few questions. Probably better off posting in here rather than the Batman thread:

Heres the card I want to get for PhysX
GT 240

-Will my 650W PSU be enough to handle this + everything else. Using a PSU calculator, it looks like Ill be fine but I just want to ask and make sure.

-My mobo has 2 PCIE 2.0x16 slots.
One of these runs at x16 but the other one runs at x8.
Will plugging a PhysX card into the one running at x8 cause any problems for PhysX or do anything to negatively impact the main card (5850) in the slot running at x16?

-Any other problems/issues I should watch out for?

My rig, just in case:

GA-P55-UD4P mobo
ATI Radeon HD 5850 GPU
Intel i5 750 OCed to 3.4 CPU
8GBs DDR3 1333 RAM
I wouldn't bother. You want at least a 9800 GT. The GT 240 is just a rebadge 9600 GT. Also, you need to use very old hacked drivers which may not be supported by newer games. If you want Physx, just get a powerful Nvidia.
 
knitoe said:
I wouldn't bother. You want at least a 9800 GT. The GT 240 is just a rebadge 9600 GT. Also, you need to use very old hacked drivers which may not be supported by newer games. If you want Physx, just get a powerful Nvidia.

The GT 240 is the best PhysX card for the money. No sense in paying 2-3x more for a 9800GT, when a GT 240 performs as well (for most games).

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Most of the time you'll be limited by your primary GPU anyways, as evidenced above.

And really, the 9800GT is around 20% faster than the GTS 240. Not really worth the added cost and power consumption.
 
I'm confused about using a PhysX card.

I read that I don't need a SLI motherboard... just something with two PCI-e slots? I can't see how this:
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Can fit into that tiny PCI-e slot to the left:
H61M-VS%28m%29.jpg


It looks like 16x size... but that makes it sound like I do need a SLI motherboard.

I've got a Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme right now so I don't know if it's worth the driver trouble either.
 
Wolf Akela said:
I'm confused about using a PhysX card.

I read that I don't need a SLI motherboard... just something with two PCI-e slots? I can't see how this:


Can fit into that tiny PCI-e slot to the left:


It looks like 16x size... but that makes it sound like I do need a SLI motherboard.

I've got a Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme right now so I don't know if it's worth the driver trouble either.

You need 2 16x slots you have one 16x slot and one 1x slot.
 
Wolf Akela said:
I'm confused about using a PhysX card.

I read that I don't need a SLI motherboard... just something with two PCI-e slots? I can't see how this:
http://www.prlog.org/10159467-palit-geforce-9600gt-sonic-1gb-gddr3-pci-20-xne-960tsx0202-pm8294.jpg[/img

Can fit into that tiny PCI-e slot to the left:
[img]http://www.asrock.com/mb/photo/H61M-VS%28m%29.jpg[/img

It looks like 16x size... but that makes it sound like I do need a SLI motherboard.

I've got a Sapphire HD5850 Xtreme right now so I don't know if it's worth the driver trouble either.[/QUOTE]
You don't buy a dedicated PhysX card anymore these days, you simply buy another GeForce card and use it as a dedicated PhysX card. Just get one that's not PCI but one that's PCI-E. I don't think it'll work on that particular mobo.
 
Just put my new CPU, mb, hd, and ram in my case. Including Windows 7 install it took 45 minutes. I had no idea the OS would install that fast.
 
Picked up my mobo, ram, and thermal paste today :). Will swap them into my existing system as soon as I get some time this weekend! Thanks for the advice :]

Not pictured is my 2500k -
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From EVGA's first LGA 2011 teaser image to this, their dual socket, SR-2 follow up for Sandy Bridge-E.

SXY4o.jpg


Digital power regs, 8 DIMMs on socket 1, 4 DIMMs on socket 2, same HPTX form factor. Shame that Intel's X79 desktop chipset seems to have fallen short of its initial promise. Still, people have already been playing with 8c/16t + 8c/16t for months now on simpler platforms, should be interesting to see what comes from a board with more room for tweaking.
 
·feist· said:
From EVGA's first LGA 2011 teaser image to this, their dual socket, SR-2 follow up for Sandy Bridge-E.



Digital power regs, 8 DIMMs on socket 1, 4 DIMMs on socket 2, same HPTX form factor. Shame that Intel's X79 desktop chipset seems to have fallen short of its initial promise. Still, people have already been playing with 8c/16t + 8c/16t for months now on simpler platforms, should be interesting to see what comes from a board with more room for tweaking.

Well that solves it for me right there, I have the board for my next build.
 
Looking for some advice, or an answer of sorts.

I mentioned a few pages ago how my monitor defaulting to 59hz was annoying, and was told this was a Windows 7 feature, as many monitors actually run at 59.94hz. Normally Windows would round up and state 60hz, but now it rounds down to show the 'real' broadcast standard or whatever.

Okay, fair enough. So explain to me this then. When I select any other non-native resolution for my monitor, eg 1680x1050, and select 60hz, it all goes through fine and dandy. The control panel will state the refresh rate is set to 60hz, not 59hz.

Another weird note is that if I go into the Customise menu and uncheck "Enable resolutions not exposed by the display", the 1920x1080 59hz disappears from the list, instead showing 1920x1080 60hz. However, selecting and applying this resolution/refresh rate automatically rechecks that box in customise, and then sets it back to 59hz. Also, my (native) resolution appears under the menu "PC", meanwhile whenever I select my resolution it appears under a new menu called "HD, SD".

What gives?
 
So all my pieces for my new computer come in. I finally start building, things going well. Then I'm about to finish up, just have to install my optical drive.

Oops, forgot to order it :( :( :(

Now I have to wait until next week, which is annoying because I wanted it all ready to go for BF3!
 
commish said:
So all my pieces for my new computer come in. I finally start building, things going well. Then I'm about to finish up, just have to install my optical drive.

Oops, forgot to order it :( :( :(

Now I have to wait until next week, which is annoying because I wanted it all ready to go for BF3!
Why not install windows via flash drive and get BF3 digitally? Just curious.
 
Cptkrush said:
Why not install windows via flash drive and get BF3 digitally? Just curious.

I am getting BF3 digitally, and I'd install windows via a drive if I had it.
 
·feist· said:
From EVGA's first LGA 2011 teaser image to this, their dual socket, SR-2 follow up for Sandy Bridge-E.

SXY4o.jpg


Digital power regs, 8 DIMMs on socket 1, 4 DIMMs on socket 2, same HPTX form factor. Shame that Intel's X79 desktop chipset seems to have fallen short of its initial promise. Still, people have already been playing with 8c/16t + 8c/16t for months now on simpler platforms, should be interesting to see what comes from a board with more room for tweaking.
WHAT. How feasible is this for the average gamer to build and use? Do you need to use some special version of OS'es? Is this a server product?
 
Veal said:
WHAT. How feasible is this for the average gamer to build and use? Do you need to use some special version of OS'es? Is this a server product?
It's a server product built for enthusiast use. I'm not sure if it requires special OS consideration, but there's one thing you can be sure about: it's very expensive.
 
Veal said:
WHAT. How feasible is this for the average gamer to build and use? Do you need to use some special version of OS'es? Is this a server product?

not interesting to the average gamer --> it'll cost somewhere north of $600 and needs the more expensive Xeon CPUs, hardly any games would use the extra cpu power and those that do probably already run 100fps on a single Sandy Bridge(-E) CPU

it's not a server product and it runs any OS, but for example only Windows 7 Ultimate can handle more than 12 threads or something AFAIK (and even then some software can't)

I still kinda want one ... I just promised myself one if I graduate and find a job within a year :p
 
Hello sirs! It's been a hwile.

I'm not dead! (but sadly my father did pass). Fell under a rock for the last 4 months and had a hard time coming back out.

Great to see people's new setups and builds, hope everyone's been doing great!
 
n0n44m said:
it's not a server product and it runs any OS, but for example only Windows 7 Ultimate can handle more than 12 threads or something AFAIK (and even then some software can't)

For Windows, it's a licensing restriction on number of physical processors. Home Premium and lower are restricted to 1 physical CPU, while Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate supports 2. Number of cores supported are the same for all versions - up to 32 for 32-bit, up to 256 for 64-bit.
 
gokieks said:
For Windows, it's a licensing restriction on number of physical processors. Home Premium and lower are restricted to 1 physical CPU, while Professional, Enterprise, and Ultimate supports 2. Number of cores supported are the same for all versions - up to 32 for 32-bit, up to 256 for 64-bit.

ok that was probably the issue then

but I remember a guy doing a youtube vid about his 2*6 core (24 thread) SR-2 setup and he couldn't even run FRAPS with hyperthreading enabled because FRAPS wouldn't start with more than 12 threads :p

1st world problems hehe
 
Um, the NH-D14 is supposed to include NT-H1 thermal compound, right? Is it hidden in the box somewhere? Because mine doesn't seem to have included it...
 
chaosblade said:
Um, the NH-D14 is supposed to include NT-H1 thermal compound, right? Is it hidden in the box somewhere? Because mine doesn't seem to have included it...

Mine came with some, was in a bag with the brackets.
 
Looks like mine didn't then, wasn't in the Intel bag and I don't see it in the AMD one.

Pretty sucky situation to be mid-build and realize this.
 
Have you checked everywhere else in the packaging? I know a friend of mine found his just sliding around the little box with the bag.
 
Checked all the parts of the packaging, even opened up those outer box things that were around the cooler box. No dice. Guess I'll order some, will probably take forever for Noctua to get some to me assuming they would send it.
 
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