DietRob
i've been begging for over 5 years.
My current build has lasted me about 4 years or so. I try to build a new one every 4 to 5 years. The 7950 just makes more sense to me. I don't know what I'm paying extra for with Nvidia.
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My current build has lasted me about 4 years or so. I try to build a new one every 4 to 5 years. The 7950 just makes more sense to me. I don't know what I'm paying extra for with Nvidia.
LiquidMetal14
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One last question, pending I use the sticks in the right way, they will run in quad channel correct? I see the diagrams and they have the 2 colored slots on each side so I'm assuming that's where each dimm would go.
I see you already answered my question on the quad thing so that leaves the dimm placement.
Oh and I got my Corsair 500R today. Really nice case. I can't wait to fill it with all the goodness.
I was in the same situition just before Christmas. I was going to go Nvidia this time around just because I did AMD last time but I simply couldn't justify the price difference for similar performance.
It's actually a little behind the 660Ti still. It'll get to a point where the frame latency issue won't bog down the card as much (hopefully) now that AMD knows how to test their own hardware.
NVIDIA gets you their proprietary stuff like PhysX and whatnot. It's the memory bandwidth and lack of VRAM that makes me leery of it in the long term.
It'll be in the motherboard manual.
I know this is a debated line. I'm not trying to get in a chart war but it does outperform the 660ti in most games in frame rate and stands toe to toe with the 670. I know that techreport argument about frame latency and I'm not saying it's incorrect but you are also need to consider things like the processor architecture and the amount of Vram. Overall I think it is fair to say the 7950 is the better card and is likely to widen the gap with upcoming driver improvements.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=647
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/550?vs=598
Right here's the craic, actually going to get a budget rig sorted now that my 7770 arrived that I won. This is what I roughly thrown together so far.
http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/z0jt
Pentium G870 has shot up in price so I'm just sticking with the 860 despite my illogical desire to buy AMD. Already got a copy of Windows sorted through MSDN, RAM my brother is lending me (it's the 4GB version of this stuff) and I've got a spare 120GB laptop HDD lying around which I can use to bump up the storage a bit in this PC, as well as a very old SATA 250GB HDD if needs be.
Motherboard you might think odd going Z75 with a Pentium but for the sake of £15 more than most of the good B75 boards it'll at least give me the option to say upgrade to the 3570K or something similar if a good deal came along down the line. The 840 I'm still unsure of, the Crucial M4 is around the same price but part of me just prefers the Samsung.
Lastly the case, I've been trying to decide on this for ages and this is my not so short list, and if anyone has any opinions please help
Anetc One, Antec 302, Fractal Design Core 3000, Corsair Carbide 200R, Zalman Z11 Plus or Casecom 6788/Rosewill Challenger.
At the minute I'm leaning towards the 200R but I've always had a soft spot for the Casecom 6788/Rosewill Challenger. The Z11 is another I quite like but what makes me unsure of it is the fact that the USB 3 front IO header is not actually a header but an extension cable that has to be hooked up to one of the onboard rear IO USB 3 motherboard ports.
http://pcpartpicker.com/uk/p/z0jt
Pentium G870 has shot up in price so I'm just sticking with the 860 despite my illogical desire to buy AMD. Already got a copy of Windows sorted through MSDN, RAM my brother is lending me (it's the 4GB version of this stuff) and I've got a spare 120GB laptop HDD lying around which I can use to bump up the storage a bit in this PC, as well as a very old SATA 250GB HDD if needs be.
Motherboard you might think odd going Z75 with a Pentium but for the sake of £15 more than most of the good B75 boards it'll at least give me the option to say upgrade to the 3570K or something similar if a good deal came along down the line. The 840 I'm still unsure of, the Crucial M4 is around the same price but part of me just prefers the Samsung.
Lastly the case, I've been trying to decide on this for ages and this is my not so short list, and if anyone has any opinions please help
Anetc One, Antec 302, Fractal Design Core 3000, Corsair Carbide 200R, Zalman Z11 Plus or Casecom 6788/Rosewill Challenger.
At the minute I'm leaning towards the 200R but I've always had a soft spot for the Casecom 6788/Rosewill Challenger. The Z11 is another I quite like but what makes me unsure of it is the fact that the USB 3 front IO header is not actually a header but an extension cable that has to be hooked up to one of the onboard rear IO USB 3 motherboard ports.
Frame rate polls data every second. Frame time shows the time to render every frame. When you are talking about tens of thousands of frames rendered, you're obfuscating a ton of data through FPS polling. FPS metrics are outmoded.
But, I do agree with your last sentence.
Are all of those about the same price? If so, I'd say Core 3000. If not, go with the cheapest that isn't an Antec and put the money towards an i3
Even though we're only talking 20-40 bucks here, price is another consideration. I got my 660ti oc for 250 after rebate. I haven't seen a 7950 get that low yet. 50 bucks puts me well into my next graphics card in 3-4 years long before I truly put my 660ti to bed.
So glad to be included in this list. I feel like I now need to get on the GK110 train!
Are all of those about the same price? If so, I'd say Core 3000. If not, go with the cheapest that isn't an Antec and put the money towards an i3
Bar the Casecom 6788/Rosewill Challenger (it's £30) and Antec One (it's £35) the rest are all sitting around the £50 mark give or take a few quid. I'll not lie, Antec One does half tempt me too despite your lack of love for them
I looked at an i3 but they're around the £90 mark for a 3220 compared to the G860 which is sitting down at £49 which, at least to me, is a fair big chunk of difference considering for almost twice the price you'll not be getting twice the performance.
Don't we have a standing bet about 3DMark scores in our systems with GK110?
Can't back out now.
Infinite Justice
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Do you ever restart your PC?
Yes.
Xdrive05
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Yeah, that's my thinking too. The OC'd ASUS card we got at the price we got it is the deal-breaker in the 660 TI vs 7950 discussion for me. If we are taking specials out of the equation then I would probably recommend the 7950 to the gamer in for the long-haul, just because of memory limitations probably creeping up before the end.
But in a year or two both the 660 TI and 7950 will be chugging on the next-gen ports, and you'll be looking at the 7xx and 8xxx series and newer by then.
Horse Detective
Why the long case?
Next gen consoles will have a $200+ video card in them? :S
That's the one I'd shoot for.mkenyon I've found another case in my price range under £50, the BitFenix Shinobi
No, they're mobile versions with the same naming scheme to confuse people.
Thanks for the advice, time to fiddle around a bit and see what I end up buying!
Current rumors have them at less power than a 7850, so no. But with the added secret sauce and pixie dust Microsoft and Sony are using, they probably outperform the Geforce Titan.
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Finally, something in this thread that I don't feel bad about impulse buying.
I'm planning on pulling the trigger on a rig this week, but I'm a bit torn between two setups.
I was intending getting an i5 3570k, 8GB 1600mhz RAM and a GTX 670. However, an opportunity has presented itself where I can get an i7 3770k, 16GB 1600mhz RAM and a GTX 680 for 120 more, which seems like a bit of a steal, given the price difference on those parts ordinarily.
However, I'm not planning on doing anything intensive on this PC, apart from gaming, which is why I was only looking at the i5 and 8GB RAM. Is it still a better idea to stick with those and put the extra money towards some games? Or would it be worth it going for the other parts?
I'm a little concerned about future proofing now, looking at the rumoured specs of the next-gen consoles. Would an i7 be a better idea to have for the future?
I was intending getting an i5 3570k, 8GB 1600mhz RAM and a GTX 670. However, an opportunity has presented itself where I can get an i7 3770k, 16GB 1600mhz RAM and a GTX 680 for 120 more, which seems like a bit of a steal, given the price difference on those parts ordinarily.
However, I'm not planning on doing anything intensive on this PC, apart from gaming, which is why I was only looking at the i5 and 8GB RAM. Is it still a better idea to stick with those and put the extra money towards some games? Or would it be worth it going for the other parts?
I'm a little concerned about future proofing now, looking at the rumoured specs of the next-gen consoles. Would an i7 be a better idea to have for the future?
No 64 bit windows 7
My friend just got a 690, from the power supply he has an 8 pin connector and a 6 pin connector. The 690 requires two 8 pin connectors, so EVGA gave him an adapter from 6pin to 8pin. Is that ok for him to run the card like this or should he buy a PSU with two 8 pin connectors? Just asking for him he was wondering , so far everything is running fine.
Koroviev
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That doesn't seem like a good idea, but I'm not sure if it's a hazard or not.
Thinking the same , just was not sure. If anyone else knows please feel free to add in some advice! Thanks.
LiquidMetal14
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Wow lol
The Samsung 4GB 22USD versions of the "Wonder" RAM have already sold out. Good thing I hopped on and got 4 sticks while the gettin' was good.
I went back to check the RAM directory on Newegg and they took Samsung out. Page says sold out/discontinued so I'm wondering what's up with the RAM other than it being in high demand.
The Samsung 4GB 22USD versions of the "Wonder" RAM have already sold out. Good thing I hopped on and got 4 sticks while the gettin' was good.
I went back to check the RAM directory on Newegg and they took Samsung out. Page says sold out/discontinued so I'm wondering what's up with the RAM other than it being in high demand.
LiquidMetal14
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Unfortunately, I was not in any real frame of mind in updating a few months back when they were on sale but for 22 and their OC potential, I got 4 for 91 and change. Don't regret it for a second.
should be OK, though I'd avoid overclocking or running Furmark on it
the difference between 6 and 8 pin is that the latter has two more ground leads ... so there is somewhat more current/stress on the ground wires now
if it's a good quality PSU I wouldn't worry too much, if it's a cheap PSU I'd replace it ASAP
Rumored to be $1800 for SLI? No $330 is not a nice chunk.
LiquidMetal14
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It's about 1/5 the price so every bit of help goes a ways. 380 with that block is a good deal.
LOL, such a random thing to post but this section of a neat Newegg video made me laugh.
I installed Windows 7 Professional N on my new PC, but the free code they give students only applies to the regular Professional edition. The activation period is ending pretty soon, and as far as I know switching between N and standard requires a clean install.
I have two 1TB hard drives. I was wondering if I can save a backup on the secondary one, format the main one and then retrieve everything from the second drive. I had to format the second drive when I first activated it, and I wanted to make sure that I don't have to format it again once it has been used.
I have two 1TB hard drives. I was wondering if I can save a backup on the secondary one, format the main one and then retrieve everything from the second drive. I had to format the second drive when I first activated it, and I wanted to make sure that I don't have to format it again once it has been used.
CharpyImpact
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Based on the feedback and the OP regarding mice and keyboards, I decided to go with the
Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Red Switch (RK-9000RE)
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SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse Raw Edition (Rubberized Black)
My last question should I care about mousepads? Are there good mousepads for gaming vs worse or what? I just know my table needs a mousepad to work correctly. Thanks.
Rosewill Mechanical Keyboard with Cherry MX Red Switch (RK-9000RE)
and
SteelSeries Sensei Laser Gaming Mouse Raw Edition (Rubberized Black)
My last question should I care about mousepads? Are there good mousepads for gaming vs worse or what? I just know my table needs a mousepad to work correctly. Thanks.
Question for you, can you install that backplate along with a third party air cooler?
I just use wood. Works well
Don't listen to this guy. Get a Steelseries Qck cloth mousepad. Best in the business.
Very nice choices!
I use a funcpad archetype. It has a smooth side or a rough side. I use the smooth, it let's the mouse glide right across it. Has a mouse cord clip which is awesome with my keyboard tray. I've had it for 8+ years and am still just as happy with it as the day I bought it.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000TWX8I0/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Artisan Glass > All
I don't see why not. The backplate is intended to work with the reference design, as are third party coolers.
Haters, wood has the perfect slide and resistance to it and is naturally beautiful! Also comes free with a wood desk.
Hoping someone can help me out with a suggestion. I need a switch to go from 2 dual link DVI sources all to the same monitor so that I can switch between them. I do not need them to share audio or input devices though. All I have seen are multi-hundred dollar boxes though. Any cheaper options?
Unfortunately switches for Dual DVI have not hit economies of scale and they are techinically harder to make than analog sources so the prices are absurdly high. Does the monitor have a display port input you can use with one of the sources so you can use the monitor to switch?
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