I need help selecting a complementary console for my PS4

PCs have a ton of exclusives (like, literally thousands) and talking about 'plug and play' and 'driver issues' makes me question what decade you live in.

Yeah thousands of exclusives, which are not controller supported. Have fun playing Dota 2, Starcraft etc on a 50" screen. I tried and it sucks. So we can discard the idea to play those thousand exclusives on the tv. In fact, pc multiplats only started mass adopting xbox controller as an alternative only 6-7 years ago. I have a hard time finding controller support in any of my Steam game released before 2006/07 (library of over 300 games). I'm currently playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein on Steam, more than a decade old. Doesn't work with a controller(another game to scrap from the list). The game didn't even start on my 1440p monitor. I had to mess around in the config file and finally hunt for an unofficial fan patch to fix the game to bring it to a playable state. Which no one should have to do to play a game. I have tons of other "pc classics" on steam which doesn't work out of the gate on my 1440p monitor. There's always problems. Issues like mouse pointer not working in games like Supreme Commander series, Battlefield 3. Sonic Generations resolution problems, they come in all sizes and genres. And I'm not even talking about all these older games(Prey from 2006) not supporting the 1440p resolution of my monitor. I encounter these problems in 2014.
 
Thought about getting a Wii U myself, but have so many PS3 games I want to play and complete that it makes a purchase pretty worthless right now.

Xbox One is most definitely a no-no unless you must have Halo.
 
Wii U. Even if there isn't much 3rd party support the lineup looks great.


Also Vita! Loving it with my PS4. Great compliment with remote play and free games via PS+ if ur paying to play online anyway.
 
I think the Wii U has so many unique and great games that every gamer should have this console.

If you choose PS4, PC or Xbone as additional system is a matter of taste. Because these systems share a large part of their game library.

It's all a matter of taste. I had a WIi U and sold it as those unique and great games just aren't my cup of tea. Platformers and other gameplay-driven games don't do much for me these days--and when I have an itch to play them I prefer portable versions where I can just play a level or two on the crapper as I get bored of those games after that amount of time. And I don't care much for cartoony graphic styles.

As someone that prefers more realistic graphics, a decent story and characters to complement the gameplay etc., there's just not much exclusive to Nintendo that provides those type of Mass Effect/Bioshock/Skyrim/AC etc. experiences I enjoy.

So it's always silly to say that "every gamer" should have any console. It's a dumb generalization, just the reverse of someone like me saying something like "Nintendo is just for kids and nerds" because their games don't interest us much.
 
The obvious and really only answer to this is the WiiU. Unless you got a lot of friends on XBL or there's exclusives you want on it there's really no reason to own one over a PS4 anyway.
 
I dunno why you guys are recommending the pc. Usually when people ask for a console, they really mean a console. A htpc is not a console, no matter how much big picture mode you throw at it. People ask for a console to plug and play, and exclusives, they're not looking for extra pixel here and extra frame there.

Semantics aside, I'd recommend the PS4 anyday over a budget htpc, it's the premier place for multiplats. It's cheap and getting showered with pc ports. Even the uber pc only game like Star Citizen is likely getting a port(ps4 dev kits spotted at studio). Considering the ease of use(plug&play no wressling with drivers and errors), and the unrivaled price/performance of PS4 at 399, it is the rational choice.

For what it's worth I suggested the OP get a Wii U.

The post I was replying to had someone torn between what they considered a better controller and the better hardware of the PS4. Asking why not go PC and get both things they stated they want is a perfectly viable response.

I'm really not sure what the purpose of your comment is other than trying to start some sort of Console v. PC argument...
 
Yeah thousands of exclusives, which are not controller supported. Have fun playing Dota 2, Starcraft etc on a 50" screen. I tried and it sucks. So we can discard the idea to play those thousand exclusives on the tv. In fact, pc multiplats only started mass adopting xbox controller as an alternative only 6-7 years ago. I have a hard time finding controller support in any of my Steam game released before 2006/07 (library of over 300 games). I'm currently playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein on Steam, more than a decade old. Doesn't work with a controller(another game to scrap from the list). The game didn't even start on my 1440p monitor. I had to mess around in the config file and finally hunt for an unofficial fan patch to fix the game to bring it to a playable state. Which no one should have to do to play a game. I have tons of other "pc classics" on steam which doesn't work out of the gate on my 1440p monitor. There's always problems. Issues like mouse pointer not working in games like Supreme Commander series, Battlefield 3. Sonic Generations resolution problems, they come in all sizes and genres. And I'm not even talking about all these older games(Prey from 2006) not supporting the 1440p resolution of my monitor. I encounter these problems in 2014.

You sound like someone complaining that they can't play Power Stone with the fishing controller.

You at no point mentioned comfy couch / controller / perfect support for every title ever released on the x86 in the last 30 years; you mentioned exclusives (which the PC has a metric fuckton of).
As for your complaints about a controller; use xpadder.
As for your complaints about 10 year old game compatibility; some minor effort on your part has them working fine. What effort can you take to the same on an Xbone or PS4?
 
I got a WiiU a couple weeks ago and really enjoy it. There is a strong enough catalog of 1st party games for it that no other system has that it makes the system a worthy investment at this point (assuming you like the games that are out on the system)

Not only that, there seems to be a pretty nice lineup of games for the system coming out at the end of the year and some promising titles for next year (hopefully).

Yeah the PS4 and Xone have a couple of exclusives for each of them but not nearly enough to make them worth the price tag IMO, especially since I can play all the 3rd party games on my PC.
 
Yeah thousands of exclusives, which are not controller supported. Have fun playing Dota 2, Starcraft etc on a 50" screen. I tried and it sucks. So we can discard the idea to play those thousand exclusives on the tv. In fact, pc multiplats only started mass adopting xbox controller as an alternative only 6-7 years ago. I have a hard time finding controller support in any of my Steam game released before 2006/07 (library of over 300 games). I'm currently playing Return to Castle Wolfenstein on Steam, more than a decade old. Doesn't work with a controller(another game to scrap from the list). The game didn't even start on my 1440p monitor. I had to mess around in the config file and finally hunt for an unofficial fan patch to fix the game to bring it to a playable state. Which no one should have to do to play a game. I have tons of other "pc classics" on steam which doesn't work out of the gate on my 1440p monitor. There's always problems. Issues like mouse pointer not working in games like Supreme Commander series, Battlefield 3. Sonic Generations resolution problems, they come in all sizes and genres. And I'm not even talking about all these older games(Prey from 2006) not supporting the 1440p resolution of my monitor. I encounter these problems in 2014.

Do you expect developers to continually patch games 10, 12, even 15 years after the release date to keep up with compatibility?
It would certainly be appreciated, but I don't expect that kind of effort.

A small bit of configuration on your end is more than worth playing games of that age on modern hardware.

Also, exactly why the Steam Controller needs to come to fruition. Having a DS4 or XBO controller works great for xinput compatible games, but what about the thousands of games that existed before that became the standard? Steam Controller fills that niche.
 
You sound like someone complaining that they can't play Power Stone with the fishing controller.

You at no point mentioned comfy couch / controller / perfect support for every title ever released on the x86 in the last 30 years; you mentioned exclusives (which the PC has a metric fuckton of).
As for your complaints about a controller; use xpadder.
As for your complaints about 10 year old game compatibility; some minor effort on your part has them working fine. What effort can you take to the same on an Xbone or PS4?

THIS.

Guy is just itching to start a PC console war. Ignore him, and the OP should as well.
 
You sound like someone complaining that they can't play Power Stone with the fishing controller.

You at no point mentioned comfy couch / controller / perfect support for every title ever released on the x86 in the last 30 years; you mentioned exclusives (which the PC has a metric fuckton of).
As for your complaints about a controller; use xpadder.
As for your complaints about 10 year old game compatibility; some minor effort on your part has them working fine. What effort can you take to the same on an Xbone or PS4?
You questioned which decade I lived in when I brought up the ease of use of consoles vs pc, I answered. Comfy couch gaming, it's just another term for plug and play. Are you suggesting setting up a htpc is as easy as hooking up a console and shoving a disc in it? Because I just gave you my own year long experiences with it and it's not just installing steam, hook a controller YEY lets play 30 years of gaming. The 2 reasons being 1.problems getting the (older) games to work(technical side) and 2. most pc exclusives aren't made for the controller/don't have controller support. And yes, I can and will make effort to get my pc games working, but then we're not plug&play anymore. We're in a topic about consoles, it goes without saying people are looking for the comfy couch experience. This isn't a topic of someone asking whether to get a pc or console. they're asking which console to get under their tv. If someone was specifically open about having a htpc as a complementary machine, they'd have mentioned it. Most people on gaf likely already have a laptop or pc worth >500 bucks that could play games if they wanted to.

And xpadder costs money and still doesn't come close to how native support should be.
 
You questioned which decade I lived in when I brought up the ease of use of consoles vs pc, I answered. Comfy couch gaming, it's just another term for plug and play. Are you suggesting setting up a htpc is as easy as hooking up a console and shoving a disc in it? Because I just gave you my own year long experiences with it and it's not just installing steam, hook a controller YEY lets play 30 years of gaming. The 2 reasons being 1.problems getting the (older) games to work(technical side) and 2. most pc exclusives aren't made for the controller/don't have controller support. And yes, I can and will make effort to get my pc games working, but then we're not plug&play anymore. We're in a topic about consoles, it goes without saying people are looking for the comfy couch experience. This isn't a topic of someone asking whether to get a pc or console. they're asking which console to get under their tv. If someone was specifically open about having a htpc as a complementary machine, they'd have mentioned it. Most people on gaf likely already have a laptop or pc worth >500 bucks that could play games if they wanted to.

And xpadder costs money and still doesn't come close to how native support should be.

Instead of trying to trash PC gaming, how about you let the OP decide for him/herself what he/she wants?

Maybe he would be happy with the metric ton of MODERN PC exclusives or superior multi-plats that he can play with a gamepad, or with a wireless keyboard or mouse, or with a handheld like the Nvidia Shield, or on a monitor either directly or streamed.

Or maybe he'd be happy with not just a frame or extra pixel here or there as you claim in the most absurd reductionist bullshit I've ever seen posted on GAF, but with TWICE the frame rate or more and MILLIONS of pixels or more than consoles, or the better LOD's or the better FOV, or the better lighting and shadowing, or the larger view distances, or the more complex more numerous AI, or the better physics effects, etc, etc, etc.

You ARE giving up the absolute simplicity of the cookie cutter experience fo a console, but maybe, just maybe, the OP might be willing to give that up for the plethora of options found on PC, like I have and like hundreds of millions of others have, and even like you, apparently, despite your tirade, have as well.

Especially when he already HAS a PS4 where he can entertain that type of gaming.
 
This isn't a topic of someone asking whether to get a pc or console. they're asking which console to get under their tv.

Agree with this.

I get the impression that some of the people here are giving their recommendations based on the thread title alone. The op is pretty specific about the games they're looking to play.
 
Agree with this.

I get the impression that some of the people here are giving their recommendations based on the thread title alone. The op is pretty specific about the games he's looking to play.

1. I doubt the OP is going to be hamppered by seeing the two letters P & C here and there amongs the recommendations. I know console warirors get angry whenever those two letters apepars, but most other people would either simply read the recommendaiton if they find it interesting, or skip it.

2. This thread doesn't exist in a vacuum where only the OP is reading it. A lot of other people in similar circumstances are likely to read it and a PC recommendation for people looking for games to complement a console is likely goign to be a good one for many of them.
 
Instead of trying to trash PC gaming wiht your idiotic nonsense, how about you let the OP decide for him/herself what he/she wants?

Why are you so condescending? Are you not able to criticize/refute my claims without insulting? No one is trashing PC gaming. I argue that a pc is not a viable option for someone looking to get a console. Specifically because of my own experiences which I'm sharing here.
 
I would say the PS4/Wii U combo is the correct choice. You'll most likely have plenty to play on the PS4 while waiting for big first party Wii U titles to release.
 
If price isn't an issue, not sure why you don't get both. For $600, you can have both the Xbox One and Wii U. It wasn't that unusual for folks to own all 3 consoles last generation, and it shouldn't be this generation. Myself - I have a Xbox One, PS3, and Wii U - the PS3 may eventually become a PS4, but I have no need to do that. A lot of games I am interested in (like MLB The Show) are actually better on PS3 still.

if you absolutely refuse to be a 3 console gamer (it happens), the problem is that you want folks to suggest to you something for which we can't possibly know the answer. The most common response you will get is get a Wii U - PS4/Wii U seems to be the preferred combo this gen, or if you do own a Xbox One, then Xbox/Wii U. However, you do look forward to those exclusives on all platforms, and if you don't own a gaming capable PC then the Xbox One can be very attractive. It feels odd in my house because I own a gaming PC and an Xbox One - seems almost redundant at times, but at least I can resell Xbox One games down the line when I no longer want to play them.

So, you're really asking us to suggest to you which console you are going to enjoy, but it's up to you. As an example, you said you "love" Nintendo games. You listed off 4 titles I think so far you want or are looking forward to. Then 4 titles on Xbox One that are the same but vastly different. It's really about what you prefer to play. A lot of titles on the Xbox One will feel very similar to titles available on the PS4. But that doesn't matter to someone who actually wants to play Titanfall, Gears, etc.

So the real question I have for you is this: What are you hoping we can do for you OP? Only you know what your interested in. We can suggest a billion games to you, but it's obvious you know what games exist and are coming to the platform. Money not being an object that halts you, you could easily own them all and call it a day. Seems to be what you really want to do anyways. Otherwise without you being more specific of your gaming desires - listing 4 games on each platform doesn't give us much to aid you with.
 
Why are you so condescending? Are you not able to criticize/refute my claims without insulting? No one is trashing PC gaming. I argue that a pc is not a viable option for someone looking to get a console. Specifically because of my own experiences which I'm sharing here.

Your experience is so specific that it's likely not going to be HIS experience.

Trying to get 10 year old games to work ona 1440p monitor?

That's basically the basis of your entire rant. I don't know what to call that other than nonsense. Sorry about the idiotic adjective there. That WAS rather silly of me. Apologies.
 
If you want to get one? ..right now

Wii U. As a Wii U.... PS4/Xb1 and now a PC owner. I have to say that I did not even touch my Xbox1 after Titanfall. I get all the multiplatforms on PS4 blindly.

Now I am looking forward to the Xbox1 exclusives but I would not recommend it over a Wii U which has Zelda/Mario and Mario kart.
 
Since you want a secondary console, I think WiiU is the way to go, for Nintendo games mostly (and 2 third party exclusives, Xenoblade X and Bayonetta 2). Multiplatform (if any) are better on the PS4.
This way you have the best of both worlds, hardcore games and fun, "nintendo" type of games.

(personally, I have a PS4 and a gaming PC, and I'm fine with this setup)
 
I have all 3, the wii u is perfect as a second console. Xbox doesn't really get a look in and probably won't until sunset overdrive now. Good for all other media though.
 
Like so many others I would say Wii U, Vita is a good choice because it adds to your PS4 but if you looking to differentiate your game selection then Wii U is your best bet. I, will be buying a Wii U this week or next to go with my PS4
 
Agree with this.

I get the impression that some of the people here are giving their recommendations based on the thread title alone. The op is pretty specific about the games they're looking to play.

Exactly. And there's an awful lot of screaming Wii U at the OP when he lists only 3 games on it that interest him. The OP also doesn't list much for the X1 that interests them either.

My advice would be to just hold off and wait and see which of the Wii U/X1 ends up with more exclusives they want to play before buying a second console.

Of if they have any interest in portables, and don't already have one, maybe get a 3DS or Vita. 3DS would give him the Nintendo fix for cheaper, and with a currently deeper library--though of course that's all down to whether he likes many of the games. Vita brings a lot of indie stuff, JRPGs and other Japanese games that aren't in big supply on the PS4 yet, some good exclusive retail games out and available pretty cheap, and PS4 remote play.

So both are potentially cheaper options to fill that second console void either for good, or just until there's enough out on Wii U and X1 that one really warrants a purchase.

Honestly, if you have to go on a forum for advice on which to buy, the answer should always be that you don't really need either. Wait until there are enough must play games for you that you have no doubt which to get.
 
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My advice would be to just hold off and wait and see which of the Wii U/X1 ends up with more exclusives they want to play before buying a second console.
To be fair, the reasonable advice is always to wait until you don't need any help to decide any more because you're convinced you want something.

I'd also say Wii U just because of the forced lack of overlap between the PS4 and Wii U. From an access to content perspective that is the most efficient one to grab the most amount of titles without having a lot of redundant ones.

In the end you need to look at already released games and upcoming stuff and make your decision based on that and how much you value each individual title.
 
That's an easy recommendation: Wii U. It already has a library full of exclusives and pretty much everything that's coming is first-party exclusive as well. There is little overlap between Nintendo and Sony first-party in terms of experiences, while there's a larger overlap with XBO.

Then there's backwards-compatibility. The Wii U also plays Wii games. If you don't already have a Wii, that is definitely worth considering.

Also, don't forget that you won't need an additional subscription for Nintendo Network. With XBO you'd have Live Gold on top of PS+ if you want the "full experience".

Wii U and PS4 owner here.
 
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