I think limgrave might be the best starting area in a game ever
BennyBlanco
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Agreed but fuck that huge knight on the horse as soon as you pop out
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NeverYouMind
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I hated it. A whole lot of nothing. My pick would be infiltrating the Shadow Clan Fortress in Ninja Gaiden.
A close second would be waking up in Krat Central Station, traversing the surrounding plaza, beating Parade Master, and lying to enter Hotel Krat in Lies of P.
A close second would be waking up in Krat Central Station, traversing the surrounding plaza, beating Parade Master, and lying to enter Hotel Krat in Lies of P.
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LectureMaster
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I love The Great Plateau in BOTW better.
Limgrave didn't do much for me as I vastly prefer level based designs in previous souls games.
Limgrave didn't do much for me as I vastly prefer level based designs in previous souls games.
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Angry_Megalodon
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Gaiff
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Teaches you a fundamental aspect of the game: not everything needs to be fought right away.
TintoConCasera
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That's a bold statement man.
I think my vote would go to Starfox 64, Corneria never got boring even after a hundred times. Teaches you all the stuff, it's varied enough and it's easy to beat but tough to master, or at least as a kid it was for me.
ps: is it called Corneria because it's on the corner of the map? Might have just realized that after all those years.
I think my vote would go to Starfox 64, Corneria never got boring even after a hundred times. Teaches you all the stuff, it's varied enough and it's easy to beat but tough to master, or at least as a kid it was for me.
ps: is it called Corneria because it's on the corner of the map? Might have just realized that after all those years.
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cinnamonandgravy
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something about DS1's firelink shrine for me (the starting area + bird crap that precedes this is dumb)
unassuming, mysterious, interesting crossroads, melancholy boy, cool verticality
unassuming, mysterious, interesting crossroads, melancholy boy, cool verticality
Kagoshima_Luke
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I spent like 20 hours in Limgrave and actually thought it was the entire game just because of the map size and number of bosses was so high. When the map expanded, my mind was absolutely blown.
NeverYouMind
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Are you referring to first level of Duke Nukem 3D? I have never gotten around to any of the episodes after L.A. Meltdown but that was a great first experience. Are there any levels later in the game with similarly cool realized environments?
Buggy Loop
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Hard to imagine a better starting area yea. I think I honestly spent 30 hours in that zone
Witcher 3's White Orchard also comes to mind. An introduction to everything you'll need in the game, feels huge (yet so small after you open the other maps), has good introduction quests like slaying that Griffin.
Witcher 3's White Orchard also comes to mind. An introduction to everything you'll need in the game, feels huge (yet so small after you open the other maps), has good introduction quests like slaying that Griffin.
intbal
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I would say there's at least one great level per episode, but none of them have the impact of that first level.
Dacvak
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Star Fox 64's intro level design doesn't get enough praise. Great pick.
I'd also nominate Mega Man X's intro stage.
StreetsofBeige
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Gojiira
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Hmm Limgrave is a fantastic map regardless of what naysayers may claim.
All these people mentioning the Great Plateau,Krat etc, nobody mentioning the actual GOAT intro for a game :
MGS2 Tanker Mission.
Its absolute perfection, fantastic intro sequence, introduces you to all the new and old mechanics, its moody and atmospheric,doesnt overstay its welcome yet to this day many will say its the best sequence in the game. You have ample opportunity to explore and approach the Tanker however you want. Its great, just great.
And to top it all off it ends in a pretty surprising way seemingly killing off the main character. Either way its a intro you dont forget.
All these people mentioning the Great Plateau,Krat etc, nobody mentioning the actual GOAT intro for a game :
MGS2 Tanker Mission.
Its absolute perfection, fantastic intro sequence, introduces you to all the new and old mechanics, its moody and atmospheric,doesnt overstay its welcome yet to this day many will say its the best sequence in the game. You have ample opportunity to explore and approach the Tanker however you want. Its great, just great.
And to top it all off it ends in a pretty surprising way seemingly killing off the main character. Either way its a intro you dont forget.
TheChadOfGaming
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elywnn forest in WoW is the GoaT
Josemayuste
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I'm sorry, but there's only one real answer to a best starting area in a game ever:
NeverYouMind
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I personally preferred Caria Manor, Ephael Brace of the Erdtree, and Nokron.
NeverYouMind
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It just occured to me that they were doing freaky stuff in a cemetery at night. No wonder the undead and demons of the underworld were out to get them.
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bender
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Tenchu was such an amazing sandbox. I love that you could throw a rice wine to distract a guard and if you were quick enough to kill him before he was able to take a sip, the item would drop back to the ground were it could be recollected.
Rockondevil
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I just remember having to avoid the knight dude repeatedly.
sigmaZ
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Out of the modern open world Soulsborne games, I agree.The soothing music, the lush green landscape, hidden stuff around every corner. Fantastic exploration and It blew me away. Peak video games.
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Mario 64 when it originally game out though was more mindblowing.
cireza
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If I had to pick a Souls game (having played all of them), Majula from Dark Souls II left the strongest impression.
I didn't like Limgrave much, because you could already feel the upcoming bloat.
Otherwise there are a ton of great examples of excellent starting areas in games.
For example the Shibuya Bus Terminal in Jet Set Radio is fantastic. It is small, yet teaches you all the core game-design and level-design elements of the game. Tag, grinding, the order in which you should do things as cops arrive and tagging on the ground is not safe anymore, hanging in the heights while mastering jumping etc...
The first Day Stage in Sonic Unleashed, Apotos, has all the core elements of level-design of the game while being very accessible and a blast to play through. Day stages are an absolute masterclass in this game anyway.
First level of Tomb Raider 1 is also excellent. Teaches you everything in a smooth way.
I didn't like Limgrave much, because you could already feel the upcoming bloat.
Otherwise there are a ton of great examples of excellent starting areas in games.
For example the Shibuya Bus Terminal in Jet Set Radio is fantastic. It is small, yet teaches you all the core game-design and level-design elements of the game. Tag, grinding, the order in which you should do things as cops arrive and tagging on the ground is not safe anymore, hanging in the heights while mastering jumping etc...
The first Day Stage in Sonic Unleashed, Apotos, has all the core elements of level-design of the game while being very accessible and a blast to play through. Day stages are an absolute masterclass in this game anyway.
First level of Tomb Raider 1 is also excellent. Teaches you everything in a smooth way.
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Johnny Concrete
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The first time that door opened up and I got greeted with that landscape it blew my mind. And I had no idea how big that world beyond it was.
Yes and they do this all the time. After you get over that hill it does it again with the landscape. You often stand on the edge of a bowl-shaped landscape where you can see the structures you can visit and the paths towards it.
Fantastic stuff really.
Masterpiece of visual design.
You subconsciously process the entire golden path up until the first legacy dungeon just by how the landscape is layered.
Yes and they do this all the time. After you get over that hill it does it again with the landscape. You often stand on the edge of a bowl-shaped landscape where you can see the structures you can visit and the paths towards it.
Fantastic stuff really.
thefool
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DS2 Majala is so much comfier.
If we're talking fromsoft, Bloodborne is the best one. If you learn to play the first level, the rest of the game is kind of a breeze. It teaches you pretty much everything you need to move forward. I think that first encampment in limgrave is a terrible intro to the game mechanics, it's made as if users are experienced in souls games.
If we're talking fromsoft, Bloodborne is the best one. If you learn to play the first level, the rest of the game is kind of a breeze. It teaches you pretty much everything you need to move forward. I think that first encampment in limgrave is a terrible intro to the game mechanics, it's made as if users are experienced in souls games.
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GymWolf
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I think the first encampement teach you to use stealth because fighting 20 soldiers at once is a suicide.
At worse we can say that stealth against VERY large groups of enemies is not really used that much in the rest of the game and basically useless in the actual quality contents like the main dungeons unless my memory is tricking me.
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The Cockatrice
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Some unpopular examples:
Santa Monica in Bloodlines.
Sarif Manufacturing plant in Deus Ex HR
Santa Monica in Bloodlines.
Sarif Manufacturing plant in Deus Ex HR
GymWolf
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There are so many great locations in gaming that unpopular might be the wrong term, it's just impossible to remember all of them.
Northeastmonk
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I love the wind and music
Toots
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Best styarting area and "Punish the evil merchant" is the best objective i ever saw in a game
Going from the village, up to the castle, to inside the castle with all the secret passages was mind blowing, it felt "open worldly" (even with the loadings) when at the time no game was open world.