Liopleurodon
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Gonna play until tow truck missions...
Kill Tonya, and then uninstall.
Kill Tonya, and then uninstall.
Those missions are just so retarded. Do they even have a decent payoff? I forgot.
Those missions are just so retarded. Do they even have a decent payoff? I forgot.
Meanwhile here's me doing the Ambulance and Pizza Boy missions in Vice City every single year because I want the infinite sprint and extra health and I genuinely have fun doing those kinds of missions.GTA games like to give you bitch missions at the start to contrast with the epic crime lord you become at the end.
It's effective storytelling, but not very fun.
The difference is those are optional vs "mandatory" in the main story.Meanwhile here's me doing the Ambulance and Pizza Boy missions in Vice City every single year because I want the infinite sprint and extra health and I genuinely have fun doing those kinds of missions.
Reminds me of KCD2 where you gotta move rocks and pick flowersGTA games like to give you bitch missions at the start to contrast with the epic crime lord you become at the end.
It's effective storytelling, but not very fun.
GTA games like to give you bitch missions at the start to contrast with the epic crime lord you become at the end.
It's effective storytelling, but not very fun.
I wouldn't call it fun there, either, but I feel like it really works in KCD 2's context and favor. Slower-paced and more effortful of a game than GTA.Reminds me of KCD2 where you gotta move rocks and pick flowers
GTA games like to give you bitch missions at the start to contrast with the epic crime lord you become at the end.
It's effective storytelling, but not very fun.
Well said. Michael and his family are terrible people who deserve each other, which is also the same conclusion they themselves come to, and is the supposed "payoff" of their arc, IIRC.GTA V is terrible in this regard because it's 100% a humiliation ritual. Franklin and especially Michael have a ridiculous amount of humiliating missions where you just get punked and treated like shit for literally no reason. I replayed GTA V not too long ago and it is insane how many "Huuuu we fucking hate you Michael, you're a fucking loser Michael, you are the worst dad ever Michael, how can you call yourself a man Michael" missions there are. There's no payoff to any of these missions, you get treated like shit, when the mission is over your family scolds you and you sulk in your misery.
*MISSION COMPLETE*
Congrats, that felt terrible and I feel bad. Wow can't wait to play another mission.
A start contrast with GTA IV where it's actually incredibly well done because it slowly nudges Niko back into a life of crime even though he desperately wants to escape it.
Only the first Tonya mission is mandatory, the rest of them can be ignored if you want.The difference is those are optional vs "mandatory" in the main story.
Like I enjoy running 5 miles, but I wouldn't like it as much if someone told me I had to.
It's been a while since I've played it, but its only in V I feel. The other games have cooler payoffs and story progression. V is like all 3 characters realizing everyone hates them, but at least they have each other. I don't mind characters who I would detest in real life leading a story (Succession, most mafia shows/movies, etc.), but the characters have to motive and direction. Only Franklin does in the beginning and his arc is over pretty quickly as he makes it outta the hood.GTA V is terrible in this regard because it's 100% a humiliation ritual. Franklin and especially Michael have a ridiculous amount of humiliating missions where you just get punked and treated like shit for literally no reason. I replayed GTA V not too long ago and it is insane how many "Huuuu we fucking hate you Michael, you're a fucking loser Michael, you are the worst dad ever Michael, how can you call yourself a man Michael" missions there are. There's no payoff to any of these missions, you get treated like shit, when the mission is over your family scolds you and you sulk in your misery.
*MISSION COMPLETE*
Congrats, that felt terrible and I feel bad. Wow can't wait to play another mission.
A start contrast with GTA IV where it's actually incredibly well done because it slowly nudges Niko back into a life of crime even though he desperately wants to escape it.