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IGN: DS going online with Pokemon?
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everybody should really be shifting their attention to Mario Kart and not Pokemon.
The game is still tentively slated for march anyway, The game got pushed back a bit in japan, and it would be the perfect thing to launch right alongside the PSP in the US.
Am I sure? No. But I have been hearing the same thing from a few different sources of varying credibility. Really Pokemon diamond hasn't even been given a vague date yet, so Mario Kart is really a prime candidate.
not that pokemon won't use it, the timing just seems off.
Actually a lot of candidate games have march dates, from MK to metroid to animal crossing, but mario kart is the one that fits the description given in the mail bag.
The game is still tentively slated for march anyway, The game got pushed back a bit in japan, and it would be the perfect thing to launch right alongside the PSP in the US.
Am I sure? No. But I have been hearing the same thing from a few different sources of varying credibility. Really Pokemon diamond hasn't even been given a vague date yet, so Mario Kart is really a prime candidate.
not that pokemon won't use it, the timing just seems off.
Actually a lot of candidate games have march dates, from MK to metroid to animal crossing, but mario kart is the one that fits the description given in the mail bag.
I believe Kobun mentioned some time ago March/April is the fiscal year end for many companies and games get throw at March for some reason. Maybe the faint hope that they can get it out by then and to bad the current fiscal year's planned releases.
That said, I think DS on-line would be doable and likely if we think in terms of Battle.net set-up. Knowing Nintendo, always being frugal and practical to a fault, what can be expected is probably just a matchmaking server and maybe some simple options.
And I think a lot of the games that have on-line features will offer them for free.
That said, I think DS on-line would be doable and likely if we think in terms of Battle.net set-up. Knowing Nintendo, always being frugal and practical to a fault, what can be expected is probably just a matchmaking server and maybe some simple options.
And I think a lot of the games that have on-line features will offer them for free.
Amir0x said:
I wasn't making myself clear enough. I was referring to the post where lockii said he was sick of hearing about a "DS backlash" where everyone would sell their DS and buy a PSP. I was just saying that i believe the DS will be steadily outsold on a weekly/monthly basis unless Nintendo can pull something out of their ass (which in this case looks to be a BIG something).
Spiritreaver
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Eh, I've commented on this before quite a few times before, but I get the feeling that I'm the only one who really thinks online Pokemon or a Pokemon MMORPG would be a bad idea. Hell, a Pokemon MMORPG may not be an easy road to success as many people seem to think. It could easily be the first true RPG flop of the series.
Regardless though, I'm a little tired of seeing DS online speculation, let me see it already, then I'll really believe it and get excited.
Regardless though, I'm a little tired of seeing DS online speculation, let me see it already, then I'll really believe it and get excited.
DarthWufei said:
I don't know why you think it's a bad idea. It's practically like the whole concept was made with MMORPGs in mind. It's an extremely player-driven customizable (as far as your fighting monster teams go) game where you challenge OTHER people to battles! I mean, that's practically the definition of PvP right there.
But imagine it on larger terms. Multiple classes - PokePhotographer, PokeScientist, PokemonTrainer, PokemonGymLeader, WaterPokemonMaster, FirePokemonMaster, PsiPokemonMaster, GrassPokemonMaster, RockPokemonMaster, etc...
Imagine Ragnarok Online type costume customization on top of that, and All 300+ Pokemon available to be captured and tamed for use in battling your way to the top.
I see nothing but good from such a concept
Spiritreaver
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I understand how it would be fun and great, but that's not how I'm looking at it all. First off, this is a game for children, children under the age of 12 mainly, I can't see many parents letting their kids sign up for an online game where they have contacts with many people they don't know. Do you trust a little kid to be mindful about who he's playing with in such a game?Amir0x said:I don't know why you think it's a bad idea. It's practically like the whole concept was made with MMORPGs in mind. It's an extremely player-driven customizable (as far as your fighting monster teams go) game where you challenge OTHER people to battles! I mean, that's practically the definition of PvP right there.
But imagine it on larger terms. Multiple classes - PokePhotographer, PokeScientist, PokemonTrainer, PokemonGymLeader, WaterPokemonMaster, FirePokemonMaster, PsiPokemonMaster, GrassPokemonMaster, RockPokemonMaster, etc...
Imagine Ragnarok Online type costume customization on top of that, and All 300+ Pokemon available to be captured and tamed for use in battling your way to the top.
I see nothing but good from such a concept
Secondly, the point of Pokemon was a communication tool for kids to meet other kids and make friends. I think it's best that the game system is set up so that two people have to be in person to play with each other. I don't find letting kids talk to text and pictures on a screen to be a constructive way of making friends. They need to that personal interaction.
I'm not truely the only person who thinks about this I know. In fact there was an interview with the creators of pokemon and this question about it being online was brought up. They mentioned looking into it, but again stressed the communication tool as one of the main principles of the game. Going online adds news ways to communicate yes, but it offers a server lack of interaction I feel kids should have. Pokemon Online would be a world of little whiny kids who can't spell or do things on their own when people are around, older kids and young adults in the gamer crowd who wouldn't feel comfortable being bothered by kids, grievers who are going to make the game a living hell for people and with kids I feel that's a serious issue, and other little threats that could pose up. Can we say pedophile heaven?
Lastly there's just the fact that it's simply going to have to be free or low cost, easy to set up, and very simple to use. Again this is something for kids, yeah plenty of Pokemon fans are not kids, but that's not where the games direction is at. Do you expect clueless parents and 8 year olds to set up the DS, a wireless network, and billing? Or even then trying to set up a network with a console. It's going to pose issues, I know that last one is probably a small problem, as more people are learning to understand computers and how they work, but I just feel online set ups right now for gaming aren't very tuned enough to who this game is directed to.
imastalker co.
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for those of you guys with the "i'll believe it when i see it" stance, well, it'll happen in march at the latest. so i wouldn't worry about it. not gonna happen with Mario Kart though. that's not gonna get released til sept from what i've been hearing. my bets are on Jump Superstars, or Advance Wars being one of the first online games. aside from what Square has in the works.
Capcom is gonna have a little shindig next week. hopefully they blow us all away and bust out online Street Fighter DS. that would be god like. oh well, we'll more than likely see their DS line up finally.
Capcom is gonna have a little shindig next week. hopefully they blow us all away and bust out online Street Fighter DS. that would be god like. oh well, we'll more than likely see their DS line up finally.
imastalker co.
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Spiritreaver
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MMBN would make for an awesome online game and given the basic premise of the series, there's a lot the creators could do with. Hell I'd rather buy a version of MMBN that included a chat function kind of like how PSO lobbies work, than a firmware update, You could create your own Navi and just chat with people online in the MMBN world. You can still draw and whatnot like pictochat, type too, perhaps even voice chat. Hell they could just plain take the entire game online if the wanted.nubbe said:
But yeah, then I remember this is Capcom and cry.
Well, we don't really need an MMORPG for a lot of the DS on-line options to work. It may in fact be inpractical.
But something closer to a more static form of on-line function, like uploading data and downloading data would be great.
It works for both Pokemon and Animal Crossing, where players keep an on-line account and upload their player data and trade monsters/items online but through a trading house system where items are mailed/sent and interaction can be limited by how wide players want to cast their nets. It won't be like walking down a virtual city and being hassled by kids and currency sellers.
But something closer to a more static form of on-line function, like uploading data and downloading data would be great.
It works for both Pokemon and Animal Crossing, where players keep an on-line account and upload their player data and trade monsters/items online but through a trading house system where items are mailed/sent and interaction can be limited by how wide players want to cast their nets. It won't be like walking down a virtual city and being hassled by kids and currency sellers.
Ruud_Luiten
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my guess is that an online highscorelist can be posted. No direct online play.
This point is already mute. My 10 year old brother is having loads of fun playing WoW. Of course he isn't a generalization and neither is my mother, but he also sits down for hours on end and plays Pokemon. I don't see why this is such a huge issue.DarthWufei said:
I see more kids these days spending more time online and making more friends in the process, whether through chat programs or online games, compared to say them going outside after school for hours like I used to a decade ago. It does limit the personalisation process by limiting it online but it does not restrict the fact that you can be personal online as well.DarthWufei said:
When hasn't a Nintendo product, software or hardware, been extremely hard or complex to set up? They have stressed numerous times the issue of free subscription vs. payment subscription for online games. Personally I see them pumping out a payment simply because it means more $$$, but again this could be wrong regarding their usual comments lately.DarthWufei said:
You did raise a very valid argument and I am sure if Nintendo do have the mindset that yes, the majority of Pokemon enthusiasts are children, then of course they have to take everything into account if it indeed goes online.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Well, it seems to perfectly describe Mario Kart, but with Johnny saying it's not that...I'm not sure.
The only Nintendo games which really fit this:
"And the first game out of Nintendo to use this service will be one of those massively killer Nintendo brands that people have been wanting to play online for years..."
are Mario Kart and Pokemon. Zelda and Mario are also massively killer, but I don't think people have been waiting years to play online with them. Pokemon seems even further off then Mario kart though, so I'm guessing Craig is just over exagerrating.
If this all goes ahead, Sega should bring a PSO to the DS. It's perfect for the system. Top screen for the main game, bottom screen for the menus and tapping in messages. There's the microphone too for communication if you prefer that.
EDIT: Oh, and Smash Bros I suppose. There hasn't even been one annoucned though.
The only Nintendo games which really fit this:
"And the first game out of Nintendo to use this service will be one of those massively killer Nintendo brands that people have been wanting to play online for years..."
are Mario Kart and Pokemon. Zelda and Mario are also massively killer, but I don't think people have been waiting years to play online with them. Pokemon seems even further off then Mario kart though, so I'm guessing Craig is just over exagerrating.
If this all goes ahead, Sega should bring a PSO to the DS. It's perfect for the system. Top screen for the main game, bottom screen for the menus and tapping in messages. There's the microphone too for communication if you prefer that.
EDIT: Oh, and Smash Bros I suppose. There hasn't even been one annoucned though.
Phantasy Star Online DS was rumored a while back (the same rumor predicted Puyo Puyo Fever DS, which came true). It'd be a good fit, I also expect the DS versions of FFCC and Zelda 4 Swords to probably be online.
If the online thing is happening sooner rather than later, the "killer" Nintendo game might just be Metroid Prime: Hunters this May.
If the online thing is happening sooner rather than later, the "killer" Nintendo game might just be Metroid Prime: Hunters this May.
Mama Smurf
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Doesn't really fit in with the whole "people have been wanting to play online for years" thing though. There wasn't even a multiplayer for online until a few months ago.
Shikamaru Ninja
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I am thinking Metroid Prime Hunters is definitely going to be the big game to do it. It's the biggest American killer app from Nintendo announced for the DS. Mario Kart and Animal Crossing will follow shortly after.
Mama Smurf
My penis is still intact.
Mario Kart, Pokemon, Animal Crossing and Advance Wars online would just be so huge.
I know this isn't in the discussion and SO doesn't meet the criteria, but a dirty port of WaveRace by NST (Where the only thing they were allowed to modify was an increase in the framerate and online play) would get me to buy the system and a wireless router/wireless NICs for the computers the day of it's release. That would excite me more than anything else Nintendo could release for the system.
The possibilities of all these franchises going online within the year is mind-boggling. If we get Mario Kart / Metroid / Pokemon / Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles / Zelda: 4 Swords / Phantasy Star Online / Animal Crossing / Advance Wars online, this will truly be the year of the DS for me!
Shikamaru Ninja said:
I predicted MPH would be the first online DS game the moment its May (think E3) release date was announced. Certainly that would make Nintendo's decision to package the demo with the system seem ingenious!
The only thing that made me say Mario Kart was the suggestion that we've been waiting years to play this first online DS game online...
as an online FPS, metroid hunters could be a huge killer app for the DS. FPS is one area where the touch screen could really pay off... nothing else outside of a pc can pull off that kind of fps control. i don't own a ds (yet) but i messed with hunters on my friends system, and it was amazingly close to mouse + keyboard... put that online and you've got a winner.
strategy games online should be amazing as well. i can't wait to see how much fun a good RTS might be on the DS. it's pretty much built to play all the popular multiplayer pc genres, nintendo needs to take advantage of that ASAP and start making a few games in those genres.
third parties should too. how about quake for ds? starcraft or C&C for ds? lots and lots of potential.
strategy games online should be amazing as well. i can't wait to see how much fun a good RTS might be on the DS. it's pretty much built to play all the popular multiplayer pc genres, nintendo needs to take advantage of that ASAP and start making a few games in those genres.
third parties should too. how about quake for ds? starcraft or C&C for ds? lots and lots of potential.
Bluemercury
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So which company will have an announcement now?Konami? Capcom? and now Nintendo in March? where did you saw these?im confused.....
sidnotcrazy
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If this is true, could this be why there is such a bottleneck when it come to new software releases
Evidently Capcom, Konami, Square Enix and Nintendo will all be making DS announcements within the next 2 months. Nintendo must be rounding up support to try and counter the inevitable PSP hype train this March. I bet we'll see some major Sega Sammy, Bandai, EA, Namco, Activision, THQ and UbiSoft announcements too.Bluemercury said:
Lemurnator
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ONLINE GAMING IS A FAD.
StorablePrawn
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Animal Crossing and Phantasy Star Online, online for DS.
I'm not getting my hopes up.
But I'm getting my hopes up anyway.
(Ah, the life of a Nintendo console owner...)
I'm not getting my hopes up.
But I'm getting my hopes up anyway.
(Ah, the life of a Nintendo console owner...)
Spiritreaver
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Is that so? That's pretty cool actually, I guess I'm simply not giving kids the credit their due. But I still can't see the same being said if we go down to a younger group. i also kind of don't feel you're going to find many predators and similar young kids in a game like WoW, people usually know grom the get go that such games will basically draw in crowds of teens and young adults. Pokemon is another matter, it's shown off as a kids game, and it's thought of as a kid's game. This could attract the wrong crowd. Maybe I'm just over worrisome, but the chance of something happening to my kid, however small, would still bother me. I guess it would be up to the parents to keep a closer watch on what the kid's doing and whatnot, and it would make sense if they're spending for such a game.speedpop said:
This is definitely true, and I agree it does offer new ways to communicate for kids. I guess I just can't see how it can be as rewarding to mental and physical development as playing with those friends at school, outside in the fresh air. I guess for that matter it's more likely for something to happen to a kid outside than on an online game, perhaps the threat just seems more existent in a closed circle rather than a large world.
Well of course, but when has Nintendo ever had an online product the went over well? I'm not sure how that Pokemon Mobile Adapter stuff went over in Japan, but I would have liked to see how it would have went over here in the US. Regardless I think that online is a new territory, perhaps I'm just prudent as I mentioned previously, but it has to implemented in the easiest way for a game like Pokemon.
You're quite right. I definitely don't want the idea of Pokemon online to be thrown out completely. I think it's something Nintendo could do if they really planned on it. I mean it can be done, and I have little doubt Nintendo could do it right, it just would take a lot of work to have it stand out, and be a rewarding experience. Pokemon is probably one of the hardest franchises to get online of Nintendo's franchises. But done right, it could easily bring a huge breath of fresh air to the series.
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