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[Kataploom]

If Steam Deck figured it out I wouldn't be so quick to say we won't have it ever.

There's an issue in the Linux gaming community regarding VRR and HDR, we can only have 422 HDR and it some people have bypassed that limitation with DisplayPort to HDMI cables, but cannot get VRR out of them with HDR, so we're stuck with 422 HDR with VRR out 444 HDR without it, it seems like converting DisplayPort to HDMI is very conflicting and not even the best cable developers can make it work without some compromise. My assumption is that Nintendo had to choose between those two and opted for the one what had more noticeable impact, maybe they'll fix it or maybe they won't, who knows...

 

[rodrigolfp]

because it run with n64 image quality

Could have N64, Atari or oscilloscope IQ, still has better performance (and graphics settings... and price.)

 

[LordOcidax]

Could have N64, Atari or oscilloscope IQ, still has better performance (and graphics settings... and price.)

The Switch 2 probably can run the game at 60fps with those settings… I think you missed his point.

 

[Gambit2483]

There's an issue in the Linux gaming community regarding VRR and HDR, we can only have 422 HDR and it some people have bypassed that limitation with DisplayPort to HDMI cables, but cannot get VRR out of them with HDR, so we're stuck with 422 HDR with VRR out 444 HDR without it, it seems like converting DisplayPort to HDMI is very conflicting and not even the best cable developers can make it work without some compromise. My assumption is that Nintendo had to choose between those two and opted for the one what had more noticeable impact, maybe they'll fix it or maybe they won't, who knows...

Huh? Doesn't Switch 2 screen support both HDR and VRR?

I was referring to Steam Deck figuring out how to get VRR support through their dock onto a TV screen.

Steam Deck now supports VRR over HDMI on supported TVs with SteamOS 3.6.5 update

Yes, the Steam Deck now finally supports VRR over HDMI on FreeSync TVs with the latest SteamOS 3.6.5 preview update.

www.pcguide.com

Edit: Or are you saying there is an issue with getting both HDR and VRR through HDMI onto a TV/Monitor..?

 

[Kurt]

Eh?? Better than Ally X version how??

That was already the case though. Switch 2 is the best handheld version atm in terms of visuals and performance. Video of 2 weeks ago:



But its nice to have an official confirmation of the developer.

 

[rodrigolfp]

The Switch 2 probably can run the game at 60fps with those settings… I think you missed his point.

Maybe, but it doesn't run.

 

[rodrigolfp]

That was already the case though. Switch 2 is the best handheld version atm in terms of visuals and performance. Video of 2 weeks ago:



But its nice to have an official confirmation of the developer.

???

 

[Kataploom]

Huh? Doesn't Switch 2 screen support both HDR and VRR?

I was referring to Steam Deck figuring out how to get VRR support through their dock onto a TV screen.

Steam Deck now supports VRR over HDMI on supported TVs with SteamOS 3.6.5 update

Yes, the Steam Deck now finally supports VRR over HDMI on FreeSync TVs with the latest SteamOS 3.6.5 preview update.

www.pcguide.com

Yes, internally and it's using DisplayPort as an internal interface to connect the GPU with the screen iirc, basically every handheld PC does the same, Steam Deck took a while to have VRR on docked and as I read somewhere it's still not perfect, they have to convert DisplayPort to HDMI and on top of that Nintendo has to go through USB between both, I can see how that may be an issue, I have no much problems with that because their games tend to have great performance anyway, and in general consoles cap games frame rate.

I'd have a problem on my PC tho, since we play with unlocked frame rate all the time, if I couldn't enable VRR, I'm currently gaming on Linux and can tell you yes, it's problematic, I even had to solve and weird issue with my Samsung TV on Windows because it wouldn't enable HDR properly if Freesync was enabled on my AMD GPU (Nvidia seems not to have this issue, Samsung used Nvidia only for the tests).

So let's hope they figure out a solution later, as of now, it's pretty clear everyone has a problem with VRR over HDMI whenever HDR is present, Sony and Valve did too.

 

[Shaki12345]

Hopefully that trend continues

The next Zelda will be 30fps again because people think GTA6 being 30 is ok again all of a sudden.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The next Zelda will be 30fps again because all of you think GTA6 being 30 is ok again all of a sudden.

No, because the last Zelda was a sub-30fps game. That's why.

 

[Shaki12345]

No, because the last Zelda was a sub-30fps game. That's why.

Sorry, I meant: the next Zelda will be sub 30 like GTA6 and the previous Zelda.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sorry, I meant: the next Zelda will be sub 30 like GTA6 and the previous Zelda.

GTA6 has nothing to do with Nintendo making their decisions.

 

[Shaki12345]

GTA6 has nothing to do with Nintendo making their decisions.

No, but apparently people don't give a F about 60 anymore bc GTA is (sub) 30 and it will sell like gangbusters.

 

[DeepEnigma]

No, but apparently people don't give a F about 60 anymore bc GTA is (sub) 30 and it will sell like gangbusters.

GTA6 has nothing to do with Nintendo making their decisions.

 

[Shaki12345]

Like I said, if millions of people think 30 is ok again it could be an argument for Nintendo to push for 30 DeepEnigma

 

[nordique]

*Switch 2 is more capable than they expected (Impressed with the hardware)
*Confirmation that just 1 CPU core is reserved for the system (Not 2 cores as previous leak stated)
*40 fps mode is available in docked mode (VRR in docked mode is matter of time?)
*Mechanical hard drive + less ram was the biggest limiting factor in the old gen machines.
*Changes to the engine to support ARM architecture.
*MicroSD is fast (Not an issue)
*Best handheld version
*Not powerful as an 5090 (IGN)

Good summary. lol at the ign 5090 part.


Wondering about the cpu cores…I interpreted it as it could still have 2 cores reserved and only 6 available for games

Another thing the team had to contend with was that the Switch 2 has fewer computational cores available than any other platform Cyberpunk has been built for, including previous generation consoles. "We have at least one core we share with the OS [operating system]," Tremblay reveals. That narrowing of resources means that where once there was core space available to enhance performance, that space now has to be used for activities such as decompression or IO operation. "This was one of the struggles we had, but otherwise I think it was surprisingly fast to get the game running on the platform. We were all super impressed."

I don't know if that's the authors own opinion or not. How many cpu cores did ps4 and Xbox one have available? I thought it was 7 available for games for those. If switch 2 had 7 available for games, then the statement of "fewer cores available including than prior generation" doesn't make sense. It would read "it has the same available". So if there are only 6 cores available that statement still makes sense

I wonder how much it matters though with optimization. Core per core A78C is much better than Jaguar.

 

[LordOcidax]

Good summary. lol at the ign 5090 part.


Wondering about the cpu cores…I interpreted it as it could still have 2 cores reserved and only 6 available for games



I don't know if that's the authors own opinion or not. How many cpu cores did ps4 and Xbox one have available? I thought it was 7 available for games for those. If switch 2 had 7 available for games, then the statement of "fewer cores available including than prior generation" doesn't make sense. It would read "it has the same available". So if there are only 6 cores available that statement still makes sense

I wonder how much it matters though with optimization. Core per core A78C is much better than Jaguar.

I think that the IGN made the question based on the information that was available at that point (DF based) but the CDPR guy made the clarification. Looks like the Switch 2 has 1 CPU Core for the system but the devs still have access to use it (For some tasks), so is shared like the guy explained. DF stated that the Switch 2 have 2 CPU cores exclusively for the system… Maybe the Nintendo upgraded the SDK. Also, according to Google the PS4 have 7 cores dedicated to games (Looks like is the same for the current gen, 1 core dedicated to the system). So is basically the same situation.

 

[GigaBowser]

The Switch 2 probably can run the game at 60fps with those settings… I think you missed his point.

steamdeck look crud compared to switch steemdeck fans delumisal ahaha

 

[Kataploom]

No, because the last Zelda was a sub-30fps game. That's why.

It wasn't tho, the game running 99% of the time at 30 basically locked then suddenly dipping some frames due to the use of ultra hand or any other skill doesn't make the game sub-30, it's 30 with dips, that's it

 

[Bitstream]

Like I said, if millions of people think 30 is ok again it could be an argument for Nintendo to push for 30 DeepEnigma

focusing on what other devs and consolemakers are doing and using that for inspiration would be the antithesis of everything nintendo has been doing for the last 30 years.

 

[Shaki12345]

focusing on what other devs and consolemakers are doing and using that for inspiration would be the antithesis of everything nintendo has been doing for the last 30 years.

Let's hope you're right. This is a chance for Nintendo to ditch 30fps once and for all.

 

[rodrigolfp]

It wasn't tho, the game running 99% of the time at 30 basically locked then suddenly dipping some frames due to the use of ultra hand or any other skill doesn't make the game sub-30, it's 30 with dips, that's it

30 with dips should be something like 29,99999999999999999999999999999999 fps average, so sub-30.

 

[Kataploom]

30 with dips should be something like 29,99999999999999999999999999999999 fps average, so sub-30.

If only that's what people meant when they say sub-30, but they mean it barely sometimes reaches 30, which isn't true at all, if anything it maybe sometimes may dip below 30

 

[GigaBowser]

Let's hope you're right. This is a chance for Nintendo to ditch 30fps once and for all.

one day cyberpunk will gets 60 fps pach on switch 2 like series s aaaaand already better dlss image qualities game over

 

[Shaki12345]

one day cyberpunk will gets 60 fps pach on switch 2 like series s aaaaand already better dlss image qualities game over

I guess in your head anything is possible

 

[GigaBowser]

I guess in your head anything is possible

ahaha even made crud witcher 3 on switch waaaayy better made many patch

already derstsoy steem deck ps4 pro aaaannnnnd better dlss image qaulitis then crud fssr series s game over

 

[Deerock71]

"We thought it was going to be a super challenge, but in the end not that much."
Someone get GigaBowser in here.

 

[Redneckerz]

I guess in your head anything is possible

What's impossibru however is a well articulated sentence. Is it a spiel? Is this near-constant brainrot? Does it perform better when Gigabowser is docked or when he is handheld?

I don't know. But i also don't want to know.

 

[DeepEnigma]

It wasn't tho, the game running 99% of the time at 30 basically locked then suddenly dipping some frames due to the use of ultra hand or any other skill doesn't make the game sub-30, it's 30 with dips, that's it

It was sub 30.

 

[GigaBowser]

yes its all true i becamed famous when i winned poster of the year thank you my friends the spirit of gaming confirmed

 

[Shaki12345]

It was sub 30.

Not all the time. Game runs fine 95%.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Not all the time. Game runs fine 95%.

Which makes it sub 30.

 

[Shaki12345]

Which makes it sub 30.

Yes sometimes it's sub 30. So, on average it's about 29.8.

 

[GigaBowser]

totk best game all times i rate 10

when it is 60 i rate 10.1

 

[DeepEnigma]

Yes sometimes it's sub 30. So, on average it's about 29.8.

Which is sub 30, yes.

 

[ResilientBanana]

"We got it running at 16 x 9 resolution, then upscaled it"