DeathGuise
Member
Your trial starts Monday
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
IGN: How Hidden Nazi Symbols Were the Tip of a Toxic Iceberg at Life Is Strange Developer Deck Nine
- Status
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
Deck Nine when the Metacritic of the next Life is Strange comes out:
Dr. Claus
Banned
People are having a gaf at retards who think the number 18 is a Nazi number.
The fact that you can't seem to understand that and are trying to twist this around on others is very telling.
CLW
Member
deriks
4-Time GIF/Meme God
Definition of "evolving" is adapting to the place... They're doing the exact opposite, so they're not evolving into Kotaku, they're regressing
Oddvintagechap
Member
everyone that liked your comment is super smart unlike IGN, even tho youre doing the same shit you accuse them off. useless sensationalism.
It’s not that the number 18 is “racist”. It’s in combination with these other Nazi icons, that clearly 18 is a reference to Adolf Hitler. Someone in the team is clearly obsessed with adding constant AH references all over their games. That is mental.
But oh no someone is gonna cancel ur birthday. LOLZ. LMAO. HEHE.
CherryFalls
Banned
These era types are attached to the 24/7 political news cycle and social media, so they are constantly seeing propaganda and fear mongering, which will 100% effect your mental health negatively, and influence how you see things.
Nazi takeover should not be a daily concern of any normal person
Last edited:
Heart_Attack
Member
No one buys the Life is Strange games. Branding the series as the "gay" "woke" series is poison and burning money away. Square-Enix gets it, but not the woke. HILARIOUS.
RickSanchez
Member
Nydius
Member
Oh no, not two common numbers!
The horror!
The people claiming the numbers themselves are indicative of hate speech remind me of the morons 20-25 years ago who legitimately believed the band “311” were members of the Klan (because the 11th letter of the alphabet is K, and 3 of them = KKK).
People looking to be victims can find any meaning they want in anything to perform their mental gymnastics.
The horror!
The people claiming the numbers themselves are indicative of hate speech remind me of the morons 20-25 years ago who legitimately believed the band “311” were members of the Klan (because the 11th letter of the alphabet is K, and 3 of them = KKK).
People looking to be victims can find any meaning they want in anything to perform their mental gymnastics.
Last edited:
STARSBarry
Gold Member
Deck Nine when the Metacritic of the next Life is Strange comes out:
Got their victory jingle all ready for them
recursive
Member
What if it is 1 inch 18 times?
{insert code here}
Member
I mean, i guess you could have some small, minute, amount of pity in the sense that her ideas were probably not always her own. They were probably taught to her at a young age and, for whatever reason, she wasn't able to see those ideas play out to their logical conclusion. That if you hate men you're probably gonna spend the vast majority of your life alone with all the misery that comes along with that.
Putonahappyface
Gold Member
"marginalized individuals at the studio felt unsafe".
diffusionx
Gold Member
Realistically what did they expect management to do? They find the guy who made the art, say, "hey did you use the number 18 because you love Adolf Hitler?" "No". "OK you're fired"
I think this is a good post, let me signal that with a common hand gesture.
SJRB
Gold Member
Realistically what did they expect management to do? They find the guy who made the art, say, "hey did you use the number 18 because you love Adolf Hitler?" "No". "OK you're fired"
I think this is a good post, let me signal that with a common hand gesture.
I still can't believe how /b/ trolled literally the entire planet with this shit. Incredible.
cormack12
Gold Member
My favourite was when they tried to rebrand fashtags
Fashtag
The fashtag or Bash the Hash was an attempted right-wing troll campaign spawned in May 2019 by 4chan's /pol/ board. The campaign was intended to dupe The Media into believing that the hashtag is a fascist, alt-right, or hateful symbol. The campaign produced fake adverts, fake media coverage and...
The ol' angry inch. Works for me and I still get 50 bucks
Don't worry brother I understand how this works seeing how i'm not upset over this story like you . The irony in calling people retards while also thinking the issue is the literal numbers "1" "8" lmfao.
Dr. Claus
Banned
Then what is the issue? The *vast* majority of folks here are just having fun mocking the mentally deranged folks who immediately assume 18 is a nazi number. But no, you are right. Clearly all the people having a gaf are just actually upset.
I get that reading can be hard. But I trust that you can learn how to do it eventually.
They aren't real gamers, they just get paid cause it's ign.
kyussman
Member
Years ago if you read of someone feeling unsafe in their workplace you would think something pretty serious was going on that needed action......these days it could just mean someone wore the wrong coloured pair off socks to work and it offended a work mate......some people are so insane these days,I just take no notice of this stuff.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Hidden hate symbols are real: the problem is that they’re created specifically to blend in society to hide individuals true affiliation and as society at large discovers them they stop serving it’s purpose so they get renewed and the cycle begins but at the same time the older ones are still used - it’s a complicated cultural process and interpretation, specifically by people not part of the subculture tends to be error prone. Context matters, experience in dealing with individual from these cultures matter.
For example: 1-11 is used as a gang call sign on some Idaho prisons. Are you a cop looking for a member of that gang and you find and individual with a prison record in Idaho with a 1-11 tattooed? You’re in the ballpark. Some random dev scribbles a 1-11 in a road sign in a game? Who the fuck knows.
At the minimum you should have a list of what you don’t want in the game and if someone breaks the rules to put in known nazi symbols well, you know. But a simple accumulation? Is it nazi or is it someone’s inner Cartman? Or truely honest mistakes? Who knows.
For example: 1-11 is used as a gang call sign on some Idaho prisons. Are you a cop looking for a member of that gang and you find and individual with a prison record in Idaho with a 1-11 tattooed? You’re in the ballpark. Some random dev scribbles a 1-11 in a road sign in a game? Who the fuck knows.
At the minimum you should have a list of what you don’t want in the game and if someone breaks the rules to put in known nazi symbols well, you know. But a simple accumulation? Is it nazi or is it someone’s inner Cartman? Or truely honest mistakes? Who knows.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Objectively speaking, its extremely dubious to attach a political motivation to what might be a simple case of pranksterism without evidence.
I can easily imagine someone at the studio who pays lip-service to the demands of a highly ideological minority but inwardly finds them insufferable hiding stuff like this in assets just to stick it to them!
As per usual with woke-types and their supporters/enablers there's a complete absence (or perhaps avoidance) of consideration that they may be disliked on a multitude of grounds other than political ones. Personal conflict is never factored in, its always on an ideological plane - this is unequivocally improbable.
delfrickintree
Banned
Thats reasonable and everything but when you start using these new terms like "hate symbols" you begin creating that paradigm that evil is lurking on your doorstep. Just call it descriptive terms like gang affiliation, neo nazi, nambla, slenderman, etc. Nothing discredits an effort to raise awareness more than fear mongering. And as I hinted at earlier in the thread, many times when these symbols get found out and sensationalized, it turns out to be a hoax.
Dr. Claus
Banned
It must be tiring trying to find new ways to be offended every other day. To the point you have to try and associate numbers like 18 and 88 to have a reason to justify your hate and anger.
Last edited:
DryvBy
Member
These extreme loon terms instantly makes me not care. Dog whistle is another stupid term they think is brilliant.
Can we get a complete list on which numbers aren't neo-Nazi?
IlGialloMondadori
Member
Yeah guys, 88 being associated with neo-nazis is totally insane! I bet if I searched for “88 nazi tattoo” I wouldn’t get a single hit!
Oh…wait….pages and pages and pages of them.
Germany bans neo-Nazi group Combat 18 Deutschland | Germany | The Guardian
Country’s top security official says move is ‘clear message’ against far-right extremism
amp.theguardian.com
Just numbers and symbols guys! They could mean anything! Like sports numbers or like the year you were born! Everybody uses Germanic runes all the time, surely nothing to do with nazis.
Last edited:
Dr. Claus
Banned
Yeah guys, 88 being associated with neo-nazis is totally insane! I bet if I searched for “88 nazi tattoo” I wouldn’t get a single hit!
Oh…wait….pages and pages and pages of them.
Germany bans neo-Nazi group Combat 18 Deutschland | Germany | The Guardian
Country’s top security official says move is ‘clear message’ against far-right extremism
Just numbers and symbols guys! They could mean anything! Like sports numbers or like the year you were born! Everybody uses Germanic runes all the time, surely nothing to do with nazis.
Well shit, you convinced me. I couldn’t tell the man was a NeoNazi without that 88 in there. The other tattoos were just too subtle, but that 88? That was the clear confirmation I needed.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Good alternative reading of the article:
threadreaderapp.com
Basic points:
1. Narrative director was nice to his subordinates and tried to help them in their careers.
2. SJWs on staff were triggered that he didn't immediately kowtow to their demands and accept their ideas
3. Instead he chose to collaborate, discuss, get input, and then do his job and make a decision on the narrative.
4. SJWs retaliated by trying to get him fired and ruining his career.
5. The SJWs had no real evidence of his wrongdoing so they built their accusations around their feelings about him ("he didn't say or do anything inappropriate, but we were uncomfortable").
6. In spite of this they put out a well-regarded game.
7. Eventually the SJWs got their way and he left.
8. Company started to fall apart immediately after, while he is doing fine.
Closing point of op-ed (why people put these on X these days I do not know).
I don't know how you run a company these days built around telling stories, while also trying to make money.
Thread by @DanFriedman81 on Thread Reader App
@DanFriedman81: This is an incredible article, because it shows what happens if you are a woke white man. Deck Nine makes progressive games and its CCO, Zak Garriss believed in assembling a diverse narrative team. B...…
threadreaderapp.com
Basic points:
1. Narrative director was nice to his subordinates and tried to help them in their careers.
2. SJWs on staff were triggered that he didn't immediately kowtow to their demands and accept their ideas
3. Instead he chose to collaborate, discuss, get input, and then do his job and make a decision on the narrative.
4. SJWs retaliated by trying to get him fired and ruining his career.
5. The SJWs had no real evidence of his wrongdoing so they built their accusations around their feelings about him ("he didn't say or do anything inappropriate, but we were uncomfortable").
6. In spite of this they put out a well-regarded game.
7. Eventually the SJWs got their way and he left.
8. Company started to fall apart immediately after, while he is doing fine.
Closing point of op-ed (why people put these on X these days I do not know).
I don't know how you run a company these days built around telling stories, while also trying to make money.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Who knew Lindros was the biggest NHL Hitler ever. Captain too. Philadelphia Flying Nazis.
TransTrender
Gold Member
OH FUCK THEY GOT 14!Yeah guys, 88 being associated with neo-nazis is totally insane! I bet if I searched for “88 nazi tattoo” I wouldn’t get a single hit!
Oh…wait….pages and pages and pages of them.
Germany bans neo-Nazi group Combat 18 Deutschland | Germany | The Guardian
Country’s top security official says move is ‘clear message’ against far-right extremism
Just numbers and symbols guys! They could mean anything! Like sports numbers or like the year you were born! Everybody uses Germanic runes all the time, surely nothing to do with nazis.
NOT 14!!!!!
Moriarty1889
Member
Exactly. These people are pussies. So afraid and so offended by anything and everything. I would put more numbers and other things deemed offensive by them so they would piss off and leave. People like that are a plague and why everything is so screwed up in society today. Meet them head on and don’t ever let up or cave to their bullshit. That is how you will eventually rid society of them. You have to be pretty weak minded and pathetic to let a number make you feel ‘unsafe’. Pathetic.
But isn't it in HEBREW where letters/words also have numeric value?
Damn nazis are culturally appropriating!!! Now THAT'S where I draw the line!!!
But seriously, the "88" thing I have seen before, not so much "18". Or the swirly thing for pedo stuff, seems like just an easy to add abstract design for a bit of texture on a model, but apparently it's a pretty legit thing.
I just bought a door hanger that looks like a pineapple to use when I'm on vacation in hotels , I hear it means "housekeeping come back tomorrow"
th4tguy
Member
True. You needed other context to make that connection. The number 88 by itself is not enough.
Well shit, you convinced me. I couldn’t tell the man was a NeoNazi without that 88 in there. The other tattoos were just too subtle, but that 88? That was the clear confirmation I needed.
The studio found other nazi symbolism hidden in the code and art as well though. That’s what is being communicated. That’s why it’s so dumb that everyone in this thread is just focused on a number and not the bigger picture.
It’s the equivalent of looking at the tattoos on this guys arm and making the same comments about 88 or 18.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
don’t be wilfully stupid and ignorant. It’s not complicated. There were a couple of trolls on the team checking in shit that was white power shit and snickering about it and it was getting deleted.OH FUCK THEY GOT 14!
NOT 14!!!!!
There is such a thing as context. You know that. Don’t play an idiot. If someone said their kid was 14, that’s one thing. If someone has 14/88, a swastika and fucking lightning bolts, they’re Nazis.
Jinzo Prime
Gold Member
Today I Learned: Europeans are afraid of basic numbers.
Interfectum
Member
Dr. Claus
Banned
Nah. If people have a swastika and SS imagery, they are Nazis. Simple as.
You seriously need to lay off the drugs and conspiracy theories, mate. Or are you going to tell me that apple juice is secretly a nazi symbol as well?
Last edited:
RoboFu
One of the green rats
Nah what's dumb is the context that OF COURSE that dev would be the ones crying about such things and that a place like ign is covering this fantasy story. It's completely ridiculous all around even if there was a shred of truth to it there is no " OMG !! We are unsafe! Poor us! " aspect to it. It's akin to high schoolers drawing penises in the girls bathroom. Even less so.
Last edited:
Angry_Megalodon
Member
May I see footage of the game with those symbols in it so we get the context?
Someone replied with statements from the studio but still no evidence of such allegations. And no, I am not believing those till I see them with my own eyes.
What is dumb is to discuss something nobody has seen and give these people the benefit of the doubt. It's crazy to presume that this is real and nobody took a pic or print screen.
IlGialloMondadori
Member
So this dude is just a fat basketball fan saluting his bros that likes the number 88?
Last edited:
IlGialloMondadori
Member
So I agree about not having seen anything. There’s no public evidence, and the push on the lead writer for certain things seems silly.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Patrick Kane Hitlering on 3 different teams. Must be a lifetime Nazi fan.
NeoIkaruGAF
Gold Member
If you swapped hidden hate symbols for hidden Illuminati symbols, everyone would scoff at this and dismiss all of this as conspiracy theory drivel. Except for, you know, people into conspiracy theories. Or, in this case, people who feel unsafe if they dream that someone stepped on their shadow, and try to sue and cancel that someone in real life for “microaggressions” or something.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked