I'm becoming convinced that games are a tool to pacify us

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Zathalus said:
How can mirrors be real if our eyes aren't real?

You have a point that video games can be very addicting and will adversely impact some people, especially gacha, but you swerve into crazy territory with your claims that the "elites" are using it to control the masses.
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Has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
 
Of course its not something as productive or useful as you'd like, but thats why you have to have moderation. Dont let it take away too much time from the more important things in life.
 
Sebastian1295 said:
I disagree. I think video games are played by alot of people who suffer from depression and used as an escape from there real life. Going to work 4 to 5 days a week in a place you don't wanna be and dealing with asshole bosses, employees, and customers can wear you down and destroy you mentally. So people like to go home and game on there consoles or pc's to try and forget about there shit job or shit life because they need something to hold onto and get them through there day. Mental health as a society isn't taken seriously, and people try coping with it by gaming, drinking, doing drugs, etc and it's leading to the collapse of alot of people sadly.
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Maybe we ought to build a world where you don't have to spend most of time your time doing work that you hate for people you don't like. Feels like society is creating an unhealthy situation and then selling us the means to cope with it, rather than just, you know, building a social structure that doesn't make half of us terminally depressed.
 
Your logic can be applied to any other kinds of entertainment. All of them "distract" people from babysitting with 10 children and barefoot pregnant wife.
 
All i care about is enjoying my life. I don't give a shit about leaving a legacy or if other people contribute to society more than i do. I have one life and if you ask me it's way too short already, I'll prioritize my enjoyment of life over what's been arbitrarily considered to be the important.

So no, video games don't steer me away from my goals because my goal is to enjoy life.

What even is your goal in life? Because it really sounds like what you really want is to become the people you're criticizing.
 
You make a few decent points, mainly about the addictive properties, but that applies to many things in life and everyone is already aware of it.

Where you start sounding like a crackpot is this nebulous collective "they", there's no boogeyman out to get you bruv; seek help if you truly believe this.
 
Himuro said:
I want to say that I love video games. I also want to say I'm not an addict or anything. I can go weeks or months without playing games. I fell out of love with games in my 20's. I still play them but I understand their limitations.

So yeah, I love games every now and then for a treat.

Which is why it pains me to say I think I'm becoming anti-video games and not just super into them.

I have some business to do (graphics for project, figure drawing samples for art school application;etc) and yet during my time off and not working my brain goes back to Resident Evil 1 Remake, which I started a new game of.

I am becoming wholly convinced that games help pacify men and steer us from our goals. Rather than being useful and doing important things in your downtime like the men of the past did, we wind down with video games. Many gamers cope by saying "that's no different than tv" but I don't really think about tv in my off hours. Games are unique in that you hit goals within the game. In REmake's case, it's solving puzzles, avoiding zombies, limiting crimson heads, resource management. The video game hijacks your brain dopamine so that when you've had a successful session you feel as if you've done a good job even though it's not something real or tangible. Afterwards I feel depleted and can't get to work on things that are tied to my actual goals because it's easier to achieve a goal within the game. No. Instead, my brain goes back to the game. Even during a walk I'm thinking about puzzle solving and doing the ultimate run of REmake.

I'm convinced the elite uses porn and video games to pacify men. Utterly convinced of it. Why go out and meet women when you've got porn? Why go out and do your own adventures when you've got video games? I started sailing as a hobby and it's nothing like sailing in a video game.

Since I have high aspirations I'm not sure what this means about my future relationship with video games. I'm still half convinced to sell my entire collection (goes as far back as SNES, Genesis). I'm still on the fence.

The more time passes the more I am fully convinced games are no different than porn. Just like porn isn't real love video games aren't real...anything and yet both manage to hijack your dopamine like nothing else. In a way tv, social media, books, whatever else don't seem to do.
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You make some good points about games being additive. I sometimes put on a game and feel guilty that I could be doing something more productive, which is not something I think when I read a book or watch a film.

However, you then dive off the deep end with the conspiracy about porn and games being tools to pacify men.
 
Stay away from GAAS, MMORPG and such. Those carry an outsized risk of fucking up your life.
 
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Not sure I agree with everything OP is saying, but I like the direction of travel. I think it's right to ask who benefits from the current status quo and why so many of us are spending so much time and energy just trying to keep our heads above water. To wonder if it's right that in most technologically advanced civilisations in human history, we should spend so much of our spare time just trying to maintain a basic level of happiness. Hitting the gym and planning vacations, Meditating and marathon running. Digitally detoxing and intermittently fasting. Switching our brains off and self-diagnosing.

Doesn't have to be a conspiracy theory to recognise that in market capitalism, it makes sense to create a product that helps you manage a shitty situation over time, than empower you to change the situation permanently.
 
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Himuro said:
Do you think the owners of video game companies that party on yachts, have globe trotting vacations, and have billionaire businesses are spending their free time playing video games?
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The managers, producers, accountants, marketers, lawyers and investors? Maybe less so. The ones who actually make the games? Of course.

Humans seek out entertainment, they always have. And such entertainment is usually created by people who are similarly enthusiastic about it for that very reason.

Too much cynicism isn't good for you.
 
Do you value your time like I do? I mean every minute in your life is fruitful/rewarding and doesn't go to waste, cause I found that if I value time "for example being healthy because of my knowledge therefor I don't need to go to the hospital quite often cause I found that in the past disrespectful to my body and time", I've also found being clueless increases the chance of being wasted and relying on people quite often.
 
Himuro said:
I think they're trying to pacify us because of the following reasons:

1. cost of living.
2. healthcare costs
3. average person no longer has access to buying a home
4. stagnant wages

It's essentially capitalism.

So they wrap up different products for entertainment, either video games or social media (you), or porn, whatever.

If not for video games, porn, and social media I truly think they'd fear for a revolution. They don't want the United Healthcare CEO assassination to be widespread.

As for gamers, yeah. Gamers are willing to defend paying 80-90 dollars for fucking Mario Kart. They're a gaggle of addicts. Truth hurts, though.

Bread and circuses, friend. Bread and circuses.
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I don't think anyone is trying to pacify us, it's just that entertainment makes money. It's capitalism, nothing more than that.
 
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You believe the elite are using media and art to pacify you and by extent the population. By designing and producing media like games, music, movies and other forms of entertainment as products to be consumed addictively rather than pieces of art, and in the long term the detrimental effect being pacifying the population and inhibit critical thinking.

Congratulations, this is called the culture industry, a popular theory and critique developed by Adorno and Horkheimer belonging to a legacy of Marxist thinkers.
 
Hello Andrew Tate hope your doing well.

Real though, most of this shit is to keep us soft headed, look at all these shit films they try feed us, junk TV, trash mind numbing adverts on the radio/tv, social media reels ect.

As long as you know what there doing you should be ok, balance your time best you can, if you enjoy games still play them just dont let them play you 💪🟢.
 
Maybe you just don't like video games as much you think you do and every time you play you feel like you could be doing something more worthy of your time.

You probably used to enjoy them a lot, but then you started doing other things you enjoy more.


Everything is made to "pacify" us... We all will die, so we cope with that by doing whatever gives us enjoyment.

There's no hobby which is better or worse, just do whatever you enjoy more.*

*Obviously within the laws of society... Don't become a serial killer or some other shit... Ok?

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Sebastian1295 said:
I disagree. I think video games are played by alot of people who suffer from depression and used as an escape from there real life. Going to work 4 to 5 days a week in a place you don't wanna be and dealing with asshole bosses, employees, and customers can wear you down and destroy you mentally. So people like to go home and game on there consoles or pc's to try and forget about there shit job or shit life because they need something to hold onto and get them through there day. Mental health as a society isn't taken seriously, and people try coping with it by gaming, drinking, doing drugs, etc and it's leading to the collapse of alot of people sadly.
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This is true but on the other hand sometimes I think that if half the time I passed playing videogames had been spent doing something to elevate my life I'd probably be in a better spot.

I'm not a boomer in that regard, I think gaming is awesome and it is an hobby that makes your brain work and not rot, but still the dopamine aspect of it makes me feel guilty from time to time.
 
I'm not sure about pacify us, but they sure as hell are not as good as entertaining us like they use too and definitely are made to fleece us of every penny we've got or haven't got as the case may be.
 
I feel you. I uninstalled 1.5TB worth of stuff one night. And then installed CONTROL and Division 2 a week later for Sundays.

If you are already achieved your goals games are amazing. Otherwise not so much. Way too good an escape.
 
I had one teacher in high school that had those same ideas but for TV, that it's a tool to pacify masses so you certainly don't feel like getting off your ass and go learn things or god forbid manifest with peoples outside, no time for that there's Seinfeld coming in to 15 mins!
 
Himuro said:
I want to say that I love video games. I also want to say I'm not an addict or anything. I can go weeks or months without playing games. I fell out of love with games in my 20's. I still play them but I understand their limitations.

So yeah, I love games every now and then for a treat.

Which is why it pains me to say I think I'm becoming anti-video games and not just super into them.

I have some business to do (graphics for project, figure drawing samples for art school application;etc) and yet during my time off and not working my brain goes back to Resident Evil 1 Remake, which I started a new game of.

I am becoming wholly convinced that games help pacify men and steer us from our goals. Rather than being useful and doing important things in your downtime like the men of the past did, we wind down with video games. Many gamers cope by saying "that's no different than tv" but I don't really think about tv in my off hours. Games are unique in that you hit goals within the game. In REmake's case, it's solving puzzles, avoiding zombies, limiting crimson heads, resource management. The video game hijacks your brain dopamine so that when you've had a successful session you feel as if you've done a good job even though it's not something real or tangible. Afterwards I feel depleted and can't get to work on things that are tied to my actual goals because it's easier to achieve a goal within the game. No. Instead, my brain goes back to the game. Even during a walk I'm thinking about puzzle solving and doing the ultimate run of REmake.

I'm convinced the elite uses porn and video games to pacify men. Utterly convinced of it. Why go out and meet women when you've got porn? Why go out and do your own adventures when you've got video games? I started sailing as a hobby and it's nothing like sailing in a video game.

Since I have high aspirations I'm not sure what this means about my future relationship with video games. I'm still half convinced to sell my entire collection (goes as far back as SNES, Genesis). I'm still on the fence.

The more time passes the more I am fully convinced games are no different than porn. Just like porn isn't real love video games aren't real...anything and yet both manage to hijack your dopamine like nothing else. In a way tv, social media, books, whatever else don't seem to do.
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You need to get outside. Go for a walk. Try fishing or hiking. Something. Anything to get you back in touch with reality
 
All entertainment pretty much is that, including sports. Bread and circuses. It's a pretty old concept. But it is true that entertainment is in a huge surplus now with algorithms designed to weave their way into endless use. Multiple political commentators have pointed this out, noting that we probably would have seen mass uprising a long time ago if not for social media, Netflix, video games. You see similar concepts with Cyberpunk sci-fi or Gladiator, but it's now cranked to 100. And the entertainment now is also not usually social, so it also isolates and fragments people, further preventing social cohesion or organic political movements. It's pretty much my main argument against the "US is going to have a civil war" rants you see sometimes. People are still too comfortable to do that, so there's pros and cons I suppose.
 
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Buggy Loop said:
I had one teacher in high school that had those same ideas but for TV, that it's a tool to pacify masses so you certainly don't feel like getting off your ass and go learn things or god forbid manifest with peoples outside, no time for that there's Seinfeld coming in to 15 mins!
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If the last few months have taught us anything, it's that there is no higher power or hidden system to protect/suppress society. Selling product makes you money, so you want to make good product - games, TV or otherwise.
 
I agree OP all i used to do was jack off 24-7 i was addicted to porn. I stopped doing this and now i have a high functioning management job to pay for hookers and blow. Never touching myself again.
 
Himuro said:
I want to say that I love video games. I also want to say I'm not an addict or anything. I can go weeks or months without playing games. I fell out of love with games in my 20's. I still play them but I understand their limitations.

So yeah, I love games every now and then for a treat.

Which is why it pains me to say I think I'm becoming anti-video games and not just super into them.

I have some business to do (graphics for project, figure drawing samples for art school application;etc) and yet during my time off and not working my brain goes back to Resident Evil 1 Remake, which I started a new game of.

I am becoming wholly convinced that games help pacify men and steer us from our goals. Rather than being useful and doing important things in your downtime like the men of the past did, we wind down with video games. Many gamers cope by saying "that's no different than tv" but I don't really think about tv in my off hours. Games are unique in that you hit goals within the game. In REmake's case, it's solving puzzles, avoiding zombies, limiting crimson heads, resource management. The video game hijacks your brain dopamine so that when you've had a successful session you feel as if you've done a good job even though it's not something real or tangible. Afterwards I feel depleted and can't get to work on things that are tied to my actual goals because it's easier to achieve a goal within the game. No. Instead, my brain goes back to the game. Even during a walk I'm thinking about puzzle solving and doing the ultimate run of REmake.

I'm convinced the elite uses porn and video games to pacify men. Utterly convinced of it. Why go out and meet women when you've got porn? Why go out and do your own adventures when you've got video games? I started sailing as a hobby and it's nothing like sailing in a video game.

Since I have high aspirations I'm not sure what this means about my future relationship with video games. I'm still half convinced to sell my entire collection (goes as far back as SNES, Genesis). I'm still on the fence.

The more time passes the more I am fully convinced games are no different than porn. Just like porn isn't real love video games aren't real...anything and yet both manage to hijack your dopamine like nothing else. In a way tv, social media, books, whatever else don't seem to do.
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OP is right in the sense that the concept of Tittytainment, forged by Brzezinski, was developed by the elites to pacify dissent.

"To address the discontentment of those at the bottom, there is only one approach — simply place a pacifier in their mouths, divert their attention, paralyze their cognitive faculties, and induce a state of contentment with the current status quo."

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It's funny, if there is someone who anti game, coming here and told us that video games are bad.
dude, I learnt half of my life from video games, even i learnt english from video games...
 
I agree 100% with you on the porn part

Porn is a weapon and is used almost exclusively to exploit us for monetary gain and further, the studied have been done and concur almost exclusively that it damages your brain over the long term, the severity depending on the age you discover it.

It turns human intimacy into a product. It turns people, especially women, into consumables.
And it turns users (mainly men) into addicts.

Porn doesn't stay on a screen either because it trains us to expect real women to act like porn actresses, detached, degraded, and constantly available. You may be intelligent enough to see through it, but we like what we like, and if that is influenced we can not stop it unless we stop porn entirely and even then the damage is likely already done. It causes users to constantly want "more" and more "extreme" artificial stimulation to get the same rush. We see the effects every day. Nature didn't design sex to be cheapened or treated like a product. Once you are into fripple anal fisting and bdsm tranny dom thats it, you are stuck like that 🤣

This has led unquestionably to a spike in violence, abuse, and disconnection in real-world relationships.

Porn makes men weak. It kills drive, darkens the soul, and makes them spectators in life.
It drains ambition, hijacks attention, and slowly rots the will. It destroys what makes a man a man in my humble opinion...

the real conspiracy begins when you look into the rabbit hole of who owns, controls and distributes the porn. I will leave the result of that research upon to you, but lets just say it is absolutely not a coincidence.

 
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Nocty said:
the real conspiracy begins when you look into the rabbit hole of who owns, controls and distributes the porn. I will leave the result of that research upon to you, but lets just say it is absolutely not a coincidence.
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