I'm using Vista for the first time and so far it sucks. Tips for better performance?
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Here's a good article on how to improve Vista's performance.
fistfulofmetal
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BlueTsunami
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fistfulofmetal said:
Yes
Shit, I would just download one of the newer builds they have out (torrent). Its what I've been using.
Iron_Scimitar
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fistfulofmetal said:
Powerful post.
change to ubuntu lolololololololololol
Why won't you install Win7 RC meanwhile? The taskbar takes some time to get used to and if you come from XP is kind of wasted time to get your way around Vista first and then around W7.
Meanwhile, I remember there was some problems with the priorities on Vista, if you were running something the network got a lower priority thus making it sometimes blocked, but I guess that was patched a really looong time ago. So update everything first, uninstall everything that they installed on it and start from there. If it's still slow....well jump to w7 or get a free-from-bullshit vista disc and install it with your key.
Why won't you install Win7 RC meanwhile? The taskbar takes some time to get used to and if you come from XP is kind of wasted time to get your way around Vista first and then around W7.
Meanwhile, I remember there was some problems with the priorities on Vista, if you were running something the network got a lower priority thus making it sometimes blocked, but I guess that was patched a really looong time ago. So update everything first, uninstall everything that they installed on it and start from there. If it's still slow....well jump to w7 or get a free-from-bullshit vista disc and install it with your key.
Himuro said:
Download it here for free
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/evalcenter/dd353205.aspx
You'll need a Windows Live ID to do it.
ClosingADoor
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Don't know a solution for the specific problem, but I recommend uninstalling most of the crap Asus put on it. Check your msconfig also to disable programs from starting up that you don't need. And disable UAC to get rid of those annoying alert messages.
Himuro said:
Personally, I've had zero problems with Vista. In fact, I would so far as to say it's by far the best Windows operating system on the market.
Also, in regards to Windows 7, you can still sign up to get the RC. The download size is pretty small too, only 2GB.
Since you've just got it, I would recommend a reinstall of Windows.
Save all the stuff you need since we are going to delete everything.
Copy the license key you have for Vista on the bottom of your notebook.
Then, reinstall Vista from a standard Vista DVD (not OEM or reinstallation DVD). All DVDs have the installation files for all versions. You want to do a custom reinstall and delete all the partitions.
Update everything to SP2.
You should be rolling then.
I wouldn't recommend Windows 7 RC since it does have a few quirks.
In the bigger picture, it protects you since remote users cannot answer this query if they want to do administrative changes. Windows 7 nags less.
Save all the stuff you need since we are going to delete everything.
Copy the license key you have for Vista on the bottom of your notebook.
Then, reinstall Vista from a standard Vista DVD (not OEM or reinstallation DVD). All DVDs have the installation files for all versions. You want to do a custom reinstall and delete all the partitions.
Update everything to SP2.
You should be rolling then.
I wouldn't recommend Windows 7 RC since it does have a few quirks.
Himuro said:
In the bigger picture, it protects you since remote users cannot answer this query if they want to do administrative changes. Windows 7 nags less.
Zoramon089
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I dunno, some of the thread creator problem sounds like issue with compatibility, meaning not Vista sucking but the thread creator sucking at using Vista...
All right ask and report back.Himuro said:
When you do the reinstall, don't touch the driver utility CD. Most, if not all, your drivers can be otained through Windows Update (via ethernet). If your ethernet doesn't work on start, then you should try installing the ethernet driver only first then go through windows update to obtain the rest.
smallmouth
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I don't know if they patched it, but Vista used to auto-tune the connection that sometimes caused problems.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/934430
Azwethinkweiz
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Standard Vista installations don't work with OEM keys. You need to use the recovery discs.
jonnybryce
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Really? I've never had that problem.
Azwethinkweiz
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It didn't work with mine. Maybe it depends on the brand. I had an Acer laptop.
Rentahamster
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Are you using wireless internet? If you are, you may be victim of a stupid Vista bug that deals with the DHCP broadcast flag.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233
You can try google around for more workarounds.
Alternatively, the power management settings may be turning off your wireless connection to save power.
You could try this:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Wi...cf-0698-41ba-b014-ea0a2eb8d0a81033.mspx#EYJAC
Or perhaps some of the crap that came bundled in with the laptop is messing up your shit.
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233
You can try google around for more workarounds.
Alternatively, the power management settings may be turning off your wireless connection to save power.
You could try this:
http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Wi...cf-0698-41ba-b014-ea0a2eb8d0a81033.mspx#EYJAC
Or perhaps some of the crap that came bundled in with the laptop is messing up your shit.
claviertekky said:
If you got were able to install Vista using a Vista SP2 disk with an OEM key from Gateway, that's a lucky fluke. Proprietary OEM installs are specifically built to only accept the OEM keys for that particular build.
Some OEM versions (not sure about ASUS) allow you to do a stock reinstall without installing the drivers, bloatware, etc. Just have to wade through the recovery options. I have done it on Sony, Dell, and HP machines for Vista, which proved being the solution every time. After initial OS install, just install factory drivers from their site which you smartfully downloaded already just in case your NIC drivers aren't supported natively. Do your updates and only use vendor drivers for hardware.
You then have a fresh Vista install instead of one violated by a factory image install. If ASUS recovery doesn't have a customizable install, you are pretty much stuck with manual tweaking and removal. There are a ton of guides out there on how to do this.
Considering Win 7 drops October 22, I'd suggest what has already been mentioned. Just get the RC of 7 before the cutoff date in August and put that on it. Then use your Win 7 freebie when it releases.
A desktop in my house sometimes loses the wireless connection in a way that sounds similar to your own problem. The connection is always there, so I can reconnect it, but its weird that it doesn't stay connected.
Curiously enough, my laptop, and all the other computers in the house, all of them running Vista, never lose the connection.
No clue what could be causing this. Do you have your Microsoft update thingy set to automatic download and install?
Curiously enough, my laptop, and all the other computers in the house, all of them running Vista, never lose the connection.
No clue what could be causing this. Do you have your Microsoft update thingy set to automatic download and install?
Reseil said:
This junior is wise beyond his post count. Specifically, Microsoft have screwed me over a fair few times due to this (retail discs won't work with OEM keys, nor do MSDN discs, etc).
OP, it does sound like you got the computer preinstalled with Vista, in which case it's maybe not right that you suddenly heap all the blame on the OS. PC's are finicky things and imo Vista was fine under the hood, let down by some staggeringly poor UI choices. That said, if I were you I'd just follow the overpowering advice in this thread and grab the Win7 RC for free before it's too late, you won't look back.
ChoklitReign
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http://www.winvistaclub.com/Ultimate_Windows_Tweaker.html
I use this. Vista really ain't bad. It has lots of features that make going back to XP feel archaic.
I use this. Vista really ain't bad. It has lots of features that make going back to XP feel archaic.
Reseil said:
What? It's not a fluke at all.
This was a problem with Windows XP.
Dougald said:
No that's not true at all. You can't give him credit for that. You don't know either! It works fine with OEMs. That's what Vista was supposed to solve when released compared to XP.
Here's something I pulled up easily.
http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-vista/81097-reinstalling-vista-oem.html
I've had issues with a few things in Windows 7, specifically with the Broadcom wireleess B/G and the Intel 2200B drivers. Those drivers have issues finding networks from boot/sleep.
Reseil said:
This was true for Windows XP. However, it's not the same for Vista or 7. You're just installing more bloatware than you need to and adding useless uninstaller entries.
Before these steps go to each hardware manufacturers website and download the latest drivers in the case that Windows does not automaitcally install them.
1. Format
2. Fresh install of Vista off of a regular Vista DVD not OEM or repair
3. Disable UAC
4. Run msconfig and turn off any unneeded software
5. Update to SP2
After this Vista should run as good if not better than XP.
1. Format
2. Fresh install of Vista off of a regular Vista DVD not OEM or repair
3. Disable UAC
4. Run msconfig and turn off any unneeded software
5. Update to SP2
After this Vista should run as good if not better than XP.
My own experiences. I've worked and fixed many people's computers.Dougald said:
You want the internet? Here's one: http://www.windowsbbs.com/windows-vista/81097-reinstalling-vista-oem.html
I don't understand the hate for UAC here.
UAC on gives you full control of your computer. Why would an action require elevated action? This is just an administrative alert. This should be very rare occurence.
Your folder permissions must be set wrong then if you see this a lot. What exactly are you doing?
Otherwise, with UAC off, you don't know what the hell things are being installed behind your back, and then you come back whining here on the forum shouting I have malware threads.
claviertekky said:
It may work for some but it is a lucky fluke, I guarantee it. I'm saying that through experience of doing laptop repair work (as a job, not "for people"), and needing a proper OEM disc from customers. Sometimes it will work, but I've experienced firsthand that many OEMs require a proper disc. Just because you've never come across it, doesn't mean that it does not happen (believe me I've had some right headaches thanks to it).
That link also mentioned nothing about using a Windows CD not provided by the OEM, unless I missed a trick.
I do laptop repair work as a part time job.Dougald said:
Yes, that was the case for Windows XP. I have not experienced it for Vista. I still don't think it's a "lucky fluke" as you put it.
There was one thing about the Gateway installation. I had to telephone to validate my key. Otherwise, it wouldn't validate over the internet because it was telling me the CD Key Type cannot be validated through there.
I'm reading that of the CoA, the Windows authenticity sticker that's on the bottom of the laptop is on there, you ARE allowed to reinstall using a GENERIC Vista DVD.
That settles it.
Full-time, but I digress: this is a mistake you only make once, and it entireley depends on the manufacturer as to whether you'll experience it. Different OEMs have different rules & some are more lenient than others. I believe it was Toshiba who were giving me problems, but I may have been wrong.
Interesting to know that Gateway puts that on the bottom of the machine, though. I'll have to keep a lookout for that (I've since moved back to supporting users within a company, corporate license keys make everything much easier)
Interesting to know that Gateway puts that on the bottom of the machine, though. I'll have to keep a lookout for that (I've since moved back to supporting users within a company, corporate license keys make everything much easier)
Edit: I can edit my post every 10 seconds too! ;-)
TheHeretic
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Vista is bullshit. I know its not what you are asking for but get Windows 7. Seriously.
evil solrac v3.0
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vista is fine, it's the people that are bullshit. there, i said it.
2 Minutes Turkish
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Wait for Windows 7?
claviertekky said:
This was not a problem, it was designed that way to prevent OS piracy. This still applies to Vista and will apply to Windows 7. Large manufacturers like Sony, HP, and Dell have proprietary builds that are customized to their hardware specifications. When you get one of these OEM installs, the product key you have is tied to that specific build. While that key will work on any of the same OEM install discs, it will not work with any other build without the aid of a 3rd party application, which breaks your EULA.
claviertekky said:
This is a link to a generic response on how to reinstall using an existing OEM copy of Vista. This makes no mention of using a standard install disc with an OEM key from a different vendor.
claviertekky said:
Yes it does, you required a manual key provided from M$ to get the Vista SP2 install to accept the OEM key since they were incompatible. You did not perform a successful install of Vista with only the SP2 disc and a factory OEM key. Activation required a completely different manually generated key. Not a big deal, but it clarifies things.
claviertekky said:
I've seen the same thing actually, wireless connections on Win 7 for certain manufacturers seem to be flaky. Seems to be limited to laptops, not seen any issues with wireless NICs installed on desktops. I'm sure we will get some resolve on this before launch of 7, would be foolish to RTM without finalizing some of these connectivity problems.
All that aside, Vista is solid in it's current state with a clean install and proper system maintenance. The only thing is OP will have to reinstall regardless when he gets his prod version of Win 7. The only choice is to use Win 7 until then.. which really isn't a choice.
Vista UAC is annoying as hell. I'm no fan of Symantec products but have found this Vista User Account Control from the Norton labs very good.
A few other sites I've found useful when setting up Vista for myself and others ....
Twelve unnecessary Vista features to disable
Speed Up the Performance of Vista
Black Viper
A few other sites I've found useful when setting up Vista for myself and others ....
Twelve unnecessary Vista features to disable
Speed Up the Performance of Vista
Black Viper
Having to go over and repair a family friends computer, the reason most people hate vista is because they have it in its basic untweaked state, plus all the additional shit they installed. Why do you need AIM/Messanger/3 other chat programs, norton (omg what a resource hog), and a ton of other shit that starts up when the machine is booted. My vista rig is perfectly fine, and their machine was taking 4 mins to boot :lol
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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I don't need to have anything installed to have Vista spin that blue/green wheel at me all the time.rhfb said:
Going back to XP was worlds of difference, and then putting Windows 7 on that formerly XP machine was even better.
Even if Vista was just as fast as XP, what exactly does it add or improve that necessitates defending it? I couldn't find any killer features for it that seemed worth the loading times. 7 has plenty of immediately visible new features that justify it.
Reseil said:
No. The OEM key was the sticker on the bottom. It was a successful install. Activation does not generate a different key. It's based on the product key you entered for installation.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
You people are the reason why Vista will be labeled "LOLOLOL JUST AS BAD AS WINDOWS ME." Such a misnomer.
Vista SP2 is actually decent and solid. The fact that it has UAC makes it much more secure than XP.
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