the_firewithin
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As a batman fan my tits will not be calm
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Imma let you finish, but Captain America has the greatest rogue's gallery of ALL TIME
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Beast was wrong and Wolverine held that grudge for way too long, but I hesitate to call Cyclops right. He's way too eager to pick a fight and Messed with the Phoenix when he should know better than anyone the threat it entails.
PhoenixDark
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You can't have the best rogue gallery in comics if the average person can only name one of your villains.
Batman and Spider-Man have the best rogue galleries. And the X-Men if groups count.
Batman and Spider-Man have the best rogue galleries. And the X-Men if groups count.
TwEE-N-Toast
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It's sad that villains actually have to achieve something before people appreciate them. I love the shit out of the b and c list villains. Especially Spider-Man's.
I forgot he did the decrepit vampire Lord there. Great as usual, guy can act
Even tho he also did this...
Easily one of the worst movies ever
Hot Coldman
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Is Taskmaster a mutant? Can Marvel use him in a film?
Manmademan
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popularity and quality are two very different things, PD. There are loads of amazing comics and arcs that the average person has never heard of!
Taskmaster is not a mutant. Marvel can (and really, really should) use him as they see fit.
No but he's tied to Deadpool iirc who is tied to xmen. I think marvel can use him though.
They should make
from Agents of SHIELD turn into Taskmaster.
you're right, but no need to shit on the Cap.
mind yourself.
do you watch Flash? i have a feeling the show is gonna make a lot of people feel very differently...
Grant Ward
you're right, but no need to shit on the Cap.
mind yourself.
do you watch Flash? i have a feeling the show is gonna make a lot of people feel very differently...
Hot Coldman
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This should absolutely happen. I would watch a Taskmaster TV show, if they can't fit him in a film
Manmademan
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Tasky isn't tied to deadpool at all. Deadpool has been using him lately, but his origins were solidly Avengers/Captain America/Daredevil/etc
The Silver
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mess with the Phoenix? he wanted the opposite, he just wanted the phoenix to come and do its thing(he was right about what it was trying to do), the Avengers(Iron Man) are the ones who messed with the Phoenix
Ah I stand corrected then
Manmademan
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Taskmaster has some absolutely amazingly ridiculous fights. He's a really fun character.
edit: I've always loved this one
Taskmaster and Elektra are in combat, Tasky is switching styles on her trying to find something that will work. He switches to Daredevil, which throws Elektra (who had been dating Daredevil recently) just enough to give him an opening to defeat her.
Thing is, to do this Taskmaster has to shut his eyes, because DD is blind and apparently fights that way- But Taskmaster has no radar sense. He's literally fighting and defeating elektra completely blind there.
All Cyclops did in AvX was rant about how he planned to to use the Phoenix to revive the mutant population. But the second he has the power to do just that, Scott goes on a crusade to show how much better a Mutant-led world would be. In the end, the Avengers helped Hope bring the Mutants back.
Huh I had no idea of his relationship with Shield. Think I need to read up on him I've only really experienced him through cameos.
All the bad things Scott did and it was Beast who got a house call from The Watcher telling him how fucked he is.
The Silver
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I don't really care to get in to all that right now(I've talked about it enough), all I wanted to make clear was Cyclops didn't mess with the Phoenix
I don't recall finding out the Phoenix was coming to earth to restore the mutant population. Cyclops was much more wrong than he was close to being right.
- Hope definitely wasn't ready for the Phoenix when it actually showed up
- It wasn't just a mutant issue, it was a clear threat to the entire planet
- He thought they could control it
I thought they were only able to restore the planet's mutants once Hope was trained, and even then she needed the help of scarlet witch. The avengers definitely needlessly escalated everything though.
- Hope definitely wasn't ready for the Phoenix when it actually showed up
- It wasn't just a mutant issue, it was a clear threat to the entire planet
- He thought they could control it
I thought they were only able to restore the planet's mutants once Hope was trained, and even then she needed the help of scarlet witch. The avengers definitely needlessly escalated everything though.
Manmademan
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Err...those are okay OP. Definitely not as good as Batman's or Spiderman's or X-Men's nemesis though.
This actually made me admire Marvel's casting ability for being able to turn Cap and his nemesis into something that I'd want to watch. Even their casting for Crossbones and Von Strucker are inspired.
He should have been Jack Driscoll in that Peter Jackson's remake of "King Kong". Would have made a more entertaining lead than Adrian Boring Brody.
This actually made me admire Marvel's casting ability for being able to turn Cap and his nemesis into something that I'd want to watch. Even their casting for Crossbones and Von Strucker are inspired.
He should have been Jack Driscoll in that Peter Jackson's remake of "King Kong". Would have made a more entertaining lead than Adrian Boring Brody.
top 3 batman picks.
the joker at one. theres no denying the symbiotic relationship the two have. they have a tom and jerry, road runner and wile e coyote relationship. a truly cancerous relationship that poisons them and everyone around them.
two is ra's al ghul. ra's is a trial by fire dude. and he sees batman as one of his greatest rivals. hell he respects the bat to an impressive degree, and keeps coming back to rain on the batmans parade.
the third is talia. i was gonna give it to black mask, but i decided to give it to someone more personal. a constant love interest and enemy, she really upped the ante on the bat list when she raped the bat and birthed their son damian. shes a conflicted woman stuck between duty of family, and her love of bruce.
with spidey, its a pretty easy list too
norman osborn. i dont think i have to go into this one, but norman has fucked with pete/spidey more than any other character. and that goes for both personas.
dr octopus. rounding up second, ock gets the nod from me simply due to spock period. hes an ok villain on his own, but his act at jumping into petes body, spraying new york with a dumbing agent, and parading around as him is incredibly fucked. its pretty much his legacy at this point.
third is kraven the hunter. this one wasnt hard at all, as i see their relationship as much more that the other spider man mooks. theres no money in kravens motivations in taking out spider man, but the aspect that spider man is his most dangerous game. he keeps losing, but with every loss, the desire to kill spider man grows. it also helps that his family has cost pete friends. so that definetely pushes him up past clowns like mysterio vulture and rhino
Yee, caps can't compare to these 2
Buddha Beam
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I'd actually agree with this, the more I think about it.
I'M FINISHED!
Um exCUSE me Sakurai but CLEARLY the best choice for Smash Bros would be my fav niche character HOWEVER you are clearly INCOMPETENT and
I would just like to add it was a crime that Marvel killed off Turner D. Century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_D._Century
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_D._Century
No his a hero that made the hard choices,
No AMeridroid
Protocide
Master Man
Warrior Woman
Jorok Goldblade
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Flash is a solid #3 behind Batman and Spider-Man.
No just an asshole
Boombloxer
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That's that. His rogues gallery is really just Red Skull, Crossbones, Zemo (more Avengers), and Strucker...who I can't take seriously after the Gorgon basically cuckolded & killed him in Wolverine.
Manmademan
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No his a hero that made the hard choices,
No AMeridroid
Protocide
Master Man
Warrior Woman
Well I had to leave SOMEONE for you to chime in with
Thank you, I also liked Cache. He knew every martial art in the world. But Cap taught him true American Judo Boxing.
NYCmetsfan
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I think the reason Spider-Man's and Batman's are so highly regarded is that they've been explored in so many stories and mediums. They're so familar and we know their stories intimately . We saw them on the big screen, in the books, on saturday morning, in video games, etc.
Others have good villians but when they only really get one outlet (the books) they don't get to grow as much as others.
Others have good villians but when they only really get one outlet (the books) they don't get to grow as much as others.
Imo
1. Batman
Joker, Ras Al Ghul, Catwoman, Riddler, Penguin, Bane, Croc, Two Face, Scarecrow. (Edit: and Harley, Poison Ivy, Clayface, Mr Freeze). All iconic and a lot have amzing stories. Also probs to a load of post 2000 good villains like Dr Hurt, Hush, Pyg and Court of Owls
2. Spider-Man
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Everyone else
But I'd give it next to Xmen, Flash or superman
After that is FF, Daredevil and Cap all of which have lots of pretty good villains and one or two brilliant villains
1. Batman
Joker, Ras Al Ghul, Catwoman, Riddler, Penguin, Bane, Croc, Two Face, Scarecrow. (Edit: and Harley, Poison Ivy, Clayface, Mr Freeze). All iconic and a lot have amzing stories. Also probs to a load of post 2000 good villains like Dr Hurt, Hush, Pyg and Court of Owls
2. Spider-Man
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Everyone else
But I'd give it next to Xmen, Flash or superman
After that is FF, Daredevil and Cap all of which have lots of pretty good villains and one or two brilliant villains
Spike Spiegel
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What, no Superia and her cruise ship full of female supervillains (aka "Femizons") and her nefarious scheme to turn Cap into a girl?
BKatastrophe
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Hey now, Supes also has Toyman, Livewire, Parasite, Bizarro, Metallo, and Volcana.
I mean, take that as you will. I like his gallery, although I'd place much of that weight on the animated series.
Also, I'm not here to argue rogue's galleries, but one thing I do know: Baron Zemo is definitely sick as hell.
nintendork666
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No, Spider-man does. That is a surprisingly impressive list however.
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