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Jack Package
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I had no idea you posted on here! Good to see you, man!
Genesis Knight
Member
No mention of Lobotomy?
NeverYouMind
Gold Member
Those were terrible versions. I was more impressed by Virtua Fighter on the Sega 32X and Fighters Megamix reverse engineering Virtua Fighter 3 for VF characters. Another amazing one is Galaga on the NES. It plays and sounds as good as the arcade version.
P.S. Storage limitations on Resident Evil 2 on N64 were crazy though.
P.S. Storage limitations on Resident Evil 2 on N64 were crazy though.
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
RE2 on N64 is an absolute miracle of engineering.
A 2 CD game, 1.2GB, fit on a 64MB cart, with FMV's, music and all the voice acting included, using tech they created themselves.
A 2 CD game, 1.2GB, fit on a 64MB cart, with FMV's, music and all the voice acting included, using tech they created themselves.
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LordOfChaos
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Minimum specs for PC were 66mhz CPU and 8mb of RAM
SNES was only 21mhz and 128KB of RAM for gaming
Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
Cyberpunk 2077 in ps4... Its a miracle that even works
yeah, under the hood it´s not far different than SF2, but the snes sound chip and its colorful pallete make it easy to downport it
NeverYouMind
Gold Member
It has such terrible load times on top of poor fidelity. It even has them between rounds if I recollect correctly.
abstract alien
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Killer Instinct on Gameboy is insane
diffusionx
Gold Member
I didn’t know race driving existed on game boy but just looking at it, it’s obviously much better than the snes version which makes no sense whatsoever.
Anyway I vote for Contra 3 on Game Boy. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 on Xbox are also insane.
Anyway I vote for Contra 3 on Game Boy. Half Life 2 and Doom 3 on Xbox are also insane.
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Dr.brain64
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Unknown Soldier
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Alan Silvestro
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Gba version is impossible.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
PanzerCute
Member
Powerslave: Exhumed on Saturn was quite an achievement IIRC.
cireza
Member
The fact that they put a 21 MHz proc in the cart is utterly ridiculous to begin with. Might as well release a brand new console or put a disc drive lol.
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Futaleufu
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Not to mention anything farther than 10 feet is a pixelated mess.
diffusionx
Gold Member
It's the SuperFX2 chip - SNES was designed for expansion like this.
Team Andromeda
Member
The ZX Spectrum did Elite and it had no 3D hardware so one wonders why people go on the NES version. Also Chase HQ was brilliant on the CPC and ZX Spectrum simply because of John O'Brien handling the coding while Prope messed up Outrun on micro's; a lot of ports are helped with the team handling the ports and not just the hardware they're being ported too.
Some of mine would be
Dungeon Master PC Engine CD - To get that game running in just 64 KB was amazing back then
Crazy Taxi - GBA
Layer Section 2 Sega Saturn - It gets little credit but its almost a perfect port of the PS1 game bar the mesh, and some of the best polygon handling seen on the Saturn.
Road Rash Master System - So close to the MD game
Doom 3 - Xbox
Quake Sega Saturn - Lobotomy were GODS
Virtua Cop - Sega Saturn -it's basically the Arcade game in the home and runs at the same speed too
Half Life 2 Xbox - Its all there and doesn't play too bad either
Some of mine would be
Dungeon Master PC Engine CD - To get that game running in just 64 KB was amazing back then
Crazy Taxi - GBA
Layer Section 2 Sega Saturn - It gets little credit but its almost a perfect port of the PS1 game bar the mesh, and some of the best polygon handling seen on the Saturn.
Road Rash Master System - So close to the MD game
Doom 3 - Xbox
Quake Sega Saturn - Lobotomy were GODS
Virtua Cop - Sega Saturn -it's basically the Arcade game in the home and runs at the same speed too
Half Life 2 Xbox - Its all there and doesn't play too bad either
Moses85
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SirTerry-T
Gold Member
Didn't Elite on the NES "fake" the 3D graphics by using sprites?
cireza
Member
I know. Still ridiculous in my opinion.
cireza
Member
Great pick. Having dived pretty deeply in MS/GG games, there are actually many games that are technically incredible on this SEGA 8 bits hardware.
A favorite pick of mine are the Shining Force games on Game Gear. I made an elaborate post (in French) about the technical details explaining how incredibly complicated it was to achieve the presentation they got on the console with only 2 palettes of 16 colors. Which is basically the exact same presentation as on MegaDrive.
In case some might be interested :
Projets 8 Bits Cireza
Je laisse des notes ici pour la postérité concernant le fonctionnement de Shining Force sur Game Gear. Les trois jeux fonctionnent pareil. Map : Les maps sont composées de tuiles de décor faites à partir de 6 couleurs maximum. Ce sont les 6 en partant de la droite, après le bleu et le jaune...
forums.sega-mag.com
Other impressive games are the Mortal Kombat and Golden Axe ports using background tiles.
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MadchesterManc
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I dunno about these Hogwarts Legacy & No Mans Sky 'impossible' ports, they just get downgraded until they run well enough. Its not as if the engine has been reengineered, game rebuilt, or any new techniques are developed to aid the port process.
Esppiral
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They had to cut geometry by half remove visual effects, downgrade textures, simplify environments etc,etc,et, so yeah In its original form it was not possible on PS2
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mansoor1980
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quake2 ps1
Daniel Thomas MacInnes
GAF's Resident Saturn Omnibus
ProTip: There are no “impossible” ports of videogames. Anything can be achieved with enough knowledge, time and programming skills.
My favorite example is the Axelay tech demo created for the NES. It shows the stunning mode-7 warping effect from the overhead stages, alongside an impressive number of sprites, all without flicker or slowdown. Granted, there is no collision detection, player control, music or enemy AI, all of which would impact performance. It’s just a graphics demo. But it shows just how far older hardware can be pushed by those who have mastered Assembly code.
Technically, almost everything seen on the Atari 2600 was “impossible.” That machine was built to play tank and paddle games, not Space Invaders. Yet the engineers found a way, and here we are.
It’s like seeing all those Doom ports on every electronic device known to exist. If you have the time and the coding chops, anything is possible.
mansoor1980
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was it a port for saturn? it was originally a saturn game
kazuyamishima
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Tomb Raider 1996 and Tekken Advance on Gameboy Advance.
Lol at those calling impossible ports on Nintendo Switch.
Lol at those calling impossible ports on Nintendo Switch.
Wolfpact1983
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Witcher 3 - RTX 4090
Skifi28
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I'm no expert, but I don't think impossible port stands for "impossible to port as is and some stuff has to be changed." That's basically most ports.They had to cut geometry by half remove visual effects, downgrade textures, simplify environments etc,etc,et, so yeah In its original form it was not possible on PS2
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PanzerCute
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No it was developed for PC, then ported to Saturn and Playstation.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Does it though?
tommib
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I played it on PS4 Pro and have to agree. Despite the shitshow at that time, it was still impressive that it was running fairly ok on a 5400 rpm drive, despite the crashes.
Esppiral
Member
They had to basically rebuild the game I wouldn't call it a port, rather a demaster.
Holammer
Member
We could use another word, but "impossible" is the recognized term now.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Also a good example. Outside of one extra load screen, and the cutscenes being turned into videos, the entire game made its way safely.
They even added a whole new campaign with Separate Ways.
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cireza
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Axelay uses a line scroll effect, not mode 7. So this makes it more "manageable" on 8 bits hardware.
Technically, to achieve this, I think that a solution is simply to have a much larger map with all 8 pixels tiles that scroll, and then skip 7 pixels, then 6, then 5 progressively as the screen renders by updating the vertical position at set line interrupts.
So as long as you have :
- enough vertical room in you virtual area (which the NES has, it can have the size of two screens either vertically or horizontally)
- a scanline counter (requires additional hardware in the cart for the NES lol)
- ability to use interrupts at specific scanlines
Then you probably can achieve this effect without too much trouble. At least, this is how I would code it.
I think it would be more difficult on the Master System as the virtual area is super small. Definitely possible to some extent on Game Gear though, as the screen resolution is smaller.
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Heimdall_Xtreme
Jim Ryan Fanclub's #1 Member
I want to know if there is an urban legend that someone has completed Cyberpunk 2077 on a vanilla PS4.
Seider
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No doubt Snes Doom was an awesome port... but i enjoyed Doom on my 486 DX 33 Mhz with 4 Mb RAM.
Unknown?
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It did look worse but not that much. It wasn't like GBA ports of console games.They had to cut geometry by half remove visual effects, downgrade textures, simplify environments etc,etc,et, so yeah In its original form it was not possible on PS2
Also there were other games on PS2 that made the RE4 port look bad. Silent Hill 3 smoked the PS2 version in graphics.
diffusionx
Gold Member
Powerslave on PC is a completely different game, it's also based on Build engine.
When it comes to that game, I wouldnt call any of them ports. They'rea ll very different games, although PSX and Saturn versions are much closer to each other than PC.
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