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Grildon Tundy

Grildon Tundy

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Been seeing clips on Twitter of funny or shocking incidents captured on in-home security cameras. What is the reasoning to having a camera on in the privacy of your own home 24/7--outside of wanting to capture funny or shocking internet clips? Do the same people who say "nothing to hide; nothing to fear" also use public bathrooms with the stall doors open? In a home invasion, would having footage ever work in the victim's favor?

Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
 
I've never understood this either. Outside makes sense to me but inside is weird (other than a babies room).

I've watched those "ghost" videos and when it's an inside camera it always seems staged to me (besides the fact they are). Maybe from were away or something but 24/7 makes no sense to me.
 
I only have a camera that detects motion and warns you on your phone while also sounding an alarm. So if anyone breaks in while i'm away, i can know and call the cops or the neighbors or something.

But even that is pointless. All the burglar needs to do is cut the internet cable from outside, in my country at least they are all exposed.
 
I only have cameras on the exterior because I live kind of rural and the crackheads will try to break into cars and steal stuff off the porch at night.
 
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Grildon Tundy said:
Been seeing clips on Twitter of funny or shocking incidents captured on in-home security cameras. What is the reasoning to having a camera on in the privacy of your own home 24/7--outside of wanting to capture funny or shocking internet clips? Do the same people who say "nothing to hide; nothing to fear" also use public bathrooms with the stall doors open? In a home invasion, would having footage ever work in the victim's favor?

Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
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I have them for my dogs, use them as security motions, I also have kids, kids fucking lie a lot. So it solves many needs.

My cameras are on an isolated VLAN that doesn't allow internet access to them and I use ONVIF protocols for alerts. Their data is then put on an NVR that is private access on a trusted VLAN. It's truly private and I don't record in the cloud.
 
Grildon Tundy said:
Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
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"I housesat and they recorded me sitting on their couch in just underwear, Jerry!"
"You sat in your underwear, George?!"
"It's comfortable! They were freshly laundered!"
"On.their.couch..."
 
ResilientBanana said:
I have them for my dogs, use them as security motions, I also have kids, kids fucking lie a lot. So it solves many needs.

My cameras are on an isolated VLAN that doesn't allow internet access to them and I use ONVIF protocols for alerts. Their data is then put on an NVR that is private access on a trusted VLAN. It's truly private and I don't record in the cloud.
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Insane Metal said:
Babysitters/maids doing wrong stuff.
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Thanks--this is stuff I hadn't considered, and I can understand where you're coming from.

The Cockatrice said:
America. You know why.
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Hm...I had conspiracy theory reasons, but those two guys above made me reconsider and think about how there are legitimate uses. Especially when it's all stored locally/not on the cloud.
 
I clicked on this thread because I'm thinking of getting an indoor camera for the living room so I can see what my dog is doing when I'm gone.
 
I have external motion cameras cause I could give a shit whose sees the video but internal? Fuuuuuuk dat, you'd have to be absolutely mad to have an internal one just capturing everything, now I do have one of those ring pop up cameras which I do on occasions use, for example when I go on holiday I'll stick it up in the hallway with a different motion sound encase some cunt breaks in or if I have workmen in I'll put it on so I can see if anyone goes upstairs to sniff my knickers when they should be downstairs working
 
RJMacready73 said:
I have external motion cameras cause I could give a shit whose sees the video but internal? Fuuuuuuk dat, you'd have to be absolutely mad to have an internal one just capturing everything, now I do have one of those ring pop up cameras which I do on occasions use, for example when I go on holiday I'll stick it up in the hallway with a different motion sound encase some cunt breaks in or if I have workmen in I'll put it on so I can see if anyone goes upstairs to sniff my knickers when they should be downstairs working
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Just to be clear - you would be ok with them sneaking upstairs to sniff your knickers - just as long as they are on a proper scheduled break?
 
Babysitters/Maids is #1.

#2 maybe so you can watch what your dog does while your at work (sleeping)

#3 if someone does break into your house, you can see what they do? But other than that, yea fake internet videos
 
My entire home is covered inside (minus bedrooms and bathrooms) and out 24/7 as we lived through a house break in though luckily we were not home
 
I have a doorbell camera and a couple inside mainly to keep an eye on the dogs when we are out, but there also handy when we are away just to keep an eye on the house. We used to unplug them when we was home but we just leave them on now.
 
I installed a friend a complete system. He has severe OCD; I have it too, but nowhere near as bad as him. While I only have to check everything before leaving the house, he has to do it for 10-15 minutes and has to return because he does not feel he checked enough. Because of that, he often was late, even for work.

After I installed the system, he became way more relaxed, and I also installed a smart home system; since then, most people would not even know how far his OCD goes.

He now also has key finders and similar things, and for people like him this can help a lot. I would not go as far as him. I have a smart home because I like the convenience of not having to check if everything has been turned off. I thought about a camera at home, but I don't have pets or anything outside my electronics that would need protection.
 
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In Canada someone did it because he didn't trust his home care workers (not about theft, he thinks they're incompetent.)

Filming patient care isn't normally allowed even in hospitals (*all* parties are allowed privacy), but of course people come out of the woodwork with false equivalencies about where people are filmed, and the "if you've got nothing to hide" trope.
 
TransTrender said:
I clicked on this thread because I'm thinking of getting an indoor camera for the living room so I can see what my dog is doing when I'm gone.
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My daughter has an indoor camera that she only plugs in when she will be away from home for the day for this very reason. She checks in on the dogs.
 
TransTrender said:
I clicked on this thread because I'm thinking of getting an indoor camera for the living room so I can see what my dog is doing when I'm gone.
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I'm a big fan of the Wyze cameras. They don't have a monthly fee, and they store everything on SD card, but you can still access the footage remotely.

Grildon Tundy said:
Been seeing clips on Twitter of funny or shocking incidents captured on in-home security cameras. What is the reasoning to having a camera on in the privacy of your own home 24/7--outside of wanting to capture funny or shocking internet clips? Do the same people who say "nothing to hide; nothing to fear" also use public bathrooms with the stall doors open? In a home invasion, would having footage ever work in the victim's favor?

Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
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I don't normally have cameras set up inside my house, but I have external cameras. And thank goodness, because I caught an attempted murder on video last week that'll end up being used in what'll probably be a pretty big trial. (Which is crazy, cause I live in a safe, quiet neighborhood, and have never even had so much as a package stolen.)

But I do set up cameras inside my house when I leave for a long trip or something. Mostly so I can see and talk to my cat. :3
 
nkarafo said:
I only have a camera that detects motion and warns you on your phone while also sounding an alarm. So if anyone breaks in while i'm away, i can know and call the cops or the neighbors or something.

But even that is pointless. All the burglar needs to do is cut the internet cable from outside, in my country at least they are all exposed.
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Modern systems have battery and cellular backup, even the cheap DIY Ring kits.
 
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Never Inside, Only outside. I also have a system that has not subscription and is all hosted on my own server.
 
It's just for extra security. If something happens indoors it can be caught. If you are away and someone breaks in, it gives more views of what they were up to, possibly reveal their identities. Same if something awful happened indoors. Also to monitor people who are in your home, make sure they don't do anything. Is it 100% necessary? Probably not.
 
I remember seeing that home invasion because of internal cameras. After they looted the place they executed the adults with kids still running around.
 
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Donald mac Ronald said:
I remember seeing that home invasion because of internal cameras. After they looted the police they executed the adults with kids still running around.
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Double edged sword about in home cameras

You may record your own death that can be out there on the web forever but then again it helped catch those thugs
 
Grildon Tundy said:
Been seeing clips on Twitter of funny or shocking incidents captured on in-home security cameras. What is the reasoning to having a camera on in the privacy of your own home 24/7--outside of wanting to capture funny or shocking internet clips? Do the same people who say "nothing to hide; nothing to fear" also use public bathrooms with the stall doors open? In a home invasion, would having footage ever work in the victim's favor?

Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
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We live within a really fucked up society where, at least in the west, the judicial system seems to be breaking down. What that means is they keep releasing criminals out into the streets, when they should get years, life or death. Instead, no posting bond, straight release and often leading to more crime. It is almost essential that you have a dash cam and 24/7 surveillance on your home when forced to mix it up with people who should otherwise be kept away from the rest of us. They are purposely being let out with obtuse rulings.
 
I'm glad to hear of the legitimate uses of private surveillance in this thread. Some strong arguments there. If I had a family to protect, I'd probably fall more on the side of accepting and standing up 24/7 surveillance.

For me, with all the evidence and news about how Big Data and governments gobble up that "private" data, it's unfortunately a new tech area where there's a tradeoff being made between physical safety and more abstract "data" safety. Long-term, the end result (and is probably happening now) is likely predictive analytics/Minority Report-style pre-crime being sold as public safety but which could easily be co-opted by an authoritarian political party of any kind. See the Ring ad about finding lost dogs. Luckily, people saw through that as a means of consumer-subsidized surveillance.

Btw, this one was going around Twitter today:

 
Idleyes said:
Yes. It absolutely has worked in favor of victims. It has also worked against those who claimed to be a victim. :messenger_beaming:
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I suspect that having footage of thugs acting like thugs and breaking in, then getting ventilated, will ALWAYS help the homeowner, even if the shooting itself is illegal in that jurisdiction. Actually SEEING the thuggery really moves the jury, I think, to justify a terminal response. None of this "We wuz coming back from studying for college and happened to walk into the wrong house" bullshit when you see them getting prepped, kick down the door with guns out, and then eat buckshot.
 
Grildon Tundy said:
I'm glad to hear of the legitimate uses of private surveillance in this thread. Some strong arguments there. If I had a family to protect, I'd probably fall more on the side of accepting and standing up 24/7 surveillance.

For me, with all the evidence and news about how Big Data and governments gobble up that "private" data, it's unfortunately a new tech area where there's a tradeoff being made between physical safety and more abstract "data" safety. Long-term, the end result (and is probably happening now) is likely predictive analytics/Minority Report-style pre-crime being sold as public safety but which could easily be co-opted by an authoritarian political party of any kind. See the Ring ad about finding lost dogs. Luckily, people saw through that as a means of consumer-subsidized surveillance.

Btw, this one was going around Twitter today:

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That dog is named Hulk and is amazing to see some of his videos and this was a "training" video showing what his dogs can do as he sells his pups for insane amounts of money

But yeah having that monster in your house is amazing home security the problem is if he decides to turn on you

Just happened recently near my hometown where a couple of pitbulls attacked and killed the grand daughter of a 50 something year old that watched her through the week

The grandmother apparently had a heart attack and died and for some reason the dogs attacked and mauled the toddler

My brother in law who is a first responder said out of everything he has seen in his life this was one of the worst scenes he had ever been to

Said they wasn't even sure what really had happened and when they got there all the dogs were super friendly to them but the in house Ring cameras caught what happened
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
That dog is named Hulk and is amazing to see some of his videos and this was a "training" video showing what his dogs can do as he sells his pups for insane amounts of money

But yeah having that monster in your house is amazing home security the problem is if he decides to turn on you

Just happened recently near my hometown where a couple of pitbulls attacked and killed the grand daughter of a 50 something year old that watched her through the week

The grandmother apparently had a heart attack and died and for some reason the dogs attacked and mauled the toddler

My brother in law who is a first responder said out of everything he has seen in his life this was one of the worst scenes he had ever been to

Said they wasn't even sure what really had happened and when they got there all the dogs were super friendly to them but the in house Ring cameras caught what happened
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Yeah, no matter how lovable and well trained, a massive animal with hundreds of pounds of bite force is always a potential problem.

I have a little yapper. He can't hurt anything but he can wake me up and that's about all that is necessary, at least in my state. NO ONE in their right mind will try to enter a house with a barking dog where I live......at least they won't get a second chance.
 
jason10mm said:
Yeah, no matter how lovable and well trained, a massive animal with hundreds of pounds of bite force is always a potential problem.

I have a little yapper. He can't hurt anything but he can wake me up and that's about all that is necessary, at least in my state. NO ONE in their right mind will try to enter a house with a barking dog where I live......at least they won't get a second chance.
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I actually had a pair of Dobermans for years that I knew would not even protect me in a home invasion and the reason I say that is one night my wife and I took an uber home from a family party and forgot our keys

We literally broke in through one of our bathroom windows and I was afraid the dogs would try to stop us but we couldn't find them for a minute even calling their names

Turns out they had gone into the basement and were hiding in their open kennels and were scared to death

We do now have a little Chihuahua that too is a huge yapper at anything that moves so I almost feel safer with him than the 2 Dobbies we had
 
HeisenbergFX4 said:
That dog is named Hulk and is amazing to see some of his videos and this was a "training" video showing what his dogs can do as he sells his pups for insane amounts of money

But yeah having that monster in your house is amazing home security the problem is if he decides to turn on you

Just happened recently near my hometown where a couple of pitbulls attacked and killed the grand daughter of a 50 something year old that watched her through the week

The grandmother apparently had a heart attack and died and for some reason the dogs attacked and mauled the toddler

My brother in law who is a first responder said out of everything he has seen in his life this was one of the worst scenes he had ever been to

Said they wasn't even sure what really had happened and when they got there all the dogs were super friendly to them but the in house Ring cameras caught what happened
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That dad and those kids are natural actors. I never would've thought it was a training scenario.

I was also waiting for the part where the dad comes back into frame with The Judge.

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Grildon Tundy said:
Been seeing clips on Twitter of funny or shocking incidents captured on in-home security cameras. What is the reasoning to having a camera on in the privacy of your own home 24/7--outside of wanting to capture funny or shocking internet clips? Do the same people who say "nothing to hide; nothing to fear" also use public bathrooms with the stall doors open? In a home invasion, would having footage ever work in the victim's favor?

Anecdotally, I know parents who housesat for their Gen Z kid and her husband. They found out after the fact that the kids had in-home security cameras that were running the whole time. Feels like something a modern-day Seinfeld would build an episode around.
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Most people don't care about privacy and have cams already in their house via smart phones/PCs.

I only have them outside and they record locally, not on someone else's cloud*cough*PC*cough*
 
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